Divorce Rates

Nobody would divorce from their partner unless they had a very good reason to do so. Why do people automatically assume that a high divorce rate is bad, when we know already that there are many loveless, abusive and destructive marriages out there?

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Once upon a time, marriage meant something more than "until times get tough".

Too much noise in daily life nowadays.

Because young people are separating over bullshit just because they aren't capable of dealing with the slightest set-back to their pitch-perfect plans of becoming someone special, someone rememberable, someone important.
Truth is people need to stop being sluts, find a partner they like and settle down with 2+ kids. Our society is built around the nuclear family and for a very good reason.

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Divorce defeats the purpose of marriage. Just saying. If divorce is 'ok', then there's no point in getting married to begin with. THOT's just use it to leap frog up to riches while sucking up alimony and helping attorneys put their kids through school.

>No one would divorce from their partner unless they had a very good reason to do so.
>being this bluepilled

Is pic related a trap?

>good reasons to divorce
With alimony laws the way they are, divorce is basically incentivized for all women. The slightest bit disappointed with the way things are going? Well there's absolutely NO reason not to take all his money and go find someone better.

This. People aren't taught to deal with difficulties in life situations or relationships, and aren't taught that not every difference of opinion or decision is an irreconcilable void.

Back when people had to worry about disease, famine, children being healthy or bad weather, spouses were naturally inclined to making amends and apologising to each other but also supporting one another in tough situations, but also people were more amiably oriented towards one another and individualism (snowflakeism) on today's scale was not as present.

emily rudd, not a trap

>Nobody would divorce from their partner unless they had a very good reason to do so
The "very good reason" is usually an opportunity for a woman to pretend she isn't a complete loser for marrying another loser.

They get a couple of years to imagine a better man will come along to take care of their 3 kids and increasingly saggy titts.

>All their loser friends rally around them, telling them how "brave" they are
>Get to pretend they're a "strong wymyn."
>Get to abuse the man by automatically having power over his kids (preference in custody, despite breaking the family up)

No, user, people divorce for very retarded reasons.

But she has an Adams apple >:(

It's foolish to say you have to get married with someone you don't argue with, but there isn't such a person on the entire globe, not for anyone.
You WILL argue with your partner and marriage is that unbreakable bound that pushes you to work on those issues rather than walk away, it's a contract about reciprocal improvement.

>Being this porn addled
You're better than this, Hans.

Do something difficult today.

Whatever you say fag. Going through one now because the cunt wants to “find herself” “never had a chance to be on her own”. I’m no slouch in bed, I pay all the bills and take care of the family financially, bitch is just another brainwashed twat.

Like what?

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And

Push yourself to the limit at the gym.

>t. Have been in there myself

>find a partner they like
Have fun with that. I'm 28, relatively good looking, have a job and I'm not able to find a woman that isn't at least one of the below

1) complete whore
2) ugly and/or unrealistic standards
3) golddigger and garbage human being

I'm currently dating a girl but I would never wife her since deep down I can't forgive her being a complete slut in her younger years.

>getting married in the west
It's almost like you want to go to jail for (((marital rape))) or (((domestic violence)))

>unless they had a very good reason to do so
You've never met a woman, have you? Have you heard of misandry, or hypergamy?

FPBP. Women watch the TV and yearn for "freedom". Men watch the TV, and ruin themselves with sports and porn.

I'm not paying money m8

Slut past is so gross

because my mum divorced my dad because he wanted to retire so she fucked some other guy and then got caught by that guys wife. I asked her why she didn't just leave my dad and she said she didn't want to break up the family. Well she did just that and left me to deal with stopping my dad from killing himself

Women are lazy and want to be taken care of and their parents think it's cute to have a little princess but they grow up to be spoiled and selfish and really difficult to be in a relationship with

I had a conversation with my great aunty who has been together with my great uncle since they were 20 (both 78 now) and she said that people don't try anymore these days, that they have a fight and just call it quits instead of staying together for their children and getting through things together as a couple.
She said that her and my great uncle didn't have a perfect run and that they had plenty o fights and obstacles but they got through it because they loved each other.

Right, a contract with no penalties is not a contract in any sense whatsoever.

There's not even "consideration" involved in marriage from the female's perspective.

This and stupid people getting married.

>Your life isn't worth $15 USD.

How you spend your money has psychological effects user.

I pay for two day shipping for business related orders even if there's no reason to do so, to remind me of the importance of what I'm doing.

Women expect too much and when they don't get they bail.

yeah I talked to my nan about it and she said women are don't bother trying anymore. it might not be what they want but they should stick it out and try and fix the marriage. I know she had a problem with my pop drinking too much but she worked on it and got him to cut down and eat right. she said she cooked him nice meals every night when she could even though she was a full time nurse helping try and to get deposits for housing for their kids in the 80's. I hugged her and told her I was glad women like her existed

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>Expect too much
That's not the main issue. It's that they expect it and don't reciprocate at all.

