SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
PROTESTANTS ARE LOST AND THERE IS NO
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>there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church
Not even a consistent claim by the Catholic church
Catholics aren't Christian
I'M TIRED OF YOU SUBVERSIVE SHIT ANDERSON!
RABBI DEMON JESUS IS NOT GOD!
goddamn what a huge faggot, preaches all kinds of shit and is just another filthy niggerloving queer, he should be ashamed. Christcucks are really awful
Catholics church? Your pope... the man closest to your god had to resign for being complicit in child rape. If you think there is any salvation in the catholic church you are deluded fool.
I'll be sure to get my nigger feet washing bucket ready
Believing in Jesus Christ as your LORD and savior and following the bible makes you a PROTESTant?
I don't get it. The term "Protestant" implies they are going agianst the norm, which implies that following the bible makes you NOT the norm.
Someone explain this.
That was written by John Paul II, an antipope and heretic. Watch vaticancatholic.com
How many white babies have you produced
It doesn't, Anderson and other Baptists reject the "protestant" label because they don't seek a reformation in the Catholic church
>and following the bible
"faith alone" =/= following the Bible
Fag
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Verses proving salvation to anyone that believes and not of works.
John
1:12
3:15-16/18/36
4:14(John 6:35)
5:24
6:28-29/35/38-40/44-45/47
7:38-39
8:24
10:27-29
11:25-27/40
12:46
14:1-3
16:27
20:31
Matthew
5:19
7:21-23(John 6:38-40)
8:10-13
12:37
21:31-32
Mark
1:15
2:5
10:24-25
16:16
Luke
3:3(Acts 19:4)
5:20
7:50
8:12
18:10-14/40-42
23:40-43
Acts
2:21
10:43
11:16-17
13:38-39/48
15:7-9
16:30-31
19:4(Luke 3:3)
26:18
Romans
1:16-17
3:20/22/24-28/30
4:2-9/11/14-16/24
5:1/15-18
6:23
8:24
9:30-33
10:3-4/9-10/13
11:6
1 Corinthians
1:14/17
3:14-15
15:1-2
2 Corinthians
4:13-14
2 Corinthians
4:13-14
1 Thessalonians
4:14
2 Thessalonians
1:10
2:12
Ephesians
1:13-14
2:8-9
4:7
Galatians
2:16/21
3:6-11/14/21-22/24/26
5:3-6
Philippians
3:3/9
Titus
3:5
1 Timothy
1:16
2 Timothy
1:9
3:15
Hebrews
4:3
10:38-39
11:7
1 Peter
1:3-5/8-9
2:6
3:21(Colossians 2:12)
1 John
4:2-3/15
5:1/4-5/10-11/13
Revelation
2:11/26
3:5/20-21
21:7/27
Fuck off with this nigger loving lunatic. I'm catholic and it's shameful to be assocaited with him
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Justification by Faith Alone and Eternal Security Refuted by the Bible ! !!
How do you refute the verses I posted?
By saying "yes faith is required" but nowhere does it say in the Bible "faith alone" except for the one verse James 2:24 where it says we are NOT saved by faith alone
HAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA GET FUCKED PROTESTANT NIGGERS
Ephesians 2:8-9
>"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
>Not of works, lest any man should boast."
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That verse is covered in the links I posted, if only you actually cared about the Bible to know context
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>SALVATION
a satanic concept and proof Christianity is a false religion along with the other 2 violent desert religions
nothing but mind control garbage
the "satanic concept" is your thinking that there is no such thing as heaven
>catholic
Satanism lite, consuming blood and flesh of a sacrifice victim over an altar, why not just go all the way and become an actual satanist?
I never said that.
I said salvation is the satanic concept (it is).
In fact it is the only concept that separates the religion from its babylonian counterparts.
the "satanic concept" then is your thinking that one can get into heaven impure and full of sin
Abrahamic redeemer religions are garbage.
All 3 of the desert religions teach this concept.
You think your spiritual life depends on a redeemer, which is a false belief system.
>impure and full of sin
And who defines what is impure or sinful?
The same men who wrote your belief system.
what is "redeeming" about choosing to not live a life of sin anymore?
