Why does Monogatari tell its story out of order?

Why does Monogatari tell its story out of order?

Because it's 2deep4u

No idea, I felt completely lost until I watched Kizu 1-2-3.

It doesn't matter why, but it's still your fault.

Ya cause no other franchise has ever done that before

Not to this degree

Pretentiousness

...

This.

Art for the sake of art is not art.

It's Araragi and/or other characters telling the stories as they feel like. Eg. Araragi telling Kizu after the start of the series because he wasn't comfortable talking about it before.

When is part 3 of Kizu coming out?

BD's are coming out early July I think, so it should come online around then too

I find it weird how Monogatari, despite being rather mainstream, still manages to turn off such a large crowd of people. A lot of normalfag "weeb" acquaintances of mine couldn't watch it and got mad during the first couple of episodes. I had an all bravado tough guy mention that he can handle virtually anything only to drop it 20 seconds into the 1st episode.
Isn't that weird? It's like a filter.

Literally because Haruhi did it

Nigga, all of haruhis first season was out of order.

Maybe it's because of the fact that it's a very slow-paced and dialogue-heavy series. Also maybe the odd art style is also a turn off though I really like it.

Same happened here, one guy who streams like 6 anime at the time, literally watches 32 animes per season, even all the absolute trash you can imagine, dropped it after the first episode too.

Also note that I consider him a shounen fag and his taste so fucking shit too

Also fanservice and inconsistent storytelling.

>Streams

Perhaps because it is shit.

They need some plot mystery on this shallow franchise

I feel like Bake is the most normalfag friendly show out of all of them except maybe second season. They'd probably have a heart attack from some of the Nise or Tsuki scenes

Why is there so much Monogatari?

Like Jesus Christ, I enjoyed watching through the first few seasons and working through the content at first, but after feeling like I've gone through a good bit I decide to check back on my progress and realize I haven't even made it through half of the aired content yet.

It makes sense if you watch it all

Because nisio is a graphomaniac.

I feel the unique dialogue and art are what make the series.
But thats jus me

Have you forgotten that scene where Nadeko gets throatfucked by Jagirinawa?

They screened in some US theatres last month. BD should be soon I thinking

Guess the author took a page out of Pulp Fiction

I'm a fucking dentistry student and i whenever i have to teach preschool kids how to brush their tooth i remember this scene. Fucking anime ruined my life. But i still love monogatari, great show with great story and even if it's only a few, great boners too.

Because it's what all the Boogiepop wannabes did.

>Haruhi
>Baccano!
etc

Because piecing events together is fun.

That was just Kyoanus shitty adaptation

Monogatari at least makes some sense, even out of order.

Characters are introduced in such a way that they'll never show you an interaction between people you don't know. Even if it's not "the first time they've met," as is the case for Shinobu or Oshino, that doesn't mean they aren't introduced as relevant parts of the story, and it doesn't matter how Araragi knows about them.

Never felt lost at all, except for when Shinobu first talks and is revealed to be in his shadow.

how does it feel to have someone brush your teeth for you

Well, we have done that too, if it's gentle and looking at your eyes it- STOP RUINING MY LIFE ANIME

>"I'm too stupid to follow a disjointed timeline"
Never try reading books

The order isnt really that bad. Most of the out of order-ness are just prequels that go at the very start of the timeline, and the only ones that might be remotely confusing timewise are the SS arcs/Hana. Looking at the main works, Bake -> Nise -> SS -> Owari all have matching chronological and release order.

Why is OP's life out of order?

That scene when shinobu talks for the 1st time was great. You spend almost 20 episodes with her basically mute, and out of fucking nowhere, she ends up being one of the most fun character in the show.
But to go back to the original point, I think that Bakemonogatari (and all of its declination) did the whole out of order thing pretty well.
If you read the book, you get that feeling even more, because there's a lot of throw back to events you've never seen in it too. It doesn't hinder the understanding of the story, but it creates an interesting world, where a lot of things ends up being tied.
The S2 shows that pretty well.
And for the normie-repellent aspect, I guess it's because it's a pretty heavy dialogue and story oriented show, the normies need their action scene to be satisfied.

