How do you create an ethnostate without infringing on individual rights?

protip: you don’t

ergo a white ethnostate will never exist and every debate about its validity is just a philosophical circlejerk and mental masturbation for the 14 year olds who haven’t figured out Sup Forums is satire and naziism is a meme

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simple
>individuals don't have rights if they are not citizens.
>revoke all un approved individuals citizenship and begin necessary steps

I'll be seeking your votes soon anons

Non whites are citizens

>citizenship CAN LEGALLY be revoked from anyone, black or white
now step over into the line labeled "denied"
wait, will you vote for me :) hehe

>(((Viggo Manletson)))

on what basis?

>Aragorn must be pretty desperate for movie roles - a little virtue signalling will sort that out...
An ethnostate is the inevitable backlash against forced mass immigration. You can only push a people so far (even the Swedes) before they purge the brown hordes.

to be determined by the State, but that only applies to "naturalized citizens". They can however willfully relinquish their natural born citizenship too, which we can offer buyouts for.

It isn’t inevitable and it will never happen. Europe is already lost and they couldn’t be happier about it

so you can’t, you’re just making retarded arguments that hold no water

if there is hope for america there is hope for europe

Shit, I didn't know he was against jews.

Swings and roundabouts, what goes up must come down - cause and effect. It is inevitable.

what individual rights would even be infringed? Keep in mind that non-whites would not be considered to be protected by any rights

ironic how badly they wish for the end of the European, that *only* 90% white European population is "too late" in their hallucinations.
:) couldn't be happier to be witness (and likely a part) of the greatest European renaissance in my people's long history .

What makes you think there’s hope for America? Dicky Spencer the meme queen?

I believe you because you posted a picture of a white person

That seems like a very minor issue. The biggest issue that nobody is addressing is that most whites don't want an ethnostate.
How can you create a white ethnostate if the overwhelming majority of whites don't want to live in one? Will you force them to go into it?
Or if you decide to do one without them, how do you solve the issue that the proportions of educated specialists and working people will be skewed, since these demographics have very different acceptance of the concept?

Because most whites don't want it, especially wealthy educated whites, this ethnostate, if created without them, will be Africa tier.

>M-muh rights!
>Check flag
>It's a low test Anglo beta cuck
Every time.

immigration.findlaw.com/citizenship/can-your-u-s-citizenship-be-revoked-.html

start packing bitch

and how would you go about implementing this new policy?

i doubt we'll live long enough to see the fruits of our labors expressed culturally

dang ol' read the constitution and do it dang ol' retard
talkin' bout nobody ever wrote it down before dang ol'
come on down got'cher history lesson here soy latte boy dang ol'

Weimar recovery happened in 13 years.

probably balkanization, if you live in the white zone and you're not white you have no rights, you get a certain period of time to leave peacefully and if you don't the RWDS comes a knocking

Weimar didn't have 30 million niggers to get rid of

>Natural-born U.S. citizens may not have their citizenship revoked against their will

NO

>fruits of our labors

name one thing you’ve ever contributed to a greater cause in your entire life

>euro
>hates freedom

Every time

Japan, South Korea, Iceland, Poland, Finland, and Estonia are examples of ethnostates that already exist, to name a few.

There's plenty of land in the Alaskan and Canadian wilderness that hasn't been colonized by humans yet.

>name one thing you’ve ever contributed to a greater cause in your entire life
I just fucking graduated high school, should i have my own empire by now?

probably out of context

Google "Orania", nigger.

Ethnostates will happen as an inevitability of multiculturalism. Whites will eventually get tired by being exploited, robbed, and murdered all the time, so they will demand separatism. The US black community and Hispanic community are already very separatist, just look at BLM's "we waz kangz" posting. Black could theoretically be given an ethnostate that compasses most of Missouri and Louisiana.

this is not in the least bit surprising

>if there is hope for america
Just over half this country is white and many of them dont even identify as white. This country will never be a white ethno state, whites have no right to even push for one here as this land never belonged to whites.

the jews are the problem. Blacks will be different when their aren't jews whispering subversive crap in their ears. We'll negotiate a trade, all whites out of Africa for the blacks here (and financial incentives)

You gonna ignore these?

So do you admit that Native American reservations are ethnostates?

I need an answer Soygon. Am I white? Or is the question too loaded for you?