Protestants are satanic garbage, as are every other religion besides Catholicism, outside of which there is no salvation
>Not even a consistent claim by the Catholic church
Pretty consistent since who on Earth doesn't know the Catholic Church?
The only reason your religion has been popular is because it has been imposed on humanity.
It's been enforced for centuries.
Why would Gods true religion need to be enforced on people if it was the one true religion?
Why did early Christians need to murder countless pagans and other non-believers?
This idea about sin and guilt is used for manipulation, ask any psychologist about guilt and how you can manipulate people with it.
Early Christian actually had not the power to do that.
They have been know by the martyr.
Jesus and his disciples?
There is no such thing as salvation in the religious sense. What happens to the billions of Hindus on the planet? God created them just to damn them? The bible is a tool for social and spiritual manipulation. There is not one single teaching in to about consciousness. It does not teach about love either, it presents platitudes, nothing more.
You worship a false alien god.
There is no true religion on the face of the Earth.
But Jesus never existed. And if he did he was just another man.
There is ZERO historical proof for Jesus.
Most mainline protestant denominations have been infested by leftist parasites, and they're stuck in a death spiral. With nothing meaningful separating them from atheist leftism, they have nothing to offer their congregations. They are filled with old people who are literally dying off.
It's so bad that many conservative American protestants are reorganizing under conservative African church bodies rather than liberal American or European church bodies.
That being said, the Catholic Church isn't far behind, especially since so many Catholics are nonwhite that the church itself increasingly serves nonwhite interests. There are more Mestizo and African Catholics than white Catholics.
Your saying the early church didn't murder non-believers? Of course they did, once they had the power to do so.
You said something interesting. They couldn't murder until they had the power to do so.
Does that sound like something God would order? Murder?
Get rid or your satanic pope and I will think about it.
Only a false alien god would want a sacrifice.
No God of love would ever demand sacrifice.
>The only reason your religion has been popular is because it has been imposed on humanity.
>It's been enforced for centuries.
That's ridiculous, early Christianity there was infighting even among the Apostles; if Jesus had not given the keys of heaven to Peter then Christianity would not be here today due to the infighting. Early Christians were persecuted and martyred and philosophically fought by satanic sects like the gnostics
>Why did early Christians need to murder countless pagans and other non-believers?
Because when they tried to convert the pagans, the pagans fought back. Watch:
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The satanic pagans absolutely despise God, just like modern pagans like Varg do
>This idea about sin and guilt is used for manipulation, ask any psychologist about guilt and how you can manipulate people with it.
No thanks, I'll take the miracles of God instead of fallible psycho-lie-gists any day
>What happens to the billions of Hindus on the planet?
The ancestors of the Hindus abandoned God after the Flood. "We shall know them by their fruits" and "If anyone does not remain in Me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers. Such branches are gathered up, thrown into the fire, and burned."
One of the first Apostles went all the way to India. Looks like they didn't take his message very well did they? Now look where that's gotten them.
Look at the pastebin in the OP; it explains that Vatican II is held by Satan and to find a traditional Catholic church near you with traditional rites and Mass
God already sacrificed Himself for you, by experiencing all of the suffering that everyone has ever gone through and will go through. Isn't that enough for you?
I thought the orthodox church was the first church, Roman Catholic an off shoot. After all, that's what orthodox means.
Yes it is.
Factually, in the Old Testament.
God himself had killed.
What do you expect from a papist American?
The Vatican is a drug smuggling and human trafficking front. Catholics don't exist.
I fucking knew it was you faggot
Both of them claim the other one is the offshoot
the Vatican changes doctrine all the time. Anyone who thinks otherwise has their head in the sand
the roman catholic and eastern orthodox churches both consider themselves catholic and orthodox in the true meanings of both words, yet after the great schism the east began to identify more with orthodox and the west began to identify more with catholic
No, the Orthodox split from the Catholics about on 1054 en.wikipedia.org
The Orthodox split because they refused to recognize the authority of the Pope, who was responsible for keeping the Church alive for the first thousand years
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Look where that has gotten them: communism, Balkan wars, Greece being invaded by Islam
Orthodoxy is a withering branch because of their corrupted faith.
