Jordan Peterson responsibility

This faggot always talks about taking responsibility and that no matter where you are in life it is your fault.
But at the same time he contradicts himself. He says success is related to high intelligence etc.

Also he talks about social hierarchy. He says that people at the top are happier, their brains produce more serotonin. What should be obvious, you have more power, more ressources and therefor advantage over lower status guys when it comes to women.

So I am a low iq person and I have mental issues because of all the failures that humiliated me.

So Peterson now expects me to stop brooding about my shitty life, because that brooding leads to dark thoughts (Columbine killers etc) and take responsibility for my failures.

So he as an highly intelligent dude, who has succeeded in life, is recognized worldwide, has loved, even kids, gets more money in one year than I will ever make in my whole life tells me, the low iq guy, who has never known success, who even when he put effort in things failed thorugh bad luck, has never had a girlfriend, etc that I should stop brooding and start taking responsiblities.

What did he mean by that? Seriously really gets my few neurons jogging.

What he wants is that I will accept my position as a worthless low status guy, do my best (becoming a chef at wendys), be a good moral person, and wageslaving to support a social system, that offers me nothing. I should live my life so that lucky people, who are on top of the ladder can live a safe, happy life.

It really is a mystery how people like me could get murderous thoughts and want to become malevonant. Of course it is their narcissism, when all that counts in this world is getting on top of the hierarchy, that they have the audacity to to be entitled to have the same thing as successful people. I mean the people on top have earned their place, dont they?
I mean having a high iq, good looks, good environment, success after success that builds confidence, luck etc

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psychologytoday.com/blog/ulterior-motives/201304/power-makes-people-happy
telegraph.co.uk/technology/4285142/Women-get-more-pleasure-in-bed-from-wealthy-men.html
youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM
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If you have a high IQ why don't you use it to produce something instead of bitches to us about it.

doesnt matter and now go sort yourself out kiddo

Like I have said I am a low iq person therefor I want a high iq person to tell me my logical fallacy

Listen idiot. You're unique ID in this thread is "+w01zPWQ" That means when you respond to your own post pretending you're someone else everyone can tell that you're an attention seeking faggot.

Read the post again, bucko.

What choice do you have OP? Wallow in self-pity for the rest of your life, or take what are you given by nature, and make the most of it?

>(((samefagging)))
top kek how embarrassing, in all fields lads

give him a break, he's coming to terms with that he's either got to feed himself or starve.

Yea I didn't read any of it and misread the last line.

Holy shit you are a low iq person too nice.

My last sentence finished with an etc, not a period. You just answered before I could finish my sentence because you havent even read what I wrote you fucking brainlet.

>trying this hard to recover

No once people have understand how life really is, there will come dark times that will make columbine look like a nice day.

so what if he tells you that?
yeah, sorting yourself out is a good thing. you won't have all he has by tomorrow but it's still better to get into the rat race rather than not trying, you retard. that's what everybody does and should do. if you don't, you're like an undead. you don't matter, nobody cares about you and life passes you by. if I was in the US, I'd probably do some entrepreneur shit if I don't find any job whatsoever. like he says, start somewhere, clean your room and eventually slay that damn dragon that obstructs your shitty life.

>No once people have understand how life really is
What does he mean by this?

you need to take responsibility whether you could have done anything about it or not. its not about fairness, it never was

>trying this hard to recover from the fact that he too failed to make the logical connection between the last sentence of my first post, which wouldnt make any sense without my second post. Fucking brainlet

kek have understood. You as low iq person shouldnt have difficulties understanding my brainlet sentences. so dont act smarter than you are you fucking walking Dunning-Kruger effect

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>fucking brainlet
Rich coming from the guy who couldn't even figure out how to condense his OP enough to fit another half a sentence into it. You're either retarded, or an attention seeking faggot.

Into all fields, lads.

So what you want to tell me is, that without even using your three braincells, you came to the conclusion that I am an attention seeking faggot.
What did he mean by that? Really gets my old brain jogging.
But who am I kidding. Isnt lack of thinking and jumping a characteristic of brainlets? So how could I blame you.

