Prove that IQ is determined by genetics and not by social, economic and cultural factors

Prove that IQ is determined by genetics and not by social, economic and cultural factors.
Pro-tip: you can't.

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The higher your races IQ is the more likely they are to be economically successful you fucking shitskin idiot

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It's likely a combination but genetics determine what your maximum possible IQ will be. If you grow up surrounded by dumbfucks, yah probably not gonna have a high IQ. If you grow up malnourished and without access to educational resources, still likely to be a dumbass. If you grow up in a culture that doesn't value education, then again, likely to be a dumbass. But, even if you were born and lived starving, surrounded by dumbfucks, and never encouraged to learn, your genetic predisposition still determines how smart you can be.

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Actually social, economic, and cultural factors are determined by genetics.
Thus the race differences correlating with poverty country to country.

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>hurr durrrr smaht pipo build towns n shiiieeett
>dumb pipo live on da Serengeti
yea man all those high iq giraffe hunters an shiieet

3 asians in my grad class 100+ people one of them had the highest gpa

I present to you Africa, African immigrants destroying their host nations and African Americans.

Time to expand this conversation to include the biopsychosocial perspective. IQ can not be attributed purely to biology - what asinine assumption.

When dumb fuck meets another dumb fuck and the dumb fuck decides to put his dick into a dumb fuck and they make another dumb fuck and this dumb fuck meets another dumb fuck and they make another dumb fuck and all these dumb fucks are making more dumb fucks while they were dumb fucks and dumb fucks making even more dumb fuck but now these dumb fucks are dumb fucks and deformed dumb fucks because dumb fucks fucked their dumb fuck and their dumb fuck and do I need to continue or are you a dumb fuck

IQ is purely based off of genetics.

Asians are smarter than mice. The difference in their DNA is the key difference.

You can raise the asian and the mouse in the exact same social, economic and cultural area/situation and the asian will outperform the mouse in IQ tests.

So checkmate faggot

IQ is basically the one thing that is at least pre determined with genetics. See evolution of race

youtube.com/channel/UC2w1CQqPli4w94-PCg2UvJQ

Now go forth and be educated. Read the source lists he gives ecetera.

This fact is self-evident. Look at a black person from anywhere in the world, and compare them to any White or asian anywhere in the world. Seriously bro it’s like asking for proof that the sky is blue. Niggers are just less intelligent than literally everyone else

You can't prove that it's not. At best you can say "Well, we don't really know."
So does it make sense to import millions of third world migrants if we don't even know that they can adapt to Western life?

OP just wants to confirm personal racial biases but his argument is weak. Wears the data? Evioultionarily speaking what plays a bigger roll than environment in the way species evolve? biopsychosocial model is a good place to start.

>falseflag post using Nazi flag
How many times do I have to remind you retarded shills you have to change your flags between threads?

>Blacks have smaller brains
>That's why they're underachievers
>No I'm not aware of how much better off blacks were before the Civil Rights Act

>Asians are smart due to genetics
>No Asians weren't literally animals leading up to 1945

Africa was objectively a better colonized place than Asia before 1945 has got nothing to do with genetics 100% cultural.

if all this data is run by corporations.
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corrupt investors
corrupt leaders
continuous kick backs
media backed
absolute bullshit(((polling)))
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when will you stop posting asian qts.. and actually remove the kikes. its happend 300 times in history.. can we just nuke them once and for all?

Even the dumbest trailer trash white niggas are smarter than blacks living in the suburbs. Like, let's be real here Mr. OP. The dumbest people in the world are dark/black. Like, c'mon now.

>Protip = "I won't hear you"

Post a pic of your dick with timestamp

If you actually respond I'll discuss. But since my post never get any responses I'm just linking you to Alt-Hype's channel. The 80% video shows that certain things like IQ have a trend towards about 80% heritability . This percentage is based upon many things including quantative genetics.

If you want to discuss the shit that's fine. But I'm not typing a ton of shit for someone if they don't actually give a shit.

>fuck off shlomo.

Sounds like a cop-out

China
Taiwan
Hong Kong
Korea
Japan

Different societal, economic and (somewhat) cultural factors.

Fear God and Sage Threads

Why is Sierra Leone so Big Brained?

I'm interested

Lets get to the important part of this thread.

Whats the sauce on OPs pic?

iq is a cup and water situation.

niggers are a shot glass.

