Race

this isn't a /leftypol/ raid its an honest question that i've got for you fags, what is so important about race? im a 56 percenter as you can tell but i just want to know what is so important about your race?

lets say you are the superior race, whatever race you are. What does that matter? Would you ever be able to convince all the people in your race that you are superior? Because right now the image is that all are equal.

And what is the end goal of your "superior race"? What do you want?
You create an ethnocentric state, kick everybody else out, then what? Do you really think that the people involved are going to be morally okay with this especially now a days?

all im saying is that you will never get the full support of everyone in your race.

im just saying if you are a real hard "muh race gahdammit we must PRESERVE!! KICK THEM OUT" you (with no authority) are wishing for a magic land, it's like if I was an advocate for building rainbow road with the ramps and go carts that can fly and shit

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>Be alien
>Conquer half the galaxy
>Other aliens can't compete
>Give them gibs on technology
>They start living the life we live
>Our species is declining
>Our technology is being perverted
>Unnecessary wars in times of peace
>Space jews convinces everyone it's bad for us to come back otherwise we'll hoard the resources when we'lve just been advancing technology and try to give peace to all
>I give a thousand yard stare to any other alien who says that its ok if we're wiped out though we provided them with everything.
>Ungrateful bastards

It’s just d&c and useful ignorants. Same shit different decade.

Honest reply. If a bunch of white people were immigrating to Japan and forcing the Japanese to change their culture to accommodate them, were rude, ungrateful, increased crime in the areas they lived and were a huge pain in the ass do you think the Japanese would have a valid cause to complain or would you accuse them of racism because they were just being prejudiced against whites? What about if Japanese people complained their culture was being diluted by the fact they have to accommodate so many people who have differing values and beliefs, valid complaint?

Nations exist for a reason and until very recently Europe, North America and Australia were all 95%+ white (Not the US because of their unique bit of history with importing slaves, but still high). They're facing the exact same hypothetical situation I just proposed except when we say our culture is being diluted we get accused of bigotry and racism.

>space jews
KEK +1

thats an argument for culture not race. I understand the necessity for culture in ones race, that every race has a certain culture and how they act.
Those are very valid complaints and i wouldn't call that racism, i would call that preserving the culture that they live in.
I'm talking about the people who argue for an ethnocentric state, people who say that their race is superior to all others and that race mixing with others is degenerate and bad.

>lets say you are superior race, why would that matter?
In principle it wouldn’t. We could literally all live in peace, some races doing better than others.

But here’s where a wrench is thrown: what happens if a genetic success brought about by superiority is used to justify the oppression of an inferior race? What if people who believe to be equal to all others (something that is clearly flawed, even within one’s own race) justify their failures on the superior race, which has done nothing to them but simply succeeds more because of said superiority?

Imagine a running race if you will, where blacks have shown themselves to be the best race. Imagine now that some white dude is like:” that black dude is weighing me down with oppression so the black runner should run with weights!”

This is the first step of leftism. Then comes the unimaginable: even with his lead weights (a metaphor of diversity policies and affirmative action), the black runner stil outruns whitey.

The unfairness stings, and the white runner begins to call the system rigged (metaphor for institutionalized racism). He reasons that the only way to balance the playing field is to have whites in position of power for this running race, replacing the black judges who rightfully dominate this field. The hatred ebbs and flows and what started as mere jealously turns into full blown racial hatred for another race.

That is why it is important to mind your race and care for your people, to stand up to the white runner and tell then:” no fuck off, you are simply incapable of winning because you naturally suck”.

The white runner being a metaphor for diversity promoting people.

>thats an argument for culture not race
Culture is inextricably linked to race. People with the same race, cultural heritage and values band together to form a nation. There is a strong link between racial homogeneity and lower crime and higher standard of life. Throwing a bunch of people of different races into a big mixing pot doesn't work, hasn't worked and will never work. Racial identity is core to national identity and people who deny that their country was build for their race lose touch with their culture.

Not everyone is equal.
Do you actually believe that the average japanese college student is as smart from a somalian student? i think not

The end goal is everyone should be eugenicised to be an intelligent caucasian or asian.

Negroid race is out of the question.

>magic land
It's not that hard to formulate another black plague or to replace another population through the mongrelization
It's happening right now.

And if you don't actually care about your race then please go marry a nigger no one is stopping you to have ugly and lower mean average iq kid.

We'll eugenicise caucasians even if there's only 50 persons left.
Pleae don't forget to starve yourself commie.

Countries that are racially homogenous are far more stable than multicultural ones end of story.