What are you thoughts on being replaced by a mcmenu at mcdonalds? will your kind survive?

How often do I have to repeat myself you fucking brainlet.

In my first post I write already that I am a low iq person. Holy shit no wonder I love coming to this place. The average iq is probably 75. kek

>in b4 he unhides his flag and its Canada

My thoughts on being replaced by a mcmenu at mcdonalds are killing spree.

Nah dude, he's being oppressed by white male engineers who made the vending machines. That's why he's a pirate.

>tfw when even if he would hide his flag, people wouldnt have to wonder where he comes, because no other nation than le 56% could be so retarted kek

Those who can't: teach.

Unhide then.

So Peterson himself is a brainlet? Guess that makes sense when even a brainlet like me can see through his bullshit

how should I unhide the word then? are you fucking retarded? ahh I my brainlet has forgotten that you are kek

The point is not that you should aspire to be a Wendy's chef. You can compensate somewhat for low Intelligence with work, and you should try to get to a place higher than you are, there is a limit to everyone's abilities and if you work on it, you'll find your own. Peterson's point is that you should come to terms with the fact that life will not go the way you want it to, or in any good way, if you sit around moping about it, you've got to be ambitious and take what's yours. Nobody ever knows what they're doing, just fake it.

Y'know I predicted Canadian, but I wish your flag would show county, prefecture, whatever the fuck you call it, because I'm almost certain its Quebec. You sound French-Canadian. This is rhetoric of French socialism. You want to burn cars and shiiiiite 'cause life's not fair. Yeah, take responsibility and be a Wendy's cook, as you say it's the best you can do, but one with a clean room.

If this is what you take from what he says you are in fact a brainlet.
sage

Best thread

kek brainlet kys

Even worse. Bureaucratic French.

>no matter where you are in life it is your fault
he always talks about problems with older men in their 40s but never gives answers or solutions other than save your father

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If there's ever been such a thing as nigger mentality, you've invoked it perfectly in this post.

>So Peterson now expects me to stop brooding about my shitty life etc.
Yes. Brooding offers you nothing.
>What did he mean by that? Seriously really gets my few neurons jogging.
He meant that you should stop being a little bitch and make whatever you can for yourself instead of drooling over somebody else's shit.
>What he wants is that I will accept my position as a worthless low status guy
Wrong, and that's why you're a nigger. You should strive to either overcome your position through hard work, or find happiness despite it.
>that offers me nothing
It fucking does, that's the whole point dumbass. Instead of hating shit, just do the best you can, and soon enough you'll be happy, because you'll know you've done everything you could. And people will like you more if you do that. And you'll have friends, money and a place in the world.
>I should live my life so that lucky people, who are on top of the ladder can live a safe, happy life.
You should live your life without fucking caring about them.
At best, you can admire their fucking determination and try to copy it.
>It really is a mystery how people like me could get murderous thoughts and want to become malevonant.
No it's not, low IQ has been correlated with violent tendencies. You're a nigger.
>when all that counts in this world is getting on top of the hierarchy
Who said that? Show me that person.
>that they have the audacity to to be entitled to have the same thing as successful people
Why the fuck WOULD you be entitled to that?
>I mean having a high iq, good looks, good environment, success after success that builds confidence, luck etc
And that's also why you're a nigger.
If you really want to get higher in life stop fucking blaming everything else for your complacency. If you don't then let them do their fucking jobs, and make the world a better place. For you and everyone.

kek I like how all you do is attacking my country instead of refuting my arguments. Seriously how high is your iq? I am on your side brainlet

Not possible. Low IQ people don't have the wherewithal to write this thread. Literally you must be average (100) or above. Which means you dont have low IQ.
But you are a beta faggot little poof for enticing me to reply to your little dick thread. So kys anyway.

So Jordan Peterson is supposed to be the stupid man's smart person. Does this make you a retard?
Just how low is your iq, out of curiosity my bucko?

I refuted your arguments.

