Why can’t we have a free healthcare system? Europe and Canada have good ones

Why can’t we have a free healthcare system? Europe and Canada have good ones.

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Europe and Canada isn't filled with spics and niggers.

One day my lad!

I dont know how it is in other european countries but here the healthcare system is a beurocratic mess with extremely long waittimes. State funded healthcare cant possibly compete with private healthcare cause private has the motivator of profits while state-run doesnt.
Although the nightmareish combination you have in the US doesnt seem good either.

Fucking leave my country cunt.

the patient in europe is dead after sitting in the waiting room for 6 hours while internally bleeding
smiling due to rigor morits

America has the best 5-year survival rate of cancer in the world, and the best non-plastic surgeons

your thread is garbage

This just in: No they don't.

But american doctors are amongst the best.

It's not free and the systems aren't that good.

Also too many shitskins

Shh sweet child, you got the best healthcare in the world as long as you are not a lazy fuck. You don't want to die in lines and due to medical misconduct.

>those noses in the American side

Because Americans are idiots.

A social system costs less and has better outcomes, but a lot of downright morons here think it's literally Stalin coming to put grandma in death camps. All so already rich kikes in the medical and pharmaceutical field can make a little bit more money.

Yea, American healthcare is profit based. You know how you make a profit in healthcare? You treat your patients better than the competition and heal them as fast as you can.

Canada’s healthcare is broken. So is Europe’s. Lazy non-whites broke it. Go kill yourself you lazy brown faggot.

dailymail.co.uk/health/article-189463/Britains-Third-World-hospitals.html

What a shitty post, European clinics are also profit based, just because we have "free" health insurance does not mean hospitals aren't making any money.

Lmao if you think our third world socialist health care with 8 month specialist waiting times is "good"

Nothing is free

They dont pay to defend themselves and rely on Daddy America's cold hard cash to do the job their citizens should be doing.

How old are you?

Also as an add-on we can't even begin to think of suing doctors for malpractice here thanks to the medical association requiring other doctors to vouch on cases, and in doing that they almost lose their licenses for helping the little guy. It's like a healthcare mafia

From what I understand your healthcare system is as bad as a third world country.

>(((lawyer)))

Canadian healthcare is shit

I don't want my effective tax rate to be 60%

Herb

Healthy profits means healthy patients. You cannot have healthy profits when you are being sued into the ground. Even if you "win" the lawsuits, you're still losing a tremendous amount of money on court costs.

I fucking hate that fucking kind of trolling, because some retards end up actually believing that shit. Nothing is free in life. We pay less for healthcare because we are taxed to oblivion for everything else. We have a fucking 20% VAT and a skyrocketing inflation. Our medical system is garbage, outdated, shitty doctors. Pure shit.

I bet in your system the shitskins get better healthcare than the whites?

Self check since none of your faggots want to check posts any longer

Haha not representative of the NHS
I've worked with doctors and for them it's balancing their budget above all.
They've been known to constantly write prescriptions for drugs that are no longer in production because their computer told them that it was the cheapest option.
Every time there's a drug shortage the doctors are reluctant to prescribe something else because the alternative would be more expensive so their medicines manager denies that the shortage exists and the patient has to wait a couple of weeks without their medicine until the doctors finally give in and recognise that there is indeed a shortage.

Britain is off the coast of Europe, it's not really "white".

Wir haben die besten Krankenhäuser der Welt, ich weiß, dass wir gegen das jüdische Narrativ kämpfen, aber hör mit diesen voreingenommenen Aussichten auf, die du aus konservativen Richtungen in dich schaufelst.
Du weißt schon, dass man kritisch gegenüber JEDER politischen Ausrichtung sein sollte, oder?

How are shitskins ruining our healthcare system? Is it because you have to wait a couple of hours before your general practicioner calls you in? Then be up earlier, make an appointment or find a different office.

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healthcare.

