>The far-right, anti-Islam Alternative for Germany (AfD) party on Tuesday confirmed reports in the German media that one of its politicians, Arthur Wagner, has converted to Islam.
>Wagner, a leading AfD member in the eastern German state of Brandenburg, resigned his position on the party's national executive committee on January 11 for personal reasons, AfD spokesman Daniel Friese said.
Of course, this guy isn't the first of his kind to convert to the religion he tried to destroy. Arnoud Van Doorn, a leading member of the Dutch Freedom Party (founded by Geert Wilders) produced an anti-Islam film before eventually choosing to convert.
He even looks like a Muslim, he should have been purged anyhow
Tyler Edwards
You can't say the same about Arnoud Van Doorn
William Campbell
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Gavin Harris
Why no responses Sup Forums?
Are you just going to pretend these things aren't happening? That suits me desu, because then it can continue unimpeded
Evan Flores
I was once in the same mindset >white people refuse to help themselves and actively fight against anyone who promotes their best interests >no marriage material women to be found >degeneracy everywhere So the guy converts thinking the grass is greener on the other side. But it's not ad he will leave it quickly
Dominic Hughes
Traditionnalism is sand-niggerism. I think this Afd champ was fond of Evola and Guénon.
Ryan Howard
looks like a mongrel
Xavier Evans
Van Doorn converted years ago and is still Muslim.
I think the problem is anti-Islam polemicism. Most of the arguments against Islam found on popular websites are not only false, but are in fact ridiculously stupid and easily refuted. These guys use such arguments and then, when they talk to someone actually well versed in the religion, find out that the religion is very different than what they were told. They feel that because those arguments were so false that Islam must be true. I don't think it would happen if the focus of their arguments was against immigrants and immigration instead of Islam.
Zachary Thomas
Nice Taqiyya
Owen Gutierrez
Lol far-right anti-Islam politicians wille ventually realize that Islam have everything they like
Thomas Smith
>lets discuss this...after I soapbox for an hour. Not your personal blog, fag.
Joseph Reed
Nope. I love Jesus.
Isaac Lee
You are exactly the kind of retard I was talking about. Thanks for proving my point
David Evans
Be quiet, slave
Aiden Walker
So does Islam tho lmao
Jose Garcia
Is that why they would tear down every Church?
Jackson Morales
he took the blackpill and became an acceleration instead, it happens let it burn
Noah Long
accelerationist*
Dylan Ramirez
Salafis are not Orthodox Muslims.
>"Whenever Christian monks, devotees and pilgrims gather together, whether in a mountain or valley, or den, or frequented place, or plain, or church, or in houses of worship, verily we are [at the] back of them and shall protect them, and their properties and their morals, by Myself, by My Friends and by My Assistants, for they are of My Subjects and under My Protection.
>I shall exempt them from that which may disturb them; of the burdens which are paid by others as an oath of allegiance. They must not give anything of their income but that which pleases them—they must not be offended, or disturbed, or coerced or compelled. Their judges should not be changed or prevented from accomplishing their offices, nor the monks disturbed in exercising their religious order, or the people of seclusion be stopped from dwelling in their cells.
>No one is allowed to plunder these Christians, or destroy or spoil any of their churches, or houses of worship, or take any of the things contained within these houses and bring it to the houses of Islam. And he who takes away anything therefrom, will be one who has corrupted the oath of God, and, in truth, disobeyed His Messenger."
some people switch to Horde after playing Alliance for years. some people just want to be on the winning side, regardless of what that side is.
Leo Baker
>"They shall not be imposed upon by anyone to undertake a journey, or to be forced to go to wars or to carry arms; for the Muslims have to fight for them. Do no dispute or argue with them, but deal according to the verse recorded in the Quran, to wit: ‘Do not dispute or argue with the People of the Book but in that which is best’ [29:46]. Thus they will live favored and protected from everything which may offend them by the Callers to religion (Islam), wherever they may be and in any place they may dwell.
>Should any Christian woman be married to a Muslim, such marriage must not take place except after her consent, and she must not be prevented from going to her church for prayer. Their churches must be honored and they must not be withheld from building churches or repairing convents.
>They must not be forced to carry arms or stones; but the Muslims must protect them and defend them against others. It is positively incumbent upon every one of the follower of Islam not to contradict or disobey this oath until the Day of Resurrection and the end of the world."
Chase Green
>No one is allowed to plunder these Christians, or destroy or spoil any of their churches ok, but they do it anyway so your "no true scotmen" fallacy is applicable
Wyatt Brown
Wow, that's so nice.
So when do you stop beheading Christians and destroying their places of worship?
