Richard Spencer isn't even half the man that William Pierce was. Why is the right so lacking in good leadership?

Richard Spencer isn't even half the man that William Pierce was. Why is the right so lacking in good leadership?

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Pierce never accomplished anything. Just wrote some skinhead wet dream book and ranted on the radio for a while. Once Spencer is dead we can compare the two though.

The OK city bombing wouldn't have happened without Turner diaries

Is this the replacement Mossad sent?

>implying spencer is the leader of the alt right

Pierce was kind of a weirdo but he was right about everything.

Yeah, also this. Spencer is a person who speaks about Identitarianism. He's not the fabled return of the fuehrer.

That was an inside job user

>Why is the right so lacking in good leadership?
Because bad ideas bread bad leaders.

Never heard of that, is there a documentary?

Well I do like the fact that Richard is good looking and dresses well. The people in our movement who look and dress like Untermensches are embarrassing.

Pierce was a Virgin compared to the Chad Rockwell though.

Pierce was a smart man, Ph.D in physics. Used to be a professor

Because Richard advocates CP
Kikebook redlondon17/videos/2447679492124094/

It lacks good leadership because the American people are progressively becoming lower in quality. The only salvagable thing in the altright is the occidental observers and its’ affiliated academics.

>skinhead
Get out of here shill. Anyone that has read or listened to any of this man's work knows that he was absolutely not a skinhead. And it's obvious just by looking at him. He was an smart old ass white man and there's nothing that scares the Jew more. Maybe a defiant young generation...and that's exactly what this smart ass old white man helped to nurture and ensure progressed beyond himself. And that's exactly what he accomplished. I would run now, while you still own Israel

Alt right is just racist liberalism

Pierce was too much of a Leninist. Greg Johnson's take on him is best. No homo.

This. There is virtually no true leadership left inside of America. Will be a miracle is we ever get our mojo back.

Spencer not da leader, he do not kno da wai.

>physicist
>skinhead

Pick one

Fuck off you kike. There are plenty of great white men left in America. These ideas grow bigger everyday in the US. Our country will lead the next great awakening

one great day we will knock down MLKs statue and put up one of WLP

Yeah, or Canada is FUCKED lmao

imagine having fidel castros son as your prime minister?

Lurk more

youtube.com/watch?v=FvhWWfbaHzE

An article by Dr. Pierce on his meeting with Rockwell
nationalvanguard.org/2015/09/on-george-lincoln-rockwell/

>bread

The media doesn't delegate who our leaders are. For the time being, we are a faceless movement, and the fact is that we don't need another Hitler, Rockwell, or Pierce to be successful. This is not only a white movement, but a world movement. Show them who their masters are. Be the change you want to be, OP. Stop waiting for a madman who will never come.

Relevant youtu.be/JsQynzug6JQ?t=7m46s

>racist liberalism
>implying white liberals aren't just as racist as anyone
(You)

Agreed. There have been leaders all through history we've looked at as a people for inspiration and Dr Pierce is one of them. And if they erect that Marion Barry statue they want to in DC we'll replace it with Commander Rockwell

No one's waiting. We're faceless as of now but it's good we have solid leaders that we can look too for guidance. I agree we need to be the change however. We must all naturally strive hard so that we can ensure our people have the best leaders as possible.

And that's a good thing??

I shouldn't say no one. Our lemmings our waiting for us to show them the way. As soon as we can show the lemmings and make them understand what's happening, then natural leaders will rise to lead them.

Absolutely not, but you can't say his legacy is irrelevant. His writings were used, correctly or otherwise, in the motivation for the death of 168 americans

Rockwell and Pierce were great, Duke is great, Jared Taylor is great (if soft on JQ) Spencer, Enoch and Anglin are great and are the triumvirate of the modern alt right with Spencer most fit to be the public leader.

All these are great men fighting publically for our race and survival. Anyone who disagrees is either a troll being contrary to literally everything for lulz, a shill, a kike, or a retard.

