Do I get in trouble with Canadian customs if I import this?

Do I get in trouble with Canadian customs if I import this?

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pretty much, at best you get called to you local police station to give some explaination about that Piece of cloth looking like a little girl but is in fact more than 200 years old.

Actually has anyone ever gotten trouble for this kinda stuff before?

Also i can't find source

Yes, some Canadial lad got arrested and sentenced for having some chibi kamasutra

Yep. People get fucked for ordering pretty much any products that depict lolis in lewd positions. Onaholes, mangas, artbooks etc.

Happens so often that it's pretty much beyond a bunch of anecdotes too.

you won't

my loli doujins came through without problems

This thread is being monitored by the RCMP. Enjoy your jailtime sickos.

A fucking leaf

HA! I hope this is real.

They only charge people who also have actual CP.

Actual cp as defined by "drawn pictures with children in it".
Even in USA someone got jailed for having hentai manga.

Yep. A product with a loli is enough to warrant the authorities to confiscate any physical data storage devices you may have in attempts to find CP.

You won't face the jail if they won't but you will still get on the list, will face a one of those SJW tribunals for possessing indecent material and will get fined in the end..

Man, jerking off to porn is hard.
Everyone wants to see your porn stash and will throw you in jail if they don't like what gives you boners.

It was a 10 year old case and the faggot plead guilty instead of fighting. It was later established than any type of drawn art is protected by your constitutional rights.

It may get you in troubles with SOME prosecutors who don't know better but the precedent is already rock solid. In fact you can easily purchase lolishit on many american anime conventions.

Source looks like Tsugomomo. I never read the manga though so I can't tell you for sure.

Why do SJWs hate CP so much

the funnier thing is that most of the "lolicon" there just don't simply give a fuck about real women, either adult or not.
there is a reason why we call it 3DPD.
Doesn't matter if adult , teen, Ugly , Cute , Pretty or whatever the fuck they are they're still 3DPD, such concept is Beyond the little mind of normies.

>normies
Fuck off newshit

Yes they don't get in trouble specifically for the material they are importing though unless it's some really graphic shit. What usually happens is they are allowed to investigate further, meaning they snoop around on your PC and find all your lolis and then throw you into the jail cell.

Yeah, nah. We've had too many anecdotes of outspoken lolicon lovers possessing CP or even molesting kids. We've also had confirmed cases of lolicon artists using actual CP for reference.

You should never be punished for drawing or possessing drawings no matter what they depict but it sure as fuck is enough to warrant local authorities to start watching you if they desire.

This lad is correct, if it were illegal(in USA) prosecutors would be going after businesses like Fakku and Project-H.

It's legal and some states and illegal in others, look up your laws.

Something to note for American service members, the UCMJ makes no distinction between 2D and 3D. It doesn't matter if the loli is actually a gorillion year old vampire queen from the planet Valdar, the judge can and likely will rule it CP at a court-martial.

>being a canuck in 2017

Well, fuck me then.

Everyone should hate CP. It just sucks that they'll try to label anything CP.

sauce kind user?

Google.

Last time I checked they were defending actual pedos though.

>Everyone should hate CP.
Why does the existance of porn matter?
Shouldnt you be indefferent to it as it doesnt impact you in any way?

I kinda get the Caught Pedo-Lolicon, they usually get caught for a reason, but these Artists using Real Cp as reference kinda creeps me out, then its more simple to understand why they are wary of those who buy Lolicon stuff.

You mean those trans-age fucks? Or did something else happen?

It's 10 year-old series, lurk a bit.

I don't give a shit about drawn lolis. I'm fine with that. What I despise is CP depicting actual children. You do understand that, right?

>Artists using Real Cp as reference kinda creeps me out
If you wanted to draw lolis how would you go about improving your skills with zero reference?

Not talking about lolis, but every instance of actual CP getting produced is also an instance of a kid getting raped or molested. Whenever you acquire CP you are creating a DIRECT incentive for more kids to get raped.

The only question here is whether the prosecution should proove the fact that you did in fact pay for whatever you posses in one way or another or you should get punished for merely owning it because fuck you you should have known better.