You know that's not accurate. Someone with an IQ of 80 that is white is not smarter than a black of IQ of 140 simply because of their race.

Are there far more intelligent whites than blacks on average? Of course.

Will the dumb white have psychological and cultural trends that are closer to the intelligent whites than an intelligent black?

Of course, clearly intelligence is not everything and poor people can be smart.

However, you don't paint it as though all blacks are dumb. This isn't the case. We can still go are seperate ways even if this is the case though (a.k.a. blue birds will still fly with the blue birds ect.)

IQ tests your abilityto solve a particular type of logic puzzles. It's something you can train. I get the intention of wanting to measure the intelligence people are born with, but IQ tests are just a bad system for it.

Doesn't really matter.
High IQ doesn't equate to superiority.
In fact, those with higher IQs than the mean tend to be less adept at survival and less capable of surviving serious fucking shit, which is why most people with IQs above 130 tend to be dependent on urban living and socialist policies. They think too much, too preoccupied with things to get down to the meat of the issue of life.
High IQ also correlates to higher disposition to chronic psychosis.
Optimal range is 100-120.

thanks for your picture

You may want to read Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell.

take off my flag you nigger

Twin studies.jpg

>(((you can’t)))

>giving this 1 post OP bait thread bumps

Please stop.
I was quite happy to let it slide off the board when I first spotted it on page 6.

a race doesn't have an IQ. Individual iq's are pooled together and a median is calculated? The whole argument is full of holes.
Still doesn't prove anything, good god hong kong is the top yet it's such a shit hole, people defecating in the streets toxic air, bodies and people getting killed in the street like a leave blowing in the wind.
I guess high IQ doesn't create utopian trad lands of integrity and human virtue.
I don't think there is a limit to human comprehension, if taught slow enough or at their pace with the learner while maintaining interest and attention a human being can learn basic addition all the way to advanced rocket science.
still not seeing anything, what does it mean? that black people are stupid, I don't just buy stuff so easily, anyone ever question the sanctity of these IQ tests anyways? you people parade the around like god but are probably highly flawed and a terrible metric for measuring anything.
wat?
perhaps because they have less incentive to hone their grey matter? different culture strive to achieve different things.

None of that is true. You are ashamed of your low IQ.

Chinks are always smarter and have lore potential than niggers ever have or will.
/thread with that one inconvenient truth.

can you prove it though?

either someone posts the sauce for OPs pic or it hits the bump limit, no other way its possible

It is impossible to quantify intelligence levels in targeted populations without considering; genetic, biochemical,psychological mood personality behavior and social factors (cultural, familial, socioeconomic, medical, as well).

Give up the argument is baseless without considering all contributing factors populace IQ.

There are studies showing that IQ is largely determined by the mothers, by not just brain size and her IQ but the bacteria in her intestines which is transfered to the child. These bacteria have a massive effect on brain development due to the role they play in nutrition, and the levels the child is born with are the average levels it will grow up with, so if it is deficient at birth, it is likely to be so in adulthood, hence children of fat mother have a difficult time losing weight.
Just Google IQ gut bacteria and the studies come up. This explains how daaging drinking alcohol is in pregnancy, as alcohol effectively bleeches gut bacteria. Primarily though, genetics is key and frontal lobe brain size.

Again you are only addressing biology to substantiate your naive views while denying all other factors

A review of intelligence GWAS hits: Their relationship to country IQ and the issue of spatial autocorrelation
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No. I myself have a high IQ, and it causes problems. I get preoccupied a lot with stupid shit and lose focus on what's really important in life.
Having too much intelligence isn't always a good thing. Every boon has a cost.

People here tout IQ too much, and ignore the traits that bring true strength. Vigilance and self control are the true gods in a man's heart. Worship them more than you would Jesus fucking Christ.

BTW, I cannot begin to tell you how many people of high intelligence I've met that have been worthless as tits on a boar. Ask em to do practical shit(home repairs, self defense tasks, mechanics, improvising solutions to basic problems on the fly) and they get stupefied under overthinking solutions.

>no genetics
>dont exist

MFW

twin studiees you eediot

sage

Wtf is your pic related have anything to do with IQ?

So because we don't have all of the exact details on how something works we throw our hands up in the air and say we can't conclude anything?

