When the United States does have its Civil War

How many of you will stand by the ideals of our Founders and save the Republic?

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Hopefully nobody here is interested in that Masonic BS again.

We need to restore Western Monarchy or better a new Roman Empire under a new Overman God Emperor. Republicanism is Kushite degeneracy aka for faggots.

>Masonic BS again.
The Founders were not Masons

>How many of you will stand by the ideals of our Founders
Last time we tried that the yanks didn't like it.

zero
> american national socialism

Masons and the luciferian mindset are 2 seperate things.

The Jews manipulate the knowledge of the Luciferian mindset in order to enslave people. The evil is within those humans though, not within the truth of our reality.

Fuck that noise, we are gonna Balkanize into several “super states” and territories. The dark times are inevitable

I will by the white race

I will die to protect it because many others have died doing so

Don't be a fag user, listen to Davis and Lee and come home

Look at where those deaths got us, niggers drink from the same fountains as humans for Christ’s sake!

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I am willing to fight for the founding fathers not some niggers

>He actually thinks National Socialism can work in the United States
Maybe a small section of the country, but it'll never work the whole of the country

My grave is less than 200 feet from Jefferson Davis's.

I hates the yankee nation and everything they do.
I hates the declaration of independence, too.
I hates the glorious union, t'is dripping with our blood.
I hates the striped banner, and fit it all I could

I stand and fight for my family first, and the dream second, nation has nothing to do with it.

>dumb ass thinks america as we know will last
this ship has sank... the future is what we make of it after the fall

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Perfect picture, stay white comrade.

I'll stand by the ideals and oppose the commie scum trying to instigate their own approved form of totalitarianism.

Exactly, which is why consolidating and preparing is crucial

>ideals of our Founders
Go read the Declaration of Independence and come back and tell me we shouldn't just split up. The US can't govern itself effectively anymore and natural god given rights keep getting eroded to acommodate our differences and diversity especially where there's nowhere near a consensus on anything anymore.
The Founding Fathers would be astounded the US has even lasted as long as it has the way we have.

>He won't protect the ideals of the Founders
Why? Do you guys honestly think, right now, we're achieving full on ideal status? Everything is fucked right now you can't possibly believe right now we're living the Founders Dreams

heil victory

This, democracy and "freedom" lead us to this mess. Jews can only infiltrate a already degenerate people "as a non degenerate would see them for what they are, and refuse entry" they only make things worse. Monarchy, Fascism, National Socialism, Empire, anything that applies itself to the the traditional worldview is better than what we have now.

And before you start sperging out about National Socialism and Fascism being " modern tooooo XDDDD" reminder that its only the traditional worldview that matters i.e "anti egalitarianism, tribalism, spiritualism, that matters" Nat-Soc and Fascism is just the modern revival of traditional values.

>A paper declaring independence from another nation means we shouldn't exist
Nice logic user

Our founding fathers didn't want women, non property owners, and niggers voting, and I'd be happy to fight to get back to that.

>democracy
I hate this US is a Democracy meme. The Founders hated Democracy. Remember that anti-miscegenation laws were legal when the Founders were alive

he's right you know maymo with some freckled negro

The only problem with the idea of a Democratic Republic was that we gave too much room for change and women destroyed it all by being manipulable retards. It can be fixed.

based if we stay a republic
> white male property owner with kids that serve the nation..." in some form or maner" should only be able to vote

It declared the colonies as free and independent states as they were referred to that way again in the Treaty of Paris in 1783 where Britian recognized them as such. The term united states is used but in reference to an informal coalition at the time. The US per se was never formalized til the Articles of Confederation and even then it sucked so we had to centralized more with the (illegally adopted) Constitution that was built around numerous shaky compromises.
This is why the Declaration of Independence continued to be important for so long instead of just a historic relic as it espouses enduring core principles over just simple independence from a tyrannical king.

According to leftists the founding fathers were Nazis so I guess I'm a Nazi

I know I have an obligation to fight for the republic. I also have a responsibility to care for my family, who heavily relies on me for their needs and wants.

I have already spoken to National Guard and Air Force recruiting folks about my family dynamics and was told it's not in the interest of the nation to have a guy like me in our situation inducted.

So, military service is absolutely not happening. So, I guess it's medical or weapons manufacturing support services for me.