Chibi kamasutra, as in, the kamasutra drawn with chibi characters? and it got him in jail?

90% of lolis are already cartoony as fuck. You don't need any reference for that. Don't really need a reference to draw an innie either. You could also easily study works of other artists, or at the very fucking least material that depicts real kids in a non-pornographic manner like teh footage of kid gymnasts, dancers etc.

>precedent has been set
>literally zero cases of someone winning in a similar case
>obscenity laws haven't changed
Until someone shows in court that fictionalized depictions of minors fucking does not pass as obscene, there is no precedent. Just because it's not the same as CP doesn't mean it isn't illegal.

Not sure if jail but he was arrested for it

Yup. He was only there for several days, if I remember correctly, but they sure gave him a hard time about it. Denying him calls, denying him the right to the US embassy, less food. In the end, some company that protects the rights of comics and art had to bail him out.

Prime Minister Trudeau will personally come to your house and rape your female family members in front of you if you do while yelling DUDEWEEDAYLMAO

>but every instance of actual CP getting produced is also an instance of a kid getting raped or molested
>he hasn't watched any selfshot CP
lmao

If you traced a gymnast but drew it naked sucking a dick wouldnt that magically molest the kid over the time and space?
Isnt that the main argument against tracing?

>Arrested for Chibi Kamasutra.

Fuck this Retarded Earth, this is so terrible its almost hilarious , some of us should get a life sentence then.
Also anime should be banned then, and Gorge R.R Martin should be hanged for Writing a book about a little girl being Rode by Khal Drogo.

Are you genuinely retarded? You've just fucking proven that nobody gives a damn because any pornographic material may be considered obscene.

Nobody could give less of a shit of what you are doing in your own privacy unless you are doing something retarded like downloading porn from a public libraries or posting it all over your social media.

>You mean those trans-age fucks? Or did something else happen?

That too, but there were several articles published defending "virtuous" pedos, who have the urges but don't act on them, as almost heroic.

Look I get considering it a mental ilness and treating it as such rather than just EVIL (particularly if the people in question have not molested anyone yet), but that's not how they were going about it.

Also in the SJW ranks there's several alleged and confirmed pedos, some of whom HAVE molested or otherwise pursued kids. There's that tranny Sara Nyberg, and a guy who's actually been convicted for it in the past, working as a community manager for Sarkeesian.

Also feminist icon Lena Dunham, who admited in her book she diddled her sister.

Uhm... Mods?
Im wating?

Day of the rake.
Also yes, this thread is more Sup Forums than anything so I think it's time to say goodbye.

What's the rationale behind banning drawings?

The main argument against tracing is that it may involve you purcahsing or, god forbid, producing legit CP just to trace it.

That too, but there were several articles published defending "virtuous" pedos, who have the urges but don't act on them, as almost heroic.

>I have overcome my nature only through meditation and long study of the way of the loli

this shit just became less creepy and more epic.

There was a sentiment that enjoying specific media can hypnotize people into committing crimes, like how violent video games made everyone psycho killers.
In videogames theres plenty of evidence to support people dont actually commit crimes because of games, but when it comes to sexaulity theres not much that I know of.

Schools don't teach people logic and therefore a lot of people grow up with the cancer of the mind that assumes that people are mindless drones who will strive to repeat whatever they witness in the media no matter how taboo it is.

Basically the same logic that shat all over books, music, comic books, video games etc.

Needless to say that people who despise the very concept of individuality (religious nuts and lefties) are the most likely ones to get affected by it.

some people are fundamentally retarded

they might believe it actually somehow encourages people IRL (this argument has already been dismissed by pretty much all other forms of media)

they don't like it because it depicts something they don't like and they don't fucking understand freedom

>producing legit CP just to trace it
That i the most idiotic thing I have ever heard.

A lot of child molesters aren't real pedos. They just molest children because they are an easy target.

Yes there is some reading you can do on this, for a lot of real child molesters it is more about having a position of power and as you said, easy target.

>it's just a drawing m8 who cares?
Sure thing.
What's next, there's nothing wrong with junior idols being a thing?

