Why are normies so dumb? I just had a friend tell me that black people born in England are ethnically British

Why are normies so dumb? I just had a friend tell me that black people born in England are ethnically British.

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why he wrong I don't know anything about UK please explain

Some retards just don't understand what ethnicity is.

You can not be ethnically British unless you are an Anglo. If you are a stupid nigger you can't magically become Anglo. You can hold citizenship in England as a nigger but you can never be British.

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They are a British citizen (as in citizen of Britain) but not ethnically British. Honestly they should be deported from the White man's homeland. Idgaf about "much ebil britishh empyre", that was a Rothschild sponsored regime that was used to establish global Jew influence and use it as a false justification to flood White countries with immigrants.

stupid fucking 56% amuttifat

black people with british accents works better for me, because you can tell immediately whether they are within communications range or not. american ones all sound like bix nood, from the smartest to the dumbest.

Ask them what makes an Amerindian ethnically different from you then

People pretend not to understand ethnicity out of their sense of progressive piety. He knows what he's saying is bullshit.

The mutt is right tho.

Is American an ethnicity?

where's your flag, flaggot?

Are British blacks more well spoken than American blacks?

No, it's a gender, you fucking bigot.

Probably an Amerimutt

No, because all white americans are a combination of different european ethnicities which are geographically still noticeable (irish people in south boston, norwegians in maine).

People confuse "nationality" with "ethnicity" constantly, especially when it comes to European and African ethnicities.

British citizenship has been so diluted that it sickens me.

British is not a ethnicity, so you're both retarded. Britain was a union of kingdoms. You people were subjects of the crown - and it was definitely not an ethno-state as that historically illiterate valley girl sounding faggot Spencer tries to imply. Why are you still pretending he somehow "destroyed" that black reporter? Spencer claimed that "citizenship" is a modern construct which is unecessary, yet he advocates for a state which would grant you CITIZENSHIP based on your race. And he is considered the intellectual creme de la creme of the alt-right? Sad!

Let them think what they want, is funny tho

So then what is it? A nationality?

Same. If anyone can just become British or American it has no worth or no meaning because anyone can be it. a 60 iq Sudanese is just as British as you are goy!!!

>Because everyone in UK were not clones, it was not an ethnostate.

If I shit in the kitchen does that make it food?

It will be

>serbian flag
>signalling against white identity
not surprising, ahmed.

Normies are cool.

Yes, pretty much a nationality

It was before we got flooded by Irish.

No, it's 12.

I was born in a hospital. Ethnically, I'm a gurney.

>Throw a sucker punch with a running start
>Do zero damage

What did faggots mean by this?

kill him

No.
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>Huhuhuhu Irish are the niggers of Europe

>Britain was a union of kingdoms
Britain is an island you formerly yugoslavian piece of shit.

Wouldn't they be African British? Or do they really not make that distinction in bongland.

No

Is British the ethnicity or just the name of the country? I thought the proper term was ethnically English.

How is possible to be that ugly and not kill yourself?

Based potato

Ask him if you get a Chinese passport do you become a Chinese

>Ethnically British

British isn't even an ethnicity, it's a citizenship formed from the union of England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland.

Once had a coworker that said North Korea could take over the world because they didn't sign the geneva convention and was therefore allowed to do whatever they wanted because nobody was allowed to shoot back

That hyphenated identity stuff began in the USA. We don't really have a big history of it. (Brit in Japan)

When the Irish mass emmigrated to America, the english-blooded white Americans referred to themselves as the ethnic Americans.

This.

There was no concept of "British ethnicity", this was a union of three separate kingdoms (englishmen, scots, irish - these were ethnicities). The people were subjects of the crown and not sovereigns of their own - When Dickie Spencer is dissing "citizenship" as a unnecessary modern construct, he just shows how fucking dumb he is. The very concept of a his white ethno-state is impossible to imagine without the notion of a citizenship, where members of a certain race are granted to get, and like he says "be in control of their desteny" - clearly a populist concept which puts them in the role of a sovereign - this is antithetical to a Kingdom.

slovenian

>There was no concept of "British ethnicity",
>Thus British ethnicity didn't exist
>There was no concept of heliocentric solar system
>thus sun orbited Earth

this is correct.
There are English Irish Scottish and Welsh. British is a spook that lets niggers pretend they belong.

