Is Trump to blame for the shutdown?

I've seen a lot of americans blaming Trump. However, aren't the dems (and a few RINOS) the ones that voted no?
I am missing something from burger politics?

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>I am missing something from burger politics?
the average twitter user is a low IQ subhuman retard

bump, voted dems

Democraps are just doing what their far-left base wants, congress Republicans literally have no excuse, they are TRAITORS.

Voted dems. You Nazis forgot about us. This is a JIDF board now.

uh

Doesn't matter
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I can understand some people blaming the gop over some rinos. But how is this Trump's fault? He doesn't control congress.

You did get digits but I hate to day it it still looks like you are retarded. What did kek mean by giving you digits on top of such a bad post? Is it a commentary of the absurdity of the debate? I'm not sure we can get to the bottom of it while jews are still controlling the narrative.

using their Chinese voting bots again I see.

This is escalating quickly

bump turn this poll around Sup Forums#

FUCK DRUMPF

Democrats are the blame!

WHY DIDNT TRUMP MAKE THE DEMOCRATS VOTE FOR THE BILL THIS IS HIS FAULT REEEEEEE

Kinda hard not to. They had a compromise that would let him start the wall, end the lottery system and limit chain migration but he blew it all up because he got mad about that porn star he fucked twelve years ago. Now they'll probably send a worse bill to his desk and he'll sign it because he wants to go back to mar-a-lago.

Bumpito

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The Democrats are to blame. A totally reasonable budget passed the House, and they sweetened the deal for everyone with a 6 year extension to CHIP, the children's health insurance program, which is fully supported by Trump not to mention CHIP has bipartisan support among the public.

And Dems still voted no. They sold American children down the river because they didn't get protections for illegal Mexican children.

POL CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE IF WE JUST TRYYYYYYY

that original bill was a lopsided mess.

fuck off shill

are you sure?
all I heard was a bill from the gang of six, and that bill was horrendous.
Still, is it okay to shut down the gov just because a bill they like didn't pass.

My Brazilian friend, you need to understand that the average lefty in the USA absolutely hates Trump. Even uttering that Trump did something good would get them shunned by fellow leftists. No matter what happens, everything bad is Trump's fault, and when you try to point out the positives, they'll (leftists) will just resort to calling Trump a bigot, racist, sexist, etc.

Basically, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ans any other leftist media lost their shit after the election, they can't be considered credible news sources because all they care about is shitting on Trump, regardless of the truth.

>the trump shutdown

Thing is republicans intentionally let CHIP funding lapse so they could use it as a bargaining, well, chip for an occasion like this. Most people understand this and know democrats are fighting for both CHIP and DACA while republicans are trying to create a false dilemma.

Democrats gave up funding the government unless illegals are made citizens.

>let's encourage our politicians to focus on blame shifting

>trump was given a bipartisan deal on tuesday
>Miller and Cotton told him it was bad
>Trump then angrily turns down the deal 2 days later and calls all of africa a shithole and asks why we get immigrants from there

Yeah, pretty sure it was Trump that fucked this up

I genuinely hope this is what the dems are messaging lol

All conservacucks are to blame

Democrats voting YES:
Donnelly (IN)
Heitkamp (ND)
Jones (AL)
Manchin (WV)
McCaskill (MO)

I'd say that speaks volumes, their internal polling shows this shit is unpopular as fuck and they don't want to put their names on it in vulnerable seats.

> Trump didn't get a DACA bill
> Therefore it's his fault that the government isn't being funded

Government funding has nothing to do with DACA except for Democrats saying they won't do one without the other. They literally won't vote to fund the government without DACA, and you blame Trump for not funding the government?

You are dumb and should feel dumb

The deal was bad, though.

SHILL HARDER MEN

>(((bipartisan deal)))
End chain migration. Repeal the 1965 immigration act. Deport all illegals. Build the wall. Imprison employers who hire illegals. End birthright citizenship.

What? The Democrats are the ones who have created the false dichotomy: either CHIP+DACA or nothing. Why can't they just go for the third option, vote for CHIP now and discuss DACA later? CHIP is budget-related, it makes sense to attach a CHIP extension to the budget. DACA is immigration-related, makes no sense at all to be talking about DACA in a budget deal.

