This is a thread in which we discuss the current political and social situation developing in Romania. Everyone is invited to join the conversation, as long as you keep it civil and non-Balkan explosive (even our eternal enemies are allowed to join in). Please refrain from speaking in another language other than English, for the sake of the conversation.
Quick rundown: >there are no /ourguys/, there never have been >current political party that runs the Government is PSD (Social Democrat neocommies) >the opposition is non-existent (PNL/PMP/USR) >there are no right-winged parties in Romania (believe it or not, PSD is actually the closest to the right at the moment)
Happy new years, camarazi, I do hope 2018 will bring you happiness and health galore. It's finally the time we fight back against the system. Starting next week, stencils will start popping all around Bucharest - the idea is to popularize the creation of a Pro-Romanian nationalistic party.
>No right wing parties >Corrupt police Are you sure you aren't talking about Brazil?
Christopher King
And fight against Uber. Same thing happening here
Jack Torres
Brother, why are our cities so normificated? I swear, if I put the foot again in Cluj I'll shoot someone
Chase Price
Good things to do online:
>make anonymous accounts on popular websites that cover the news (Adevarul, hotnews, gandul etc) and start commenting on various articles – shill as much as you can the idea that Romania literally has no political option as of now and the fact that we need a right-winged, Pro-Romanian political party >do the same thing on kikebook or other social media platforms, but make sure to cover your tracks if you decide to post inflamatory content. >if you have any talent in design, play with various models in order to create the perfect stencils for outdoor placement + material for online (use various nationalistic phrases, quotes, context etc) >if you have any talent in copywriting, create material for the design, we’ll have to be very catchy and non-violent, but in the same time exploit the current political instability and low popularity of most if not all politicians
Be aware – every moment has to start from somewhere. A grassroots movement such as this will only have success if there are enough dedicated people that will rile up the others. Dedicate yourself to the cause and let’s once and for all change our country for the better. The national context for this is perfect – 2018 marks the 100th year since our unification as a country, so we have all the year ahead of us.
Ryder Jackson
Urban areas do not reflect the true spirit of our country, brother. Always remember that the degeneracy will always be located in the most populous regions - Bucharest, Cluj, Timisoara etc. Don't mind them - as long as the movement will catch on, they'll either join it or they'll shill against it (and honestly, that makes things even better, as you'll know how you are against). And believe it or not, there are quite a lot of people that will always prefer normality, not degeneracy, even in our biggest cities - those people are usually quiet most of the times, it's our job to energize them.
Colton Collins
the current political landscape literally looks the same all around the globe - trust in politicians is at an utmost low; the right-winged parties are nowhere to be seen (and if they are present, they are not right-winged at all); police is doing nothing at all to protect the citizens, which further poses the idea that unarmed citizens = weak country etc. It's the perfect time for a shitshow, join the fun.
Samuel Jones
In villages like the ones from Rodna Mountains there are some incredible people, hat off to them. I think Cluj is the most commie city in Romania, it beats Bucharest and Timisoara by far. I heard that Iasi is a nice city tho
Kayden Barnes
Oh hi, northern Bulgaria. Empire when?
Angel Scott
Take your people back, they're everywhere >th-they're gypsies No they're not, gypsies have a separate count. Romanians in Italy are 1.5 millions.
Hudson Rivera
In villages all across Romania there are awesome people indeed, the only problem is to get to mobilize them against the system (which can be easily done by acts of charity, same Legionary paradigm, help others pro-bono for maximum support). As for Cluj - it is indeed one of the most liberal cities in Romania, mainly due to the large student population; as for beating Bucharest in the "most-cucked-city-of-Romania", I'd say we are lightyears ahead of any other city and we unironically deserve to get nuked.
Heard that a couple of counties from Bulgaria want to start a secesionist movement and join Romania (due to low anti-corruption legislation in Bulgaria). Was this true or was it just amped up by the media?
Ian Young
I'm jelly of Romania. Hope you guys make it soon.
it was one retarded old man and the media made a big deal of it
Gavin Phillips
Are they bothering?