>mfw you don't even realize your pic related is talking about jews

twitter and this shithole are horrible indicators of what society thinks and feels. The truth is most people just don’t give a fuck. Whites aren’t getting tired of anything because most whites are simply trying to live their own lives. I know you guys want some great cause to fight for but the truth is we’re the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War’s a spiritual war… our Great Depression is our lives. We’ve all been raised on television to believe that one day we’d all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won’t. And we’re slowly learning that fact. And we’re very, very pissed off.

no, they’re not independent states

Sage

FALSE QUOTE

Viggo despised Hillary. OP confirmed JIDF trying to get LotR off Sup Forumss confirmed /ourmovies/.

sage the kike and move along

>sages
>posts pic

reddit pls leave already

See

>viggo

So does cali/hollywood just cuck people? Theres no way such liberal faggotry comes out of a strongly red area like rural new york

>twitter and this shithole are horrible indicators of what society thinks and feels. The truth is most people just don’t give a fuck

Wow, such an empirical analysis. You should work for CNN.

>we’re very, very pissed off
That's about the only thing you got right in that sophistic spiel of yours. South African whites didn't feel an urge to form a new ethnostate immediately, it took a few decades of literal communist niggers burning them alive in order to spur them to action. You leftist nihilist bugmen are creating the very nigger crucible that will expedite the rise of white nationalism, ironically.

Does it matter? Can you be a 100% Somalian Muslim and then go live on a Native American reservation and get a Injun gibz check?

Aragorn literally makes an ethnostate

>Anyone who defines themselves as an Afrikaner and identifies with Afrikaner ethnicity is welcome in Orania

keked it up pretty good senpaifam

>Does it matter?

yes, that’s the topic at hand you little autistic fuck

Hi newfag

>faggots don't know pics can be saged

kikes of the highest caliber

triggered noobz right here

made me kekel it up pretty hard forreal forreal

You can have a white ethnostate, and it could still be a client state of the Federal government. Native American are living proof of this concept.

I don't see why you think focusing on being under Federal control or not makes a difference. Native American chiefs set many of the laws for their reservations.

so he hates leftists?

Indian reservations are not states and are still subject to federal law, dipshit

After the Trump betrayal there is only Putin left to safe white Europeans.
He is investing into right-wing parties and groups all over Europe since years.

yeah, those republican leftists

Is Lawrence Fishburne an Apache?

Are high schoolers ignorant faggots?

White people are the only race that care about individual rights. How do you intend on preserving them without?

>federal law
So it would be a white ethnostate with Constitutional rights? Oh nooooo that suuuucks. Not.

It’s not an ethnostate. I dont know what you don’t understand

What makes an actor "right"

How good he is

I see you've been backed into a corner. Sargon couldn't answer that obvious question either.

Yes it is an ethnostate. You have to have a specific amount of Native American DNA (they literally DNA test you) in order to live on a Reservation and get a special gibz check.

This whole thread is just a demoralization troll op. You're not actually trying to hold a logical conversation.

>inb4 you make a sarcastic, yet hollow, response

Fucking newfags

youre completely right. an ethnostate will be impossible to implement.

It’s not a state. Your high school is showing

Guy is redpilled. He is against neocons. Look at the his publishing company’s website. You’ll see the recommended articles about the shady actions of US in the middle east.

Also, he is a libertarian.

You must be a newfag if you don't recognize mommy, get out reee.

Mommy is not now, nor has she ever been, an argument

Checked

dank meme bro

If you want to see how to practically work towards a modem ethnostate study how the Mexicans operate in the American Southwest.

Yes they have silly impractical Aztlan ideas but they are actually creating an ethnostate right now.

Quite simply they use subtle, grinding pranks and harassment against Non-Hispanics who live in Mexican dominant areas. Nothing illegal... just loud music, social bullying and various pranks to make you miserable and want to move. Criminal elements also abound and actively attack blacks and others who stand in their way.

Honestly that’s all it would take to establish a white ethnostate... just reinforce current white majority regions using a campaign of annoying yet perfectly legal abuse against unwanted ethnicities. It shouldn’t be about “hating non-whites”, but loving your fellow heritage Americans and not wanting to be bothered by annoying jibbering POC’s. The problem is whites are still so very nice to everyone, but this is changing.

How do you create a state without infringing on individual rights?

