The only political groups available on my university campus are Greens (Democratic Socialists), Liberal(Soft Conservatives), Labor(Essentially American Democrats) and the Socialist Alternative(Communists, breeding grounds for Antifa).
I am considering creating an alternative political group that puts itself in opposition to the numerous progressives and communists on my campus. What should it be called? How should I go about this?
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Go green, they are just as shitty as the rest but the cause it's more noble.
Infiltrate the Liberals and start dropping some low grade red pills and see how it goes, don't do it on your own, you will need 5-10 others who think like you. Subversion of existing structures is always preferable to creating your own political group, it takes less time and is more efficient.
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>that woman shamelessly looking directly at his crotch
I have about 3 friends who are with me on this but I could probably get more. Do you really think we'd stand a chance at subversion?
what the hell is that thing
Don't, you'll get yourself painted as a target.
a big boi
I don't want to support the greens, they have a lot of socialists and communists in their ranks and they dont really give that many shits about the environment in Australia anymore, they've simply become a progressive mouth piece
Yoe also need a political philosophy from which you can argue your points and counter theirs. The most important point these others have, their axiom, is the equality narrative. So the first thing you have to do is deconstuct this idea of (radical) equality. One point would be that (radical) equality always leads to nihilism, because if everything is equal, if everything has the same value, then what's the point in trying to become sth great, if everything is of equal value in the first place. Read Nietzsche's take on Master/Slave-morality for example, read what Hoppe says about democracy,... .
Go green. Dem socs are despised by both the far right and left. They will fuck over the economy and bring economic collapse, causing people to because desperate for change and become radical, usually right wing.
what university do u go 2
I already have a strong political philosophy and I'm well read so I don't think Ill find it hard to introduce ideas to the people inside the group. The issues is that the liberals in Australia are pretty cucked, they're not too dissimilar to the Labor party, so I'm not sure how to approach the subversion, I'm not sure if the sentiments of the party follow through to the political groups on campus.
That's the enemies tactics: Recent writers, in the post-modern and post-structuralist traditions (including, particularly, feminist writers) have prescribed a very broad form of subversion. It is not, directly, the parliamentary government which should be subverted in their view, but the dominant cultural forces, such as patriarchy, individualism, and scientism. This broadening of the target of subversion owes much to the ideas of Antonio Gramsci, who stressed that communist revolution required the erosion of the particular form of 'cultural hegemony' within society.
Google Gramsci, find arguments to defend patriarchy, individualism and science.
Use humuor to ridicule your enemies (watch and use SJW Fails compilation videos fro Youtube for example). Fid points where people of one Political movement have different opions from one another and use it to divide and conquer (Gender queer feminists and their love for Trans-people and TERF's - Trans exclusionary feminists for example).
As I said, you have to subvert the cultural hegemony (All parties have basically the same viewpoints nowadays when it comes to culture, which leads to the existence of this kind of cultural hegemony/Zeitgeist and the (radical) equality axiom builds the foundation of their beliefs, so find a way to question it and ridicule it).
You can make them angry.
>what the hell user, this cant be real!
>oh it is fellow liberal, let me tell you who is to blame
You can also try becoming very popular, getting powerful positions and use them to favor your likeminded friends so that they too can exert influence.
If you can, then use intimidation as well. I would guess most of the people in this organization is mostly there for fun, not conflict.
If there are alot of likeminded people already in the organization you could potentially push out the ones you don't like, or fraction off into a new organization, saving time and energy on recruiting and building structure. Besides, you would then be coming from a legit organization already and nothing defines us and them like conflict, giving your group stronger cohesion. Mao used that tactic to his advantage very often.
What's alson quite effective is the use of identity politics against the left. For example find a based gay or black or Abo guy or a woman, that argues on your behalve. The Moderates in Sweden are doing exactly that with an Iranian immigrant at the moment, they are now against migration.
I think organisations usually have to be approved by the (((student union))) so anything too alternative will simply not be allowed to exist
Give it a try mate. If it fails you can form a conservative movement afterwards
Yeah, it does have to be approved by the student union, which is why I either have to join an existing political group or form a crypto-fascist group. Its either that or start a secret society.
Interesting, I will look more into this. I already know quite a bit about post-structuralism, post-modernism and communism however you're the first person to mention Antonio Gramsci to me.
