/NCG/ - New California General

/NCG/ - New California General
A place dedicated to watching the progress of the split of California and discussing the state of the movement, as well as creating media to keep the movement alive. Jeffersonians also welcome.

Other urls found in this thread:

foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/27/officials-announce-proposal-that-would-establish-california-as-separate-nation.html
youtu.be/J8fC40inxwk
thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/369302-new-california-campaign-wants-to-create-51st-state-by-splitting-rural
archive.is/wSq8d
cbsnews.com/news/new-california-declares-independence-from-rest-of-state/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Better name or you don't deserve your own state.

Fuck you comifornian

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>trump won't cut funding to all of california
>new california splits off
>we wall them off and nuke them
>trump wins again

They wanna call it Jefferson

>Better name or you don't deserve your own state.
Jefferson State.

Pic related is modeled after Thomas Jefferson's coat of arms.

so let me get this straight
>dems want a new country called Cascadia seceded from California and Oregon
>conservatives in the REST of California want to be a new state
>secession can only be recognized if federal government and state government both agree

So what's stopping Trump from giving them permission to secede as long as we get to keep that place as a new state? We get to keep 50 states while the dems get Cascadia as an Ocean territory. Cali dems get their own country not ran by Trump, republicans get a huge red state and win America back.

Pros:
>Cascadia is the one on the fault line
>acts as a missle shield for America
>huuuuuuuuuuge welfare state gone
>mexicans can go there instead
>we can cut colorado's river from them and only let it go to New California
>dems will inevitably migrate there reddening up other states
>we can wall them off

Seems pretty win win?

2008: Sup Forums shuts down children's website
2016: Sup Forums elects Donald Trump
2018: Sup Forums creates the 51st state

Hopefully 50th if we make a deal to let liberals secede.

>2006, Sup Forums is looked at as a horrible place for dangerous pranks like "make crystals" which results in people dying from creating chemical gas and the exploding spoon thing
>2018, facebook meme pages are promoting eating tide pods and drinking bleach and it's mainstream/laughed at

fucking kek. Sup Forums won the culture wars for sure

Pattonia

two questions

1. is this pretty much gonna be a safe haven for conservatives/libertarians?

2. What exactly is the next step in our master plan? we just need to reach X amount of signatures?

We need to have people email/call their local officials and say they support it. Mayors/councilmen

It depends on how the immigrants vote. There will be a lot of conservatives leaving the coasts coming to the rural areas, that will vote red. So it's gonna be tit for tat, at least purple/swing territory.

>master plan
California isn't going to give it up unless we do something in return for them. Let's combine the old Calexit thing and make a deal. They get a country, we get Cali back.

foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/27/officials-announce-proposal-that-would-establish-california-as-separate-nation.html

You know what, bump. Why not? What's the worst that could happen. Kind of a pipe dream but give it a shot

The United States of America Will NEVER gib away our rightful clay. Stop with your obvious divide and conquer shit.
We need to reeducate, not just give land away, fagnon.

Are you fucking retarded? Give land away? It's already taken. California is and always will be a hard blue state with 55 fucking votes. We are giving NOTHING away. We are planning on taking 85% of it. Carving a big fucking hole into the 55 blue votes, turning it into more like 20, and turning the difference red.

We've done it in the past, we can do it again. Just reconquer it later.

gonna have to word this fuck off. if they want to steal america's land then we'll hang them for treason

Reeducate Californians?
You may not be aware of how lost this place is (Califag here). Not saying secession would solve issue either, but Cali needs so much reform that secession would actually be easier.

Not just "blue state" but "Communist/Socialist state". This place is (gleefully to libs) looking more Socialist than a Marxist third world regime. Seats of Los Angeles, media centers of Hollywood, and port towns (of ridiculous homosexual degeneracy like San Fran) make California the pinnacle state for globalist interests. It is a cascade of degeneracy, propaganda, and decadence.

Then eradicate Hollywood, Los Angeles, San Fransisco, and all non-working negroes, illegal Mexicans, and Jews and no secession necessary.... but tis only a dream *sighs*

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I love this.

I like this.

Get that faggotry out, we aren't taking Sac, San Jose or Santa Clara.

>captcha: coyote mexico

Great idea except they would own the ports. And we need to keep taxing these fucks to oblivion. Only way this works if they make a law that doesn’t allow moving from Comifornia to any other state.

did you even look at the map? the blue is the shitstain leftist state

the area of yolo and woodland just to the west and north of sacramento is very conservative

No Silicon Valley.

I'm saying that's not the correct map.