Pussy does not count as it is almost worthless by itself... you could get basically the same thing from a trap ffs.

>Being this threatened by the thought of making something of yourself

When you're still a NEET in ten years, remember this exchange.

>Nobody would divorce from their partner unless they had a very good reason to do so.
So you're saying we should repeal No-Fault Divorce laws?

The divorce rates shows that our society is changing. Your conclusion is that people are more willing to stand up for themselves now. It's certainly easier and less frowned upon to divorce now, than before the 60s. Ending a relationship now is sometimes as easy as blocking them on your social media accounts.

Personally I think the high divorce rates are inextricably linked to a loss of identity. There has been an attack on the authentic gender roles through feminism and other cultural marxist propaganda. People have become obsessed with their self image, obsessed with materialism and hedonism. We're more depressed now than ever before, even though people in the past had much harder living conditions, like 60 hours work weeks, child labour etc.

A lot of people have personality disorders, narcissism, borderline etc. Society should let the normal partner escape from that hell once they wake up to what's going on.

To be honest that wouldn't make a difference. We still have fault based divorce in the UK and people still get divorced for no good reason.

What is your evidence that people are separating over bullshit? Obviously that is the narrative you would want to spread but what are the facts?

God speed

Hang in there friend

>Nobody would divorce from their partner unless they had a very good reason to do so.
>unless they had a very good reason to do so.
Have you ever met a woman?

Compare these conditions to a time in which you lived in small communities of 150 people, where every person knew each other, and had the same cultural background as you. Everyone knew who was dating who, who was single, had the same moral code because they all shared the same religion. Breaking up with someone would not have been as easy. Sure, you may have had less options than now, but you also had less competition and there was much more social cohesion in the community. Nowadays, ironically, many people feel isolated and alone, even though they live in cities with millions of other people.

Also if you're a female and have kids with a guy and decide you want to leave him you get to keep the house and collect money from the poor fucker for the next 18 years or however many years are left until the youngest child reaches 18.
Then you can date as many scumbags as you want and even move them into the house if you want and society will still look at the mother as "strong", "independent" and "empowered" for ditching the children's father for a long list of losers an horrible choices.

Yo dat be cultural appropriation

How could she let herself go that bad? Having a wealthy husband affords her the luxury of having a gym membership or personal trainer of her choice while also not having to work 10 hour shifts and coming home too tired to workout. She can choose whatever diet plan she wants and go completely organic, gluten-free, vegetarian ect and not worry about cost.

Mabe he just likes his whamen thicc?

Im getting a divorce soon and trust me i have extremly good reasons. And i did try more then i should to save the relationship already

Dont always assume ppl are getting divorced because they are bored

because infidelity, unresolved mental illness, and substance abuse are rampant.

>Nobody would divorce from their partner
>unless they had a very good reason to do so
Some of those 'very good reasons' involve destroying a man's life to get his money. Some of the very good reasons are degrading men to financial objects, and some women are willing to use a man's own children as weapons to get what they want.
I've seen horrors, user. I've seen the shit women do when they're the ones who are bigger and stronger.
>divorce is good because women can do no wrong
It's like there's a whole mass movement built around proving what a bad idea it is to trust women with power, and you don't even know you're doing it.

I know a girl since she's 14, she turned out to be kinda neet as she almost doesn't get out of the house and can't find a job, but at least she's not a slut.
I'm sure I can manage to turn her into a proper woman, she's just 19 now.

You really think its not a bad thing? A woman can divorce you, take all your shit and falsly accuse you of abuse getting you thrown in jail.
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So do all women you high school dropout. Just not a prominent one

>Nobody would divorce from their partner unless they had a very good reason to do so.

Getting half the shit someone else worked for is a pretty compelling motive if you ask me. Then again I'm sure all the women you've met in your life are angels.

Men become richer after divorce
theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/jan/25/divorce-women-research

The gold-digging wife myth
theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/08/myths-divorce-gold-digging-wives-media-stereotype

Why do we still believe that divorce leaves men worse off than women?
newstatesman.com/economics/2014/09/why-do-we-still-believe-divorce-leaves-men-worse-women

Clearly you should break up with her immediately. You are wasting both her time and your own, if you know you won't wife her.

t. Been there, done that, wasted years of precious youth.

This is so retarded. All liberals & socialist scream we have to get along with subhumans and rapists, but they hate the most simple and basic social interaction that exists: marriage. The only reason we have anything of a culture or stability is because of this. If you want polygamy or non-marriages you can go to Africa & the Middle East and try to net get beheaded at the first month.

how old are you guys, so desperate trying to find a woman in an anime imageboard

Pierce must have a heart of gold. How could you do that to your family?