This picture looks like chris cantwell

British is still not a ethnicity.

> this was a union of three separate kingdoms (englishmen, scots, irish - these were ethnicities)

Ergo, when someone refers to British ethnicity they mean one of those the ethnic groups of the British isles. So you're wrong and you've also forgotten Wales.

I agree. It's a geographic entity though, not a political one as you suggest.

Britain is a land mass consisting of around 5000 islands. England means land belonging to Anglos.
Anglo being a race. It's possible to be black British but not black English.

>It's possible to be black British
Stop making concessions, retard. It's not possible to be black English, black British, black European, black white or black human.

Reminder

Because this "ethnicity", if you really wan't to call it that (but it's wrong), was a political construct of Kangz and Dickie is speaking in these abstract terms like it was always there, only to be discovered - it wasn't . You are forgetting that "white nationalism" implies that white people should be in control of their "destiny" - this means white people are to be the popular sovereign -which is a concept borrowed from civic nationalism of the French revolution - which Spencer again rejects, like the dumbfuck he is.

Ethnicity and race are not the same thing lol baka

>I redefine terms
>therefore I'm right
>British is not an ethinicity, because it can be subdivided further
>also, Richard Spencer causes such gargantuan butt hurt to me that I can't shut up about him

>which Spencer again rejects, like the dumbfuck he is
Explain how he rejects the concept of a popular sovereign.

True. Cro Magnon is the real G.

The distinction is there, they are supposed to sign one of fout things on the census: Black British, Black African, Black Caribbean or black other. Of course there is no such thing as someone who is "black British" unless you're using it in the medieval sense to refer to someone with black hair. British means you are either an Anglo or a Celt, not an African or paki.

Slightly off topic but I was just looking up the etymology of England and found this:

>Old English Engla land, literally "the land of the Angles" (see English (n.1)), used alongside Angelcynn "the English race," which, with other forms, shows Anglo-Saxon persistence in thinking in terms of tribes rather than place.

Seems like most British people have given up thinking in terms of tribe, thus allowing the concept of "Black British" and "British born Chinese" simply due to being born within our geographic realm.

Also makes me think of the Jews who had the same attitude for those several thousand years without a homeland.

>If you are a stupid nigger
No idea why but this is so funny.

Daily reminder that ethnoracism stuff is just shitty tribalism. Just because nations was more ethnically pure back in time doesn't mean it was "natural". It was just a product of poor transportation and isolation.

We don't live in that world anymore. We have a lot of old garbage memes still clinging on in our culture. From religion to ethno nationalism. Either we will get rid of that crap as the world evolves or maybe it'll see a resurgence if the world is brought to a more dire straight and going heavy on tribalism actually becomes relevant to other people than virgin wizards.

No matter how wrong spencer is on the concept of citizenship, he is right that a black can never be British because blacks have 0 ancestry from the Brotish isles, unless they're slave rape babies, but that's too diluted to count.

Spotted the Jew.

>flag
Color me surprised.

>Just because our ancestors had sex with their wives and fought off invaders doesn't mean it's natural. We don't live in that world anymore. We have a lot of old garbage memes still clinging on in our culture. We can't evolve unless we let Ahmed and his cousins in to bed our wives.

SWEDE

Britain is part of the Irish isles

He jumps from being almost a old school traditionalist - rejecting the notions of equality by not even knowing what it means. In an interview he laughed at the concept of equality by cynically dismissing it; "do you really believe all people are just the same" - this is not what equality is about while discussing political philosophy. It's not about believing we are fucking clones of each other. It's a concept that citizens of a state, no matter of their differences (be it gender, creed, race...etc) are to be treated equally under the law. They are eligible to the same civic rights and duties as their fellow citizens.

Then again when he talks about a "white ethno-state" he moves from his previous anti-egalitarian elitist position to clear populism. He believes in a creation of a ethno-state where "white people" will be in charge of their "destiny" - this clearly shows that he is borrowing classical Jacobin civic populism of the French revolution era , albeit twisting it to fit his racialist agenda - he is using Jacobin notions of popular sovereignty by the people while turning it into a racialist argument. Power to the people, but only white people in my ehtno state.

What he ends up sounding is like a your average semi-educated fedora tipper who just got in into some egy hard-core political philosophy and does not yet have all the concepts cleared for him.

