Prison School

Prison school thread, I hope you are all up to date on the Manga
I feel Hana needs to be more honest with herself and Kiyoshi needs to stop being so dense, I feel these two will wind up together.
Also Risa is best girl, and Andre is a sack of crap unless he really Can't remember his time with her, what does she even see in him any way?

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What sorcery is this?

>Risa is best girl
all I needed to hear user.
>Kiyoshi needs to stop being so dense, I feel these two will wind up together
I'm not positive they'll end up together but the yakiniku is fated to go wrong after that he's definitely going to reflect on his talk with Hana at some point later on.
Presumably right before Chiyo is willing to forgive or talk to him about what ever happens at the party he could be driven to suicide again but who knows.

Reminder that Chiyo will unlock her inner super slut and rape kiyoshi

Andre is nothing more than training equipment now.

Has Hana peed on the main character again yet? The first time was good but I feel they should bold more over their mutual fetish

For the entire series, Hana's development has been based solely on Kiyoshi and not herself, just like any other tsundere, yet people praise her for being a "fleshed out character". She needs to learn to grow without Kiyoshi, who's clearly not into her the way she is to him. I still like her but if she accepts that Kiyoshi is into somebody else and moves on, that might be enough to push her from worst girl all the way up to best girl status.
I'm glad you mentioned Risa, who is also my best girl. To me, she's everything Hana is supposed to be but much better. Unlike Hana, her goal is to please her love interest, not herself. We actually see her working her ass off to get what she wants, and we even get development for her outside of her romance.

She'll go full on Anna from Shimoneta

So many 6's....you blasphemous fucks

My man, Andre come to your senses.

I feel Hana needs to only appear to satisfy fetishes and fuck off the rest of the time, and anyone who "goes insane" in the future needs to immediately die and not rave about cricket tempura or run around ruining every page and grow to gigantic size.

Kiyoshi doesn't need to stop being dense. He needs to start keeping his distance from Hana. Poor boy has been through enough because of her. Just let him be happy with Chiyo.

No piss since the futons, probably never ever ever as mangaka is probably afraid people will realize it's one of his fetishes (way too late btw).
He also keeps backpedaling on Kiyoshi to keep him a "misfortunate vanillafag" so people can keep reading and pretend it's all le epic joek and that they don't also have the mangaka's fetishes.
Notice how every other scene of Meiko sweating has it all somehow drip from or past her crotch to make it look like she's peeing. He needs to just take the plunge already.

Seriously this. It's not like she wouldn't let him watch her pee once they've grown close, they could be happy together without Hana's involvement

Hana is that crazy girl you did crazy shit with when you were young, Chiyo is the kinda girl you want to make an actual future with

childhood is tolerating Hana
adulthood is realizing Chiyo makes more sense

I like Risa, but when the new chapter drops this weekend there's going to be crickets in the thread.

That's some real shit, user. I thought the same thing back when Kiyoshi held back from groping Chiyo. It's like his dilemma is staying a pervert versus growing into a man.

And yet, if Hana shows up for even just one frame, the threads blow up with shit. It's a shame really, because as noted here Risa gets none of the credit she deserves when she's similar to Hana and of course Meiko but better them both in every way, yet gets very little credit for it.

But how can he stay a pervert when he's in denial about being one in the first place?

I liked Risa before the shark got jumped entirely with Andre.
I just don't want to see either of them anymore

Kiyoshi isn't a pervert at all. He's just a normal teenage boy and the least perverted of the boys too according to the manga.

He IS a pervert, but just like any teenager. Chiyo makes him want to mature, while Hana holds him back into that juvenile, perverted teenager mindset.

In the end is up to the author, and while I'm a Hanafag because she is more fun, Chiyo is the one who realistically makes the best choice for a stable relationship

Risa doesn't get any of the credit, because she's pretty normal compared to the rest of the cast. I mean talks about Hana not growing outside of Kiyoshi, but Risa's growth has a lot to do with Andre, too.

It's hypocritical to criticize one and to laud the other when one is just a subplot mirroring the main plot. I mean it's not as if Risa's relationship with Kate changed, because of her relationship with Andre. Is she trying to better herself? She was trying to become a better S for Andre, something she is clearly throwing away, because she thinks she's lost Andre. Hana has the same issue. She might have claimed that she was doing for the sake of her honor and revenge, but then it blossomed into love that she's still in serious denial about. So far we don't really that in-depth into Risa's character like that.

I mean what she's doing is sweet and it was cute when Gakuto tried doing it, too, but Risa isn't just that compelling of a character. Just because you like her doesn't make her so.

tfw no Chiyo peeing

>He IS a pervert
Again, no he is not. He has shown no signs of anything perverted. All he's done is shown attraction to the female body, which is healthy and normal for any 15 year old.