You don't. I mean this sincerely, you just can't. Whether or not that means the concept or practice of creating a state is good or bad is up to you.

Of course you can. Change a region’s demographics and mindset over time and eventually you’re ethnostate is perfectly feasible. Ie; California will likely be a Hispanic ethnostate in 50 years despite no Anglo’s individual rights being harmed in any legally actionable ways.

California is not a state in an autonomic sense. It cannot declare war. It wouldn’t be an ethnostate

How do you prevent the creation of an ethnostate without infringing the right of freedom association?

protip: jump off a bridge.

>legally actionable
Not at all relevant to individual rights.

You can legally be jailed for growing the wrong plant in your home, and they can charge you rent on land you 'own'. You can be jailed for owning the wrong type of firearm. You can be jailed for using lethal force to defend your property.

No US state besides maybe Alaska has actual individual rights far as I see, and the feds can ruin that whenever they want.

if that's the case then why didn't he let the uruk hai into helm's deep so that they could all celebrate diversity?

You can have a multi-racial state without infringing individual rights either. best way to have individualism work would be to have an Anglo ethno-state.

>association = nation building

European education everyone

I don’t know what that means

Ethnostates as nations were alredy built you retard. It's politics forcing integration what destroying them. You don't need to build a new nation just restore them.

I insist, jump off a bridge.

And you vote for those policies when you vote for the politicians who make them, you fucking idiot

can't*

So you're against minorities then? Because no politician gets 100% of the votes. They're lucky if they get 50%.
Also a lot of politicians IGNORE their own promises and pass laws and policies without consent or anouncement.

Also politicians make pacts with other parties to obtain power because alone they can't reach enough aproval.

Give me your personal info so I can send you a Down Syndrome diagnosis, maybe you'll be able to get some NEETbucks out of it. You're so stupid your mother probably queefed you instead of birthing you.

>muh ethnostate
It's silly term made up by a bunch of internet warrior pussies. You guys really are no different from SJWs and their imaginary vocabulary.

Any proof that he is a libertarian ?

I know this guy is quite handsome, no homo, but what are his qualifications to comment on politics?

Fucking simple.
You secede from the multiethnic state.

>what are his qualifications to comment on politics?
This whole board is dedicated to NEETs talking about politics.

control your country then, you dumb nigger

>an actor
Yes, people who pretend to be other people for a living are certainly good role models.

>Hurpadurr don't violate invader's rights
>Control your country!
Make your fucking mind you moron.

I've read interviews of him. He is very ignorant when it comes to politics but quite based when it comes to the neocon question. A lot of conservative minded people labels themselves as liberal because they eat all the bullshit the media feeds them

...

Write basic, inalienable rights to all citizens, in the constitution, along with citizenship dependant upon being predominantly descended from the native white peoples of Europe.

These things are not mutually exclusive, dumbass

All ideologies do this however,
Ancaps have their NAP,
Communists have their Proletariat, Bourgeoisie,
Classical Liberals have their Tabula-rasa,
etc

And as far as ideological jargon goes "Ethnostate" is actually pretty reasonable as such states can (and indeed do) exist. My biggest gripe with liberalism (I actually find it quite agreeable otherwise) is that their concept of the black slate goes against all established science, and can basically never be engineered without violating literally every other liberal principle.

They are.
You're implying you can't ask for an ethnostate because it violates individual rights.
I tell you it doesn't because individual rights have alredy been infringed in the first place.
Then you start showing off your ignorance and proceed to mumble like a fucking retard showing how bad your ability to enunciate an argument or follow any logic is.

You're just a teenage white spoiled kid with no social skills and the intelectual level of a dog. You can learn tricks but you have no fucking idea what you're doing. If you were blessed with a little bit of intelligence you'd realize how stupid you are and point a gun to your head.

well if you only apply rights to citizens and only allow whites to immigrate into the country they can have individual rights but you still have a white ethnostate. The only grey area would be white citizen marries a non white foreigner and attempts to bring her in but, all you have to do is not recognize foreign marriages and the non white can't enter the country before a wedding to get married in country.

Watch his interviews. There is some naivety in him but you know he says what he thinks instead of saying what othet people want to hear. Also, read this assblustes liberal’s article on him

awardsdaily.com/2016/07/17/an-open-letter-to-viggo-mortensen-stop-the-madness-before-its-too-late/