What would eastern european countries be like if they stayed capitalist?

What would eastern european countries be like if they stayed capitalist?

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They would be like everyone else. The only reason they are in the position they are in is because they were poor from communist rule. They will soon be wealthy again and will have problems of their own caused by the Americanization of Europe and The EU.

Enriched and diverse

Richer but as degenrate or maybe more than western Europe.
Communism was a curse and a blessing at the same time.

I'd rather be poor but have my culture untouched by negroes and arabs.

Keep our monarchies and great people, have stable nations and we will be a threat to the Soviet Union most likely.

Colonies on Mars but also this

Probably full of vibrant diversity

WW2 left some scars on Poland
Western betrayal and holocaust left some serious damage on our trust towards other nations

So Poland would be very hesitant to join EU

>Eastern Europe
>Capitalism

Maybe still would have a future. Definitely would not be impoverished, in our case atleast.

If the Communists never came to power in Russia then it would actually be a decent country.

The communists killed off all intellectuals and academia and then after that they killed off all dissenters to the new rule. This was to create a race of what Trotsky called "White Negroes".

Most people don't know the kind of things that took place in the Soviet Union. Frankly, Russia was lucky that Lenin died and Stalin killed Trotsky and took over. Trotsky is the archetypal Jew.

Stay capitalist? Russia went directly from feudalism to communism.

still poorer than the West

Eastern Europe = economic periphery

Anyway was actually the enforcement of serfdom in the late middle-ages that are responsible for the impoverishment of Eastern Europe. Communism just kept it at a shitty level

Trotsky was like the main jew of the last cycle. Guilty of making millions of men abandon their nationality, like the jews are doing again.

serfdom was abolished in Russia in 1861

>Frankly, Russia was lucky that Lenin died and Stalin killed Trotsky and took over.
this
Stalin was a fucking commie, but he still was the best of the worst.

They never really were, slavs don't know how to run an economy

>Anyway was actually the enforcement of serfdom in the late middle-ages that are responsible for the impoverishment of Eastern Europe
it was always poorer than the West

JEWS

What are these?

>Russia then it would actually be a decent country
I highly doubt that. I suspect the USSR was more influenced by Rashism than Communism, Russians have always lived in shit, only this time they purposefully dragged as many others to their level too.

FPBP

What if
Hear me out
Fascist slavs
Not the croatian-sucking-daddy-hitlers-dick kind of fascism tho

There would still be an absolute monarchy and it would be the only countries in Europe with one. Russia would still have a hold on Central Asian countries and hold more influence on Japan.

pretty much the same minus autistic commie fuck-ups. so a bit better.

Russia under the Tsar had a rapidly developing intellectual and cultural tradition.

St Petersburg and Moscow were two of the greatest cities in Europe.

If the White Movement had won then Russia today would be a completely different picture. The whole of Europe would be completely different.

Free, industrious, not jewed

The Russian Empire was still decades behind us even when we were sill a part of the Russian Empire, and even more so after the Red Revolution.
The space race was literally the only time in history when Russia actually surpassed others, and even that was possible only because the SU pooled everyting into it, leading the union into alteast a decade longer stangation period.
Maybe the Russian Empire wasn't as bad, but it was still fat from doing well in any way.

Whites might have won if they had given the Western states the independence they wanted and Bermond hadn't completely choked when he tried to take Riga

most important trade route in Europe

That is,
>Bermond hadn't completely choked trying to take Riga instead of actually going to help out the Whites

Jā, jā, typos. It is a Latvian thing here. If it makes enough sense to be comprehensive then leave it as it is.

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Russia was never 'capitalist' (whatever that means) until 1990.

Never an option,before WW2 entire EE with sole exeption of Czhechoslovakia was a shithole,corrupt to the core governments,fascists everywhere and deep national divide in every country

The upper class in the Soviet Union kind of was. They could live the high life and actually choose what they purchase.
>with sole exeption of Czhechoslovakia
Orly

We would take Konstantinipolis in 1918 and actually rebuild it.
Jerusalem would soon follow and be controlled by Orthodoxy.

By Russian tradition I can assume we would create jewish suburbs in Palestine under our direct control. Germans where fine with it - their germanic brothers would be too.