This doesn't make any sense, because in the beginning of the manga he was denial of being a pervert. Now he's embracing it a lot more, but still in denial. The only logical conclusion is for him to come to terms with being a pervert. It's his true path to adulthood.

If he started as a pervert he wouldn't have been so against peeping on the girls, initially, in the first chapter. I recommend rereading the futon piss arc again, because there was a lot of symbolism them in regards to Kiyoshi's mindset.

TFW NO CHIYO PEEING!

Kiyoshi will never betray his waifu

Many of the things that he did for the 'sake' of the wet tee contest and Chiyo does put him in the pervert category. He may claim it's for the sake of the goal, but it's the fact that he's willing to do it anyways is kind of suspect. Like even now, he's pretty unapologetic about grabbing Mari's breasts recently. Or the fact he was willing to pee in front Hana after fighting it for chapters on end.

I suggest you reread the entire manga because you're talking out of your ass. Kiyoshi was only against the peeping because he didn't want the other guys to peep on his Chiyo.

Being forced to do something doesn't make you a pervert, user. It makes you a victim.

His priorities changed because he was in a hurry with the Hana thing and Mari he owes zero apology because she was making him take his dick out.

Mari also wrote in the wet t-shirt contest. Mari is a perverted barely-closeted lesbian secretly obsessed with the female ass because of her retarded dad, and Kiyoshi literally and actually dindu nuffin because the wet t-shirt contest wouldn't be peeping at all, it's an open thing. Tbh I hope Jewyoshi continues and he bankrupts this whole shit school through nicle-and-diming and it's forced to close and he takes all of the now-prospectless girls for his harem expect the waifus Gakuto and the others steal away from him.

tfw when in Utopia scanlations it proves that KIyoshi didn't sisterzone her, that sister word came out of hana's mouth in desperate attempt to hide her what she slipped

>secretly obsessed with the female ass
Nice headcanon.

>let's suck each others' vaginas because uh proofs uh reason you're in love with me aren't you?

He was not forced to pee in front of Risa. He chose to do that.

It's not hypocritical to praise one and critique the other because while Andre is Rosa's motivation, we actually her connecting with other characters. When Hana shows up, it's either because of Kiyoshi or she's not doing anything. She's a one-note character like most of the characters in the manga. There's nothing wrong with being normal because you need that foil for comparison. She's not as eccentric as Hana, but she's also not annoying.

How would you have kept that piece of the escape kit hidden then? You have five seconds to reply before she walks over.

I suspected as much, because had he sister zoned her that would have been the end of their story.

Anti-HanaxKiyoshifags BTFO.

And he was disgusted by what he did there. Still not a pervert.

>anti-Hana
the schizophrenia is strong

He didn't have to go that far. He could have done anything else. Mari didn't even tell him to do that. He came to that conclusion on his own. The only thing Kiyoshi is a victim are his own decisions and Hana, at times.

Again, how Risa's relationship with Andre change her relationship with everyone else? I am waiting.

>uh proofs uh reason
Such denial. Here she is transfixed by the glorious male ass.

Him being in denial doesn't change the fact that he is one

This

All in all, Kiyoshi is a pervert. HOWEVER, he's no more perverted than any other boy his age. There's a difference between accepting and embracing. He HAS to accept that he is a pervert no matter which direction he goes. But after that, he has a choice. Either embrace being a pervert, or grow out of that and into something better.

He was hesitant at first and then tried to hide when they all got caught instead of owning up to it.

It does, because he hasn't accepted it yet. He has to be able to accept it before moving forward. He has to accept it before wanting to 'mature' or moving past it. That's what I'm claiming doesn't make any sense.

Whether or not it changes her relationship with anybody else has nothing to do with it. It's a couple, all that matters is what happens between the two. But that's besides my point anyways, my point is that we actually see Risa's character develop when she's away from Andre unlike Hana, who only gets development when she's with Kiyoshi.

>anything else
Your five seconds are up and the nearly-unphasable Risa caught you before you fucked around enough to get the pres to come down there and yell at Mari.

You don't seem to realize that contrived situational drama/humor is what this manga runs on.

>thread full of arguing about Kiyoshi's true nature based on nothing but speculation
>waifufags arguing worse than ever
You see Hiramoto? You see what happens when you stop giving us piss chapters?

We're talking about two different things here that are nevertheless connected: what he is versus what he thinks he is. You're right, he hasn't accepted that he's a pervert. But regardless of that, his actions and thoughts prove otherwise. I'm not arguing that he hasn't accepted it, in fact I think we're both saying the same thing, that he has to accept what he is before growing.