People can't and won't compromise anymore. That's the crux of it. Along with the destruction of the traditional division of the sexes and general consumable nature of modern culture where nothing lasts, obvously.

he is a feeder

My Ex wife bent me over for everything she could have. Cordell and Cordell is in my building and I've seen many men on the elevators down crying and pissed off because the settlements are outrageous.

And what about what you don't see?

Did you just reference the fucking Guardian? I know the men who got fucked in divorce. Its real.

No. You don't like his drinking or you think she is lazy and won't improve herself, or he is "mean"

These are not valid and you are weak. Nothing short of infidelity allowed.

Men are entitled to feel like they got fucked. The question is whether women are actually made better off by divorce in a financial sense.

Only an absolute fucking moron would get married in the current year.

Considering most marriages occur while men are blue pilled, it’s amazing the divorce rate isn’t 100%.

I would just say that woman should have never been given the right to vote in the first place. Its not like they earned it.

What could they have done, which they were allowed to do, that would have earned them the vote?

>shilling your self-help cult
They offering a discount for every schlub you refer?

Liberalism is selfish. There is no blood and country. It's "what can you do for me?"....so when times get tough. It's a selfish response.

We need a good fucking war. One good war and the maggots who leach off this country run back to their own countries because they don't want to die for this one.

The thing is people convince themselves they dont love each other very easily because it's now the much easier option than actually working through your marital problems together.

the vote has historically been tied to the draft and taxation, It has to do with balancing rights with responsibilities. Most women vote for emotional thinking - leftist policies that inevitably lead to welfare, immigration, and eventually societal collapse. It is a cycle repeating itself. Most men shouldn't vote either btw.

true

>nobody would divorce from their partner unless they had a very good reason to do so.
Like half the guy's money

people these days treat relationships like a glass slipper that is supposed to fit perfectly without any work

as soon as a sexier guy comes along, and he's new so she's never had a fight with him or disagreed with him, women these days just abandon ship on their relationship for that shot in the dark

That's why I can't get married. We live in the days where serial monogamy is considered the highest level of realistic innocence. That is disgusting.

Leave, forge their own nation, build society - you know sacrifice? Losing your man to war and raising the kids is not sacrifice because they didn't control the outcome from the beginning.

Nobody should be allowed to vote

I think women only love men for about 3-4 years. After that they have some sort of affection for them but it's not the same thing

A lot of women marry men they never loved in the first place as well

There is no such thing as a good reason to break a promise to God.

you are missing the point. why should a single mother on welfare have as much say as a net taxpayer who is a veteran off two wars. it is bullshit to say that they have equally contributed to society.

Philia.

>Why do people automatically assume that a high divorce rate is bad, when we know already that there are many loveless, abusive and destructive marriages out there?

its bad because generally when a marriage breaks down a family breaks down. Single parent kids are more likely to be miserable failures than their peers with coherent healthy families

How were women supposed to get themselves drafted and taxed if they didn't have any political power?

Nobody should have anything to say, neither coalburners, nor taxfags or bootlickers.

He’s shitposting and wasting money because he finally makes 12/hr and doesn’t know what to do with his “savings”

There's a correlation between divorce and bad outcomes for children but it doesn't prove causation. If children were in a household with a failing marriage which nevertheless simply could not be severed, things might have turned out worse.
I'm really looking for a more conclusive case.

>unless they had a very good reason to do so.
Because money and perceived freedom without consequences doesn't appear to be a good reason?

JUST

My god you are autistic. Women are on average "#notall " less intelligent and contribute less to a civilization than men do. that is not to say that a woman cant do these things, but most cant. rights are not bestowed they are tied to responsibility, if not they are just privileges or license

But I think women become poorer after a divorce. That is they have less disposable income. If women were really as greedy as you say they would want stay married but not have any children.

Sage but the number one reported reason is 'dissatisfaction.'

Real trouble lies in unjust marriage law. There would be a huge curb to gold diggers and single mothers if the law was justified. Otherwise I don't give a flying fuck about the divorce rate.

Of course a woman’s not better off, don’t be stupid.
If dumb bitch Debby (who doesn’t work) divorces work hard William ( who makes 90k/yr) in a year, she’s going to be worse off. He’ll get 90k and she’ll have spent 90k and still won’t have a job. Women fuck themselves over constantly and end up homeless or with some they hate just so they never have to work. Debby’s gonna be a broke bitch because she won’t get off her fat ass and work and William can be a millionaire in ten years with promotions and bonuses.

Its almost like actions have consequences when you initiate 70% of divorce

>complains that women weren't drafted or taxed, so they didn't earn the vote
>doesn't realise that women had no ability to change this without the vote
Genius

I have only those. You also missing the 4) category, which is
4) Pumping up the university degrees, travel experience and her body to such high degree that only rich/famous people are allowed to speak to me.

And then you see them whoring out to any C-lister with money who has five minutes in the spotlight.

>doesn't understand republican government.
>thinks women should be granted vote not tied draft or taxation
Dumb ass