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>committing a crime (immigrating illegally) doesn't increase crime

Okay.

Lol there is no evidence that they increase crime?
If only one out of every gazillion immigrants do one crime, like only 1 crime in total the crime has increased by one.
Wtf.

I love how anyone can write anyrhing in wiki as long as it has a (((source))).

Delt tihs

It's double anti-racism, we do that crap all the time .

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>trusting data over anecdotal evidence

haha OP is a fag! if I believed that shit i'd have realised my life was worthless a long time ago!

Illegally entering the Untied states is a crime. Their first act is a criminal one.

>Our results show that the economic contribution of unauthorized workers to the U.S. economy is substantial, at approximately 3% of private-sector GDP annually, which amounts to close to $5 trillion over a 10-year period. These effects on production are smaller than the share of unauthorized workers in employment, which is close to 5%. The reason is that unauthorized workers are less skilled and appear to be less productive, on average, than natives and legal immigrants with the same observable skills. We also find that legalization of unauthorized workers would increase their contribution to 3.6% of private-sector GDP.
>The reason is that unauthorized workers are less skilled and appear to be less productive, on average, than natives and legal immigrants with the same observable skills
>less skilled and appear to be less productive
First citation I clicked on. Flood your country with less skilled and less productive people, pay them illegally below minimum wage, hand them federal benefits because they can't pay for themselves. This is the definition of insanity.

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>destroy your country in the name of economic growth, goy!
>J00 in ID

How can illegal immigration not increase crime when Hispanics (of all ages) have higher violent crime rates than whites?

Thank you Nordic friend. Thank you.

This Wiki post fails to state how the MAJORITY of illegal immigrants are some kind of welfare, and that their existance in the US costs more than what they contribute.

Just by an ILLEGAL immigrant entering the US without proper authorization, means they are increasing crime, not to mention the roughly 10% of the prison population that they are.

You move commie.

Didn't your teacher tell you not to use a user generated left-wing website?

>enhance the welfare of natives

>This paper studies the differences in earnings between Mexican legal and illegal immigrants in the United States. The analysis includes a cross-sectional examination of the wage differences between legal and undocumented workers as well as a longitudinal analysis examining the impact of legalization on the earnings of previously-undocumented workers. It is shown that the average hourly wage rate of male Mexican legal immigrants in the United States was 41.8% higher than that of undocumented workers while female legal immigrants earned 40.8% more. Though illegal immigrants have lower education and English proficiency, and a shorter period of residence in the United States, than legal immigrants, it is shown that differences in the observed characteristics of legal and illegal immigrants explain only 48% of the log-wage gap between male legal and illegal workers and 43% of the gap for women. An analysis of undocumented immigrants legalized after the 1986 U.S. immigration policy reform shows significant wage growth in the four years following legalization. These gains are due mostly to the change in legal status itself, not to changes in the characteristics of immigrants over time.

second citations I checked. Looks like if you gave all those illegal immigrants legal status they might reduce the difference in productivity with a legal spic by halve. Think about that, illegal immigrants, even without the legal problems, are worse than regular hispanics. These citations are proving the point, these are garbage people that need to be kicked out before they breed.

>Research shows
Yeah suck my dick. Honestly you would be doing more for humanity if your mouth were occupied by my balls rather than saying anything

Sup Forums gets BTFO hundreds of times a day, why should we pay attention to this BTFOing?

Possibly it could be true, as the most gibs are collected by niggers and obese mutts. If a paki came all the way to the USA it would do it to work and have a happy life. Of course, he's still a paki, but it probably would be a functional member of society. The problem is not immigration, the real problem lies within America itself.

Research shows that extra cells increase the size of your kidney and contribute to renal growth. Therefore, cancer is good for you!

Holy shit.

Never seen a Wikipedia post so decidedly leftist. I know you guys are like kikepedia and everything, but the site of pretty toned down on most articles, but this one takes the cake.

Posts like these make me want to go full 1488. I can already envision that black horn-rimmed glasses goober editor smugly applying the lock button after he wrote his agenda.

Low effort. 1/10
Shame on you straya.

>(((research)))

The problem stems from the immigrant's place of origin. If these countries had a more desirable environment for their citizens, there would be no need to migrate.

Many of these second and third world, migrants are less than desirable in the US when they have no intention of assimilating, speaking English, or even coming with a trade skill or an education ready to work...but instead, the majority of Immigrants, BOTH legal and illegal are on US welfare.

>There is no evidence illegal immigration increases crime
>illegal
>Doesn’t increase crime
Ummm, user...

>YOU GOTTA LET THESE PEOPLE IN GOY! THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO FIX THE ECONOMY!
I hate these fucking people who think the economy is the only thing in a country and I hate it even more when they say this is the only way. THERE IS ANOTHER WAY

>increases GDP

Any economist will tell you that figure is meaningless. So I will go ahead and tell you that it is absolutely meaningless. Illegals also decrease GDP per capita, which is far more telling.