If anything it's infinitely more disgusting and yet it has been plaguing mainstream media for years. All while people are aggressively arguing whether they should fuck people over for drawings.

>No new IP
Nice bait. Just trying to stir shit up?

>Look I get considering it a mental ilness and treating it as such
Pedophilia on it's own isn't considered a mental illness anymore, but the act of actually going after children is done by the mentally ill.

For fuck sake i've read that with Paarthurnax voice in my head and now i can't imagine him without a Dakimakura under his wing!

>go in eastern european prison for doujins because the government decided to make a pr campaign catching pedos but with the least effort possible
This dream is recurring nightmare of mine.
I-it's not likely, right?

Are you? Visual obscenity it's well defined and must be blatantly offensive. Nobody cares about run off the mill porn because it either isn't obscene or they don't care about finding out if it is. You know what prosecutors in the us do care about? Kid diddlers. Basically all depictions of kids meet the obscenity requirement.
And even if nobody cared, you could still have charges against you arbitrarily.

Would it really be hard to believe that some japanese retard may have taken pictures of naked kids to trace?

He can't sell those picutres but he sure as fuck can trace them, slap an anime face on it and then proceed to sell thousands of copies at comiket.

...

ah yes, this is another
the 'slippery slope' argument
no real grounds for anything, just another excuse to strip you of freedoms because something "might" happen
(I know you're joking)

accepting the slippery slope is a slippery slope to being faced with more restrictions on your freedom

Look, I loath Lena Dunham, she is awful as comedian and a human being. But the whole "she raped her sister" this is so extraggerated. She was a kid herself, and kids do stupid things all the time. If you consider a child asking another child to give a kiss for a candy as a rape, you are not better than SJWs.

I doubt that once he's gone full 3d molester he'll go back to drawings.

So are all nude pictures considered porn to you? And therefore all naked children pictures are "child porn"?

Do you agree with this happening?
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2667310/Why-did-Instagram-delete-innocent-photo-Mothers-fury-account-shut-image-broke-no-nipple-rule.html

It was just case of the gamergate crowd using it as an all encompassing argument so they didnt have to come up with new ones.
>she raped her sister, I won, end of discussion.

Yes that would be really hard to believe, that's why I said it sounds idiotic and any occurrences of it happening are very rare.
Because everyone knows you can still draw the kids and sell whatever at comiket without ever needing to trace and putting yourself in huge danger.
I assume your post is in jest.

Why the fuck don't you Sup Forumstards go have your off topic discussion on your own board?

Yeah, you can find the passage online, it was something like she saw her younger sister putting something in her vagina and she looked or something and she found pebbles.
Why would she publish in her own book that she actually did anything questionable to her sister?

Nope. But Pederast-san asking his niece to spread her legs so he could take photos is. Proving Intent has always been an essential part of proving guilt in any decent court.

And the fact that you are trying to defend Pederast-san by providing examples that are on the very opposite side of the spectrum (on the goddamn instagram nonethefuckingless) is not giving me any good ideas about you as a person.

>Because everyone knows you can still draw the kids and sell whatever at comiket without ever needing to trace and putting yourself in huge danger.
>I assume your post is in jest.

It sure is, user. It sure is.

lol(i)

I have no idea who Pederast is, and you probably already noticed that my post had a new IP and therefore wasn't who you were arguing with before.

What I asked you to clarify was the part of your post where you claimed that pictures of naked children by themselves should count as "child porn". Which I believe to be a faulty statement, you can take pictures of naked children in neutral positions without them counting as porn. If you're a good artist then this is more than enough to serve as a reference material for anything you might want to draw with children, whether porn or not.

The fact that you didn't address that and instead deflected to another conversation, and the fact that you resorted to ad-hominem also tells me a lot about you as a person.

>No new IP
>you probably already noticed that my post had a new IP
Is this an extension thing?

Is this the same case you're talking about?
desuarchive.org/a/thread/141821647/#141841097

>Welcome to Sup Forums, where those socially inept teenagers from highschool grew up to be armed forces members

>every instance of actual CP getting produced is also an instance of a kid getting raped or molested

>he thinks they didn't enjoy it

Sasuga neo Sup Forums

I've answered your question clearly. Intent is what defines guilt in this case.