Kevin Evans
While most crime here is done by italians, niggers and romanians (romanians more) split up the remaining part
Jack Robinson
Pyмyни цигaни хoхoхoхoхooх
Ayden Richardson
There are 1.1 million Romanians in Italy, according to the 2015 census. The number is dropping, however, as more Romanians from Italy are moving towards the West due to economic difficulties, believe it or not. I'd say that out of those 1.1 million, 400.000 are gippos - same ratio goes for Spain as well, as these were the two countries in which uneducated Romanians decided to move into, given the low language barrier.
I see, thanks for the clarification. The Romanian media made it look like it was a big thing, but how could they not? Seeing a country that is worse than us (which is pretty much impossible desu, given our internal struggle atm) will definitely bring those ratings up.
Jaxson Morris
Its done as sign of protest as these are the three poorest regions and they feel left alone by the state. Obviously its not meant serious but for media attention.
Carter Cooper
ЦИГAAAHИИИИИИИИИИИИИИИИИ
Jack Martin
If Judapest falls eventually, please nuke it. At least let it fall to our old enemies and not the hordes of niggers and jews.
Camden Ward
yбиј ce
Henry Green
Let's discuss the important things now. Like how to deal with the gypsy problem.
Camden Phillips
>I think Cluj is the most commie city in Romania, it beats Bucharest and Timisoara by far. heh
Oliver Smith
>Heard that a couple of counties from Bulgaria want to start a secesionist movement and join Romania (due to low anti-corruption legislation in Bulgaria). Was this true or was it just amped up by the media?
Its "true", but not the way you heard it. Basically a bunch of larpers from the poorest parts of the country suggested what you are saying, but they don't have wide support. They are just trying to threaten the government for gibs.
Wyatt Hernandez
Hello thracian brother, apparently now.
Leo Bell
Дe cи цигaнeeee
Henry Torres
don't worry, magyarbro, we're in it together.
just shoo them out of your country with EU promises, the rest is done by the West itself. This way you'll get double benefits - gippos will commit crimes outside of your country; they will send their money back to the country; IF they decide to come back, arrest them and confiscate everything, eventually send them back via plane to the West.
Always remember - the West made us give them passports, therefor the West needs to deal with them accordingly.
Andrew Perez
>This way you'll get double benefits - gippos will commit crimes outside of your country That's not a benefit and it's the reason everyone in europe thinks both you and me are gypsies.
Caleb Bailey
Just theatre, we haven't done anything yet, not even a naval exercise in the Black Sea or something.
Xavier Cooper
So, how it is in Cluj? I have some friends there at the University and they said that the SJW and "Not real communism" mentality has started spreading there.
Eli Lee
Who the fuck cares what they think about our countries? My future is in Romania, as long as foreigners don't come here because they think it's /comfy/, I'm happy with any outcome to be honest. Make our countries look like a shithole to the eyes of foreigners, that's the best god damn thing that could happen to us - no foreigners = not that much degeneracy. As long as you know the truth, always stand tall and proud of being a true Bulgarian, don't give a fuck about what others say about your or your country.
Kek, wait for us, we need to recharge our batteries for our submarine (nicknamed "dolphin"). It's a Kilo class submarine that is literally rusting in the Constanta port because our politicians couldn't buy special accumulators for its battery.
Caleb Wright
That moment when Romania and Bulgaria want to unite and Russia chimps out, stages coup d`etats, kills our leaders and prepares to invade us. If weren`t for Russia we could have become together a new european power.
We should learn from the sandniggers. Try to start a new refugee crises, if you catch my drift.
Elijah Anderson
We`ll Romania proposed a while ago to unite our naval fleets. Apparently the russia made bulgaria refuse, who would have guessed.
Jaxson Morgan
I like your way of thinking. But I always imagined myself traveling and I don't want to be associated with the same subhuman filth I so passionately hate. It's tedious to have to explain "the gypsy problem" to every retarded westerner.