The swede gets it

Keep that reputation thriving Swede.

>citizens of a state, no matter of their differences (be it gender, creed, race...etc) are to be treated equally under the law. They are eligible to the same civic rights and duties as their fellow citizens.
Y tho

>treating unequal people equally makes sense
>giving names to arguments invalidates the arguments

Why do you think American whites should not seek their own self governance with their own popular sovereign. The reason why is largely irrelevant imo they don't need to justify it at all. For example if i wish to only associate with whites then that is my decision alone.

man or woman?

if a white person is born in china, he is chinese?

its this whole destruction and delusion of identity and race.

if it was anything but humans we'd call "races" "sub-species".

Biological classifications is the only thing of merit everything else is largely a spook. Luckily there is such a thing as a European Phenotype.

Spencer is laughing at the notion that the races and genders are equal, which is something that every education system and media in all western nations is currently in the process of brainwashing all of our children into believing. This belief leads to chaos. Do you even have a problem with this you humongous faggot? Doesn't sound like you do.

sweden is doomed :(

we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children

>Biological classifications is the only thing of merit
How does it have any merit? Sure, the groups are real, but the borders between them are arbitrary. Biological classification is just a clustering problem, where we've arbitrarily decided the number of clusters. You could make just as good arguments to call blacks and whites different races, different sub species or different species altogether.

If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it. We live in a postmodern world, where nothing is real anymore. Nothing is certain and reality can be changed

So what they constantly do is tell the people all kinds of bullshit, like this strange reasoning that a nigger born in the UK can somehow be an ethnic Brit

>How does it have any merit?

It has predictive validity retard.

no its a type of burger with kosher turkey bacon

>It has predictive validity retard.
That literally has zero to do with my argument. Retard.

>How does it have any merit?
Because with DNA testing you can determine where a Homsapien comes from and to use an analogy if we want to preserve biological diversity then we don't import African carp into that environment.
The concept of black and white is a poor one i don't think we should be deciding race based on skin colour at all. Americans should accept the fact that they are part of the greater European diaspora but their pride will never let them do this at all. Instead of saying i am American white they should be saying i am an American Caucasian this is an accurate reflection of their biological reality.

Its just because their own ancestry is so shit with 0 good culture that they just latch on to something else

Its the same reason that Americans take such insane pride in their ancestry, gleeful y proclaiming "Im from a Scottish clan!" or "My ancestors built Germany!"

Yes, the hierarchy is evident, but it still doesn't validate the classification. That is because the hierarchy would be evident regardless of the number of clusters. There is literally no reason to call a bengal tiger any different from a sumatran tiger. And there is no reason to call them the same either.

Not the argument I was making. I was replying to you about Spencer's pseudo-intellectual larperism. It is amazing at just how dumb this guy is, considering he went to elite private schools his daddy payed for him, yet he still manages to ahistorically mix concepts, misreading them, while switching from contradictory positions as he sees fit. The fact that he is considered one of the leading figures of the alt-right just shows that intellectually the movement is not that far away from semi-iliterate nazi skinheads from the 1980s, but I guess the fashy hair and suits make up for the intellectual deficit.

You claimed it didn't have merit, I pointed out how those classification do have merit. What are you rambling about?

>alt-right leader
Holy fuck is that what the normies think?

>normies think
Good one, m8

Well yes imo there is, if you want to determine what a Tiger is other than a mammalian carnivore that will fuck your shit up with claws. Maybe i am missing something here and you could explain it better to me. I am looking at this for the purpose of human classification of each other for the purpose of preserving biological diversity.

shills like to push leader Sup Forums even though real /polacks/ do not identify as alt right. so basically its the shills shilling a leader for the other shills, and claiming its indicative of the actual people they came here to shill. its all very convoluted.

Yeah then thats not an argument. People have a right to self determination and freedom of association they don't need to justify it at all.

People living in Anatolia may be descended from Hittites, Phrygians, Lydians, Assyrians, Greeks, Armenians, Oghuz Turks and Mongols, but that doesn't stop them considering themselves to beling to one Turkish ethnicity today. Ethnic groups mix, are absorbed, assimilated or dissolved over time and in the same way, just because someone's ancestors belonged to a West African tribe, that doesn't mean they or their children and grandchildren cannot assimilate with British culture and become absorbed into the British ethnicity over time.