That wasn't arousal any more than her dad staring at Mr. Influential's ass was.
Face it faggot, Mari's an ass man trapped in the USC's body thanks to her dad fucking her up.

>he's no more perverted than any other boy his age
That's a contradiction, smartass. Being a pervert means you're really into something that is out of the norm. Like André and his sm shit.

kiyoshi's just got a nice ass user

>That wasn't arousal
Holy shit, this denial.

I don't know wether I want to punch or hug loli Meiko.

please refer to

That's not a contradiction, being a pervert is not exclusive to being into weird shit. Teenage boys are all perverts, that's what the hormones do during puberty. Chairman's a pervert but he's into ass, a pretty normal fetish. And because he's an adult, at this point he's chosen the path of perversion, which unfortunately for him has consequences.

Perversion is a deviation from the norm.
Society just never made an attempt to understand teenage boys because men are molded into whatever the most useful shape is deemed to be for society as a whole.
Basically men are actually treated the way women have been pretending to be treated and complaining about for centuries.

>Reiterating the same point
Again, if all boys are perverts then none of them are because perversion is a deviation from the norm. How hard is it to get that. If every person in the world was into SM like andre, then that would be considered normal and not perverted.

Yes, but that isn't always strictly tied to what exactly you're into but rather, how MUCH you're into it. Chairman, for example, likes the ass. Most straight guys like the ass, that in itself is nothing out of the norm. The part that becomes out of the norm is how MUCH he loves the ass. How much he worships and glorifies the ass.
You're definitely spot on about how society molds men compared to women, seeing as how women can get away with being into way more weird shit. Then again, a lot of that comes from men ourselves. We like when girls make out, but if a guy gives another guy a quick peck, it's immediately gay. Which it is, but it's natural for me to feel that when I myself am a straight guy.

>We like when girls make out
Supremely recent propaganda from the porn industry having a rare alliance with feminist dykes.
I never thought that shit was hot and I still cringe, it's just been marketed to all of us constantly from a young age (like many many things on Sup Forums and elsewhere) and most of you are incredibly vulnerable to suggestion, probably because your dads weren't around or some shit, I don't know.

But your flaw is comparing teenage boys to other teenage boys instead of comparing them to people overall. Obviously, when compared to other teenage boys, perversion is normal. That's not what's being argued. What's being argued is that part of the growth into manhood is the decision to try to fuck everything that moves or settle down. This conversation wouldn't even take place in the first place if it wasn't for the very fact that teenage boys have, or are at least considered to have, high sex drives.

Speaking of "perversion", is there anyone ITT right now lurking or posting, any male heterosexual that is, who wouldn't want to watch an attractive woman pee?
If so, explain yourself IMMEDIATELY and explain how this is repulsive or disinteresting to you. I mean you get to see female genitals doing something and it's not even something alarming like dripping blood.

Peeing is the body disposing of waste, just like shitting is. Mind you, I can understand a guy liking a girl peeing and not shitting. But to me they're one in the same, I'm not sexually attracted to either of them because to me it's gross, in the context of sex at least.

Your flaw is thinking there's a difference between teenage boys and adults. "Settling down" doesn't stop a man from wanting to fuck every piece of ass he sees, most just choose to not do it. Same goes for teenage boys, stop trying to make them out to be these balls of hormones that can't control their urges. A teenage boy is just as proficient at holding back as an adult male. And the same goes for teenage girls by the way. THey're just as intrested in sex as teenage boys, but apparantly they can't be called perverts for that.

Right, but one smells terrible and will make you sick and has nothing to do with vaginas, and the other has pretty much no odor when properly hydrated, will not make you sick (though why would you be touching it anyways unless you're Kiyoshi-tier retarded), and has everything to do with vaginas. It even carries the aspect of intimacy that the sexual revolution has robbed sex itself of. It's apex tier fetish senpai.

>I mean you get to see female genitals
What are you, some sort of virgin? Pee is disgusting, same as shit. Just because you're a weird fuck who's into that doesn't mean the rest of us should be.

So you're saying that you had so much sex you're now indifferent to seeing women naked and need something else to excite you, like man ass?

But the difference here is the action. Everybody has sexual urges, the difference is how you act upon it. And adults have more power to act on those actions, teenagers have less power but are more likely to act impulsively without thinking of consequences. There is an absolute difference between teens and adults, the mind isn't completely formed as a teen. It's basic science, I don't see why this is hard to understand.

I can't believe the Sports Festival Arc is finally over.
And the last two chapters with Hana were amazing, I can't believe the author wasted that much chapters on the previous arc.