You heard right. Asked for ages to get a tonsillectomy because I was constantly sick and run down, infections several times a year. Finally had it done after waiting years and nearly died because it had gotten so deep the surgeon had to stitch me to stop hemorrhaging. For something I had begged for since childhood.
I'd say third world is accurate

Of course they do, and they don't pay anything at all. Actually, any shitskin who doesn't even have citizenship or residency can come to France, and get the most expensive surgery, completely free of charge. Leftists are very proud that we are the only country in the world doing that. Supposedly, the bill is later sent to the shitskin's country of origin, however in practice, the countries just don't pay up and France just stands down like a bitch. Algeria alone owns us like 100 billion in healh costs, that they'll never pay.

If the European system is so great then why not move there?
It would be nice to have something other than sand niggers moving here.

>Free

As usual. fpbp.

OYYY VEYYYYYYY

We gonna have this thread every day?

I mean, I'm down. Make it a meme please.

It’s not a combination we literally just have both systems and it’s retarded.

>cost less

Wrong

>better results

Wrong

I’ll be seeing your countries rich here all the time when they really need some medical treatment, they will fly to USA

Because
1.Youre too fat so its too expensive
2.doctors have shit wages so they
3.go private in spare time and treat you like shit in free healthcare

Why do retarded communists think Europe is a utopia?

Just look at the UK, the NHS needs massive reform as it's on death's door. Here, it's rare you ever get to see a doctor unless you go to a private clinic or you're dying.

>Europe and Canada
I went to the local clinic for my yearly checkup, one of the two triage nurse station/rooms had a piece of paper with "Immigrants/Refugees" written on it and taped to the door. Regular people were limited to the other one and it took an hour for me to see my family doctor.

Free healthcare does not work with open borders.

t. Retarded weenie whose ideological expectations do not meet reality. This might have been true immediately out of WW2, but not now.

Do you have any idea how often doctors and nurses in the UK protest because their resources (money, and physical interactivity they get with each patient) are stretched so thinly?

>healthy patient above all
>europe
Ahahaha, no.

This is a talking point, but it's not baked up by any facts. Most wealthy people in other nations use their doctors and hospitals over there. The ones that do come to America are usually here to see specialists.

Conversely, rich American citizens will often travel to nations with socialist health care for treatment, because it costs less. You can fly to Chile, get an appendix removed, spend 2 months vacationing, and fly back home for less than the cost of an appendectomy in the USA. How is that "success"?

>The kraut denies there is anything wrong with its precious EU's model for Europe
Right on cue. Do a dance, you dumb monkey.

Doctors and nurses protest in the USA too, dingbat. The UK is in the process of American-izing their health care system, not the best example. If you want to compare the USA to France you should take your right wing crazy pills first, because France beats us on pretty much every metric while spending a third as much as we do.

I think Germany has pretty good healthcare, sure hospitals are crowded and you can wait a pretty long while, but if it's urgent issue you get care quickly.
However to call it "free" is just false. Everyone pays for it.

Free healthcare is designed as a safety net for individuals who fall by the wayside. It cannot function if a large chunk of your population are non-contributing freeloaders. America could make it work right now, but in a generation or two the ratio between givers and takers will be so lopsided as to make maintaining the system impossible (unless literally the whole white population was employed by hospitals).

European countries, within the next 50-100 years, will also be facing a difficult situation. Either adopt a market lead system or be content with Mexico tier health care.

It very much does cost more in America. Insurance companies demand huge discounts from drug manufacturers and hospitals and to recuperate the costs they increase their prices. This power creep has been going on for decades.
For example a box of 28 generic simvastatin tablets costs around $10 in America while in England the NHS pays £0.53 according to the current drug tariff.

This is wrong.

The american health insurance system regularly loses billions of dollars in unpaid bills. There is a better chance of capitalism collapsing than the EU adopting a failed market based model.

Because we don't (and we can't) spend 700 billions for military supremacy.

The protests are for different reasons, and the NHS is not going to be privatised.
They were considering it, but it was incredibly unpopular. They want to reform it, but it will not be anything like America's system. It'll crumble long before morons like you who want the government to control everything will realise it's a bad idea.