Really gets my underdevelopped grey matter pumping

I should stop being a little bitch when all that matters in this world is being on top of the hierarchy ladder. You either are a winner or a loser.
I should strive and work hard to become a low wagecuck when other people have handed everything in their life. What did he mean by that?

I should not care about what others do. Hmmm really fires up the neurons. It isnt like people on top have power over me, can tell me what to do and oh who knew take also my women, hypergamy n sheet.

so now I am to blame for my violent thoughts. Wow I really should take responsibility for my low iq.

of course I m ot entitled. Guess only rich trust fund kids are entitled to that. I mean they earned it. I should take responsibility for my fathers low iq I guess. Why didnt he succeed in life that worthless cuck right?

I am really happy that so many brainlets can give me their deep thoughts on this subject kek

kek look at that brainlet

here If i read this thread, and we take the average iq of this thread (the average is always 100) then probably 130 or 145 kek

I think we can all definitely declare you highest iq and undisputed winner. Would that make you feel better?

He contradicts every single view of his, people who take Peterson seriously and worship him are bunch of morons.

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His talks about iq & creativity are interesting, and watching him debate low hanging fruit sjw's funny. But beyond that his advice is legit shit, and will set you down a path of further misery.

No man should be taking any advice from this guy.

Also, Peterstein doesnt want to accept that all the problems we face today are because of Jews, women's hypergamy and voting habbits. Not the current generations of men. By paying your taxes and being a good goy you're simply helping sustain this shit tier system. Where women reap all the benefits and men get nothing. Its only going to get worse

Telling men to constantly improve is only making things worse, as men can only improve so much, and its also not possible for everyman to do this. If men are having this hard of a time to find a decent women and start a family, then there is something seriously wrong with the current generations of women, not men.

Men are always told to improve but women are not, and thats due to the gynocentric society we live in that tells women they dont have to. The only way you can improve women is by taking all of their rights away from them.

Petersteins advice is adding to the problem.

fuck Jordan Peterson

No because it isnt your fault that you are a brainlet. Actually the only thing I feel is empathy. I know it is not your fault for being the way you are. It makes me want to create a healthier society, where you dont have to feel beneath me. I want you to be my equal, my friend. I will give you even some of my women.
Because why should you suffer and I take everything, when both of us cant for our position.

*variate

>This faggot always talks about taking responsibility and that no matter where you are in life it is your fault.
There is a difference between being responsible and being at fault, that's the key thing to understand.

It's not really contradictory.
Nietzsche always said that true life fulfillment laid in overcoming, this trial is what would create the overman. That doesn't mean everybody would become the overman, there'd just remain an overly high population of useless fucking faggot losers like you.

The fact is, that only a few can truly succeed. You are having a logical conflict over this now because you know you'll never be one of them. Fucking loser.

You're an idiot and you don't understand what he's trying to communicate. Responsibility is the tool to climb social dominance heirarchies, you can be as intelligent as you want, but if you sit on your ass and blame others for your problems you'll never get anywhere.

That's great! It's good you feel that way bucko. I'm glad I was able to help you speak up and articulate one of your goals.

>I should stop being a little bitch when all that matters in this world is being on top of the hierarchy ladder.
You're pretty retarded, aren't you.
You don't live in the fucking middle ages. Peterson doesn't have the right to show up at your wedding with his guardsmen and get dibs on fucking your wife.
A lion will always be above a rat, but the rats will live long after the lions are extinct.
Getting to the top of a hierarchy IS NOT ALL THAT MATTERS. Being prosperous enough to have comfort and a family fucking does. And that's within our dumb fucking grasp.
How many different ways do you want me to explain this in?
Do you want me to draw you a fucking picture?
>I should strive and work hard to become a low wagecuck when other people have handed everything in their life. What did he mean by that?
You should strive to do your fucking best and not be a useless nigger who doesn't do shit other than bitch about how other people have more than him.
> It isnt like people on top have power over me, can tell me what to do and oh who knew take also my women, hypergamy n sheet.
They fucking don't you retard!
Read the law.
>so now I am to blame for my violent thoughts. Wow I really should take responsibility for my low iq.
Yeah you fucking are, and yeah you fucking should. If you wanna fix anything, start with reading a fucking book. A good book.
>Guess only rich trust fund kids are entitled to that. I mean they earned it. I should take responsibility for my fathers low iq I guess. Why didnt he succeed in life that worthless cuck right?
Those people worked in factories and accumulated wealth across entire fucking generations, so their kids could end up where they are.
Yes, you can blame your father for being a dumb cunt.
If you do't like it, start off by doing it yourself, so that your own kids can live a little better, and their kids can be doctors.
That's how life, nature and the world fucking works.
What don't you understand?