DACA discussion should be limited to the deal on immigration reform. If you want to block the wall and the RAISE act over DACA, fine, but forcing a government shutdown over protections for illegal immigrants is absurd. Just like with the tax cuts, it shows clearly that Senate Democrats are only interested in grandstanding and theatrics with no regard for the good of the nation.

hurr durr bazed democraps

the dems manufactured outrage about the (true) shithole statement to scuttle that deal, then offered the gang of six deal that was even more generous than the DREAM act and did not move to merit based immigration

If what Schumer said is true, he's absolutely to blame. Apparently he was even offered full funding for the wall and increased military funding. If Schumer isn't lying, I am so fucking done with Trump.

Government shutdowns are always the republicans fault, no matter what.

>Schumer ever tells the truth

trump literally has no control over this and can't stop it, it's a completely different part of the government.

BUMP BUMP BUMP! MY TWITTER BOTS ARE TURNING ON!

I am doubtful and hoping Trump denies. Going to be very upset though if it's the truth. Now that Schumer said that, Trump needs to actually accept a deal. He already said he would accept DACA if it had the wall funding.

So, they couldn't pass a bill.... So they shut down the government?
Is that how things work in burgerland?

They couldn't pass a funding bill. The government is shutting down because it has no money to fund it.

Schumer said it was gonna be a fence border instead of a wall in this “comprimise”. You guys don’t pay attention do you.

Can anyone explain to me what does it mean or happens with the govt shutsdown?

Are we fucked when N.Korea attacks or will the country go into Purge mode?

HOLY SHIT
IT'S A MILITARY COUP
HOLY SHIT
GET IN THE STREETS
HOLY SHIT
IT'S A MILITARY COUP
HOLY SHIT
GET IN THE STREETS
HOLY SHIT

if he didn't steal the presidency from Clinton the Democrats and RINOs wouldn't have voted no out of spite

The way I see it is the Democrats are being a bunch of whiny bitches over illegal immigration.

Uh, no. In his little speech he just gave, he said border wall.

He’s lying, the deal they put forward said fense border not border wall.

i blame Drumph for his class-dividing tax cuts.

and apple bringing their shithole funds back to the US. take your fascist-campaign promises somewhere else nazi!

they know they'll never win over whites again after the way they've behaved so they have to keep the flow of low IQ niggers into the country open.

That's not what I meant.
My question to the other user was more or like : If a party can't pass a bill they want, is it normal and acceptable for them to just force a shutdown by voting against the spending bill soon after?

No, not normal at all. Dems are just being cunts because muh drumph.

I honestly fail to see how this Trump's fault, then.
It seems to me the dems are just mad because they couldn't pass the bills they wanted.

>republicans let CHIP expire
>Trump ends DACA
>"lol we're using people's lives as bargaining chips, surely the democrats will cave"
>they don't
>"FUCKING DEMOCRATS"

R-really?

When you blame it on trump of course trumps to blame.

see

Yes, it’s evil bluhmps fault, he should give amnesty to all brown people in the world.

Because when you're a liberal, literally everything is Trump's fault. All the dems voted against this bill, but it's Republicans faults because they're the majority, even though they don't have enough votes on their own.

This wouldn't have been an issue in the first place if CHIP and DACA were still in place. 100% on Trump and the Republicans.

They are gambling with amnesty, that’s a lot different than someone living or dying, these people aren’t supposed to be here and a huge part of Trump’s base wants them gone. Trump was open to giving amnesty in exchange for his campaign promises which would ensure we wouldn’t have this situation again, but Democrats don’t want to compromise they want the amnesty to get the votes from illegal immigrants and they want more illegal immigrants so the cycle repeats.

the (((deal))) is not what the american people want. and that is who the President works for.

>Because when you're a liberal, literally everything is Trump's fault. All the dems voted against this bill, but it's Republicans faults because they're the majority, even though they don't have enough votes on their own.

Leftist logic perfectly explained right here.

It belongs to the Republicans desu. They needed the votes and the Dems have something they want that is being ignored. In a perfect world the Republicans listen and strike a middle ground but politics has become very Machiavellian, draconian, and stupid.

He said during the last shutdown that Obama was at fault because leadership comes from the top down. Now it's suddenly not his fault because he's the president?