When I was a teenager I wanted to do lots of things to women and spy on them and so on, and my mind was undeveloped to the point I had trouble doing lots of basic things or making risk-reward decisions correctly, but I didn't harass any women at all because I was capable of empathy. Are most people actually empathy-impaired before their midlife crises or something? Should they not be considered humans or true legal adults before turning 40?

What I'm saying is that I don't need to mix something disgusting with something great just to get to that great part. I'm not that desperate.

Well, like I said, I understand people being into that. I'm just explaining why I think that shit's nasty. No amount of explaining will change what another man's preference is.
Also, pee doesn't come out of the vagina. It comes out of the urethra, close to the vagina but not the vagina.

>more likely to act impulsively without thinking of consequences
Even if that were true, that still wouldn't make them perverts.

No, I'm not saying that but you have to remember two things. Number one, we're not talking about your experience, we're talking about other people. And number two, the people we're talking about are fictional.

And what did it accomplish?
Being cringe. Lots of stale fanservice and outright fan disservice. Wasting a lot of time on "bringing back" the VP. Jumping the shark over and over to the point where absolutely nothing that happens after this can be considered exciting. Making readers hate Andre. Making readers hate Risa. Making readers hate Kate. Making readers hate Mari. readers everyone hate Hana. Making readers hate Kiyoshi. Boring us all with the conclusion we KNEW we were going to get where it's a draw. Jumping the shark with muh rube goldberg magic.

Literally the only benefits were the sort of fun principal story and Gakuto's redemption which they went to "power corrupts" on literally in one chapter and got the rube goldberg girl to HATE HIM ETERNALLY.

I just hope Hana and Kiyoshi end up together...
I love hana she's perfect

"Vagina" != vaginal canal
There's no good word for the summation of the female genitals so people casually refer to it all as the vagina. The urethra's nearly equidistant between the vaginal canal and the clitoris, literally could not be more important or erotic.

I think you're confusing urination voyeurism with urophilia, not that I blame you.

This reminds me when in middle school a kid asked me if it was true girls had 3 holes ( in his words "one for pee, one for shitting and one for periods") and the absolute shock and confussion on his face when I told him yes.

It would make them perverts because no matter how common it is, it's still considered a deviation from how people should think especially in the Japanese culture. Which is why there's so much weird hentai shit coming out of Japan, because that's what happens when you try to dictate other people's feelings.

I agree with everything you said.
It's over now, let's hope it never happens again.

I completely agree my fellow Hanafag, just with the exception that almost every single thing about Hana is shit and she should die in a fire

I want to drink Hana's pee.

true degenerate

She is quite cute.

But in my mind, as well as everybody who doesn't have a pee fetish, it's enough of a distinction to not be attracted to it and arguing with other people's sexual preferences is a waste. Like piss. All anybody can do is explain why they are or are not into a particular fetish.

Nah, she's shit

since these scenes theres been nothing between them for years

No it wouldn't. In the west girls even promote impulsive behaviour in guys (to a point). Again, stop trying to make teenage boys into hormonal slaves to their reproductive organs. Just because you're a teenager doesn't make you a pervert. It's just stupid claiming something like that. And it makes you sound like a feminist shouting how all guys are rapists.

This. Chiya can go with someone as bland as she is.

>Bringing up the west when talking about a manga that takes place in Japan.
I was a teenage boy once and I can tell you how perverted me and my friends were. Base on how upset you're getting, I'm going to assume you still are in your teen years but I could be wrong, it's besides the point.

that face is cute

Nobody suggested they were slaves to hormones except you, all I ever said was that during puberty (which is where the characters of the manga are), the sex drive is exceptionally high. I never said that alone defines perversion. I said that, coupled with the ACTIONS, defines it. And based on the thoughts and actions of the five boys, they are perverts. We've established that from chapter 1. I'm not saying they deserve punishment, don't know why you'd pull the "reee feminist" card. I'm just pointing out a fact of the story.

>Nobody suggested they were slaves to hormones
That's literally your entire point.

>We've established that from chapter 1
No we haven't. We established that they are all attracted to girls, which isn't perverted at all. Shingo, Kiyoshi and Gakuto have all 3 shown restraint when it comes to their attraction too. So yes their actions speak loudly, they aren't perverts.

Then you've willfully ignored my point if that's what you think. Like I've explained, my point was about what defines a pervert. But keep ignoring it, only proves how unfounded your point is. And in chapter 1, they planned to peep on the girls' baths. Which is perverted.

post more Hanas

She's trash though

No, all you've done is shout how all teenage boys are perverts because they have less self control than adults. Which isn't just untrue and stupid, it also still doesn't make them perverts.

And no, the peeping doesn't make them perverts. Adults will peep when they have the chance too. Hell, watching porn, trying to get in a girl's pants, that's all actively trying to peep as well. You really need to go look up what the word pervert actually means.