Robert Mitchell
inapplicable*
Caleb Brooks
Expectations: Your post Reality: Trucks of peace and ISIS
Dylan Ward
Absolutely this
Easton King
Modern Muslims who disregard the entire body of Orthodox scholarship. Saudi and ISIS are salagi. They're like protestant low church evangelical Christians, while Orthodox Muslims are like Catholics.
Josiah Rodriguez
Where do you find these Orthodox Muslims?
Adrian Foster
>Please respond i am so insecure
kek
Jack Richardson
Just because Christians perform unChristian acts does not invalidate Christianity.
Benjamin Thomas
True, desu
Lucas Hall
Your fanaticism is inspiring, and liberals kowtow to your excesses so it might seem like you are on the winning side. You are a fantastic enemy to have in a world where God has so long been a shadow, no doubt even the liberal pigs want more than anything to be molded into a radical order such as you promise, but you will not last. ISIS is defeated, and as much as you've infected our culture with your manifest destiny, violence and cruelty, we have infected your culture with nihilism, and you can't escape that monster.
Soon your children will wonder with amazement that anyone ever thought Allah existed, and you will die with the horrifying certainty that there is no God to take you into his arms.
Landon Cox
When the Jews stop paying them (protip, it's always the Saudis doing it) to do it
Kevin Myers
I wish christians would perform unchristian acts you wouldn't be in our countries
it's a question of numbers, too many of you are assholes so we don't trust you, why is this so hard to understand?
Charles Sanchez
>Don't judge us all by the few tens of millions of our fellow muslims that believe the wrong things
>Judge us by these handful of Islamic scholars who carefully construct their version of Islamic doctrine so as not to upset the western sentiments.
Jeremiah Nguyen
Everywhere. The four primary Sunni schools are the Hanafi, Shafi'i, Maliki and Hanbali, and the vast majority of Muslims adhere to one of them.
Salafis reject all of them - much like how evangelical Protestants reject Augustine, Aquinas etc.
Cameron Butler
The spread of Islam in Europe is fascination. For all intents and purposes the Islamic civilization is dead and petrified. I am curious if what we are witnessing is the birth of a new culture that is drawing inspiration the way the current civilization in the west did with Greece and Rome. It is a shame that I will probably never be able to appreciate this new culture being created but I hope it can borrow some good ideas from the peoples of Europe as it spreads to create something of beauty.
Jaxon Roberts
their IQ is too low for nihilism. That's the fatal flaw of liberalism. They thought they could defeat Islam the same way they did in Christianity through porn video games ironyfagging etc this only works on whites
Kayden Smith
cuck
Isaac Nguyen
>Most of the arguments against Islam found on popular websites are not only false, but are in fact ridiculously stupid and easily refuted
I wouldn't say most, but a lot of arguments are pretty bad. Especially the dispensationalist Protestant websites. I believe you are correct about the psychology of the conversation. They relied on weak arguments, lost debates, then converted rather than refine their arguments. It's an issue of spinelessness, combined with a lack of intellectual humility. They pick the stronger horse due to personal defeat.
Islam however is not an impregnable fortress of philosophical invincibility. It can be quite readily argued against. The problem is weak men relying on invalid arguments, not that most arguments are wrong. It's imminently necessary and possible for Western politicians to maintain anti-Islamic platforms. I think another issue is a lack of Christian understanding, and capacity for apologetics, aligned with a corrupt definition of "secularism."
Can you provide me with some common arguments you find easy to refute?
Nolan Ramirez
>German >far right
Jeremiah Ross
REKT REKT REKT FUCKING REKT
Josiah Edwards
If Christianity was a billionth as violent as Islam our kike media would be screaming about abolishing religion on a daily basis. The kike media only tolerates you savages because you are unwitting helpers in their crusade to destroy western civilization.
Hudson Diaz
Not impressed by digits?
Jason Williams
>ISIS is defeated
Good. Their interpretation of Islam is entirely modern and based on the rejection of tradition.
There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. If even 1% had the views you ascribe to them then the whole world would be burning right now. Foreign immigration to Europe is a serious problem, but Islam has nothing to do with it.
Tyler Thompson
Probably had his life threatened, same as all/most coverts; fear
Jeremiah Murphy
And the more Islam will be described as 'dangerous' and 'scary' the more people will be attracted to it. Funny that Islam is growing faster in the West than in 50% Muslim Lebanon
Jack Fisher
sorry I didn't sleep much. Nice digits senpai
Adrian Long
Islam is good for niggers.
Asher Sanchez
>Their interpretation of Islam is entirely modern and based on the rejection of tradition.
Do they even have an interpretation of Islam? They've been killing both Sunnis and Shias and went full takfir on everyone they didn't like. ISIS is mostly geopolitics than religion. Glad they're disappearing.