Monogatari is the Kingdom Hearts of anime. Retcons everywhere, time travel shenanigans, a cast of characters that never seems to stop growing and it's liked by edgy teenagers due to its pretentiousness.

I still like it just like the rest of you do

Because Shart is a retard slave studio.

>Shaft made the Monogatari series
you dumbass

I wish hitagi didn't cut her hair

>"I'm too stupid to know what pretentious means"
It's ok user, you can admit you have a shitty grasp on the English language

It always surprises me when someone complains about Monogatari not being chronological. Is their exposure to mediums of storytelling really that shallow? How does one manage such a feat in a world where entertainment is dominated by those mediums? Achronological storytelling is bread and butter, and it's nothing more than the removal of an unnecessary restriction on the writing, allowing the author either to tell a story in a way that's closer to how they want to, or to tell a story that simply cannot be told chronologically.

You can just imagine that there's a "main" story line going on with the books that are "out of order" being flashback/backstory volumes.

Sup Forums elitists always claim the Monogatari series is a normalfag series. How is this even remotely the case? I'd consider DBZ, One Piece, SAO, AOT, Re:Zero and the likes normalfag series and they are all worlds apart from Monogatari. Is this just another one of those things the edgy 17 year olds that browse this site say trying to justify their elitism like with the 3x3 threads?

>Muh obscure taste get out norman reee

It's literally the bestselling anime of all time. Most people who are into anime are Japanese. Ergo: normalfag series.

This.

There's a difference between not liking something and not understanding it. You can't write off every criticism in life with "You just don't get it" you fucking teenagers.

>streams
>his taste so fucking shit too
Who would of thought.

only ss was out of order

unless it's for their kids I don't think normalfags buy anime

I don't think that's a very good way to measure how much of a normalfag series it is. By that logic DBZ/OP/SAO etc etc wouldn't be considered normalfag series or not as much? There are too many things to factor in such as availability, price, advertising, etc. Comparing the West to the Japs also isn't a very good way to measure it. They are far more likely to purchase Blu-rays/DVDs and less likely to stream like the western normalfags do.

Reddit and my anime list love it despite not understanding it in the slightest.
They actually think Araragi and Crab is a good relationship and are in true love. I just don't understand how anyone could be so deluded.

I went into this series thinking nadeko would be best girl
I was very wrong

I wanted to pick it up though, is it actually good? Will I like it if my favorite manga/anime are Genshiken, Angel's Egg, Yokohama Kaidashi Kikō and Lain?

Reddit and MAL are deluded about 95% of the time. This is not an isolated case.

It's to draw your attention away from the story itself, because it's all about the characters.

It's a fun time but it's no where near edgy enough for the like of you.

I just started it a few weeks ago
I'm watching nekomonogatari kuro right now
I enjoy it quite a bit
I see how people say it's pretentious but the artstyle is nice, the girls are cute, and the fanservice is good.

Couldn't self insert into a character who got a gf within the first couple of episodes and still had a harem, Most likely the reason why

>the things that make it unique are what make it unique

no shit user

Why does the fanservise stop in the recent series? Owari's only fan service was monkey for 30 seconds.

best

>what make the series
He didn't say that's what make it unique he said that's what makes it good

t.catshitter

>normie friendly
>bath scenes

Reminder that Kagari is a slut that likes older men dicks

Bakemonogatari - (2009-2010) - 15 episodes
Nisemonogatari - (2012) - 11 episodes
Nekomonogatari - (2012) - 4 episodes
Monogatari 2nd Season - (2013) - 26 episodes
Hanamonogatari - (2014) - 5 episodes
Tsukimonogatari - (2014) - 4 episodes
Owarimonogatari - (2015) - 13 episodes
Koyomimonogatari - (2016) - 12 shorts
Kizumonogatari - (2016 - 2017) - 3 movies

Total - 78 episodes / 12 shorts / 3 movies
It isn't that long.

Wasn't the Baccano LN actually chronological order? Wasn't it just the anime that mixed the stories of the first three books?