If you take pictures of naked children in "neutral positions" and then proceed to use them for production of porn or sell them on pedo marketplaces or to share among pedos while being aware of what you are doing then you are guilty.

If you are a goddamn mom who shares pictures of her nekkid babbies with other moms then it's not a crime.

That's like saying pirating games incentivizes developers to make more games.

the only problem is an imperfect justice system
sometimes very imperfect (sometimes not)

But then you have cases where photographers make "art" out of naked kid pictures. There were a few cases on it, basically as long as it's just nudity it's allowed. For fucks sake you can Google naked kids like there's no tomorrow if you just search for nudists.

It does. It proves the demand is there.

The first commercial gay porn magazine in the US was full of boys wearing swimsuits frolicking on the beach. And the FBI tried to shut them down.

There is no DRM on child porn and therefore even if you catch a person with terrabytes of this shit on his harddrives, it may be hard or even impossible to prove whether he paid for it or not.

On one hand it would make sense to let him go without a definite proof that he did in fact support people producing it.

On the other hand, it's a goddamn fucking CP. Everyone is perfectly aware of how immoral it is and you should not have collected it. Eat shit and be aware that you'd get a bigger sentence if a prosecutor was able to prove the fact that you did in fact buy some of it.

I think both options are legit.

>I've answered your question clearly. Intent is what defines guilt in this case.

How is the intent of making 2D drawings somehow criminal and "guilty"?

Are thoughts a crime? You claimed to be against tracing because that would involve putting the children themselves in sexual positions, so what exactly is the problem with children in neutral positions being used as reference material? You know that the artist can draw things other than porn using those references, right? What would be the difference between the two? Absolutely fucking none. There is no difference as far as the children are concerned, whether their naked photos were used for reference material in sculpting fountain statues, drawing images,modeling game characters or just posted by moms on instagram. Your claims have not a iota of logic in them and are based purely on your feelings. Are you a woman perhaps?

they are degenerate enough to accept an incest manga.

Is there demand for something if no one has paid for it?

I don't think you should get hard time for having CP. I just can't reckon this idea of having files on your PC with you being sent to prison for any amount of time.
Now if you have produced it, or have prior charges with kids that's obviously different.

Yeah it is, thank god I was wrong

Its reading threads like this that make me hope the police never evers find my secret hentai stash. Have to learn how to permanantly remove programs and files from my hard drives.

Intent makes a crime a crime. The concept is known as "mens rea."

googles not turning up anything, spoonfeed before thread dies.

>Is there demand for something if no one has paid for it?

Yep. People obviously want it, or they wouldn't go through the effort to obtain it and more importantly invest time in playing it.

You've just priced it/marketed it wrong. Or so the argument goes.

the idea that you have to trace children to draw lolicon is so fucking stupid

If you can draw the human body, then you can draw childlike proportions. It isn't hard.

You're on a board where people pirate and watch anime for free. The demand is there.

>I don't think you should get hard time for having CP. I just can't reckon this idea of having files on your PC with you being sent to prison for any amount of time.
Now if you have produced it, or have prior charges with kids that's obviously different.
Jesus fuck, I hope you don't have CP.

Lurk, you fucking moron. It has an anime this season.

Thank you for your input, Mr. Rembrandt.

>Are thoughts a crime?
You are retarded and obviously know NOTHING about the law. Let me explain it in the way even a goddamn fucking retard like you would understand:

Imagine if there was a button on the ground. Pressing that button would trigger a mechanism that kills a baby.

Person A is not aware of the mechanism and steps on the button on accident.

Person B is and thinks "fuck that baby" and steps on the button with intent.

Yes, THOUGHTS are exact reason why person B will go to jail for doing exactly the same thing person A did. Things like, say, video evidence of A stepping on it without paying any attention and B slamming his fucking foot on it are there to prove that B did in fact THINK bad things when he did whatever he did.


Same goes for faggot taking photos of naked children to make goddamn fucking drawings of kids getting fucked as opposed to a mom doing the same thing.