Why doesn't Communism work?

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Because the Jews own it.

People.

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because it is a retarded utopian fantasy that will never exist

Because it's purpose is self-defeating. Trying to eliminate the existence of class requires coercion, and lots of it, because people naturally gravitate into heirarchies. If this weren't the case, it would be possible to implement communism by simply suggesting it. In order for coercion to exist, there has to be someone behind it, someone with more power than others. These people inevitably become the new ruling class.

False version of Utopia

You have to have an exceptionally high IQ to understand and fully appreciate communism, and most of humanity doesn't.

Because the core idea relies on the fact that it somehow can be achieved without using force, which it cant.
It also relies on the idea that once it is in place, the people 'in charge' step down and do not live lavish lifestyles, no different than the "evil rich capitalists" they claim to be better than.
With no incentives or innovation, the society stagnates and either starves, dissolves, or builds a wall like prison to keep deserters in.
It cannot work as it goes against human nature.

you can't create things with only a hammer and a sickle you dummy dum dums

Some people want to be better than others. I'd rather have $2 if you only have $1, than us both have $5. I don't care how much shit I have as long as it's more than the other guy. I work very hard to make that happen. In a communist society, who cares? What's the point? By design you'll never be better than anyone else.

I know you're trolling, but

>there are lefties who actually believe this

Too much bureaucracy, state control and a lack of competition between services.

Communism assumes human beings are programmable machines.

Sorry to burst your bubble sweetie but everything I said is objectively true

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its inherently unnatural
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It is literally inhumane. It expects divine results in a world of chaos.

The career politician isn't doesn't exist yeah? Use force to make people follow or lack of education. Any words of change is "radical". No one care about anything but themselves. If everyone on this board was rich with threat of being poor we'd act different too.

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But it does work, dumbfuck.

Human nature.

It’s a perfect system on paper. For insects or robots that is.

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It's not supposed to work.

Go back to r/LateStageCapitalism

I don't think it could've been stated any better.

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Because goyim, before you can have a communism Utopia you must first have a large, authoritarian Socialist state to make sure everybody is onboard and everything in in order.

Once that is achieved the state with just step aside, and viola - utopia

Trust me goyim, would I lie to you?

Because communists don't want to, that's why they invented communism.

and sage

Not even for insects does it work because many of the workers are genetic clones or produced by en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrhenotoky so they don't need to worry about self-interest.

Because the core concept is flawed. From each according to ability to each according to need only works in small families or tribes humans are inherently selfish. How long are people going to work eighty hour work weeks for 20 hours worth of supplies so someone in need gets all that extra productivity? Not very long without pointing guns at them.

No it doesn't dumbfuck, give examples.

>Once that is achieved the state with just step aside, and viola - utopia
mmmm....hmmmm....

kek

I thought the bankers were Jews? If communism doesn't work because of jewish bolsheviks, how does capitalism work with jewish bankers?

>how does capitalism work with jewish bankers?
theft mostly, ponzi schemes, fraud...

>But it does work
>Has failed everywhere dozens of times throughout modern history.
>communism doesn't even really exist anymore
>was an experiment funded by capitalists
>muh ideology
sure thing kido

Tragedy of the commons

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For the same reason that any collectivism doesn't: people have incentives to deviate from the group goal, and these stem from unconscious needs

silly nub, everything is the jews

I'm in

Because it can't, won't, and never will.

and ultimately completely selfless and altruistic to a fault. You'd have to be for communism to work

It's notoriously difficult to implement.

Alright, what's your discord?

Because it eliminates free will and the individuals right to self-determination.

You wouldn't understand

Because it's never been tried.

For the same reason that if a human body tried to serve blood and oxygen evenly to all the cells in the body they would exit homeostasis c

Because humans have a prefrontal cortex allowing of to add reason to our instincts. Our instincts are the driving for behind everything we do, and unlike, say fish, who move in schools together, instinctively, into a net to be caught. Humans can reason (fight against instint) to avoid the fishermens net (communism).

>because it's for retards.

Because it will only return to struggle for the proles.