I don't even think whites are really that superior, just a lot smarter and less violent than dindus, spics and Injuns. Whites who are racially aware know that white ethno-states would have LESS problems and complications than a multi-race one. Hell, some states (Montana, Maine) are essentially white ethno-states already, and take a gander at their crime statistics. Meanwhile California, Illinois (Chicago), Maryland, Florida, Texas all have much, much higher rates of relative crime. I wonder why...

bro aren't you supposed to be eating out of the trash right now?
HOW ARE YOU TYPING TO ME OFF OF OLD NEWSPAPER

I close my eyes and can only see brown and blacks abusing the people I love. It's my worst nightmare, once a reality. My ancestors fought for the independence of an Island only to lose it 3 generations later to Marxist black militants lead by Fidel and his cronies, and I can see the same happening here. It always starts with victimization of one to advocate and rally radical actions around. If there are no "victims" or people of minority ethnic identities then we can all live in peace without threat of Marxist uprising or severe inequality issues.

I really, really don't want to see my kids and grandkids turned into props for violent brown people acting out their historical revenge fantasies in the real world.

I understand, But imagine if we rasied 5 different race of babies, with 5 parents male and female all with the same clothes, same hair same everything and all the parents talked the same, what would the culture of those 5 babies be?

Would those 5 babies who think that they are brother and sister care about who is what color and different sorts of that?
I completely argree thought that culture is connected to race, and that culture is important, but i just don't understand why it is necessary to claim that other races need to be away for you to be successful and to live a fulfilling life, not everyone is equal and not every race is equal but shouldn't it be more individualized? Shouldn't we care more about who the person is rather than what race?

Culture is an aspect of genes expressing themselves in their environment. An 85 IQ Sub-Saharan African (pure homo-sapien) and a 103 IQ Japanese person (homo-sapien/neanderthal hybrid) would never be able to understand, create, and maintain the same kind of culture.

Culture is the flower; biology is the root.

I understand that, like women in the IT sector, they get special treatment just so the company can look more diverse, but does that mean that their aren't women who are just as good as men?

I do completely agree it should be about who is the best at the job, but however it can be reversed.

If you own a bakery down the street, and you have 2 chefs that you want to hire one is white and one is black,
they both are at the same level of baking, both are nice honest people, the only difference between them is their skin color,
you are going to hire the white one, specifically based on race. And that is an advantage for your race. And that is not okay, it should be based on merit.

are you sure that these people have IQ's because of who they are and not the environment or educational system they are in?

>I'm talking about the people who argue for an ethnocentric state, people who say that their race is superior to all others

These are two completely different things. Just because you want your people to have a home where they aren't a minority doesn't mean you think they're better than everyone.

Yes, IQ is one of the most thoroughly and exhaustively studied statistical measures on earth and is consistently show to be at minimum 75% heritable. It can be influenced by things like a severe lack of nutrition, by educational systems don't affect it much.

There are legitimate, measurable differences between the separate human ethnicities that stem from thousands of years of isolated evolution under different environmental conditions which prioritized different traits for survival. Humans evolved to function in a tribal structure, and ethno-centrism is simply modernized tribalism, from a Darwinian standpoint, ethno-centric fascism is the most logical form of government, and it is one we intend to implement. We don't need the entirety of our race, as little as fifty thousand is entirely achievable, more than enough for a stable gene pool, and more than enough to ensure a future for white children.

>And that is an advantage for your race. And that is not okay, it should be based on merit.
Why?

>I don't want children the post

OP is a faggot

why do you think that it is wrong for races to have an advantage when they are "weaker"?
Why do you think that race should matter to employment at all?

im already your fucking daddy eat a crumpet you british fuck or ill shoot you with a gun which you can't own you non gun owning piece of brithish shit

What you fail to understand in yor 1990s method of thinking is that while yes, ideally you would be hiring the most qualified for the job, and while that might work even today for a bakery of two people, this could never work for a large business. If you consider for a minute the racial differences not only in IQ, but more importantly in terms of number of qualified degrees, you will quickly find that hiring based on merit will lead to a company of only whites and asians and nothing else.

The response to such an act of fairness is media crucification, where you will be doned as an anti-black company.

To make matters worse, your associates will distance themselves from you in an effort to remain “good” in the eyes of the public, forcing you to lose profit at the expense of not being diverse (ie the lead weights in my example)

But this isn’t enough, nor will it ever be, even if all whites were to drop dead tomorrow: blacks want to see their racial average reach that of whitey. In this company example, what you will find is that even with these financial impediment, this non-black company will still outperform the black businesses. This will infuriate them. How dare the white and asian man outperform blacks even with a handicap?

They will call the system rigged. The following will of course never happen, but let’s say they immediately gain absolute power in the US. Sure, they will kill all white businesses and such, making white americans poor, but they will also try to make blacks rich. This will simply never happen as they will be in competition with asian and other european companies. Even with absolute power, they will never raise the average black man to the level of the white man, and for this truth, they will resent us. They will despise us, and asians as well, although us first.

In this example, you have a race of superiors who did not act as a collective, who willingly laid down their power and acted veritably against their [1/2]

Lol if you're white you'll obviously benefit if other white people would show a preference.
I don't believe the kind of logic you seem to follow with helping races deemed "weaker" (racist af btw) is actually common outside of whites. I cannot imagine a black/asian/l*tino acting the same.