>On this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
The gates of hell never got the chance against the western church until recently. On the other hand, they fought in the eastern territories for centuries and not prevailed.
>I fucking knew it was you faggot
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The shill for the MHFM
Fr. Arturo Sosa Abascal, a Venezuelan Communist and Modernist, is carrying out Francis’s agenda.
>The gates of hell never got the chance against the western church until recently.
True, but that was a prophecy by God Himself as shown in the Book of Revelations, St. Malachy's Prophecy of the Popes, and the 3rd Secret of Fatima
Look at the pastebin at the OP for proof of all of these things.
Western Catholicism is still surviving in the traditional Catholic Churches. "Orthodoxy" has been corrupted for a thousand years though.
You can't prove us wrong though. So what if I'm a shill? Mere ad-hominem to hide the fact that you have no counter-argument
Yes, watch the channel in the pastebin on how to become a traditional Catholic. Traditional Catholicism has been dead since Vatican II in the 60s
FFS, we are saved by faith alone but faith is PROVEN BY WORKS. We are not saved by works, Faith is the seed that sprouts into the tree (works) which gives us the fruit of salvation.
Salvation comes by the seed of faith, and faith alone, nobody will enter the kingdom of heaven through works.
So in the end, Sola fide is correct, but it needs to be proven true by works. So I think Catholics and Protestants are both correct in a manner, faith will always require works in order to be verified, but without a doubt we are saved by faith, through the mercy of Christ.
>So in the end, Sola fide is correct,
No. You are blatantly cotradicting yourself. You don't even understand your own "dogmas". Watch vaticancatholic.com 's videos
It's been dead since Pope Pius XI signed the treaty with the Italian republic at the behest of the child fucking Black Nobility
Just this noble eightfold path: right view, right aspiration, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration. That is the ancient path, the ancient road, traveled by the Rightly Self-awakened Ones of former times. I followed that path.
—The Buddha
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THERE IS NO SALVATION OUTSIDE THE TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC FAITH ! ! !
PERIOD
>"Orthodoxy" has been corrupted for a thousand years though.
What? Explain
The filiouqe was added against the council of chaldeon and Nicaea and the popes didn't do anything.
>The Orthodox split because they refused to recognize the authority of the Pope, who was responsible for keeping the Church alive for the first thousand years
No that is not true because it was the emperors who could councils for Christian doctrine not the pope. Pope Gregory the great a saint never accepted the idea that there can be one authority on all churches.
The pope is a satanic false prophet
Orthodox means right glory, not right way. Yes i think the orthodox claim to being the first church is stronger because domagic claims were addressed with the pope of Rome until they started to change important parts of the creeds. Sadly this no easy task to understand.
Every one under heaven says that our Way is greatly like folly. But it is just because it is great, that it seems like folly. As for things that do not seem like folly — well, there can be no question about their smallness!
Here are my three treasures. Guard and keep them! The first is pity; the second, frugality; the third, refusal to be 'foremost of all things under heaven'.
For only he that pities is truly able to be brave;
Only he that is frugal is able to be profuse.
Only he that refuses to be foremost of all things
Is truly able to become chief of all Ministers.
The end goal of Buddhism is to meet Nirvana, which ends your reincarnation cycle to this earth. However that doesn't make any sense because when you die Buddhism you dissapread into the vortex of nothingness which you yourself can't experience because personal essences do not exist in Buddhism.
By reading them in context.
God's servant, Martin Luther, slew your antichrist pope.
Citation needed
Scriptural proof?
At present your bravery is not based on pity, nor your profusion on frugality, nor your vanguard on your rear; and this is death. But pity cannot fight without conquering or guard without saving. Heaven arms with pity those whom it would not see destroyed. (tr. Waley 1958:225)
There's no salvation
Everyone for themselves on the day of judgement
Get with my program
a heretic cannot be pope, kike.
"pope" francis is a heretical anti-pope
i'm not gonna individually respond to dozens of verses when most of them aren't even about salvation. pick the quotes that actually say salvation comes from faith alone, explain your reasoning, and then i'll respond.