I guess we're shit out of luck with the Theory of Gravity and Evolution then....
How can we diagonse the correct illness... Why do we even fucking have doctor's? Why the hell are we studying the body and making all these damn assumptions that work a majority of the time until they are proven incorrect and once they are proven incorrect we then have to reevaluate the theory. How do we know what the earth looks like we haven't fucking seen it.
Fuck the twin studies, fuck quantitive genetics.

We're going back Marty.

Actually not even that

everyone trying to find the sauce is smart and everyone else is dumb and has fallen for low quality bait

it's hard enough on individuals, and they think they can blanket an entire population because of a couple correlations on paper. I get why you're doing this, your acting off your instinct inductively observing black people are and other minorities are ruining regions and I partially agree you saw and easy out to legitimize your instinct throw stats at it and wash your hands, problem is it makes you look really gullible. use other route. My thought is instead of prejudicially keeping people out who abuse social mechanism, remove mechanism so no one can abuse (welfare etc), nature will take care of itself.

*earth's core.

plus your current genetics is literally influenced by all 3 of these things competing over millions of years

>cultural factors
>niggs take pride in their culture
>their culture is to be retarded
>not toleratint their culture is racist
>IQ stays at 60 for centuries.
>trying to change that is racist and oppressive.
Checkmate dindus.

It seems like it

of course its kurwa based on genetics, genetics is everything.

mouse economics

i giggle at that

you have a point though

exactly

their culture is to be
>brave strong man
int. has little to do with it, sometimes I admire nig nog cultures for that too, asians to be
>cerebral grounded fountains of wisom
why they spend most of their time in their head with meditation budism. And whites are
>creators, always wanting to improve on something and end up making scientific breakthroughs.

I'm sorry what are you trying to say here?

And what particularly does this have to do with the effect of environment instead of genetics on IQ?

I want you to explain so I can appropriately respond instead of guessing your argument here.

if your so smart and know where all the good environments are why dont you tell where i can find an aesthetic environment where i can improve my iq.

Pro-tip: you can't.

1-if its difficult quantifying and individuals genuine intelligence (I think the modern western IQ test is flawed) how can one possibly capture the accurate intelligence of tens of thousands at once.
2-Understandying the reason for propping up such a flawed argument for so long, you want to try and convincemothers to further your social and political ideas's problem is if you try to sell it someone with a few more brain cells then the generic sheep, you don't look good and fanatical attachment to said argument, double doesn't look good.
3-Remove mechanisms ppl can abuse, welfare, affirmative action, let nogs come her and starve if. things will fix themselves.

The trajectory of evolution is determined be environment this is well established broadly accepted understanding thus environment governs evolution-evolution governs the rise and fall of intelligence levels in the overall populace.

Envrionment is key factor but their many many sub factors. Which is why I keep referring you dumbfucks to the biopsychosocial model to no fucking avail

all 3 of these things are about people interacting

plus if a smart person living among niggers makes them dumb

then a nigger living among smart people makes them dumber

this is literally an argument to keep niggers away from me because they could lower my iq

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1.How do you think the Western IQ test is flawed?

From my understanding we have defined intelligence in a certain way (problem solving) and we take a sample size of a population. (That's how the world works we define a term and go from there. So we understand what they mean when they call a spade a spade and understand that is what they are referring to.)After these multiple samples we create a distribution of these sample sizes. So on average how many people scored 120, 100, 80, 60 ecetera. We can then apply this to larger scale populations because the assumption is the distribution will remain constant. (I'm a little fuzzy on the whole statistics thing but that's my understanding of it. If you are genuinely interested in this I really recommend you check out the Alt-Hype's channel. He can give you specifics and even research papers to read. And if you want to learn about this topic I would implore you to look into some of his videos.)

2. For the second one are you just saying that, people have just become invested in the idea that different peoples are more intelligent and use it only to back there political agendas? So I believe the implication you are making is that it is not because they believe it's accurate it just fits their world view?

3. Here I believe you are saying to remove safety nets and that will fix everything? And that we should let immigrants come in?

You sound libertarian? (Is my assumption correct. I think I can understand your view point if that is the case.)

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Wherever Europeans, East Asians, and Ashkenazi Jews go they thrive relative to every other population.

This is so stunningly disproportionate, particularly with Ashkenazi Jews that any other factor seems to be dwarfed by genetics--and the line between nature nurture (genetics and culture) is blurry.

Minnesota Multiracial Adoption Study.

AKA Niggers raised in white middle class families still have substandard IQs.

You can take the nigger out of the jungle, but it's still a nigger.