Liam Flores
yup, not that many people know about that. The Romanian-Bulgarian hate meme was literally developed by the Soviets after the Russian Revolution, as a potential union between the countries would have meant close to zero Russian influence in the Balkan region (excluding Serbia out of this). The War of Independence, for example, is literally shilled as a Russian-only intervention in Bulgaria, even though the entire Russian-Romanian army was commanded by our King and the Romanian army contributed a lot to the war effort. Better keep the goys divided, rather than united.
Xavier Jackson
Unification wouldnt be a bad thing. Would bring more independence on international stage.
Oliver Robinson
cum fac rost de o iubita romanca?
Angel Edwards
>the biggest navy in the lake after they stole ukraine's ships is asking us to stay in port
Yeah, it does make me think.
Parker Cruz
kek, good idea. Visas for Canada have been completely lifted as of December for Bulgaria and Romania, shilling that as the new gippo dream destination would be truly awesome. Make Canada Brown Again!
Ian Gray
The problem is gypsies are natives now and we can't make them fuck off
Gavin Hughes
It is true that our scum migrated to you, but I'm sure you have no problem with Romanians, true Romanians. Your problem is not Romanians, it's gypsies, niggers and sandniggers The world is not overpopulated, it's overpopulated with shitskins.
It basically says that India recognized gypsies from around the world as Indians, and wait them back.
Sad
Hudson Diaz
my grandma told me that george soros planted a mayor in timisoara. nobody voted for that dude and yet he got the position. could someone confirm? also how is the overall situation? have any cities been enriched so far?
Brandon Rivera
Our gypsies would blend in perfectly
Gavin Kelly
Well there are a lot of chink women, i was in Bucharest in Kultur club one time and suddenly i found myself near 10 chinks, all women, They didn`t looked bad at all.
Angel Clark
Ceaușescu should have holocausted all the gypsy menace during his dictatorship and nobody would have done nothing because it was under not real communism. Lazy cunt, glad he got executed and recorded it. But the problem is still there.
Oliver Cox
Please respond fratilor.
Tyler Lopez
It's one of the most infected Romanian cities out there, given the large student population that is pouring into it. It has a large LGBT+ community (as well as supporters); it's the SJW central of Romania, due to the foreign professors and students that reside in the city; the last part about communism is sadly true as well, most young people that never experienced communism or that had retarded parents that went full liberal after the iron curtain fell have indeed a very sickening mentality when it comes to the ideology itself. Thank god, however, that most of the population clearly remembers how it was - heck, that's why we are one of the most russophobe country out there, alongside Poland.
Gavin Clark
We should teach them to tell the westerners they are indians, which is true. Not roma/romani, bagami-as pl in soros/
Justin Wilson
Mostly Cluj (Klausenburg you call it) is full with shitskins who call themselves students, and with the stupid narrative of neo-commies
Nathan Nguyen
here ya go brother
Jeremiah Murphy
>>there are no right-winged parties in Romania (believe it or not, PSD is actually the closest to the right at the moment) Close with their mouth, their actions are entirely 100% corrupt to steal money, destroy progress, prevent progress, tax everything, raise taxes, create new taxes, destroy Criminal Law and turns this country into bangladesh by bringing foreign workers from china, vietnam, india, bangladesh to replace romanians who barely make enough to survive every month They are socialists entirely and should all be cursed to die along with their families, their bloodline is traitorous and guilty.
Isaiah Edwards
>PSD (Social Democrat neocommies) Are they the former communist party?
Bentley Russell
Imagine we would have both greater Romania and greater Bulgaria. Also we would be capable of having our own economy, not waiting for the west. And in the end we could take back Constantinopole, only for ourselves.
Brandon Bennett
They are the former comunists that killed Ceausescu, which is a paradox.
Xavier Bailey
wow. 15 years ago you wouldnt see even one chink in brasov or timisoara...
so this is still a thing. let me guess, mostly arabs? they already did this in the 80's... arab "students" with money
Blake Reyes
We should, and many of them know. But if we get rid of the gypsies and send them all back to India, Jews would have nothing on us.
