Can someone redpill me on the differences between National Socialism and Socialism?

Can someone redpill me on the differences between National Socialism and Socialism?

I've heard some Natsocs say they are distinctly different, but how?

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The key difference is nationalism. Start there.

Read
>The German State on a National and Socialist Foundation
by Gottfried Feder

Socialism uses the government to support basic life sustenance, like food, health and welfare.

National socialist uses the government to kill all the dark and poor people. In the end, all natsoc turds will become casualties of their own stupidity and the country will consist only of the top tier of wealthy people, and 99% of them will be slaves to the 1% richest.

I understand the nationalist portion, I am moreso talking about the economic differences.

natsoc is just like regular socialism. but only for people of a specific nationality.

>X for everyone (of this particular nationality)

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Read the fucking book you lazy Mutt.

in natsoc you can own a company unlike in soviet russia. taxes were high though.

National Socialism is basically capitalism with autarky and corporatism.

The most obvious difference would be proliferation of individual industry in the form of small business concerns and the nationalization — by which I mean conversion from potentially foreign and exploitative capitalistic interests to exclusive ownership by the members of the nation for its profit and prosperity — of large-scale industry, trade, and especially financial activities.

The word you're looking for mercantilism; in this case not of a political empire per se but one primarily biologically defined.

Give a rundown of the book Fingolian.

Socialism/communism has a planned economy. National socialism uses economic policies from both socialism and capitalism without being ideologically committed to either. Capitalism allows the rich to exploit the poor and communism/socialism encourages the poor to fight against the rich. National socialism forces rich and poor to work together.

hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/index.html

There you go, OP.

In 1936 the corporate tax rate was only 25%.

This is pretty good stuff. So its basically just taking the jew out of capitalism.

It's like 240 pages. If you are unable to summon the attention span to read it yourself you were not meant to know about it.

Nope you've got it all wrong Henny.

What exactly did I get "all wrong" leaf?

The Third Reich economy was primarily focused on rearmament and industrialization of a formerly agricultural country and as such isn't a statistical model for peacetime production but the emphasis is on producing to fit the unprovoked desires of the civilian population without the unnecessary demand influences of marketing and the addictive temptations of the merchant class speculating in enticing rarities.

Economically, they're diametrically opposed. Socialism generally wants government to perform as much of the industry as possible and regulate the rest. Natsoc is free market so long as your business is good for the folk. Natsoc Germany actually privatized a huge portion of existing government business.

no i heard it somewhere. im sure im right.

>Hi yes we value the individual
>As long as you're the right type of individual ;^)

This isn't freedom, anons. I'd rather have Jews trying to trick me into a low interest no deposit no repayments for 12 months personal loan, because at least I can say no.

By the end of the war yeah taxes were ridiculously high but obviously that isn't nominal operating conditions is it?

Juden raus.

Any form of social = government-dependent niggers.

The Third Reich lost nigger.

What's your point, homo the world is a few years away from becoming a global Haiti because of that.

Point still is that even if you have incredible high taxes, it's still better than communism because of competition.

the standard definition of "Socialism" is typically state ownership of industry. police forces are socialized, schools are socialized, hospitals are socialized, etc.

National Socialism takes a more broad understanding of socialism to be community wellness or community collaboration.
the goal of NatSoc is that the people think of their nation as an extended community of friends and family

Explain how market demand is unnecessary. How exactly is the government going to produce effectively without price signals etc.? Sounds like a controlled economy to me.

Marketing demand, not market demand. The activity of the speculator to create artificial demand for things people don't know they want which serves as the basis of conspicuous consumption as a social activity.

dont depend on your own government and youll be depending on someone elses soon enough

>trick
that's a strange way to spell "force"

Investors aren't "speculators". This is commie logic

>investors
Talmudism won't save you.

This.
Socialism is the government taking care of the world to the detriment of the people.
National Socialism is the government taking care of the people regardless of the world.

A lot of the issues you guys have with capitalism seem to be that it's possible for stupid people to do stupid things, like take out a predatory loan or buy something they don't need because they saw it on TV. Do you honestly think stupid people wouldn't be stupid in Natsoc, or that predators wouldn't game the system (or outright scam people)?

National Socialism takes the notion of public trust and the common good to its maximum extent possible, but it can only do that with the bedrock of a common shared identity. The Greeks called this 'philia'. National Socialism is impossible in a multiethnic multicultural state, as there's no shared core that can serve as a baseline.

That's precisely why all white countries are being flooded with invaders. It's a blatant attempt to suppress philia.

I think we're going to eliminate them as factors after having dispensed with the liberal ideological bias in favor of permitting disorderly conduct for its own sake.

Sure thing commie. Do you actually get paid by the deep state or are you just that cucked

Right, of course you can remove any undesirable human activity by simply removing the people performing that activity at any given time. Sorry, I forgot who I was talking to.

In the interest of total transparency I will tell you I used to be a federal employee but am now in the oil business.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Position

Well, of course they would. Party leaders especially. No system is free from corruption and never can be. It's just that such corruption will be the exception rather than the rule. The reason why democracy is dying in the West is because the ruling class realized they can get away with literal murder and no one will care, as everyone is broken up into warring microstates unto themselves and are unable to offer any resistance. Democracy is an utter farce at this point. It's an amusement park to make people feel good as they get screwed over.

But while any NatSoc government cannot be 100% free of corruption (just as capitalist/communist societies definitely cannot be), the ultimate question is whether the people can tolerate the rare excess in exchange for so many benefits and the natural comfort and safety of ethnic unity. My conscience is clear on the matter

As is mine.

>such corruption will be the exception rather than the rule
Citation absolutely fucking needed

I'm not going to address your arguments regarding democracy, because I'm only talking about the economic side of freedom, and I'm not super into our political system anyway.

What do we lose when inferior foreign goods vanish from the marketplace and demand flows to the naturally high-quality production of our prideful English/Germanic people?

Also understand I'm in favor of an open market with the Anglosphere and its extended cousins, because we all have something to gain from it, maybe even including the Japanese on some sectors; I'm not talking about eliminating private business; because that's ridiculous; just the kinds of business that give people nothing but harm in exchange for honest work; frauds, scams, harmful foodstuffs and fake patent medicines like the shit Alex Jones sells. On a lot of other merriments I'm highly flexible.