Dude communism is evil

>dude communism is evil
>*consumes huge amounts of food while the rest of the world is literally starving to death*

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>all those starving countries are marxist in some way

Kek

>dude capitalism is evil
>*lives in a first world capitalist society*

what does that have to do with anything?

>dude communism doesn't works
>*gets fired from his job*

t. nordestino living on welfare

>i'm responsible for the famine of that people

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I wish every single commie would be put in their dream country. Just give them a lot of lands, funds to get them started, infrastructure and population. For example are you a communist? You can go to that country, so every communist in the world can go.


Fuck me it would be so entertaining to watch it fall apart. Within 15 years it would civil war tier.

>posts a variation of this thread every night

>while the rest of the world is literally starving to death
That's a good thing. Why would you want more rapefugees?

>fundamental misunderstanding of communism

Unsurprising

It's better than race threads

>im not responsible for people worse off than me
>people better off than me are responsible for me

Communism is desirab-

stop breeding if you live in a shithole country

By all means, enlighten me.

And why is that problem of any non starving country? Why should they feel compassionate about other incompetent people leading those countries where people are literally starving?

t. i want rich people to give me their money because they have too much xddd!!!

fuck off with that commie mentality already

He probably is refering to how communism is supposed to be everywhere.

Marxism is an inherently violent ideology, because it advocates that socialism must be forced on everyone, and the utopia communism would eventually follow.

Cuck.

Good thing you're already doing your part

No thank you, I don't want to live in a George Orwell book.

being a cuck is literally the act of sharing the means of production

>when the leftists start using Sup Forumstard vocabularies back at them
Never got this meme

>Give food to Africans
>They plop 5 more kids out each
>Now have 5x the population to feed
wew lad

>i have le monopoly on words!!
Doesn't even deserve a brainlet.

You seem to be confused about my motives. I'm a petit-borgeois, landlord and student. I'm rather confortable, and I consider myself lucky to be able to contribute to society, specially the poorest. I suffer a cringe reflex next to communist apologists, because they tend to be the sort of people that are keen to whine about what society owes them, but are shy about telling what exactly they do to help the ranks below them.

Communism is not even an ideology. It's a description of the movement against capitalism by the proletariat, which arises as a result of capitalism itself.

Like Marx said, it's not 'an ideal to which reality will have to adjust'. It arises naturally out of present conditions. A bunch of people don't say 'let's do communism' and then do communism. That's not how capitalism was born and rose to become the dominant economic system. It rose through centuries of class struggle, violence, and warfare. There was no 'capitalist program' laid down and followed. Same for communism.

And yeah, for what it's worth, socialism is 'inherently violent' just like capitalism is.

>There are unironical marxists browsing this board

Both uses are retarded is what I meant. Two groups of runts using the same techniques but with different ideologies.

>let's all starve together
Wow... capitalists btfo

if you are too worry about kids starving then donate your salary collectivist retard

>making things up because you're asshurt

>dude feudalism is evil
>lives in a feudalist society

No, socialist political economies depend on the amassed capital of the existing society, just like how capitalism developed from feudalist infrastructure. It makes no sense to speak of "starting over" with a new ideology, communism is just the description of the thing we should do now from this position.

You're a Bookchin memer, I take it.

How is your alliance with the US going lol

>deliberately knock over my stack of blocks
>'haha yours sucks'

>two sides trying to knock each others blocks over
>one side does
>"You only won because you knocked by blocks over"

Thinking that communism actually leads to anything other than economic collapse for a country, is a classic misinterpretation of what politically illiterate people think communism is. They’re usually big fans of the Soviet Union, Lenin and Karl Marx too.

I'm just saying communism doesn't actually reliably lead to starvation absent a military blockade.

I have a lefty communist story to tell
>Have friend whose brother is of Greek descent
>grandparents fled Greece in the 50's during civil war
>3 of grandfather's brothers were killed by communists
>village burned to ground by Marxists
>Me, friend, and friends brother shooting the shit on discord
>get political
>I lean right of center, friend is Bernie bot, friends brother communist sympathizer (it's not that bad, never been implemented, state capitalism, meme tier arguments)
>ask friends brother if he thinks that people should be more open to communism
>says yes
>ask him why he doesn't ask his grandfather to be more open to the idea
>radio silence

It's like c*mmies forget that people experience the violent and repressive policies that they, the Marxists, argue for.