Same, when I rewatched Nisemonogatari all I could think about were the brushing techniques

"Pretentious" is the ultimate meme criticism. Calling something pretentious is admission that you lack the capacity or the ability to express why you didn't like something.
I am actually fucking angry that idiots in this thread are insinuating that non-linear narratives and new-wave direction is intrinsically pretentious. Neck yourselves.

don't be silly user, they have the ability to express why they don't like it, they are just lazy and saying it's "pretentious" is easy and gets the job done

Shinobufag here, but I also don't realy like crab

Literally no one does

Hey, I like crab. The one I don't like is snake.

>hating any of the girls

The only girl I could hate was Snake when she went full batshit insane but after ((Kaiki)) helped her you can sorta see why it happened. Other than that all the girls are great.

aww yea

It's pretty long for what it is. There aren't many series in the past 8 years that are pushing 100 episodes that aren't for kids or family shows.

Not that I'm complaining, I'd always hoped this would be the case but even 50 episode anime are rare. I'm not sure what standard you're using but, yeah, monogatari is pretty long by any reasonable standard I can think of. And also very dense, it doesn't get it's length through filler and padding.

Ironically I've actually spent more time reading novels than watching anime. Nisio's work is not deep m8, it's pandering of the highest order

>Nisio's work is not deep m8
No one has claimed this fagtron

>Anime? Pssch. I READ and I GAME.

The author makes shit up as he goes.

>pretentious = edgy

Monogatari confirmed pleb filter.

Nise's Vertical cover us much better than the Bake covers.

Shaft signed a contract.

/\0_w_0/\

So? There are lot of Gundams and K-On (which is shown on the Japanese Disney Channel) on that list too.

Is katanagatari the best monogatari?

July

How is nonlinear storytelling an attempt at being "deep"? Do you even know what pretentious means?

yes

Monogatari has some things most anime don't
>Heavy in dialog
>Unreliable narrator
>STRONG visual motifs (constantly riffs off of the French New Wave movement)
>A main character that solves problems not by being a badass, but by getting help the majority of the time
>A very limited cast
>No one-shot episodes (except Koyomigatari)
>Every character has massive glaring character flaws that aren't just there to make them endearing
The thing about Monogatari is it sucks at being an "anime" a lot of the time. Sure, Kizumonogatari is pretty run of the mill, but it lacks the "Believe in yourself, YOU CAN DO IT!" or "Friendship is Magic!" or "Everything is shit! Let's make it more shit!" kinds of narrative most anime has. If you go into on the premise of "Araragi, a part human part vampie chained to a loli-vampie, defeats monsters." you would have no fucking understanding of the show.
Yeah, sure, it has tons of Ecchi, but it's... I don't know, not really the same as if you were watching an actual Ecchi.

It also doesn't help that a large part of the dialog in Monogatari is literally discussing how to be mature. The show blatantly thumbs it's nose at tropes of "true love" and "a relationship can get through anything!" or "you're fine the way you are!"
>Senjougahara blatantly tells Araragi that if someone who came along that was 100% compatible with her than him she'd leave in a heartbeat
>Subaru and Hanekawa both get told, in no uncertain terms, they can't fucking have what they want
>Araragi's relationship with Senjougahara explores how lovers are supposed to better one another
>Araragi's relationship with Shinobu explores the loyalty of two people intimately tied to one another

I dunno, maybe I'm looking into it too much, I really like Monogatari. Or maybe it's just a show that people who don't value maturity or something like that fucking hate. I mean how his weeb friend hates it, christ, if 32 animus a season doesn't scream manchild what does?

>Sure, Kizumonogatari
Correction, meant Nisemonogatari.
The season that was never meant to exist

Retcons. You think he had this all planned out?

>You'll never be this mad.

>"It's trying to hard to be pretentious and deep"

How the fuck do people think this? It's the complete opposite.
This anime is literally "Exposition - the show". Everything is spelled out directly to the audience. Entire episodes and monologues dedicated to explaining what's going on.

It's just a vehicle for fanservice and funny dialog. I don't see were the hysterical hate comes from.

Remember gore spam when Bake aired? I can't even begin to understand how do people get so irate by something so inoffensive.

watch Baccano! kid
the fucking ending is in the opening

Anime fans have been conditioned to think that weird visuals are always "symbolism."