It's interesting, I've watched a political debate in the EU parliament (Viktor Orban was there and everyone attacked him because of the refugee situation) a couple of months ago and a woman got up and said she hoped Hungary would in future become more 'liberal and open' like Gramsci imagined it. Gramsci was a politician/mass murderer during the marxist revolution in Hungary after WW1 and nobody called her out on that in the EUSSR parliament. Gramsci is extremly important when it comes to the culture wars and always remember: everything else (economics,...) is downstream from culture.
Another important book (more from a psychological perspective) is the 'Anti-Oedipus' by Deleuze, in which he equates patriarchy with capitalism and fascism, that book was very influential during the culture wars of the 60s.
Holy shit I actually just realized who you are talking about, I have heard of Gramsci before, my girlfriends grand parents escaped communist Hungary, and I got into a long conversation with her grandfather about it, he mentioned Gramsci to me but I'd forgotten the his name.
I'm reading more about him right now.
Also this reminds me of when corbyn and others were "honoring" Castro when he died. So many people let it slide.
Also the Frankfurt school/critical theory and especially the perverted Horkheimer, Adorno on the other hand is not that important/dangerous.
[University] Union of Fasicists
I have read anti-oedipus before. My mother (who is now very critical of feminist) was a feminist during the 60s though to the 90s so I grew up with many books like that on the shelf.
I have to have the group approved by the (((student union))), so it has to be crypto-fascist in nature or not centered around fascism.
I actually like much of Adorno, with exception of the "f scale"
>Socialist Alternative(Communists, breeding grounds for Antifa).
You don't have communists. You have social democrats. No university in the west would allow actual communist ideas be circulated.
Wasn't Horkheimer one of the marxists in germany who advocated for pedophilia? and sexual play with children?
I've attended Socialists alternative meetings and groups many times (I was a socialist when I was younger). These groups and communist through and through, it was not uncommon for me to hear them talk about using violence against their political enemies, and many of the people in the socialist alternative were part of the international socialists ((whose meetings I also attended) who were communist terrorists.
You've got no idea what you're talking about.
are* not and
Well he's basically the father of neo-marxism and therefore identity politics. He tried to remove the economical determinism ('class is everything') from marxism. You can't fully understand Poststructuralism (Focault) and decostructivism (Derrida) without Gramsci.
Read this: stream.org
>Union of Crypto-Fasicists
The name might be difficult. Try passing it off as an "alternative" "open" or "independent" political group. I would try to find some students that are of your persuasion (secret vanguard of the group that has sway and control) and admit others who are lukewarm. Thats my best anonymous advice
I believe that benoist advocates a right wing version of Gramscian ideas
He's actually quite enyoable to read, his biggest strength was when he wrote as a music critic, as I said he's not that dangerous.
I didnt mean the name would be union of crypto fascists hahaha, I just meant that if it were to be fascist it would need to be kept under wraps. I do not have many friends who are of my persuasion but I supposed I could work on finding the others on campus. The group has to be vetted by the student union so I supposed it could be something like "the free speech society" but even that is controversial on campuses so I'm not sure what other names to use.
> I supposed it could be something like "the free speech society" but even that is controversial on campuses so I'm not sure what other names to use.
That is frightening.
>Horkheimer
Sorry no, that was Wilhelm (((Reich))), a sex researcher/psychologist/freudo-marxist. He also belonged to the Frankfurt School.
I stand corrected, I always mix the names and ideas up. I read a book a few years ago about marxist kindergartens in Germany that integrated those ideas into it as recently as the 60s, it was very disturbing to say the least. There were first hand accounts from children who had attended these establishments too which made me feel physically ill.
As I said, your main enemy is the (radical) equality narrative/axiom. The opposite of equality in a political/philosophical sense is not inequality, but LIBERTY: So I would suggest you call it Liberty League (it's alliterative) or sth like that. But still, it would be easier to subvert the Liberals with a couple of friends and drop some low grade red pills to see how it goes.
Yep, campuses in Melbourne and Sydney have even had anti-free speech protests. Free speech is seen by many progressive groups here as something that only Nazis advocate for. I wouldnt even consider myself a nazi or a fascist, I'm more just in opposition to the Marxists and Communists, and I'm pro-capitalism. I generally land on the right-libertarian quarter when I take political compass tests.