That's actually a lie. in Timothy Mcveighs own words he did it because he was appalled by what the Federal government under Billy "Slick Willy" Clinton and his Jewish cabinet did to the Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas. He's either never read or listened to Pierce or he's intentionally misrepresenting him

See

get on the Christopher cantwell level if you haven't yet. Thursday mornings hes doing a podcast with anglin. and then 3 others on his own each week.

Seriously no one picked up on this

Thanks friend. I'll definitely look into him, we certainly need more people in the media who talk about these questions to a broader public. If enough lemmings hear it and think about it they'll come to understand.

Prove it.

If you haven't noticed, the lack of quality men includes all ideologies and cultures. Modernity, my nigga.

Peirce wasnt a kike shill tho

The Murdoch Diaries
youtube.com/watch?v=U5esl7aPnbY

christophercantwell.com

Cantwell is based, all you need to know about him
youtube.com/watch?v=mFDHqs518xY

pierce was an obscure nobody who never went beyond short wave am radio broadcasts

stop living in the past

Replace kikebook with Facebook and add the HTTPS and you can see the vid

I've heard he was, at least at one point, funded by Soros. I never looked into it, is there any validity? I never quite trusted Dicky because he was so "popular" even though he gets a lot of "hate" most of the time the media does something drastic if they think you're a real threat like have the Ani-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith label you and your organization terrorists

He wasn't a skinhead but yeah he didn't do shit. Idk why people worship him.
this too

>this level of shilling even after the man's death
The Nose fears the Pierce

>worship

That was a quality watch actually.

TY for that, saving for my redpill stash

Why does it matter if he did something or not, he was write in what he said.

hahaha, that is pretty funny, but seriously neck yourself kike.

I don't know, man. Cantwell is basically a raving madman.

I find it funny the Jews will still instruct their golems to shit on Dr. Pierce's name even this long after his death. Hehe. That should tell you all you need to know right there

That's why he's great. One of these days man, one of these days he's gonna be up in the bell tower taking out jews going to the synagogue. It's a matter of time

Dr. Pierce has done a shitload for the movement. He's one of the reasons why the movement even exists. He pretty much took up the torch after George Lincoln Rockwell was assassinated. Then he more or less was kicked out for being to extreme(more or less said race traitors need to be killed) and THEN started doing his radio broadcasts.

Spencer is not even 1/8th the man WP was. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Pierce, it was a pamphlet that I got from his people that introduced me to the Runes and saved my life. An honorable person who made it his duty to share the suppressed knowledge of our heritage.

Richard Spencer
>United several wings of the far right
>Single-handedly shifted the image of the far right away from fat slobs to handsome fascist intellectuals, dramaticly broadening our appeal
>Coordinating a legal strategy - his college tour - that both raises money for right wing causes and protects other right wing figures' right to speak
>Generates enormous media coverage spreading our ideas to millions of people who would have otherwise been unexxposed to them
>Has the intellectual and academic credentials to go against any interviewer or left-wing commentator, decisively BTFOing anyone stupid enough to engage him
>Responsible for bringing multiple general membership organizations onto the same page so they can work together towards a single goal
> Has led to the political awakening of thousands of political white men
We all loved the Turner Diaries, but anyone who countersignal Richard at this point is either a guarenteed shill or a useful idiot for one.

>Secondhand edited video
Fuck off. Show the original.
youtube.com/watch?v=0Qsh8UhRP5c#t=32m

Starting at 32:00

Alt-Right Tonight (Beta) / The Sexual Frustration Theory

AltRight.com Streamed live on Jan 18, 2018

From 32:00 to 35:00 :

SPENCER:

>there is the flip side to porn. I mean porn is enervating. It's questionable the degree to which porn-

CONTE:

>Enervating is Latin for essence-sapping

SPENCER:

>Yes, essence-stealing. I guess there probably are some examples of people who watch porn in order to have sex.

CONTE:

>It's like proto-Viagra

SPENCER:

>Right. That's a very euphemistic way of thinking about it. You know: this hot couple wants to have a really exciting night so they watch a little porn sure that happens. The vast majority of porn, however, does not encourage anyone to have sex, and thus reproduce or create families potentially, or whatever. It's a sex substitute and it's an encouragement to masturbate. What would you say? 98? 90? Maybe 90% of porn- it may be even a lot higher than that- is basically masturbatorial porn. It's not meant to get you to have sex; it's a sex substitute. It's a way of enervating a society.