I heard of cases of gypsies who moved backed to India, and said that they are well of, don't want to come back.
Julian Phillips
You get it perfectly Deutche Bruder, as always.
Gavin Carter
You can't make them move to India because they've been here for many generations. The only solution is chemical castration and forced integration for the living gyppos - if they don't work or don't go to school they get no welfare
Brody Hernandez
I do agree with most of what you said, except this part
>turns this country into bangladesh by bringing foreign workers from china, vietnam, india, bangladesh to replace romanians who barely make enough to survive every month
PSD has been shifting towards the center-right ever since it won the Parliamentary elections last year, mainly because it realized that it would need people from the center-right in order to win, as their electoral margin is getting slower year by year due to an aging population. The pro-family referendum, as well as the V4 negotiations that have been going on in the last couple of months, point out that PSD has decided to adopt a populist agenda very similar to what Hungary and Poland are experiencing (this is due to the Israeli connection in PSD, Dragnea has three Israeli political consultants that literally decided the entire PSD doctrine). Truth be told, USR and PNL are the parties that will unequivocally bring refugees in Romania, as part of the refugee quota that we have refused due to social outcry (remember when our President agreed with it, then some villagers found out that they had to host shitskins and everything went under the radar?)
PSD needs to disintegrate, but sadly there are no Pro-Romanian, nationalistic parties out there as of now. I'd rather stay with PSD (believe it or not) and their corrupt cronies that only steal and steal, instead of getting myself into a USR-PNL fiasco that will bring multiculturalism to our doorstep. The only viable solution is to shill for a nationalistic party, as said in the OP and second post.
Henry Flores
born in timisoara, raised in germany. tho i still carry romania in my heart and some relatives still live there
Ryan Gutierrez
Thanks. Everything about foreigners students is right. I have one at my master from France. He is fucking *not real communism:D:D:D* and has a coalburner sister, but it's ok for him. In every debate about the immigrants, communism, demographics and so on, all his retarted arguments are feels, fake news, *I know better than you, I'm from France and it's all shunshine* etc. Oh, and guess what. We have a stundet from Somalia which has the Finnish citizenship. My professor allways tell us that she can't wait till he gets the fuck out from the country. He came here because it's cheap. So yeah, no SWJ or the communism mentality. No one would accept it here because the professors lived then and neither the young generation doesn't accept the communism bullshit. Only the foreigners are captivated by the propaganda.
Ian Price
there's a small chink minority, slowly growing in Bucharest, but it's not that big to be honest (same goes for chink students, you can barely count them on two hands). As for the other students: we have quite a lot of Arabs, indeed, but most of them return to their countries after they finish uni; we have a couple of nogs as well, from various African countries, but as I've said before, you can literally count them on two hands (even though they have been popping out a lot more lately, mainly in Bucharest and Cluj). Timisoara and Cluj have always been a heck of a lot more multicultural than Bucharest, for that matter, due to the geographic position of the cities (more close to the West), but the general population is and will continue to be 90%+ Romanian.
Mason Powell
Bulgaria bro, you forget a very important aspect of the gypsy culture. They have an unwritten law, and they all obey to their so called "king". Convince the king to go back, the rest will follow.
Tyler Garcia
Not at all. Romania has the problem of being rule by the former communist elite. I bet you have never had lustration?
>ALL taxes paid by employee, not employer >HIGHER taxes >NEW taxes >NO national investments >NO EU fund absorbtion >NO EU investments >MORE immigrants >CRIMINALS let out of prison, 8000 by 2018, by Tudorel Toader >CRIMINAL LAW fucking butchered it has become useless >Judges and prosecutors subdued to political powers, no longer independent
They are 100% soviet-socialist, this is 1947 all over again and I hear Stalin laughing from his grave.
Ryan Long
glad to hear user
Cameron Sanders
You do know that. we already have refugees? All is under the radar to not cause social outcry.