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Doesn't that undermine the catholic claim that the pope has authority over all bishops?
True.
Soul or psyche (Greek: "psyühē", of "psychein", "to breathe") are the mental abilities of a living being: reason, character, feeling, consciousness, memory, perception, thinking, etc.
On the Soul (Greek Περὶ Ψυχῆς, Peri Psuchēs; Latin De Anima) is a major treatise written by Aristotle c.350 B.C.
Aristotle holds that the soul (psyche, ψυχή) is the form, or essence of any living thing; that it is not a distinct substance from the body that it is in.
Borrowed from Latin anima (“a current of air, wind, air, breath, the vital principle, life, soul”), sometimes equivalent to animus (“mind”), both from Proto-Indo-European *h2enh1- (“to breathe, blow”); see animus. Cognate with Ancient Greek άνεμος (ánemos, “wind”), Old English anda (“anger, envy, zeal”). More at onde.
Nice to see a fellow MHFM supporter who knows "baptism of desire" and "invincible ignorance" are terrible heresies. I hope you're not just another poseur.
I mean if a heretic can be pope, then how can he have authority on all bishops and churches?
It's awesome being a catholic. Don't ask don't tell
>be baby
>get infanticided
>go to hell having never even lived
Really?
>Okay i'll have to read Aristotle. however how does this defend the Buddhist point of view?
Didn't we have this same thread last night?
Even the posts look the same.
Am I going crazy?
popes have authority over all bishops.
heretics are not popes.
if a pope becomes a heretic he is no longer a pope. the election of a heretic as pope is invalid.
THIS IS AN ORTHODOX THREAD NOW
NO FILIOQUE ZONE AHEAD
All people are stained by original sin. So all of us are not really "innocent". Humanity was lost since Adam's fall and only became redeemed by Jesus Christ's coming. But only if you are baptized and, after the age of reason, have the catholic faith, you can get to the Kingdom of Heaven.
There's all this debate going on between christians and then there's me.
A sad fucking excuse of a christian
The Chinese monk Xuanzang (fl. c. 602–664) studied Buddhism in India during the seventh century, staying at Nalanda. There, he studied the Yogacara teachings passed down from Asanga and Vasubandhu and taught to him by the abbot Śīlabhadra. In his work Cheng Weishi Lun (Skt. Vijñāptimātratāsiddhi śāstra), Xuanzang refutes a "Great Lord" or Great Brahmā doctrine:
According to one doctrine, there is a great, self-existent deity whose substance is real and who is all-pervading, eternal, and the producer of all phenomena. This doctrine is unreasonable. If something produces something, it is not eternal, the non-eternal is not all-pervading, and what is not all-pervading is not real. If the deity's substance is all-pervading and eternal, it must contain all powers and be able to produce all dharmas everywhere, at all times, and simultaneously. If he produces dharma when a desire arises, or according to conditions, this contradicts the doctrine of a single cause. Or else, desires and conditions would arise spontaneously since the cause is eternal. Other doctrines claim that there is a great Brahma, a Time, a Space, a Starting Point, a Nature, an Ether, a Self, etc., that is eternal and really exists, is endowed with all powers, and is able to produce all dharmas. We refute all these in the same way we did the concept of the Great Lord.
the church says don't know what happens to unbaptised infants when they die and we leave them up to the mercy of god.
>memevacantist
Not true, it's a dogma that all those who die in original sin go to hell. Unbaptized children go to hell but do not suffer the punishment of fire. This is all dogma.
not wrong about that last point
Filioque was meant to fight heresy and was approved by the east numerous times. It was an emphasis to combat arian and the other freaks. It'll be settled when we join together in the future. Furthering the divide is doing work for the devil.
>popes have authority over all bishops.
but all the bishops are equal to the pope when it comes to doctrinal questions and debates. How can the pope have all authority when every bishop is equal in debate?
I understand that the pope and this pope now excommunicated himself, but why can't he be defrocked?
Sauces on both of these, although I'm inclined to believe mr. potato nigger
Gregory Palamas as well!
basically this.