If it only works in theory, why is communism still here even after decades of war against it by half of the world?

If it only works in theory, why is communism still here even after decades of war against it by half of the world?

>has mcdonalds
>communist
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Most of these countries don't have communism anymore or are dirt poor

Remember to drop a redpill and sage people

Oh so like, If they have even 1 private business it's no longer communism. I didn't know that.

>oh so if they have private businesses it's capitalism
yes that's literally how it works

If there is a means of production that is privately owned, then yes, it is no longer communist. China has plenty of private manufacturing and other enterprises. So does Russia. they are not truly communist

So what do you call em? Socialism? Democracy?

I can't tell if you're a troll or just fucking dense

You must be over 18 to post on this board too, btw

They're a mixture, like most countries are. It's just that different countries are at different levels of each system. Not sure about calling Russia a democracy as I can't vouch for the legitimacy of their elections. they may have social programs and much government control, but they certainly aren't communist

>So does Russia. they are not truly communist
Australia is not truly a British colony.

>implying modern Russia is communist.
lol ok kid

you realize those things aren't related right?
dumb uneducated nigger never make a thread again

It can be argued that communism failed before it started. At least according to the original theory put out by Marx and other Marxists. It was supposed to come in after the collapse of capitalism, because capitalism was seen as unsustainable and inefficient. This never happened, so the Bolsheviks went to arguably the least capitalist and developed country in Europe, hi-jacked a coup they didn't even start, and implemented their system forcefully.

Because while we have to beat it back every time, they only have to win once.

It's the jewish way.

That audio tape of Harvey putting his "moves" on that chick wasn't some isolated tactic. That's how jews do everything.
Push, push, push, without end. If you meet resistance, negotiate an alternate compromise without ceding ground, then start pushing again.

Oligarchy? Republic? Monumentalism? I am only asking.

Fair enough.

>Communism
>Works in theory
Pick one.

Communism fails to solve the economic calculation problem. The Labor theory of value has been disproven not only analytically but empirically.

Communism doesn't work in theory or in practice.

How can you consider a hammer or a toothbrush a personal property, when in cummunism there's no property?
Why would you waste resource producing more than say (hypothetically) 1 hammer/toothbrush per 7 persons?
How can one cultivate and harvest crops to personal use, when there's no personal property to be used for farming in cummunism?
How & who allocates the public land used by the collective?
The ten Plaks of Communist manifesto:
#8 "Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture."
> Equal obligation
How can a stateless and non-hierarchical society enforce this?
> Your worktime is equivalent to everybody else's worktime
Am I forced to sit and drawn pictures of nature for as long as others work in factory, if I don't want to do manual labour as an artist?
How is Theft defined in cummunist world, when there's no property in non-hierarchical society you can steal from others?

Elaborate please

The LTV implies that labor intensive markets will be more profitable and productive than capital intensive ones, as per Das Kapital. This has been empirically disproven, meaning Marx was wrong.

Analytically speaking, communism has a deficient or non-existent answer to the economic calculation problem, leading to massive shortages, surpluses, and deadweight loss.

Communism is inefficient in theory, and is founded on faulty principles.

Commies love to say it works in theory but that's because they've only read the 20 or so pages of the Manifesto. They're too intimidated to crack open das Kapital and actually analyze it to see the bullshit.

Communism is against private ownership of business (ala the means to production), not personal ownership.

But I get what you're saying, it's the same thing with health systems.

What is the difference, when business' are a literal form of personal ownership?
> it's the same thing with health systems
elaborate

fair enough, cheers!

Besides, if it's such utter failura that can't answer such basic practical questions, why are you shilling for it, you useless tosser?

its not. those are oligarchies with egalitarian propaganda

>We're against private ownership of business, not personal ownership
>But if you personally own too much wealth it will be redistributed
You would take my show horses and put them to work in the fields you took from me. Fuck off with your "personal property" bs.

Also, if I disassemble a mean of production, you couldn't take away me personal property of those pieces, and nothing would be produced then.
On what basis can you confiscate my personal property?

>Le private vs personal ownership meme

There is no difference. Any property (physical or otherwise) can be means of production the moment someone figures out how to make a business out of it.

There's also nothing inherently different about personal ownership corporate ownership, or any other business ownership our governments construct to make their paperwork easier to manage.

>comunist is still here!!
>of course I won't admit it's communism if you point out the abuses!!

Communism is inevitable when 99% of the wealth is in the hands of 1% of the population. It will happen. I just hope not to live to see it.

Internet allows people to ignore counter arguments. See this board. Ancient Nazi propaganda controls here. Memes never die.

Personal ownership is not private ownership.

Corporations are not people, although they get the same right as people, so that's where it gets tricky.

Healthcare systems are usually ran as socialist system, except for the states and other 3rd world countries. It could give 10 pairnets in one room, if they have to to treat all the patients, you know... instead of just leaving people to die, because they're full up and the customers paid for the week.

Communism isn't a world without property, it's the means of production is ran by the state.

You still get to own stuff.

(((ECHOCHAMBER)))

Most of the people there feel huge nostalgia for those good old days. The communist party of Russia is the second largest political party there with more than third of seat in their congress and senate.