Christian nations would flock to Russia, because we would literally restore the Roman Empire (which heretics try to rename as "Byzantine").
Most of "Slavs" would turn Russian.

That would create pan-Christian super empire with center in Moscow.

Instead of corrupt democratic parliamentarian, world would employ soviets (counsils) to represent workers and keep the constitutional monarchies to keep democracy in check.
Everyone would also copy Russian court system and replace anglo-masonic precedential autism.

Germany would be cleaned of their connections to ottomans and never experience Weimar.
Probably would be divided into Pomerania, Prussia and The Others.

Technologically Tesla would return to Russia and we would employ computers and computational methods (all created by Russians, but employed by americans in this timeline).
Computers would be developed much earlier and this would make Russia the industrial leader of the world.
Wire communication would be a problem, but radio data exchange would be developed much earlier because Tesla would receive proper care and respect.
Most likely France would invent the internet and eventually outrun Russians in this field.

The only loser in that situation is Finland. Because they would not receive any resources from bolsheviks so commie agents could keep some secret funds abroad, like they are getting up till now. Other than this Finland is a frozen swamp with no resources and no trade routes. But finns would be welcomed all across the Russia and that would not be any problem. Sweden would first start marrying finns and then eventually join Vyborg governance to have Finn-like preferences in the Russian Empire.

>Tesla would receive proper care and respect
What makes you think that? Where is the guarantee that he would not be completely ignored and swept under the rug?

Those greek faggots were not roman you slav ape how can you be roman without rome?

Yes and was replaced with inefficient collectivisation.
Eastern European nobility got quite rich, this is why they could enforece it even more.

A lot fucking richer than they are now and without a Cold War that spent 50 years robbing the world of improvement.

trotsky is like freeza final form?

Yes. Prague had a GDP per capita comparable to Paris before communism. Can't find the fucking source but it's out there.

People like him where often friends of the Emperor and received direct attention and funding. Sometimes even their gambling debts where paid.

Of course he was only an engineer, so most likely that question would be dealt not by royals, but rather by "Russian Imperial Technical Society".

Considering the electrification boom in the early 20th century, inventor of a lightbulb would be valued greatly.
You can also remember Russian tradition to invite important people on weddings, where "wedding general" meme is coming from. The lightbulb man would be able to live a decade just by traveling from one mid class meshanin wedding to another and getting paid for presence.

He would probably start a fashion for Serbian language among Russian technical intelligence and Serbian cuisine would become wedding cuisine.
In that case attention of the emperor would be guaranteed. Because actual humanities stand way higher than any technic.

Gauls, Goths and Hunns from legions founded a village on your island where not Roman, Charlie. Greeks where not only the Romans, they where also cultural and civil predecessors of both Greek and Roman empires.

You have to invent shit about your puppet jews being the root of white civilization like you need to invent shit about them being the bad guys every time you shat your pantalones.

Greeks do not need to do that.

This shitole along with Estonia had a golden age too. But who cares, it's never going to happen again.

That golden age was fueled by Bolsheviks selling Russian heritage BTW. Literally bags of gold and gems, art and historic items of immeasurable value.

You brought everything what came later on yourself.

We had very little exchange with the Soviets post-ndependence, and what we had while still part of the Russian Empire was all ours too. What "selling of Russian heritage" are you even talking about?

>capitalism
fascism is the only way

it's funny how slavs just keep on taking foreign ideology even if in the past this has already failed


they are utterly retarded by design

Comparing Fascism with Capitalism is like comparing apples with a steering wheel. Capitalism a fiscal system first and foremost, while Fascism can range from Capitalist to Socialist, and cannot function without atleast some element of these.

FPBP as always.

>fascism is not the same as capitalism
capitalism is an economic system but it is also often accompanied by shit like democracy. liberalism and libertarianism.
In fascism however, you cannot have a fascist economy without a fascist social system thus making it a socio economical system.
>fascism is a range
Depends on the country. As far as I know, Eastern Europe had monarchy and theocracy supporting fascist parties(Iron Guard) and were usually more right wing.

Lmao what resources are we recieving from you?

based czechbro

Fucking retard.

Wow so if you would have been able to keep your independence, you too would be as rich as us today. Really makes you want to help the baltic states. Helsinki-Tallinna is already the fastest growing economic region in europe and this explains why.