>Bourgeois want to keep their status
>Middle wants to switch w/ Bourgeois
>proles want to dismantle everything else
>Middle uses prole's to help them become Bourgeois, lying to them for economic spirit
>the old Bourgeois become the new middle
>proles never change
rinse and repeat, like Stalin becoming the new Tsar/Czar under the falsehood of marxist socialism. :(

Because competition is one of the basics of life prosperity

It's too soon to implement it, capitalism still has a long way to go yet.

Because Jews don't run it.

Look at Marx's drivel called "Communist Manifesto". It's insane beyond measure. He thinks family is a "bourgeoisie" conspiracy to keep the masses down, that men marry women in order to make her a slave and earn money for the man, that children are "slaves" to their parents, rich people prostitute their own wives and that women should also be allowed to work in the factories in the name of "equality". Oh wait, that's what SJWs think too.

Because people like to own stuff.

Are you retarded?

Human nature. Hierarchies will always exist. Ever wonder why only the dumbest biggest losers believe in communism? They managed to fail in the easiest time to be alive and want to punish everyone else for doing something with their lives. We should throw communists in concentration camps, first honest work these fucking losers will ever do in their worthless lives.

>I promise you utopia, no i dont know how but thats part of the plan, you just have to give lazy retarded slobs like me everything you worked for oh and I'm gonna decide who needs what because thats more fair
>lets discuss my idea
no grow up and get a job

How about an Item library? Owning something for just yourself that you seldomly use is a waste of resource.

Communism can only ever work on the small-scale. Primitive tribes were communist. Many religious people establish communes. But once you start running into Dunbar's number, the only way you can hold it together is by force and propaganda.

Whatever it becomes at that point, it is never communism. Just some form of hierarchical-totalitarianism.

jews never change do they. what a piece of shit

Because its designed in spite of human nature not to take advantage of it. Also the first thi g you give up is freedom. Freedom cannot exist without capatalism.

His lifestyle was abhorrent: He smoked and drank heavily. He seldom bathed or washed. He was totally incompetent at handling money. He never seriously tried to get a job but lived off loans from family and friends that were never repaid. Without his patron Friedrich Engels, he and his family would have starved. The family’s silver service was often in the pawn shop, as were their clothes. At one point only Marx had enough clothing to leave the house, and he was down to his last pair of pants. His family life was a complete tragedy: One of his daughters died of an opium overdose and another of a suicide pact. When Franzisca, aged 1, died, they lacked the money to buy a coffin. His son, Edgar, got gastro-enteritis due to the squalid conditions of the home and died in 1855. The family employed a servant, Helen Demuth, from 1845-1890, calling her “Lenchen.” She never received a cent in wages from Marx, only room and board. She was Marx’s mistress, who fathered a son, Freddy, by her. Freddy was permitted to visit his mother only by coming in the back door. Marx only met his illegitimate son once. When Jenny discovered his infidelity, she was devastated. One can only reach one conclusion about Marx: He was a man of immense selfishness and self-indulgence. He never personally knew any working class members and the one he had as his family servant he did not pay and he used her as his mistress.

Learn some dialectics bro.
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Even though the people who have the capability to do certain jobs or work will inherently have a greater value than some basic bitch manual labor person.
If everyone is treated truely equal, then we’re talking a society that doesn’t see the issue with losing specialized in-demand occupations vs. losing a few janitors.

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It's because there aren't free markets.

IMO a system where managers are employed to run state owned businesses that receive a set percentage of the profits as an incentive to maximize profits in competition with other businesses to create market factors is the only way that communism will ever be efficient.

The benefit of such a system is that businesses can be taxed on all profits not allocated for future business expenditure, and potentially replacing income taxes.

>If everyone is treated truely equal, then we’re talking a society that doesn’t see the issue with losing specialized in-demand occupations vs. losing a few janitors.

The point isn't to treat everyone equally, but to leach as much money as possible from the entrepreneurs who utilize the markets by replacing them with government employees, so that the government can take more wealth from businesses.

Obviously this makes the market undesirable to foreign businesses, leading to susceptibility famine.

It doesn't work because it's insane to work when you can get just as much by not working. Especially when the people who aren't working hate you.

Human beings aren't a blank slate.

Because an ideology that doesn't reconcile with the inherent nature of its citizenry (i.e. human nature) will forever lack the faculties necessary to actually succeed. Communism would work for robots, because they lack traits such as greed, envy, pride, et. al.