Bentley Young
Ashtiname is a forgery.
Muhammad was not alive for the conquest of Egypt. Also, the domed roofs of mosques, and even minarets themselves became staples of Muslim architecture about a century after the death of Muhammad.
The Ashtiname was most likely forged by local monasteries in order to escape brutal persecution.
David Sanders
Western civilization is in terminal decline. I am sorry if that idea pains you but it is the truth. Our people, our race, will survive but our civilization is doomed. The bargain that the west made with the devil, like Faust, is almost up. The only question that remains is what happens next. There are two big versions of Faust, in the first written by Marlowe the soul of th doctor is captured by Mephistopheles. In the second written by Goethe the soul of the good doctor is in the final moment saved by god. I guess what I am asking is which version of the play will be our fate. Will our noble nature save us at the last moment or are we resigned to the dust bin of history.
Owen Reyes
Shitskin converts to nigger religion. Wow tell me more Omar. Also get the fuck out of my country and get the fuck off my white board you filthy coons.
Jason Lee
The percent of muslims that hold those views is much higher than 1%. We know, there's been plenty of hard data gathered on the subject that proves extremism is the norm. The reason your numbers don't matter is the same reason China wasn't number one in GDP since the 70's. A billion of nothing is still nothing. Just because there are a million inbred retards in the desert that doesn't mean they will conquer shit lol.
Julian Nelson
>Shitskin He was German, get over it.
Dominic Hughes
The only reason Christcucks get pushed around is because they are cucks.
When was the last time you saw Muslims sit down and have a debate with feminists... LOL. Stop being the kid who gets picked on in schools, even atheists are less cucked.
Jonathan Torres
hey man, at this point as, long as we all get together and get rid of the Jews, I don't even care. other things will work themselves out
Eli Reyes
since the creation of islam muslims have been attacking europeans for no other reason than the fact that we are not muslim we have no reason to trust you peaceful muslims only exist when the west keeps a stronghold over them every time we leave you alone, you organize and attack us the US navy was literally created to defend their ships against muslims who attacked them for no reason this is the history of the the relation between the muslim world and the rest of us, you can't blame us for not trusting you
Hunter Nelson
There's all sorts of nonsense out there. Off the top of my head, the most common and most easily refuted are
>Allah is a moon God! >muh Taqqiyah! (Already seen ITT) >Muhammad made wars of aggression against the pagan Arabs >Muhammad was a wealthy warlord >Muslims want to wipe out other religions
Levi Diaz
>Most of the arguments against Islam found on popular websites are not only false, but are in fact ridiculously stupid and easily refuted
HAHAHAHA
Jesus, this is what muslims and marxists actually believe, isn't it? Yeah, false and easily refuted. Which is exactly why muslims and marxists never actually do so, but instead get extremely emotional and butthurt, demanding that censorship is put in place for their opponents because nasty words make them feel bad.
But let's reverse this argument. Two Social Democrat politicians seceded from their party to form their own pro-Erdogan party. So from this we can postulate that everything we say about Turks is correct, yes? And not only that, but that Social Democrats are obviously islamic fifth columnists. All of them.
Traitors have existed since the dawn of time. Smallminded men and women who only think in personal advantages. They thought they could get that with new, non-establishment parties because they offer the potential for growth. When they find out they can't just sit on their asses and let their mediocre skills propel them to glory, they take what is a very logical step from their perspective: They become muslims. Not only will this instantly give them the status they require within the communities of islamic and marxist idiots, but they don't even have to do anything for it. They literally just have to be themselves, but pay lip service to islam. No skills required, no development. You know, just like with the rest of the islamic world, which consists of shitholes filled with angry terrorists and criminals who want to live in a good world, but don't want to put the effort in. A match made in heaven.
Asher Gonzalez
Agreed, but modern Christianity is a pacifist shit show.
If the west is to be saved we have no choice but to genocide your people. We both understand the truth.
Brandon Howard
They should thank Shias for taqiyya, that's the only thing they can use against knowledgeable Muslims
Lucas Miller
>tfw we are infiltrating Islam
We are amongst you, you will be exposed in good time
Levi Sanchez
>the US navy was literally created to defend their ships against muslims who attacked them for no reason
Bentley Reyes
Salafi's aim to live exactly the way Muhammed did. Except for, you know, staying in their shitty desert, using modern means like the internet to spread their hateful message, etc. etc.
So they're essentially just a bunch of cuntrags who have found a way to not only arbitrarily declare themselves better than infidels, like all muslims, but to declare themselves better than all other muslims, too. Kind of a special club for the utmost hypocritical of muslims.