>contribute more in tax revenue than they collect

Technically true, but a fucking kike couldn't be more deceiving. They also cost the State in spending more than average citizens by an incredible factor which not only offsets any contribution, but tip the scale entirely that they are an economic burden.

Here is an exert from source [21], claiming that illegal immigrants do not contribute to the crime rate.

Mind you this is an op ed from Washington post with no actual source cited for the study they claim.

>Trump was joined several times on the campaign trail by family members of victims of crimes committed by illegal immigrants, including so-called “angel moms,” whose children had been killed. As president, Trump has pledged to raise their profiles, and the new DHS guidelines issued last week included a provision to create a new office to support such victims and their families.

>“I have ordered the Department of Homeland Security to create an office to serve American victims,” Trump said in his speech to Congress. “The office is called VOICE –- Victims Of Immigration Crime Engagement. We are providing a voice to those who have been ignored by our media, and silenced by special interests.”

>Trump’s spotlight on the victims’ families has sparked an outcry among those who charge the president is exaggerating the risks to sow public fear to make his proposals more politically expedient. Studies have shown that immigrants, including the estimated 11 million living here illegally, have lower crime rates than the native-born population.

>On the campaign trail, Trump said he would seek to quickly deport between 2 million and 3 million immigrants with criminal records. But a study by the Migration Policy Institute found that 820,000 unauthorized immigrants had committed other crimes, including about 300,000 with felony records.

They throw this out with no source,

> (((Studies))) have shown that immigrants, including the estimated 11 million living here illegally, have lower crime rates than the native-born population.

Then in the next paragraph state

>But a study by the Migration Policy Institute found that 820,000 unauthorized immigrants had committed other crimes, including about 300,000 with felony records.

on (((wikipedia)))

SILENCE BONG
THEY CITE RESEARCH!!!
RESEARCH!!!!!!!!!

So the computer engineer Pajeet that escaped poverty and now has a wife and 3 kids works harder than John Smith who had its college paid by his parents and lives alone smoking weed
Obviously
Sup Forums cares about race too much
Green is the color that matters

31 billion dollars wasted every year on illegal immigrants.

In a way it's true, as long as your measure of crime is careful. Hispanics have crime rates about double that of white people, but way less than blacks. So when Hispanics move into cities with large black populations, hey presto, the crime rate has fallen in that city. It's very sneaky, but they can say it with a straight face.

>OP is a fag!
newfag detected

>Jews get richer
Wew lad really destroyed those Sup Forums arguments

>committing a crime (immigrating illegally) doesn't increase crime
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>more people in a given area causes that area to have a bigger economy

IMAGINE MY SHOCK

Based Finbro

>Using wikipedia for anything other than non-controversial scientific articles.

Facts are mutable, my friend. Feels, oh those feels, those are real. Take this, for example:

> DACA people should stay, oh yes, stay stay
> Nevermind I want to keep on "Dreamers" who are willing to settle for average market price knowing full well they need to provide for their aging families, and that their work release may eventually be contingent on my approval. My approval. The person who decides their wages, needs to also approve that they work here permanently. Convenient, right?
> Or that the "compromise" will leave their parents unable to gain Citizenship, meaning "Dreamers" are stuck with me in a high-paying engineering position to help maintain their parents' standard of living

In short, "Dreamers" are going to get preferential hiring as media darlings over normal candidates while also being in a more tenuous position. Just where Zuck wants all his little drones.

>enhance the wealth of natives

It clearly hasn't. Wages for workers has been falling for a long time, especially when considering inflation. These 'economic boosts' only ever affect large corporations or small businesses that are already run like shit. Everyone else gets screwed over. The wealth of natives in the US is going down more and more every year.

You can make a study say anything. Look at the amount of corporate espionage or insider trading committed by illegals...wow, there's like none at all! Therefore they have lower crime. It's always bullshit like that where they don't include crimes, then claim they have lower rates.

Did you know Luxembourg is a very poor country?

>illegal immigration contributes to the wealth of natives
This is literally impossible because illegals arent taxed. Any money they earn will never even be touched by the government, and the overwhelming majority of them are working class, which means that they LOWER the average wealth of people in the United states. Why? Because working class americans are competing with people who are literally paid less than minimum wage.

Also, in completely unrelated news, since the massive illegal immigration crackdown, jnemployment in the US is at a record low.

>tl;dr: wiki got raided by jews.

Kek

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mexicans aren't a race, west zealander faggot

I love that, through their shilling for open borders immigration policies, left-liberals have transformed themselves into propagandists for big business.

You need only have lived around spics for any amount of time to know how full of shit this is. Spics are nigger lite.

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selling weed is good for the economy, even though it's federally illegal

illegal immigration is also good for the economy

Evonomy is pretty important but why these niggers fail at it is that they assume that upon bring in billions of uneducated illegals, they will all have the same net worth as the average american of their race.