Even the whole "all white men created equal" is faggotry, and it WAS a democracy, just at first it was meant only for white men. Still a massive improvement over what we have now, But not good enough, Democracy always leads to degeneracy, its pretty obious that when you declare one group of people as "equal" that the natural progression is to give more rights to even more groups and declare them "equal" as well. Don't agree with me? just look at the history of the our country and the rest of the democratic countries in the world and their history.

>giving your life to preserve a nigger infested shithole
Nope. I'm going to be fighting to found an entirely new country, you fucking bbc loving cucked pleb.

The same thing will happen again if we go the democratic route. Constitutional Fascism is the way forward. It can even use many of the parts of the Current constitution.

We will take whatever is possible.
And alot is possible.

Equality is an excuse to steal power from those who deserve it and give it away to those who don't.

The funny thing is that "all men are created equal" originally was just a refutation of the so called "divine right of kings" the idea that God handpicks certain people to rule over everyone else and can be as arbitrary as they want. That's why it's "created" equal, the Declaration of Independence mentions God several times and it makes sense given all the bitching about the king.

>Federal Government : If you don't let us rob and enslave you, you're a treasonous unpatriotic terrorist!
>mfw

The moment I have the opportunity to join an armed popular revolution to liberate the State of Texas from the Federal Occupation Government, I will. Feel free to put that in your logbook, NSA.

Oh yeah, the idea that if means anything else is a mandela effect started by British abolitionists.

>Joining
You can do so much damage alone.

NRM shits on both of them Aesthetics-wise

What will you faggots do once you're free? Just invite more niggers and spics, because of a lack of military and economy? This whole texas independence thing is fucking stupid everytime I hear it.

I'm only third generation in this country and my reward for being an american was having half my cock ripped off by some doctor when I was a newborn. Fuck fighting for america or its values.

Deport them all since the US won't do it while confiscating all their assets to whites and have a whites only immigration policy. Texas has plenty of resources.

>the ideals of our Founders and save the Republic?
im sure that if the British founders of America could see it today with it's half&half people posting nonsense on anime imageboards they wouldn't have bothered remember Americans diversity is your strength now

>It can even use many of the parts of the Current constitution.
How do you figure that? I'm just curious, because I've always found the notion of a sort of American-style fascism interesting (whereas most fascists I've come across just want to burn the whole thing down and toss absolutely everything into the trash).

>lack of military
>lack of economy

Texas has the ninth largest economy in the world, and would have the 5th most well-funded military in the world if it spent the global average of 4% of GDP on defense.

We'd have little to no regulatory apparatus and a flat ad valorem tax rate of ~5% - and would thereby be infinitely better off than we are now. If you're against Texan independence you're against Texan prosperity and freedom. It's no surprise that out-of-staters and pro-federal shills are the biggest anti-independence forces.

I'm not joking and yall can TFW not eternally resting next to Jefferson Davis TF out of here.

Founders were Freemasons, ie traitorous servants of the Semitic hegemony whose long-term goal has been the establishment of a New Jerusalem with DC as the Temple. The amalgam of political ideas leading to American Republicanism are progressive nonsense based in the Semitic ideology of Christianity and therefore incapable of working as the basis for a noble society. The only future for America other than annihilation is a complete sundering and reorganization based on establishing cultural enclaves as colonies of European nations such that we can be purified genetically and culturally over successive generations.

We will restore it to a white ethnostate like originally intended with its founding.

That may be true, but it still doesn't change the fact that America was a Democracy, where white men could all "equally" decide to vote for leadership. Unless you were a slave, if you were white you were considered "equal" back then. This might not seem like its too bad, but this would be commie tier subversive garbage for the people in Europe at the time, and eventually leads to what we have now.

I'm not anti independence I am anti fucking up your country. Independent or not Texas is still a part of America and always will be. Just caring for my brothers down south mate. Also if thats the case go for it, but I find it unlikely Texas will not be in an alliance with America and trading a lot with America. And if Texas influence is great enough it could probably save America. Think of it as a third plan z to when a through z fails 3 times.

>Faggot in this thread actually think what I meant was saving civic nationalism and not the true foundation the Constitution was written for
Bunch of fucking retards, all of you

And that's what the stuff about throwing off shitty subverted government also found in the declaration is for.

Agreed. Democracy = Plutocracy
We need Absolute Hereditary Monarchy

Except don't call it an Emperor or King. Call it a Consul, and than when the first Consul dies his son becomes Consul, and so on.