Daniel Rivera
We never had it. The "Timisoara proclamation" was never applied by FSN (PSD) after the 90's election, mainly because FSN was filled with second echelon commies. The Proclamation dictated that any first, second and third echelon communist party members would not have been allowed to participate in ANY democratic election, alongside their offsprings.
Heck, why do you think Iliescu won the 90's election and not Ratiu?
Jack Miller
The first step would be to start our own ONG, to involve ourselves in the public life and gain a reputation in front of the normies. Notable patriotic ong in romania is Actiunea 2012, which is the biggest in Romania. We need boots on the ground and lots of exposure on social media, while also creating our own websites for when we get banned, which is certain to happen. Once we get boots on the ground we can make our own protests, even if they are small, they would attract attention.
>Teodor Meleşcanu: România este pregătită să primească încă 1.942 de refugiaţi
Joseph Flores
Of course not, when the former president wanted to introduce the lustration law the entire gang across all political parties chimped out.
Jonathan Ross
thanks for the links, will look through them right now, I was mainly talking about foreign policy and topics such as the pro-family referendum, which were specifically designed to cater to the center-right electorate. Mind you, this entire positioning of PSD is only to garner votes for the next election, of course it's not a pure ideological shift.
Ryder Allen
I have some German roots as well, even some relatives that live in Austria and Germany, Oberösterreich and Bayerland respectively.
In Romania we know what kind of people are the Germans, and we respect and love them. But we will never forgive that Austrians have sided with Hungarians for the simple reasons that King Stephan had sworn fealty to the Catholic Church.
David Perez
read We have to start a grassroots movement that advocates for a pro-Romanian, nationalistic party, and the only way to do that is to not affiliate ourselves with any NGO's whatsoever. A pure, organic movement that starts from the street level and has no political / civic relation - literally bashing against everybody, whilst elevating the pro-Romanian spirit. There's enough time for it to garner enough support for a possible 5% entry in the 2020 elections, even more.
Hudson Johnson
>there are no right-winged parties in Romania (believe it or not, PSD is actually the closest to the right at the moment) WTF
Aiden Reed
always remember that 4 million Greco-Romani Catholic Romanians were stripped out of their religion and forced to convert to Orthodoxy by the commies, after '45. Always remember that most of the pro-unification politicians that advocated for Modern Romania were from Ardeal, and most of them were actually members of the Budapest Parliament when WW1 ended. Don't fall for the religion hate meme, our country would have never been created if not for the Catholic Romanians from Ardeal. Just check a list of the 1880-1940 Romanian politicians and check how many were from that place + their religion denomination.
Bentley Cook
Greco-Roman*
Brody Powell
I am not familiar with Illiescu. The only thing I noticed reading wiki about him is that he was a de facto dictator (the Minerraids) and a western puppet at the same time for which in turn the West tolerated him.
The general confirmed rule is that countries who have had lustration (Hungary, Poland and Czechia) are considered based and su chess full where as thoose who never had (Croatia Romania Bulgaria) are today poor puppet states of Brussels
Hunter Hill
>I was mainly talking about foreign policy What foreign policy?
I can keep going how bad he and his party made our relationships. May his entire family, friends and collaborators be cursed with their lineage to perish and die.
Robert Hughes
As a country with 3 "right-wing" parties in parliament, I'll tell you never to trust a politician.
ATAKA started off like 15 years ago with Volen Siderov hosting a 20-minute tv show in which he explained everything that's wrong with bulgarian politics and shit. He said all the right words, every patriot believed him.
15 years later he's Boko Borisov's bitch lapdog
They started off on the streets and when they ended up with the tiniest amount of power they turned on the people.
Justin Hernandez
Former commies replaced Moscow with Brussels and they rule you ever since.
Lincoln Fisher
Romanian Greek Catholic Church is in fact orthodox.
>priest dress as an orthodox priest >mass is the same as the orthodox mass >churches look more orthodox than catholic
I may be wrong, but from what I understand is that the Western Roman Empire never fell, but metamorphosed into the Catholic Empire.