I remember some jew saying on a news outlet like the atlantic or bloomberg ( i dont remember which one, but something considered MSM) that if the US were to take in all Of the world’s poor, the GDP of the world would quadruple, because they assume that if the US takes them in they will have the same net worth as the average american (56000$, around 700$ for haitian for comparison)

Leftist economics is absolute madness.

"increasing the size of the economy" literally doesnt mean anything

800000 criminals and 300000 fellons out of a population of what? 11 mil?

How is that less than the average white? Maybe compared to niggers theyd be right.

Research shows that OP is a fag

Has one of the highest GDP per capita in the world if I recall

absolute bullshit

I wouldn't be surprised if they cost us a million dollars per illegal, but it's probably even more

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No, because a paki would bring half the subcontinent with him and would then try to blow you up. It does matter where an immigrant is from. If you accept migrants from "shithole countries" you have to be very discerning. And in the case of the paki it makes no odds if he's a brilliant doctor, his imported brood will include jihadi cunts so he isn't worth it.

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On Wikipedia, third-party sources are preferred and required, but citing primary sources is frowned upon.

>Your move, racists.

Using Wikipedia as a source = You, self-BTFO.

Your Battleship = Scuttled.

Your Queen = Date Raped.

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Can't rape the willing.

anything with fifty sources is horseshit
check the Alexander Hamilton page

ministry of truth

you can't say that
that goes against the principles of doublethink

That's what I was thinking. If you average it out, technically their crime rates are almost higher than even urban blacks when you figure for population size.

Trump claims 2-3 million illegals have criminal records. If you use the figure thrown around by the media of 11 million illegals currently present, that makes 27% of illegal immigrants have some sort of criminal record. Just figuring the 800k, that still makes 7%. That's 1 out of every 14 illegals has a criminal record. If trump is right is over 1 out of 4.

Oh but hey, they commit less crime than native born people right?

Wiki is not a credible source. College will not accept it nor high school. Lmao you just exposed how stupid you are by showing this. That's the only thing that was (((btfo))).

They are saying illegal immigrants don’t commit more crime than the native population. This is correct, but misleading because the “native population” includes niggers

Transformed? They always were!

I never knew that, thanks user

>BASED WIKIPEDIA
I think you don't know what "based" means, kiddo

uyo are not korre ct

>increase the size of the economy
Sure, relative to the size of the increase in population. It's kind of like getting a raise, then being forced to spend it on your wife's son.

>contribute to economic growth
See above.

>enhance the welfare of natives
No.

>contribute more in tax revenue than they collect
No. This data manipulation considers only the federal discretionary budgets and the federal income tax. It doesn't consider state and local fiscal impact, or federal entitlements and the payroll tax. The simple fact of the matter is illegals impose a net fiscal loss on the US.

>reduce offshore/import incentives
Sort of, by pushing down local labor costs, but you can't offshore nannies, cleaning ladies, or landscapers.

>reduce prices
Sort of, on the front-end. On the back-end you have higher native unemployment and higher welfare consumption. Why do you think so many employed people are on food stamps and Section 8?

The simple fact of the matter is immigration, whether legal or not, pushes down wages, pushes up rents, and generates economic benefits that accrue only to economic elites while generating economic losses that are suffered only by the poor and the working class.

How can people who are unemployed contribute to the economy?

How long till the kikes moderator changes it

inability to understand sarcasm is a sign of brain damage

>racists
So wanting ilegals out is "racist"?

Done lol

If USA is so great then why doesn't some shithole nation just copy everything USA does?
Rewrite all the laws word-for-word.
Why do they always fall for the commie meme when that never works?

wtf I love open borders now

i thought it was a sign of autism?

Umm no

>economy

how is it any good lmao

liberals unironically believe that because illegals pay sales tax (using money that should've been taxed but wasn't), they are still contributing to the economy

BUILD THE WALL

>trusting wikipedia
Sage all slide threads

kill yourself shill rat

What's saging?

The 'if the GDP goes up, it's better for the people' argument is some of the most retarded shit.

If Mexico were to become part of the USA, the GDP of the USA would increase by a fuck ton. Must mean the social systems the US has wouldn't be taxed at all! America would be better off!

Or in short 'per capita'

Because they're factoring in the general crime rate, which is already high due to niggers. Thing is, if illegals have no effect on crime rate then they are committing a lot of crime since if they weren't the rate would trend down. Imagine if we let in millions of white immigrants, the crime rate would fall.

spend more time lurking before posting on this website

The article isn't talking about Paki's, though. The article is talking about illegal immigrants. 77% of whom are from Central and South America. 65% are from Mexico alone. Why do you think Trump singled out Mexico during his announcement speech way back when? If a Paki wants to come here he has to jump through several hoops just to get to this side of the planet. If a Mexican wants to come here he just has to pay off a smuggler to drive him over the border OR walk across himself at one of the many points that are not watched along the 1,989 mile border.

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