Yes I know I will never be one of them.
So this is a fight to get to the top. Give me one single why I shouldnt use immoral behaviour to get to the top? B-because thats against the l-law. V-violence is b-bad. Oh how good I have nothing to lose. That's my advantage. I am bitter, angry. Crushed dreams crushed pride has made me what I am.

Why shouldnt I use my survival advantage when you can use your high iq and looks.

A fallacy you made is that you assume or falsely understood that successful people are happy because they have power, resources and advantage over low status people. JP states that there is no correlation between wealth and happiness. JP states that people who have a goal they are moving closer towards find more meaning in their lives, and stave of negative emotions. He states that success increases the likelihood of further success (Lobster Dominance Heirarchy, Matthew Principle).

You also compare yourself to someone who is hyper successful ("known worldwide") when instead you should compare yourself to yourself.

You claim that your failures are due to bad luck. I don't know how to take that. That's either a good thing because really you have the capacity to succeed and its just 'bad luck' that has impeded you.

You should accept your position as low status because that is what you are and its the closest to reality. But again you compare yourself to other people or things out of your control. ("Support a social system which doesn't support me. [...] I should live my life so people on the top can live a happy life").

It isn't a mystery why people like you could become malevolent. Good looks, IQ and birth circumstance help of course but what the hell does that have to do with your situation? Some people are born life on hard mode. Take a look at yourself dude, you likely have access to a computer, food and a warm shelter which means you are likely in the top 5-10% of wealth the world has to offer.

Life is unfair, JP has stated this many times but you are obviously fixated on what other people have or are. But not once have you accredited that to hard work. A lot of your post oozes with resentment.

My main conflict is with his measures of success desu.

Being prosperous enough to have a comfort and a family.

What did he mean with that?

Oh shit even though we have all the technology that should enable us to live easier I have to wageslave 8 hours a day to live in a fucking shoe carton. And there are waiting thousands of women wanting to be with me living in a shoe carton while they could support themselves and get chadded

Read the Bible and go to church. At least for a while

You might laugh at the idea and others will mock it, but Christianity can help shape your perspective so that it enables you to start healing and getting better

You'll always be a failure because you approach life like a failure. Do you really unironically think that the higher man appeals to the virtues of the herd? He creates his own virtues and morality and often times this requires being cut-throat through competition.

>becoming a chef at wendys
>be a good moral person
A low iq person with mental issues should be relatively happy achieving those things. Oh and there's a lot more to success than having high IQ

psychologytoday.com/blog/ulterior-motives/201304/power-makes-people-happy

telegraph.co.uk/technology/4285142/Women-get-more-pleasure-in-bed-from-wealthy-men.html

Wrong. It's about moving towards the top not being at the top. The literature states that people stave of negative emotion and find most meaning (according to JP) when they move towards a goal in a positive fashion. The top is ever moving. You think all the successful people you are jealous over don't have their own 'top' they want to be at. There are people in the world who likely see your position as a good goal.

An how on earth is acting like a bitch going to help you? Why on earth do you think you deserve a women? Of course you are to blame for violent thoughts. If you don't have any agency how on earth will you have agency to improve your situation. If you are looking for a nihilistic excuse for your own failures (which is YOUR fault) you have come to the wrong place.

You got my point there is more to success than having high iq. Success is not earned, you dont deserve success more than me and I dont deserve success more than you

OH my fucking god, just shut the fuck up you whiny faggot.