See: >Teutonic Knights tries to settle Transylvania >Teutonic Crusades in Prussia >Conversion of Poland >Conversion of Ireland
Kayden Bell
Yep, Iliescu was seen as a possible successor of Ceausescu ever since the early 80s (can be backed up by CIA reports that have been declassified in the last couple of years). He was a de facto dictator that was elected by more than 85%+ of the population, mainly due to the constant shilling against the Ratiu movement (true Romanian, pro-monarchist, old WW2 liberal with close ties with the Iron Guard movement via its prominent members). Truth be told, Petre Roman was the true villain out of all the shitshow, as he was the one that completely dismantled the Romanian Industry in the 90's, turning us from a country with 0 foreign debt into a european satellite for importing products and whatnot.
>May his entire family, friends and collaborators be cursed with their lineage to perish and die.
Can't argue with that, camarad.
Leo Jenkins
Why do you guys hate the Hungarians living in your country so much?
Charles Young
Why do you guys hate the Mexicans living in your country so much?
Isaac Sanders
That's why I'm advocating for a grassroots movement that has nothing to do with the politicians themselves - moreover, that's why I'm saying that we shouldn't start this via various NGO's or through existing political parties. Given the current trust issues regarding ALL of the politicians in the Parliament, it's the perfect time to organically create and grow a movement that is against the entire political class, and FOR the people only.
Ethan Nelson
>reasons
Jace Richardson
>Greek Catholic Church is in fact orthodox. No. They use the Byzantine rite yet they are in full union with the Pope. Greek Catholics are one of 23 autonomus churches of the Catholic Church.
Adam Barnes
Yeah but i fear the new commies are even worse since many of their leaders are (((educated))) at soros university in Budapest. Thats how the former comies remained in power, miming patriotism while the pro-west shits don`t even bother hiding their intentions. Recently they banished their leader who created Usr party after year of evironmental activism, and they banished for not agreeing with the LGBT agenda.
Cameron Richardson
doar fii tu însuți
Easton Thomas
Yeah, it's true. My point was that a full conversion never happened in Transylvania, Romanians never changed their way of worship. They changed the name into Romanian Greek Catholic Church and said that from now on you'll answer to the Pope, but the Byzantine rite didn't changed
Kevin Perez
I like this poster .
Juan Taylor
I`m talking about creating our own NGO, not joining others. We need organization, to pool ressources, it`s hard on our own without contact in real life. Without organization it will fade fast. Of course we must keep our power level hidden, and act like we are a descentralized force, to be able to dodge any hostile action towards us. My friends, just like jews shill for new europeans, we must become the new jews.
Adrian Walker
Yep, that's true - as most Romanians that actually converted to Greek-Roman Catholicism did so mainly because they wanted to participate in the political life (aka represent the Romanian people in the Bulgarian Parliament) or because they wanted to integrate into the society itself, as the Magyars imposed heavy tax burdens and restrictions on the Orthodox Romanians. Nevertheless, millions of Catholic Romanians were stripped out of their religion by the commies, when instead they should have been praised for what they did for this country.
Caleb Cooper
Hungarian Parliament, Freudian slip over there*
Easton Cook
100% correct
Bentley Garcia
I completely agree with you on all points - especially the decentralization part (I was actually thinking of employing the same *cuib* tactic that the Iron Guard did, as it allowed freedom of movement and choice for the members as long as they followed the Legionary Handbook + it allowed the movement to ever expand, as there was never the issue of the leadership being decapitated all at once). Will start posting the Legionary Handbook in the next thread, it's actually filled with valorous information regarding organisation and movement-building.
Chase Stewart
But the most important thing is money. You need money for everything is this world, and since it`s almost imposible to attract public funds, we need to make the needed amount ourselves. And herein lies our greatest challenge.
Hunter Barnes
That sounds great, looking forward to it.
Andrew Russell
How Hitler said :
>Work bring capital, rather than capital bringing work