C U T E

In public schools not everyone learns at the same pace. There are people called retards. You being one of them. Meme flagging as your opposition as if you're smart and clever. Genes do factor in intelligence, faggot. Just like depression is dependent on 60% genetics and 40% personal choices. Now stop shitting up this board, leftypol. Sage

I don't think It's accurate, I think there are so many factors and variations or intelligence, memory, induction, creativity, problem solving speed ect x100000. that a meassly timed test can give you the true answer pfff a possible ball park maybe but i'd give it a 30/70 efficacy of accuracy. Sample size, doesn't accounts for the full pool though does it.
>because the assumption is the distribution will remain constant
a lot of faith.
>For the second one are you just saying that, people have just become invested in the idea that different peoples are more intelligent and use it only to back there political agendas? So I believe the implication you are making is that it is not because they believe it's accurate it just fits their world view?
I think people found data that if they superseded their full cognitive abilities a bit could buy it, and pass it on to others as if they do buy it, to put more legitimate weight behind their endeavor (a reasonable one, i've seen my home town turn to shit because of mexicans) i don't believe you buy it, lot of indicators you people are kinda smart.
>2. For the second one are you just saying that, people have just become invested in the idea that different peoples are more intelligent and use it only to back there political agendas? So I believe the implication you are making is that it is not because they believe it's accurate it just fits their world view?
yes cause if there are no safety nets they loose their free lunch no special treatment and what i wanted elaborate but forgot was, restoring a constitutional minimal gov where you can kill and nig nog for trying to rob you and its no big deal, big gov interference hasn't made it a level playing field, with a level field I think whites will win the game again. Libertarian, yeeeeaahhhh? i just gate our government getting involved in everything,

(I'm about to go to sleep because I have to get up in the morning. I would like to continue the conversation but this will be my last post.)

I fail to see your point here. Based on an IQ (an official one) I've taken I can tell you that some of the categories are Verbal Comprenshion, Working Memory, Perceptual Organization, and Processing Speed. That would seemingly take into account quite a few of these things you are referring to. The point is that no it's not perfect but it does fairly accurate grasp of one's mental abilities in a variety of areas. And you have to understand that the speed at which one is able to think also would factor in as intelligence (although I think they may be beginning to remove the time limit in certain areas of the exam.)
IQ of the individual and certain outcomes also have a correlation (I believe one of these is income). But you always have to view this in terms of trends as there will always be outliers. In other words you may know someone that doesn't fit into this (say smart people have a higher income) but that doesn't make the trend non-existant. The point with statistics is they are supposed to show a general trend. I would say this doesn't take faith as you put it. Instead just compare multiple experiments and if all have the same trends for a certain population, I would think it's safe to say the trend is accurate.

2. So you are saying we shouldn't actually believe the data we are being given? The problem you are getting into is when do you selectively decide to believe and or disbelieve the data given to you?

If you throw it all out, we can now only operate from anecdotal experience or thought experiments (a.k.a philosophizing.) Clearly people can skew data in any which way, this is why it is extremely important to read the paper and learn how the data was gathered and analyzed. Don't just eat it up. It's also why it's important to be open to what other research might indicate.

unz.com/jman/jaymans-race-inheritance-and-iq-f-a-q-f-r-b/

Lastly. I would say, I don't see a reason to allow immigration into your country of people highly different from your own.

As we can see across history and in the modern day. People generally operate in collectives based on ethnicity and conflict arises from these differences.

Different types of cultures (ethnicities) create different types of government. Letting different peoples into your country only atomizes it and for what? Different foods, languages, and cultures. How is that beneficial for your country. For me I see it only as creating needless domestic conflict. Different peoples vying for power against others. Why not instead have a government that is for your people and supports policies for them. Instead of one that always has to worry about the appealing to people not of your ethnicity and race and the different problems they bring to the country.

Whether or not people like it ingroup preference is very really and it seems that the atomized people will only be replaced by people with a strong unity. I would say a strong homogenous nation helps create a stable unified country. Sweden was once a very good example of this.

I've never heard a solid argument for mulitculturalism.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=w3y2SDpIEhE

This guy explains it pretty good.^

First of all, iq various by social factors yes. But a lot of it is genetic. The brain fat is around 60% if your brain and is crucial to the brains ability to perform, and guess what your brain fat is genetic.

What you are proposing is basically humans evolved in different environments for several years and there are no differences in intelligence.

Slide thread, saged