Please just kill yourself and spare us.

moving towards the top.

So let me get my low iq, bad looks, and mental ilness collection and lets start moving towards the top.

I didnt know that it could be that easy. T-thanks

>By paying your taxes and being a good goy you're simply helping sustain this shit tier system.
What's a better system?
>Telling men to constantly improve is only making things worse, as men can only improve so much, and its also not possible for everyman to do this.
Bullshit. That's nothing more than an excuse to wallow in self-pity.
Nature itself has offered you no other alternative than to try.
>then there is something seriously wrong with the current generations of women, not men.
There is.
And yes, that's where the Jews come in.
Fault also lies with people who accept this or, even more, don't publicly speak against it.
>Men are always told to improve but women are not, and thats due to the gynocentric society we live in that tells women they dont have to.
Biologically, it makes sense. men are the engine in any society. They have to improve and drive the bitch to wherever she can give birth to offspring.
>The only way you can improve women is by taking all of their rights away from them.
Rule number one is that you can't take shit away from people.

clean your room

>DURR HURR!!1!!1 I have to work 8 hours a day. WORK! Oh the humanity! And I can't afford to live in Trump Tower! How horrible!
Bitch you're alive past the age of 10. Thank people like Peterson and others of his status for making that shit possible, throughout fucking history, because if it was up to you, we'd be living in trees.

This fucking guy created a thread where he complains about being low iq, then proceeds to call a brainlet every person that disagrees with him.

I guess he is a fucking retard then, when majority of people can't understand your rambling, then maybe there is something wrong with you.

Not everyone has 50 roommates in his commieblock so they can share the cleaning cuck

you don't deserve success, you earn it.

Polish subhuman calls a person retarded who explicitly wrote in his first post that he is low iq. How can you have such insight. Did you use that huge grey matter of yours to come to that conclusion?
Welcome low iq brother

>So I am a low iq person
Yeah, it's not hard to tell.

10/10 post.

Peterson is an example of the systems last line of defence to stop western men breaking free of the system. He appeals to the altruism and hope that westerns have in their heart that the world isn't Machiavellian. But in essence his message is:

Don't collectively deal with systemic issues by forgoing anything new or returning to a rational time, just run harder in the hamster wheel for your masters to demonstrate your value in this fucked up time in history.

kek that's what brainlets actually believe kek

>psychologytoday.com/blog/ulterior-motives/201304/power-makes-people-happy
Of course it fucking does, that's why all the moneys want to be chief.
But when the big monkey takes the role, the others understand their role and ASSOCIATE with him to share in that power, follow commands, and build a society. And everyone's happy.
>telegraph.co.uk/technology/4285142/Women-get-more-pleasure-in-bed-from-wealthy-men.html
Wealth is an indicator of prosperity and stability.
Females really like their children not starving to death because their dad can't get a better job than a chef at Wendy's.

>"kek I like how all you do is attacking my country instead of refuting my arguments. Seriously how high is your iq? I am on your side brainlet"
>proceeds to reply by insulting my country

next level debating

yo yo yo

It ain't hard to tell, I excel, then prevail
The mic is contacted, I attract clientele
My mic check is life or death, breathin' a sniper's breath
I exhale the yellow smoke of buddha through righteous steps
Deep like The Shining, sparkle like a diamond
Sneak a Uzi on the island in my army jacket linin'
Hit the Earth like a comet—invasion!
Nas is like the Afrocentric Asian: half-man, half-amazin'
‘Cause in my physical I can express through song
Delete stress like Motrin, then extend strong
I drink Moët with Medusa, give her shotguns in Hell
From the spliff that I lift and inhale; it ain't hard to tell

Get therapy. I'm not insulting but you need more than effort.

If I say that brainlets debate like that and I say that I am a brainlet doesnt that automatically imply that I will also debate like that you fucking retarded cuckbrain

>This faggot always talks about taking responsibility and that no matter where you are in life it is your fault.
>But at the same time he contradicts himself. He says success is related to high intelligence etc.
How is this a contradiction? Someone explain this low IQ logic. Are you saying stupid people don't have agency or something?

embittered low effort douche bags think power and status is handed to them.