Go subscribe to alternative hypothesis and read up on genetics you fucking tard

Pro tip: culture is downstream from genetics

Also- I alluded to it in my earlier post, but one of the biggest mistakes of proponents of Human Neurocognitive Uniformity such as yourself is that they tend to think of humans as a collective body of homo-sapiens; when they acknowledge "races" or broad biological differences, they usually attribute these simply to the different population groups evolving and developing in radically different environments- Africans having traits selected for by a hot, sunny, tropical environment; Europeans having traits selected for by cold northern environments, etc. Even a lot of race realists think the differences end at this.

They're incorrect. In fact, the collections of modern hominids that we refer to as humans come from vastly different hominid lineages. Sub-Saharan Africans, with some small pockets of exceptions, are pure homo-sapien; the only people on earth for whom this is the case. All Europeans and Asians are the result of interbreeding between homo-sapient and neanderthals. Australian Aboriginals, Polynesians, and some populations in southern Asia are about 5% Denisovan, another now-extinct early humanoid.

We don't yet know exactly what the impact of all this admixture is. We do know that neanderthals had larger cranial capacity 100,000 years ago than modern humans with modern nutrtition do today. We know that they were using complex tools and may have been sailing the Mediterranean as long as 50,000 years ago. We know that neanderthalic Asians and Europeans have average IQs that are at least one standard deviation (15 points) above pure homo-sapien Sub-Saharans, and are even higher above those mixed with Denjsovans. We know that no non-neanderthalic hominid population has ever discovered the wheel or created a system of writing.
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I don't know if you noticed this, but in the US, all other racial groups are very preoccupied by race and are more ethnocentric than whites. Among other things, they tend to vote in blocs and generally advocate for policy on behalf of their own group.

Would it be a better country if people completely moved beyond thinking in terms of their own race? You could have a debate about that. What you can't have a debate about is the fact that whites in America have, for the last 60 years, moved away from this sort of ethnocentric/tribal thinking while other groups have not reciprocated.
Continuing on a path where all of the other groups are concerned with their collective interest, while your group is not, will lead to your group's displacement and demise. This should be axiomatic—it is a basic principle of competition and human interaction.

Many (but not all) people on here, like myself, spent a good number of years as some of the fiercest critics of identity politics, as people on the right often are. But eventually the realization discussed above set in; that over the last 60 years, other racial groups in the US had, if anything, become more ethnocentric.

Maybe in some distant future people will abandon their racial in-group preference, but until other racial groups start taking the lead on this issue, whites will continue to lose their power in society. Because individualism in a world of collectivism is suicide.

[2/2] ... own interests. In this example, you have Sweden, who are so desperate to include diversity that they will willingly face genocide for their diversity. I will never allow this to happen to my people, and for that reason, race is paramount in my objectives.

For that reason, i abide to the will of national socialism. I will always act in the interest of my people and race and i will never consider the consequences that these acts may have on other races. My people, man and woman, take absolute priority over everything else. Their well-being is capital to my interests, and through this mode of thinking, my people will survive this leftists sacrifice that you are unknowingly advocating for, whether you admit it or not.

I also dont hate you for the way you think, you are simply holding your opinions, but if it comes to tooth and claw, i will fight for my beliefs.

So, the HNU theory that all human populations have the same potential for intelligence and cognitive capabilities is questionable even when you're just talking about the same kind of hominid developing for tens of thousands of years in radically different environments. When you take into account that modern humans are actually a distinct collection of different hominid groups with different histories of interbreeding with other early humanoids, HNU becomes simply an absurdist position; an ideological stance, not a scientific belief

>Faggot.
>Obsession with "guns"

I think we all know which way OP prays

noise, op BTFO

Space jews lel

But true story tho.

race realism is just basic game theory: obviously if your group doesn't even co-operate with itself you have no group so lose, but if you try and be super nice and co-operate with all groups all it takes is interacting with one other group that either doesn't co-operate at all or only co-operates with itself to fuck you over and you lose, but if you are a group that only co-operates with itself you can work together and get shit done but don't risk being fucked over by other groups that operate like yourself or that don't co-operate at all, and if everyone operated like that then everyone could be successful from getting along with their own business and not being able to bother anyone else

so basically yeah we could all get along, if 100% of the participants wanted to do that, but when if that's not the case, like in reality, then you're going to get rekt trying it and succeed the most by working with your group

This

It’s not about “being superior”
It’s not living around violent savages


One of these things is not like the other

Yes
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Ethnostates already exist. Many areas in the world are >95% white. Even without knowing, whites create ethnostates, because niggers are insufferable and nobody wants near them. That's normally called "white flight" but it's just people wanting to live better lives, away from the nigger disease.

>what is so important about race
why are you asking?