>if we post it, it will become true

i don't even understand this stupid doomsday shit surrounding a govt shutdown. it used to be used all the time as a weapon in negotiations. the founding fathers were very pro-government shutdowns and hung governments.

this is the definition of political theater. this is how the minority party gets something. if the republitards weren't such soft faggots, the Cruz shutdown probably would have worked.

I bet these democrap scum use their jewish masters in the media to push out fake news blaming the republitards, and they just sit back and wait for all the republicucks to grant them whatever they want. this would be a total disaster without Trump at the helm.

Middlegrown to a leftie in this scenario is all or nothing.

This poll is basically did you vote for Hillary or Trump.

Go back to plebbit shareblue. We don't want taco benders in the US.

blame Russia

it's the in thing to do

Yes because the bill included that retarded fucking Wall.

But is it okay to shut down the government because an earlier bill did not pass? Is that how it works?

No, it is called appeasement. People think strong arming works in politics but it just injures and angers your opponent to come back and kill you. These are the tactics of a failing african dictatorship. I guess we are truly in the age of the amerimutt now.

Democrats are actual traitors who openly support illegal immigration over the wants and needs of the American people and even the president. How is it the presidents fault? All they fucking care about is illegals, they are the quintessential definition of traitor and anti-american. Their lack of a compromise that would shut down the government itself in order to force people to take more illegals is proof they are a foreign hostile interest inside the government.

>believing kikes

The GOP is to blame plain and simple. They couldn't round up the votes needed in their own party to pass the spending bill. It's not the Dems' job to roll over and play dead for papa Trump.

>RINOs fucking up things is a surprise
Go the fuck back to plebbit concern troll

They literally did not have the votes. Even if the 4 repubs that voted no voted yes instead, it still would only be 54 out 60 needed yes votes.

Republicans control all branches of government. This is their fault.
Is that why Trump is losing?

Hi shareblue

True, but the dems voted overwhelmingly against the bill. Just because there was no daca attached (which is unrelated to spending). They didn't even disagree with the bill.
It seems to me dems (+ the 2 rinos) only voted to shut down the gov because they couldn't pass an earlier bill on daca.

The republicans and the right in general is no longer falling for their positions being renegotiated after several years while democrats demand them to reset to the middle ground again and again. Compromising was done, we have exhausted our limit as far as we are willing to go. Same goes for gun control, we wont consider a compromise, because we already have. Its the boiling a frog thing all over again.

There was a deal, but Trump nuked it over his pet wall. So yeah, Trump is essentially to blame for this shutdown.

>Democraps are just doing what their far-left base wants

All the big democrats are basically centrists.

Four dems voted to pass and five gops voted against. If the gop had been unanimous, then they would have had to turn on more senator, but they weren't so here we are. When you can't even get your own party to support something, don't expect the other side to.

The plan made dreamers legal. Trump would betray his voters if he approved it.

Twitter is faggot central and unprofitable, they make Facebook look good in comparison.

He had no problems with that, he only nuked it for not including funding for his wall

If you think it's the repubs you are a moron. The dems filibustered on the congress floor and repubs don't have a 60 vote to break the filibuster.

The plan didn't fund his wall, didn't get rid of chain migration, didn't get rid of the visa lottery system to a system that selects BASED on merit.

Is it ever wonder why we hate the dems like you and voted for someone like trump?

Even someone with a centrist view knows this was a bad deal

Yes. He never bothered to get a real budget passed, instead allowing 4 CRs while he fucked around doing nothing for a year. Then he blew up talks where the Dems were going to give him his stupid wall right before the DACA shit he told Congress to bring him a bill on expired.

Trump is straight up retarded because despite controlling every branch of government he can't keep the lights on.

There was never an actual deal. There was a group of like 3 RINOs and 3 dems who made a "deal" that other repubs didn't support. Now there is just finger pointing because "LOL DRUMPF KILLED THE DEAL"

I read the bill.
The bill is unreasonable.
Barely touches chain migration + visa lottery.
Amnesty far beyond DACA
Only 10% of Trump's funding goal on border security.
Not much of a compromise.

And also

Lol, are you just resorting to copy-pasting at this point? I've seen you post the same comment verbatim both on here and on reddit. I understand, it must get tiring sometimes.

You're right
The Jews still open the media
So their lies are the loudest

NO.

SAGE