One of the people who worked in such a kindergarten was Daniel (((Cohn-Bendit))) a marxist student rvolutionary of tghe 60s and influential EU politician, he assaulted kids in there and wrote a book about it, there wasn't a lot of outrage about him in Germany/France.
Use the name "social-conservatives" as a cover
Go full on 1488
>Liberty League
Thats a good idea, I was already considering having it just be a liberty minded group, because I'm not a nazi or a fascist, I'm just staunchly in opposition to the communists. Libertarian-right views may be considered fringe though, and the communists on campus and in the student union have the influence to shut down anything they dont like so its a very difficult situation.
That stuff went on especially during the 70s/mid 80s, sometimes up until the early 90s.
Yes he was mentioned in the book I read. I can't understand how there isn't more outrage about it, even to this day. Many people who worked in these places are still alive and kicking and it disturbs me. Marxists are truly disgusting.
That might work, but it's likely to be controversial because its a not so subtle synonym of national socialism.
Don't they have to give you a reason why they shut it down, you should talk with a lawyer about that because it runs against freedom of assembly and freedom of expression and I can't see how they could use their Hate-speech pseudo laws to shut down a right-libertarian group. I think you have a case there mate if they are trying that shut it down spiel with you. Oh, and always secretly record them, look at that Lindsay Shepard thing in Canada and how it backfired for the 'progressives'.
Ill have to wait until I'm back on campus to do anything, which is only about three weeks away. They may claim it goes against the Student unions and universities policies to have such a group. Our freedom of assembly and expression is not guaranteed on campuses and now that we have hate speech laws there is legal precedent that trumps our rights to expression anyway
>outjew the jewish minions for their own sake.
It's pretty romantic if you think about it.
Would be just another opportunity to attack them. Freedom of opinion and expression (Art.19) is a human right under the The Universal Declaration of Human Rights from 1948. That means if they shut you down, they are against human rights.
Not a bad idea norway bro, Ill have a go at this. Ultimately I'd want many of the people in my group on the student union, my fear is the communists on campus and in the union have too much influence, I want to counteract that, especially in the case of the socialist alternative. If I was head of the student union I could have a go at getting them shut down, especially if I could get the support from the others in the union and faculty but the likely hood of doing that seems slim as many of the faculty are socialists, especially in the humanities and liberal arts.
I'm unironically thinking of starting a secret society to try and counter act this influence because its becoming apparent that just a new group inside the union will not be enough.
here are some ideas
>National Socialist Worker's platform
>1488 Memorandum
>Libs Commies and Fags not Welcome here Safespace
>Movement to Restart the Chambers
>Hitler did Nothing Wrong Forum
>Anticomintern Pact
>Aryan Accord
>"Step on the Gas" Race Fan'club
Our governments interpretation of freedom of expression is that it only extends to speech that is not considered hate speech. I could use it to attack them yes, but we still have no guarantee that the group could survive because those freedoms aren't extended to our campuses
all of those would be shoad in a heartbeat
obviously
Thank you. I want to say that our boi in Germany knows his stuff. If you're able to articulate and time that shit then this kills the marxist.
I would also like to tell you that I will be leaving a prestigious Dutch university because of the blatant indoctrination. I can't even get my family to understand, except for my father that is. Feels bad.
You're probably making the right decisions user, if all they're doing is indoctrinating you then there is nothing of worth to learn from them. What were you studying, is there somewhere else worth while you could study?
Don't wanna be called a shill but I don't think it's worth it trying to be far right in Australian universities. 98% of students will dislike you from getgo and staff will make things hard for you. Uni politics has always been left wing, just like army politics is always rightwing.
My goal isnt really a far right group, its opposition to the communist influence on campus.
Security Studies. After my cousin was almost hit by a peaceful truck I thought I should.
There are similar studies in England, but I can't study there because the government won't fund my studies anymore (left a uni in russia because of corruption) and I literally had to spend my savings from my military service in order to fund my first semester.
Which is why I have decided to dedicate myself to politics at home and fix this.
You might be able to do an exchange program and go to england? I'm lined up to go to england for a year as part of my politics philosophy and economics double bachelor.
Maybe that will at least let you escape the indoctrination of your current school for a while. I hope getting into politics goes well for you, I'm also just getting into politics (running for a local council position this year).