Californian here anons, don't listen to these faggot trying to predict shit when they don't even live remotely close to here, because of "muh liberals" and "muh unconstitutional laws", these are the faggots who will be the first to be up on the wall for not fighting for family and fatherland.

Now that that is out of the way, New California will be a 100 percent, no doubt about it, redder than the shade of red on the flag. The only blue parts of California are Sacramento, L.A., Ventura, and basically everything seceding. These places are considered "ungovernable" due to their bullshit laws, 3 cities being able to own an entire state due to illegals and niggers, don't pay taxes, most crime infested, most corrupt, and the most controversial. Controversial not as in banning guns, but controversial as in ruining California's economy, gun laws, taxes, and so much more.
Let me give you a prime fucking example of what these Liberal fuck heads do to this one diamond in the pile of pebbles American state.

Agriculture, look up the agricultural laws of California and the bills passed. Now a lot of you are probably underage fags, don't understand or care about economics (im guessing your a commie shill), or don't understand how to even properly plant a fucking seed. The liberals that own the West Bay area are the bane of agriculture of California. They have committed so much to hurt the farmers who have destroyed millions of acres of farm land for their own personal gain. One example is salmon season, California is slightly known for its giant and succulent salmon, and the Liberals are trying to "save" them. They constantly restrict fishing for any type of fish, and especially salmon, why? It is because salmon have disappeared into certain areas of the East and have migrated north. They do not understand this and have passed a bill to where if 500 salmon return to the West Bay area the plan will be considered a success
cont.

Mind you each salmon cost 100 million in total of tax payer dollars, and all the extra water they steal from the farmers for this project, guess what, is thrown right back into the ocean. No they don't try to do anything with it, and have forced even the most oldest of farming communities here use ground water.

Taxes are a giant fucking problem here too. Most Liberal taxes are giant and uneccessary and most of that tax, is to support unions like the black student unions of California, welfare, refugee/sanctuary city resting stops, and so much worst. I had to pay fucking 15 percent tax under the obama bill, on groceries alone, and they have even taxed THE FUCKING FUNDING TO SPACE. All of the tax money here is being wasted, and none of it goes to the people who need it most. This destroys the economy and most people who live out of the cities, are poor and there are some upsides to this. Communities have been restored and people have been getting together to fund each other in a time of need. Fuck sake I asked my neighbor if I could borrow his bmw to go refuel my jerry can, and he fucking trusted me with it. I obviously returned it I have no nigger blood in me. This also leads Liberals to moving out in the country and red spots of California, to escape the hell of the citites that they caused. Every fucking time i see a city boy from LA, Ventura, Pismo, especially Sacramento, I want to ring their necks like a turkey on thanksgiving.

People on Sup Forums say California is a spic and nigger infested hell hole, and that is slightly true to an extent. Yes there are a lot of illegals here, niggers, and sheeboons, but they ALL live in the citites I mentioned before. This will fucking destroy the Liberal part of California, because most funding is from honest working farmers and citizens just trying to raise a family. Its funny and I hate saying this, but I have seen some legal mexicans Americanize here, and fucking ward off the illegals, and I love me a good tamale

bump

In total the New California is a win in the end but at some loses, the area between sacramento and Los Angeles with a lot of water is where most farms get their water. If they take that away they will probably, sell the water to us at a nearly impossible price to pay for tyrese and the seven niglets college. I really push for this idea and you should too faggots, but before we do so there must be a negotiation of the water areas, because that is important for the survival of the economy of California.

tl;dr THIS IS A WIN FAGGOTS NEW CALIFORNIA IS RED AS FUCK

lol you dipshits those blue areas are the richest parts of the state that, along with the federal government, pay to subsidize your shitty rural lifestyle and if you secceed you will be even more dependent on federal subsidies than you are now when blue california no longer has an obligation to uplift you.

I can't wait desu, I hope this goes through.

I hope it does too, and shills like you will be the first on the wall.

Until you realize that they've been using loopholes to put their money into state income tax instead of the federal tax, hence why they're so pissed about the tax bill making it so they can only do that up to 750k.

In other words, they've just been paying it to the state only up until the new tax bill. Retard faggot.

Nah and even if it came to that most of you Sup Forumsocks will stay inside while the actual fighting is done.

Lol that isn't true at all they are butthurt about the tax bill because they have no idea what's in it. But it's nice to know you realize your lifestyle depends on those blue faggots you love to hate on in more ways than one because I wasn't even thinking about this

Nigger if anything you're the one going to stay inside while your shekel pouch fills up. Here's your 0.02 cents nigger enjoy. I am done with you, no facts, no evidence, just insults like a pathetic manlet.

I'm not insulting, I'm trying to nuance the situation because it isn't an easy as just becoming a new state there is a lot of infrastructure and agreements in place that make life the way it is.

