When do we start getting western anime? Even the Chinese are better than most of us. :^)

When do we start getting western anime? Even the Chinese are better than most of us. :^)

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RWBY

Except it just a beautiful copy with nothing genuine inside. Like hundreds of Chinese products out there. I appriciate their spirit to try to catch up to Japan. But part of me think they will fail sooner or later or loses the anime spirit we all love.

Voltron has been a thing for quite a while and it's better than most anime

Why would anyone in their right mind want current-day Western media to produce anime when it can barely produce good non-anime shows?
Also the Chinese are talentless hacks and shouldn't be used as an example for anything.

The French are already light years ahead collaborating with Ghibli, something that China will never ever dream of doing. :^)

Steven Universe is our answer to anime :^)
There are people out there who actually think this

....Avatar? Teen Titans?
You didn't say it had to be GOOD western anime

You know what, after all this time I'm starting lo like this chink shill poster.

Nice bump you fucking samefagging chinkshill. Fuck off.

serious answer we don't know.

there's powerhouse animation and studio izune"super underdeveloped atm"

eta 5-10 years for NAnime "north americas anime", there needs to be more talent focused in localized production but that won't happen since there aint enough animators for the inbetweening unless they outsource which some indie animators have no clue how to make that happen.

In short no enough talent and infrastructure atm imo.

Also retas pro is not in english yet other than the fan translation.

Avatar is better than 99% of anime out there.

>forgetting wakfu

Are there subs for this that aren't also hardsubbed in Nipponese?

Netflix is trying

Western anime? Those are cartoons and you can talk about those in

Probably never. We're too expensive. Chinese and Japanese and Asians will work for wages that they can make work-- you cannot make $2/hr work in the US.

$2 per frame "inbetweening"

keyframes payed in cuts "$20-60 per cut"

There are no talented western animators anymore because all the major production companies jumped ship to CGI. Only television cartoons are still 2D, and when they aren't animated in flash their still using ugly blob-shaped calarts character designs for static gag SoLs. Western 2D animation is dead. It died with Shrek and Pixar.

Everyone outsources the work that needs to be cheap to the koreans/chineese anyway. Besides that if you look at the budget for any of the cartoons on American TV you'll see that most of them are much better funded than the average anime.

The real problem isn't expense or how much you have to pay these guys, but that there's no market for it, and there's basically no talent pool. The american public just really doesn't care all that much for traditional cartoons. As for the talent pool, in all honesty in the west there are basically almost no jobs for 2D animation these days, compare that to say 3D animation which will get you a job at any video game company, most CGI and special effects companies, and even at "animation" companies like Disney or dream works.

We have cartoons.

We will never have anything close to the current form of Japanese anime for a number of reasons:

1. The large majority of cartoon and anime fans in the west are multi-color haired, big red glasses rimmed, obese SJWs that are the literal abominations of the 1st world, and a bunch of asian implants. They tend to be loud, obnoxious, and extremely childish (moreso than you'd get here, which is pretty childish already). And they are also vicious and will stop at nothing to get exactly want they want.

So that would mean no boobs/butts/sexualization of any kind of any age or denomination, and the story would be about banding together and friendship but in a peaceful happy world setting etc. Point is, the entire hemisphere of cartoons in the West teeters on either "lol so randum!! xD" and "look at us, this merry band of MULTI-RACIAL, MULTI-ETHNIC, MULTI-GENDER, MULTI-SEXUAL ORIENTATION persons (man or woman may be offensive to non-binary gendered individuals)" and that will only ever grow from this point forward.

2. Anime has its charms in fantasy and self-insert stories, the charicatures of singular drama are not built as well as they are here, but at the same time they are not nearly as catering as they are over there. Couple that with the constant outflow of material to generate anime from via LNs and manga, versus comics in the West which are basically monopolized by the people in part 1 above. So the content here would be even more stale than the droves of isekai and SOL we get now.

3. The animation styles vastly differ, the artists in the west would have to completely change drawing and animation styles, and most things here are geared well above the 10 FPS shit they slap together over in Japan and China and the dog country.

Face it. In the West, you have no choice. You can only shovel down the garbage that is Steven Universe or whatever other dogshit they have on Cartoon Network.

Don't forget Thundercats

I started paying attention to the western animation situation with the new season of samurai jack. After browsing Sup Forums for a while, i realized how fucking terrible is the cartoon industry at the moment.
Their situation is fucking horrible. A cesspool of lack of creativity and talentless artists who think they are bigshit while can't draw anything, in an extremely greedy and soulless corporative environment.

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it's already coming calm the fuck down

Castlevania is coming out next month though

> wakfu
> rating Y-7
How about no.

Oh look, it's time to report this thread again. When will you maozedong cocksuckers learn?

>1. The large majority of cartoon and anime fans in the west are multi-color haired, big red glasses rimmed, obese SJWs that are the literal abominations of the 1st world, and a bunch of asian implants. They tend to be loud, obnoxious, and extremely childish (moreso than you'd get here, which is pretty childish already). And they are also vicious and will stop at nothing to get exactly want they want.
Those are the steven universe fans. They think they are anime fans because they reblog sailor moon gifs on their tumblr and spammed YoI when it was airing, but they are too sensitive to have a stomach for nearly anything else and when you get down to it they haven't really seen much. Western anime fans are still fat, cringy autists. Equally as obnoxious, a little more smelly.

It's actually pretty good. Don't knock it till you try it.

>That fucking face

The Last Airbender was good.

Depressing isn't it?

Oh well, at least the Asians haven't given up on this medium yet, if we are lucky that won't stop any time soon.

Partially true. there's no real demand and talent is navigating towards the giants of the industry or into gaming/advertisement.

That being said rwby proves that it is still possible to market a indie animation online series and have a audience for it. So there is hope in way. not to say that rwby was profitible or anything since we dont know.

But there is space of there for indie western online anime series if one was to make it.

Getting talent together and having a figure head or leader is probably the primary obstacles.

imo.

yeah they're pretty leading the charge. I'll probably shit bricks if they start to adapting comic like from image kick off a mini american anime wave after castlevania.

We're getting more and more CG anime every season. Need I remind you of Kemono Friends?

It's pretty stupid that would wouldn't allow all eastern animation to be discussed here.

not that guy but it's got a pretty cool antagonist with a decent story, he is trying to commit mass genocide so he can go back in time and unfuck himself from going crazy. He assumes the genocide is morally acceptable since he's going to undo it by time traveling in the first place.

Avatar is a good cartoon.

Im not even foam about the genuine cowboy Bebop sketch ruined. Im just ask what drives anyone to draw over ANYONE ELSE'S work, ever?

What kind of disregard for other's works is that? How can someone even keep a job after that? How do you even function in any company?

I thought that was a children's show so I didn't pay attention to it. It was CG?

How about go fuck yourself? Do you see spanish soap operas being discussed on Sup Forums despite them both being """""WESTERN""""""? Fuck your chink shit.

Sup Forums only talks about cape shit, """kino""", feet, and little girls. There's no rule or anything stopping them from talking about any live action tv show or movie regardless of origin.

I dont have it with me right now, but i remember reading an interview with the key animator of who framed roger rabbit.
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He went to some arts college and was disgusted by what he saw. The students there had absolutely no idea how animate stuff, the didnt understood how to make movements natural, they didnt understood basic anatomy, all they did was artsy farty surrealistic / minimalist shit.

When he talked privately with the college teachers and rector, they told him they were depressed about the situation but their students where that kind of people who wouldnt accept criticism and had parents paying 200k+ tuition, keeping the institution running.