>armed popular revolution to liberate the State of Texas

Fort Worth checking in

why cant u burgers be more like papa???

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We were the subversive ones, democracy and egalitarianism for whites were the communism of their day, things have just gotten so bad now that they seem good in comparison.

I will cross the Rubicon.

>We need to restore Western Monarchy

Tar and feather yourself

1776 is over... but you should start recruiting for 2050

>This is what Washington's Ideology lead to.

>He actually thinks Washington's ideology led to this and it wasn't distorted and bastardized along the way
Great logic there bro. What other incredible insights do you have?

I'd rather fall than stay united with those who would rape and slaughter my children.

If you honest to God that I want to save this civic nationalist democracy then you're mistaken
I want to save the Republic that the Founders believed in

>Its not a natural progression overtime, that eventually degenerates enough on its own to the point that even Jewish Marxists are accepted.

Inb4 greatest ally

He was a Freemason; this is the exact outcome all of the Founders were working toward.

freedoms were a mistake

Do you have proof to back that up you absolute fucking retard?

That republic was lost over 150 years ago.

And that means we can't fight for it?

Christians are servants of the Semitic race who destroyed the cultures of Europe at the behest of Jewish masters, then established a Jew-controlled nation in the Americas to serve as the seat of power for the new era of global Semitic hegemony. The world we see today is exactly what the Founders were seeking to achieve.

So you don't have proof the Founding Fathers were Masons?

I was born here and I'll die here

Pretty much yeah. What percent of this country is even intellectually capable of considering the idea that the federal government has in general accumulated far more numerous and far reaching powers than it was ever supposed to have? 1 percent, maybe? A reformation this does not make. It would be better if the whole thing just burned down, and those who were capable of surviving construct the next world better.

Other than their constant usage of Masonic gestures in portraits as well as the immense proliferation of Masonic symbols in the capitol?
You will find NO ONE who denies that the Founders were Freemasons, only those who deny that Freemasonry is a cult of submission to the Semitic hegemony which exceeds even the treasonous nature of the Christian religion.

>It's gone so we should just replace it
Nice fucking logic

Again, you have no proof they were Masons. Go LARP somewhere else

Kill yourself and let us count one less servant of the kikes

If you set it up as it was before, it will fall the same way. No half measures this time.

Oh no he's posing! Quick, burn the Constitution!

It was working fine, that's like saying we shouldn't do anything because something will eventually happen.

It was working fine right up until it didn't, like most faulty designs. Something lasts less than 100 years before becoming a twisted monstrous parody of itself and you think it's worth resetting?

Posing making a gesture indicative of membership in a Masonic lodge.
history.com/this-day-in-history/washington-becomes-master-mason

You are the reason this country is shit. You believe in the lies that make our people weak.

>The Masons of the 18th century adhered to liberal democratic principles that included religious toleration, loyalty to local government, and the importance of charity.

Again you can literally say that about anything. Monarchs, Communism, Dictatorships, etc.

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Quoting random shit so you don't have to address the fact that you tried to deny he was a Mason? How pathetic. What else is to be expected from a retard though.

It was in the article that you linked

Tell me, who hires people to shill for Constitutionalism? I refuse to believe you're capable of using a computer yet being too dense to understand that esoteric organizations don't announce their agendas directly and their members don't announce that they intend to sell their countrymen into slavery to a Semitic hegemony. If you're not a paid poster, you need to stop posting for a few years until you understand the history of this world and who is really in control.

Listen faggot, unlike some LARPing meme flaggot I actually love the Constitution and the Founding Fathers and the ideals they advocated. I already know the Jews run the world and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure the out. It also doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that National Socialism and Fascism would not work in the United States because of they've never been tried on our continent. They wouldn't even work in Canada. These are uniquely European ideologies.
Every nation has its ideal system of government and what you're offering would not work for the United States

White Americans are Europeans and thus European ideologies are the only ones which can work for us. In fact, European ideologies are the only ones which work at all. Americanism is a false ideology which leads to the result we see today. Non-Europeans must be ejected or exterminated, but cannot remain in our societies. This applies genetically and culturally, although there is truly no difference between the two.

Your love for the Founding Fathers is the exact type of folly that sustains the Semitic hegemony. Your rejection of European ideology marks you as nothing more than a race traitor to be slaughtered along with your Semitic masters.

If the founders approve of the NAP then sure

>the ideals of our Founders
the new world was founded on the delusions of pious, puritan pioneers