CONTE:

>It's bread and circus

cont:.


SPENCER:

>**For good and for ill. For instance: some forms a porn have been given to the types of people who, due to their- in a strong degree physical problems, their deep, innate character flaws, are just child molesters . Giving them certain types of porn can actually prevent greater child molestation.**


CONTE:

>**I can think of other methods.**

SPENCER:

>**Obviously, I can think of other methods, but in terms of the world we live in, I don't oppose it. But that proves the point-**

CONTE:

>**Right; but that's totally rare and tangential.**

SPENCER:

>The cuck response to porn is actually identical to the Feminist response. Rick Santorum would often say 'Oh, porn inspires rape and hatred of women.' No. It doesn't inspire any of these things. It sucks your vitality. If anything, it decreases rape.

CONTE:
the
>Actually, Richard, the funny thing about the Feminist response to porn: it's of course contradictory- as are most things regarding women. It's both- 'porn is bad for women' - the old response is 'porn is bad because it objectifies women'. Sure. That actually is a fairly reasonable thing to say. The new response is 'porn is good because it empowers women'. 'Oh, I turned 18. I can do my first porno.'.

cont.:
From 37:00

SPENCER:

>What do you mean?

*[Reads something off a phone]*


>'Let everyone know I say 'Hi'.'

BRATHOVD:

>That's the wrong-

SPENCER:

>**'Is Richard advocating for ethical child porn?' No. I'm not.**

CONTE:

>**What?**

SPENCER:

>**Someone suggested I'm advocating for 'ethical child pornography'. Absolutely not. I'm making a point, which is that there are certain people who have innate character flaws that are probably incurable, and showing them porn-they can use that as a sex substitute, so they don't have to engage in bad acts. That's obviously what I'm saying. I absolutely would not advocate-**

Not to mention that Jonathan Bowden endorsed Spencer before he died.
So the burden of proof is on you. What do you think Spencer meant by:
>certain types of porn
>other methods
>but
>world we live in
Please place your hate, deserved and/or undeserved, of Spencer aside, when answering this, and explain your reasoning if you like.

That's exactly the problem lol.

Those are some good points. I like and very much support Richard. I wish he would just work on his "children of the sun" talk and saying things like "you're boring me I won't answer that" when he gets stumped.

Have never heard William Pierce's stuff before always been a rockwell guy myself, but listening to his stuff now he is quite the man.

I personally want to listen to him slowly go more and more extreme. Also he's pretty funny too. don't worry I'll make a Cantwell General when he annouces on his podcast that he's had enough. I'll warn everyone to stay away from places where jews or negros congregate.

DESU I’m only mad cuz he didn’t think they should be put to death. He was too humane towards them. You lefties are the ones with the articles about humanity monsters. You should be happy about this.

>The OK city bombing wouldn't have happened without Ruby Ridge and Waco

Fix'd.

If you watch the (poorly shot and organized) whole stream, you see that Richard Spencer and Greg Conte were just answering random questions from the Hangout chat.

Some guy asked about pornography and Spencer was doing a bit on how pornography sucks your vitality off of you. He used the “pedo porn as a cure for actual pedos” as an extreme example of what he was arguing (that porn is bad for you and stops you from actually having sex and reproducing, basically).

Nothing to be offended about, really, if you take it into context.

it was a shit video I turned it off way before they even got to the problem statement from SPencer.

Also Greg Conte looks like one of the antagonist frat boys in Animal House.

>Obviously, I can think of other methods
What came to your mind when he said "other methods"? I know what came to mine
> but in terms of the world we live in
i.e. however, in this pozzed liberal utopia, we can't utilize other methods

I suppose if you oppose nationalism you would hope to see something like that happen. Cantwell needs to just lay low and relax. Take a vacation. I think the cops wanted to drive him nuts keeping him locked up.

It's quite amazing how so many things Richard says gets twisted into a disinfo meme. The Israel comments. The comments on gays. The recent comments on trannies. Someone is always there trying to lie to people who didn't see the original content.