Yeah I'm talking shit but that's because Sup Forums is full of shills so I just assume at this point I'm speaking to someone not actually trying to have a conversation.

Alright if so let us conversate then yes? I live in California and I have visited all over the country, San Bern, San Diego, Los Angeles, Sacramento, Orange County, you name it. The Fed is the reason the cities you consider rich, are rich in the first place. People here don't even get attention or help from the Federal government, unless its the obvious like schools, roads, or else the normies would notice something is off. Fucking hell have you looked at the farms here, or meet the farmers/physical labor workers here? Then there is buildings etc, and when they fund schools its heavily appointed to nignogs, hell I remember back in Highschool they gave niggers awards that raised their GPA because they were black. The Feds and the blues do not support this country, any money that can be given to us is pocketed, and we have the usual "support" like I said to keep the normies in line.

Oh, you didn't actually read the tax bill and realize it capped how much you could write off from state/local taxes to your federal tax effectively hurting rich New Yorkers and Californians. My mistake for taking you seriously.

Also thank you for pointing that out user.

So what's the deal with the split? Is one side tired of being force fed illegals or what? Is it like, Upstate and the rest of New York?

Yes, and that the blue area lives by completely different rules, and most people in the yellow are tired of following their unconstitutional laws, and paying for tyrmawshan and his wife tyniqua's 17 niggers

keep the delta.
it is the most important body of water on the west coast and is being dicked around with by dems, we cannot allow them any control over it.

>t. commiefornian mudman from the delta

As long as the fucking mojados are in political control of most of the counties, we don't have a voice. I am not a defeatist, but the spic problem is out of fucking control here. Fucksake, they appointed two illegal aliens to political positions where they can help pass laws. The same as 'what's good for the tribe...'
youtu.be/J8fC40inxwk

Actually yes I did because as a business owner I have to be on the up and up on my taxes. My point was that the subsidies from those cities aren't going to stop because of the tax bill and that the liberals are mad because they don't know what is in the tax bill

Fair enough, still the subsidization is a thing when it comes to the blue collar jobs in most rural areas (farming especially, it is hard for a small time farmer to compete against global entities thus the subsidies aren't really a bad thing IMO.) Maybe in the long run you would be better of but there will be an economic shock when the state actually splits.

It's the same in my home state too, we are predominately red but the few large cities to the north are obviously blue and get almost all of the tax dollars coming from here (though this is coal country so there aren't too many farmers just coal miners moving into factory jobs since the coal mines are still closing.)

Well that is the obvious, our economy will have to adopt to the economic shock ,as did the Thirteen Colonies when we separated from the brits. Also California doesn't live off of the shit like Amazon, Verizon, and stuff like that for taxing it, it lives off entrepenuership like it always has, and also agriculture as I pointed before. Plus I find it unlikely we will not have a civil war against Commiefornia, so if a civil war does happen then we won't have to split, we will just take the land for ourselves and force a new wave of red. Plus there is growing industry in here way more than the blue cities because there is a lack of competition. This will cause a massive industry revolution logically thinking, and usher a new age of tech, if this plan does go through and the ambition of industry is spread quickly enough.

>Retaking the last vestiges of California by force
If only.

OC user providing one last bump. Have my energy.

Best Flag Right Here

We can convince the coast to want separation as well.

Give me some statistics or stuff that would make a liberal want to seperate as well for my fake lib Twitterer

Have a better header image.

WTF this is news already?!
>thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/369302-new-california-campaign-wants-to-create-51st-state-by-splitting-rural
archive.is/wSq8d

Thank you user

So I guess I had some catching up to do on the news.
>"Well, it's been ungovernable for a long time. High taxes, education, you name it, and we're rated around 48th or 50th from a business climate and standpoint in California," said founder Robert Paul Preston.
> cbsnews.com/news/new-california-declares-independence-from-rest-of-state/
Who is this Preston guy?

Last thread died we need to keep this one alive

Yeah, that is where the push for this campaign is coming from. Blue Cali already hates Red Cali and vice versa, we are just going to deepen the divide to break up that 55 votes and make Blue Cali a containment zone.

Bump

>instate border wall
Good One

bump

I have been waiting for this day for my entire life. If this goes through, I can die happy.

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

New California is fucking retarded. It's in our state constitution that we can start a referendum vote. It'd be better to fight for a state-level electoral college for gubernatorial elections.

Do you think the coast would want that?

San Diegan here, pic related is proof

Did you know this meme was created to look right wingers look brain dead? There is a higher chance of Puerto Rico becoming the 51st state, California itself is never splitting, end of story.