I feel like I'm having a stroke.

>tfw you realize that this board isn't becoming overwhelmingly communist, it's just the perception of threads is skewed because so many remake the same thread repeatedly since they don't do anything else

Just like the Sup Forums kekistanis, just a vocal minority.

And then everyone applauded?

>What is the great leap forward
>What is the Holodomor

>he posts the same thing hundreds of times any time it appears that Sup Forums might not be his personal neoliberal safespace

>gommunism is when da gubmint dues stuff

I bet you'd consider yourself even luckier if you were still living under fascism you fuck

Show me a communist country that wasn't a starving shithole absent receiving a large amount of gibs from SU and/or china (a la the earlier days of NK or east germany)

There really is no need to defend capitalism anymore after the collapse of the USSR and their satellites and China going capitalist too.

Western "commies" are really just young people in a rebellious phase and will eventually settle down as center-left welfare state people

>guvemont didnu nufin
>the poeople stareved themselves
:-DDD

You don’t need to be a liberal to realize that communism is in general a terrible idea. It only really works for countries with large populations that are prepared to work primary sector jobs.

>der woldnt be a famin under da tsarisds!! neolibrilism woud save ucrane!!

>Prevalence of undernourishment in 2000: 14.7%
>Prevalence of undernourishment in 2015: 10%
>Extreme poverty in 2000: 30%
>Extreme poverty in 2015: 10%
>Wew guys, capitalism is evil, think of the starving children
Why communist can't even build a legit argument that isn't flawed, statistically disproved, appeal to emotion?

I posted it once?
Not saying it's a safespace I just mean that all the nazi and communist threads/posts start to follow a pattern and you realize it's just a handful of extreme neets, not 1000 nazis or 1000 communists.

It's just startling to think "Wow these nazis are really getting numbers" but you realize it's 5 people making 95% of the threads as with communism herd.

All (You).

Holodomor was exacerbated by kulaks burning their fields, and the great chinese famine (I assume you're referring to) was bad yeah, but 1: wasn't caused by collectivization or any marxist theory, but by the three pests campaign and the backyard steel production. 2: wasn't beyond the pale compared to previous famines, and 3. you've now gone from "communism always creates famine" to two famines.

>he doesdnt liek gomunism he must like fuedilisim

You have posted that exact thing before, not him but I've seen you. Everyone knows the autistic anticommunist leaf.

>people didn't starve to death because of communism

Wait, what? Japan wasn't communist in 2000

wtf?

>revolution is violent
>no way

>absent receiving a large amount of gibs from SU

Is that an admittance that the USSR wasn't a starving shithole?

i eat about 1000 calories a day ya dingaling

>more people didn't starve to death because of capitalism

Nope.

It's autistic to disagree with you or point out obviously true things? There's a,small handful of nazi shitposters on this board which I'm sure you'll agree so how is that different from communist shitposters? - because "muh group mighty other group weak"?

also a good point, hunger exists in the west now, there are just no breadlines because there's no one giving away bread.

>you've now gone from "communism always creates famine" to two famines.
It's world statistics in a capitalistic system.
See, less people are starving and being poor as time goes by in a capitalistic world.
Maybe arguing that capitalism is bad because people don't get food is flawed.
That was my point.

>he believes this

The difference is they're nazis. What they say is both evil and untrue. Not only are communists actually RIGHT about who runs the world and controls the banks and, our goals are just.

t.brainlet
>collectivization was poorly carried out, removal of economic incentive for peasants to work harder to produce more grain. collective farmed were also poorly managed because all the owners were purged
>but muh kulaks, the term "kulak" was extremely widely applied, and included peasants who had private farm animals, who owned property, and who had a mill or barn
>unrealistic central planning, stalin's 5 year plan called for extremely rapid growth in agricultural production.
>inflated yield reporting because if you didn't report the expected yield you'd be punished
>basing actions on the inflated yields the soviets exported million of tons of grain which could have ended the famine
>when less grain than expected was collected, soviets sent soldiers to confiscate grain that didn't exist. causing seed stocks to often be confiscated, which lowered yields further

A Sup Forumstard would say
>The difference is they're jews. What they say is both evil and untrue. Not only are national socialists actually RIGHT about who runs the world and controls the banks and, our goals are just.