White supremacists like him give nationalism a bad name.

Pierce never did shit and Spencer is controlled opposition.

Our leader is Dr. David Duke

Right on queue.

Meant to respond to

Not really. I can support nationalism and hope Cantwell relaxes. But if he doesn't, well I still want to see that too. Everyone loves a train wreck too. I was just listening to his most recent podcast and its basically a two hour rant about some trannie whos harassing him and his forums. This is a good example where he needs to dial it back. He should just ignore that deranged person.
During his Anglin podcasts he's level headed.

Sage jews

White nationalism has always been about supremacy. Embrace it and you've taken the final red pill

>wish he would just work on his "children of the sun" talk and saying things like "you're boring me I won't answer that" when he gets stumped.
I think what was missing from WN 1.0 and other failed far right movements was a lack of a coherent ideology that wasn't somewhat based on liberal principles. Most white nationalists were basically racist libertarians or, worse, rural LARPers with tortured interpretations of Christian dogma who never had any chance of actually siezing power. What's important about Spencer is that he is noticably aristocratic which is important because right wing movements need genuine leadership. When society was saner, people like Richard were in charge. That doesn't mean that we all have to be philosophers or academics, but it does mean that we can't sperg out whenever someone isn't Joe the Plumber or a member of your local Aryan Brotherhood chapter.

We need to start thinking post-American and post-Christian if we want to ensure that we have longterm viability. That doesn't mean we start burning flags and churches, only that we acknoweledge that these institutions are at least somewhat responsible for our current sorry state, and need to be improved upon substantially.

For the "You're boring me" stuff, it can be annoying but the overwhelming majority of people who engage Spencer argue in bad faith. By immidiately acknowledging their question as disengenous, Spencer can move forward without seeming like he's dodging it. He shouldn't have to repeatedly explain the ethnostate to people or answer accusations that he wants another Holocaust.

Everything he said has been archived. It's not out of context, you're just lying.

I hate when people are dismissed as shills when they have a disagreement, but it's clear to me that Spencer is being shilled against hard. He has some dumb ideas, suffers from foot in mouth disease occasionally and is a little effete but nothing he's said or done justifies the concerted attacks he receives every time his name is mentioned. They always use the same easily dismissed talking points as well

>strange looking head
>slight curve in his nose

why is Molynuex such a weird looking guy? I'd love to see his 23&Me

those narratives are boring. I agree with Richard, and now Enoch with repeating themselves. I believe they can also say something like "Have you not done any show prep? You should research your guests a little better."

Curved nose really is not a good measure of how white someone is. Lots of European non Jews have curved or arched noses.

He stated that he has Jewish ancestry
>Mentored by a Jew before he got redpilled
>Respects Israel's internal policies
>Thinks BRexit was a kosher sandwich and supplied evidence
CONTROLLED OPPOSITION GAIZ!

We need to steal one of his hair follicles for testing

He's smiling which makes most peoples noses curve. anyway why bother talking to the fucking jew?? Don't feed them

While we have good support with spencer, enoch, anglin and the like, we don't have a leader. If one came about, you wouldn't really have to question it, you would just know. I wish we had someone like Rockwell or Pierce but since we don't we have to make due until we find someone worthy.

He will come forward soon. Whoever it is.

I think Paul Nehlen has the potential to be the guy

I have just become aware of this guy and he's damn good. Calls jews *(star)

He marks them like the Nazis. This is a good thing.

He's got my vote.

There is no one like this that exists because our world has gone to shit. Accept it, and stop waiting for a savior to come.

The Nazis predicted this would happen if they lost WW2. Germany was the immune system of the white race. Now that it’s destroyed there’s literally no way to replenish our stocks, since the spiritual lifeblood of the white race is now gone. Even if you created a white ethnostate you wouldn’t be able to get it back since we’ve already deteriorated past the point of no return. Ironically, the Nazis looked to imperial Germany as a golden era and wanted to reclaim Germany’s former glory. We look at Nazi germany as the pique of white civilisation even though the Nazis saw themselves as a shadow of their former selves. We are the equivalent of Mongolian rape babies compared to our ancestors.