Parker Sanders
That's exactly what happened in the ancient Rome as christianity was gaining influence. Members of the elites who were often the most vocal opponents of the new religon, were also surprisingly quick in their conversion. People are opportunists. Very few are willing to fight for the lost cause.
And let's face it, in terms of social views, far right has probably more in common with muslims than with lefitsts.
Eli Scott
Trudeau pls go
Joseph Powell
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Jonathan Lee
No.
If you start anything you will be wiped out because you don't even have positive population replacement rate.
What you need to do is to tell (or force) your woman to marry and not focus on their careers. Then maybe you wouldn't feel so threatened by being replaced.
Adrian Scott
Not only are most of their arguments absurd, but 90% of anti-Islam sentiment is rooted in an impotent rage at the current state of the West and it's immigration policies.
Thomas Phillips
It is basically jealousy at this point.
Henry Fisher
War has a way of increasing birth rates. See baby boomers. The only solution is to exterminate the Semitic diseases.
Ryder Allen
desu i'm also thinkining to convert for quite some time now. ISLAM is conservative, woman know their place, they are pious and trandtional. christ. is cucked.
Oliver Morales
If you can count screaming in someone's face as refuting an argument then yes. Otherwise, nice try
Jayden Campbell
>most of their arguments are absurd >but I have refuted none of them even while making this statement
Point in case. It's all appeal of emotion, zero logical reasoning.
Nathan Parker
>What you need to do is to tell (or force) your woman to marry and not focus on their careers
Nice digits, fist of all, but you are correct and that is where threats like Islam come in. While we can not save our current civilization the external threats like Islam will force the European peoples to rise to the challenge lest they perish. This fight will both destroy what is left of the west and give birth to something new. A shame I wont live to see this new culture at its peak but given our history of white people it should be fantastic.
Nathaniel Powell
This might actually ban Islam and its proselytism in Europe.
Logan Mitchell
nice non argument do you deny that the barbary war was the first war the US got engaged in as an independent country? Do you deny that it was muslims attacking them for no other reason than the fact that they were not muslims and therefore it was ok to attack them?
you fuckers have always been like that a peaceful muslim is a westernised muslim, a muslim with our boot on his head, and thats why we'll keep doing it
Jordan Wilson
THE problem is choosing to let a religion dictate your life to the point of ruining and fleeing your shithole countries to western societies with catholic principles and try to demand the same from them
If the point of Islam becomes an aspect of identity over religion, then Muslims need to respect the identity of the christians in the Middle East that originally inhabited the lands
People are allowed to ridicule Islam for the threat it is and you’re just as bad as Trudeau apologizing for a Muslim girl who faked her own assault
Austin Rodriguez
>Give my bait attention or you're a mutt!!!!
Easton Stewart
It's much easier to attack Islam. Instead of actually doing something to change current immigration policy, these people sublimate their rage and direct it towards Islam - so they can feel like they're actually doing something to change things by posting fallacious arguments and rants online. In reality they're cowards who do nothing to improve their situation.
Hunter Brown
WHITE SHARIAH IS COMING BOYS
Zachary Allen
keep pushing our buttons fucker and see what happens we exterminated a group of parasites before, we can do it again
Isaac Thomas
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Sebastian Morgan
probably a t*rk mutt
Charles Thompson
Oh lol please come on
Bentley Wilson
Meant to say apologizing to*
And yes, taqiyya is real
Connor Foster
>the cheapest sort of pride is a religious pride
Carter Wood
Burn in hell muzzie.
Justin Bailey
If y'all westerners doesn't like Sunni or Shia, because muh propaganda. you can research & find about Ibadi, who was pacifist and suitable for cucked westerner like y'all, even Ibadi wasn't cucks, they only pacifist.
Luis Myers
They chose the path of worldly acceptance and privilege and will burn in hell for it.
Oliver Wood
So you defeat Islam and then what? You are still cucked. Feminists will disappear during wartime but will be right back to champion their rights after it is over. Your population replacement rate will drop again after a 1 generation boom.
The cycle repeats.
Your culture needs to change. Take women's rights away and we can both live in peace.
Benjamin Perez
Islam is literally going to conquer the world isn't it
Austin Hughes
Indonesianbro, Westerners are at a point where they don't know what to like or what not to like, they're just lost and divided
Nathan Mitchell
If instead you westerners are more interested in historically prominent events that affect their current day lives, I encourage you all to research ancient Mesopotamia, specifically Assyrians, they’re responsible for giving modern man irrigation, traffic signs, underwater breathing mechanisms and more! They also speak a form of Aramaic which Jesus himself spoke
Angel Gray
AFD and Wilders aren’t far right though.
Cooper Powell
Lol your shit country was responsible for helping the US invade mine.