Your problem is not that you have low iq, are unattractive or whatever.
It's clear from your defensive behaviour that you are shit at dealing with people.

Maybe a job at McDonalds is all you actually deserve.

If you have such a low iq that you cant understand low iq logic than you truely are a low low iq cuck

One article describes how powerful people self report positive emotion.

Another article describes states desirable mates cause women to experience more orgasms.

Both of these are obvious statements.

Both articles do not define terms like what 'Power' actually is. Is it agency? Is it wealth? Is Dominance? Is it competence?

What *exactly* is the point from these articles. You need to explain *in detail* and *with quotes* why those arguments bolster your view and how they help you.

What is your IQ?
How do you know this is your IQ?
Can you name 5 examples in which your IQ has caused you to fail or be impeded?
Can you think of any other reasons why you may have failed unrelated to your IQ?
Can you name 5 examples in which your IQ has caused you to fail in regards to reaching a goal?
What steps did you take to try and improve this situation or work around it?

How bad are your looks compared to other people?
How do you know you have bad looks?
How many people have told you look bad or have acted negatively to you because of your looks?
Can you name 5 examples in which your bad looks have caused you to fail or be impeded?
What steps did you take to try and improve this situation or work around it?

What mental illnesses do you have?
Have you been diagnosed with these mental illnesses by a professional?
What steps are you taking to improve or work through your mental illnesses?
Can you name 5 examples in which your mental illnesses have impeded your or caused your to fail?

What is your relationship with your family?
Is it possible to improve your relationship if it needs to be improved?

Do you live independently?

Do you have any friends?
If not, why not?
What steps have you made to make friends in your adult or young adult life?
What hobbies do you have?
What are 10 things you could do better?
What are your goals?

You sound miserable . It is winter time - Have you been taking your Vitamin D3 ? 2,000 to 4,000 IU's a day ? If not , you better get started because it takes 3 months to fully kick in .

either trolling, or just looking for excuses to avoid tidying up

>"i'll just call everyone low iq and brainlet to feel better!"

I guess you are right. Tomorrow I will go to the recording studio and next week I am a billionaire.

There are social skills that you haven't developed and you need help figuring out how to do it.

50+ years ago the average man with a trade job was seen as highly desirable to the average woman. But now because we have given women everything, and they never have to fear being homeless or penniless they want more, so this rules out the average man who could provide the basics. A large swath of the male population is becoming invisible.

Telling MILLIONS of men to improve is dumb. Because its simply not possible due to their genetics (IQ, attractiveness etc). There always needs to be men that do trade tier jobs. And most of the people that go into these type of jobs are the average man (average IQ, average attractiveness etc etc).

Now, not only does the average women want you to make alot of money, they want you to be better looking and have higher social status. Women's demands are becoming more and more insane by the day, and its only going to get worse. And again, this is all because the average man is becoming irrelevant due to equal rights and women being able to make the same money as men.


The destruction of the average man is being accelerated due to the emergence of social media. Soon the average man will wonder why he is paying taxes into a system that is completely rigged against him, where they get nothing and women reap all the benefits.

Escapism/neetdom is simply the symptom of hypergamy

WOMEN are the problem

youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM

4000 IU's a day

Look at that brainlet all smug n sheet kek

Do you remember the whole story Peterson has about why you should play fair? It's so you get invited back to play as many times as you want. Even if you're not that smart, if you're a principled guy (notice I did not say nice) people will give you good references so you can transition between jobs smoothly and be relatively successful.

This swearing Romanian guy gets it

Your post assumes that you're owed something, and that's a bullshit way to think and you'll always be a victim (and maybe become a criminal, I think this is what the Romanian guy meant by nigger) for thinking that way.

>power-makes-people-happy
What does power mean to you?
Most wealthy people believe knowledge is power.
You may want to think about that.

I can’t stand these meaningless nigger babblings