>garl margs specifigally says: kills dah ukranians i no liek dem :DD :D

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines

Not even getting into malnourishment deaths outside huge famines

Socialism doesn't work.

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Yes, but you should be able to tell which one of us is right. Why can't you?

>hayek
le trash man

>try not to cringe

I can't because you use the same retarded half-lies and techniques of ""debate""" on this board. Both seem idiotic.

Not an argument.

>le HOARSHU XD

I'm actually willing to team up with Nazis to get rid of lolbertarians and libshits

AUTISTS GET OUT

>Is that an admittance that the USSR wasn't a starving shithole?
No, it's fairly well established that the USSR as a starving shithole, especially so if you happened to live in one of the -stans.

HOW can you think the two claims are equivalent?

You really can't decide whether it's jews or rich people who control the government and banks?

How does it feel knowing that throughout your lifetime free market capitalism will dominate?

Feels great desu.

BUT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE WORLD AND JUDGE THE TWO CLAIMS BASED ON WHAT YOU SEE

>No, it's fairly well established that the USSR as a starving shithole

No it isn't.

Do you guys really think these threads raise class consciousness instead of just annoying people?

Of course not, without the social safeties I enjoyed when I was weak, I would've been ruined for life. I want to pay back to society.

Their lowest-quartile standard of living was consistently higher than in the US after the 30s, and the average all-working-class SoL was actually higher in USSR in the 50s and 60s.

Why are you changing the subject now?

Defend this >There's a,small handful of nazi shitposters on this board which I'm sure you'll agree so how is that different from communist shitposters? - because "muh group mighty other group weak"?
>A Sup Forumstard would say
>The difference is they're jews. What they say is both evil and untrue. Not only are national socialists actually RIGHT about who runs the world and controls the banks and, our goals are just.

euromaidanpress.com/2017/02/06/russians-consume-700-calories-a-day-fewer-now-than-at-the-end-of-soviet-times/#arvlbdata

>Russians now consume 700 calories fewer each day than they did in 1991, something that has dropped their world ranking from 7th to 71st place among countries of the world and putting them at the level of “most African countries.”

The glorious free market has ironically turned Russia into a nigger tier country

Based liberalism.

>when you nod your head in amazement while visiting a grocery store

>id vas de fri margets faolt

>It's the free market fault
>Not the total collapse of the previous economic system that was basically an inflated bubble

Meanwhile, east germany and poland are thriving, under healthy mixed market-based economies.

Russia's oligarchs today were the friends of the socialist state yeasterday.

I defend by pointing out that the posting style is incredibly noticeable and that there's a handful of posters here who make these threads and posts.

The exact same type of arguments everytime in these threads too. In fact if you image search in archive the images in these threads you find that the same posted the same image with the same filename in similar topics numerous times before. These threads dont even belong here, it's

Yeltsin was a drunk senile idiot who didn't realize the for-profit food distribution system allows tons of expensive food to be piled in one area without being quickly taken home, since each person restricts their own buying based on price.

Basically he didn't appreciate the fundamental difference that our system has internal passports for commodities allowing them to be piled impressively at various points while at the same time most people don't get as much as that would imply.

Yelsin was a borderline retard we installed as a parnk.

>still blaming the shock of the collapse 26 years later

Ehh

>USSR

That makes no fucking sense, communism isn't a bubble. Communism CAN'T be a bubble, of all criticisms you might try to make.

That's not the fucking point and you know it.

You said there was no way to know whether their or our theory about who runs the world is more correct. You actually claimed jews controlling the world was as plausible as the rich controlling it.