Let me guess, you feel incredibly educated on France's healthcare system after watching a Michael Moore "documentary". Do you realise how monumentally stupid you look telling Europeans they are wrong they are about the things they have lived and experienced first hand?

Yeah, capitalism is going to collapse any minute now, especially now the markets are doing so great. How fucking dumb are you communists? Rhetorical question, just in case you're too dumb to understand.

The NHS also gets attacked by the tories as too expensive.

So take a different example. In NYC right now everybody is shitting themselves over the subway, which was an engineering marvel of the world in transportation, a huge network of trains running under the city 24 hours a day. Most other major global cities that I know of with subways aren't 24 hours, Tokyo nightlife partially revolves around the last train being at something like 12am? But anyways, NYC subway is also a piece of shit because of various factors that have been talked about. It doesn't get updated because it runs 24 hours a day, the unions in NYC benefit from corruption and are overpaid, the government itself has mismanaged MTA funds. But this isn't because government in general is shit at building subways. The Tokyo subway system is split between two different entities, one is considered public and owned by the Japanese government while the other is private, but it is owned by the japanese government and tokyo metropolitan government in partnership. It is clean as fuck and makes a profit. Other metropolitan transportation systems throughout the world that also run on union labor and operate through city governments can cost 3 times as little as the NYC subway to maintain and upgrade.

Which is all just to say NYC has a corrupt, third world government when it comes to maintaining their subway, but that doesn't mean the subway can't be managed by a government. The NHS has problems as well, but it is an institution that has benefited the public and is very popular. People want it fixed, much like the subway, and not replaced with privatization.

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He didn't say that a market based model couldn't work, only that the US model didn't work.

They don't have a free market of health-care. You do have private health-care providers in Norway for instance, working side by side with the public system. This is different from the French and Canadian systems. There's many ways of doing "socialized medicine" or whatever the fucking thing is called in the US today. Why would the US model be the only one for private-only medicine? (Which isn't even private-only, what do you think Medicaid is?)

Because your niggers will ruin it just as they are ruining ours

The major difference being that the NHS was never private, and that as the population grew post WW2 it became unsustainable. Largely in part due to the massive influx of people using the service, and a lack of funds.

Yet, why should people who contribute to society have to pay not only for lazy people's benefits, but also for the healthcare system that lets these fat sacks of shit get healthcare without putting anything in?

The only reason government does this is to keep a supply of poverty stricken, depressed, fat, lazy and stupid people voting for labour, democrats and their equivalents society wide. And not only do we have to pay for those people anymore, but the imported, violent, dumb and uncivilised workforce the EU gracefully bestowed upon us.

The patients are the problem desu. Seems to me the doctors deserve that much money having to deal with their shit.

He didn't specify US at all, and he directly implied that capitalism is the model that is failing whilst being ignorant of the fact that Europe is largely capitalist itself. It's not pure capitalism, obviously, but still.

He thinks that capitalism in America is failing. How?

Nowhere has free market of healthcare, yet American healthcare is amongst the best in the world despite that. Some of their hospitals are more like hotels than most I've seen around Europe which are more akin to hostels and with the environment and sometimes treatment to match.

The UK is also outsourcing some work to the private sector because the NHS simply does not have enough workers or beds to accommodate everybody. This allows some in the private sector to price gouge, further compounding the problem. In fact, a majority of public sector work in all aspects are this way now.

So much this. Imagine being a doctor working for the NHS. People coming to see you generally aren't happy because they're ill, then they take out their anger on you because they've been kept waiting for so long to get anything done and the foreign Philippino and African nurses have been cunts to them.

The UK can't afford to help pay to train its own nurses anymore, so now they import third worlders with higher chance of malpractice, and because they're not native they often don't understand elderly people who might use idioms foreigners don't understand, or accents and dialects they don't understand. Then on the reverse, the broken English and potentially thick foreign accents of foreign health workers. It's a fucking mess.

I dont know how it's going in the UK, but over here in memeland, we suffer a big lack of doctors, and our healthcare system can't allow new ones to start practicing.

>Canadian healthcare.....

There is no such thing as free healthcare. Fuck off you retarded commie scum.