Is Pedophila a thought crime?

Julian Davis
Julian Davis

Reminder: This was perfectly normal 100 years ago and still normal in Mexico and true believers of Islam.

Other urls found in this thread:

supforums.com/thread/157944771/politics
telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/7079641/Women-lose-90-per-cent-of-eggs-by-30.html
autismspeaks.org/science/science-news/large-study-parent-age-autism-finds-increased-risk-teen-moms
newhampshire.com/state-government/Gov-Sununu-wants-to-raise-minimum-age-to-get-married-01252018
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States
thespruce.com/estimated-median-age-marriage-2303878
independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/200000-children-married-us-15-years-child-marriage-child-brides-new-jersey-chris-christie-a7830266.html
cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/marriage_divorce_tables.htm

Robert Nguyen
Robert Nguyen

for the record i think fucking kids is sick and wrong. Yolo.

Jackson Anderson
Jackson Anderson

bullshit you think its wrong. you're scum trying to push pedophilia. hang yourself.

Christopher Reyes
Christopher Reyes

You're assuming the guy fucked his wife immediately, you fucking pedo.

Brody Ramirez
Brody Ramirez

wasnt this guy ran out of town? deceptive cunts

Jackson Thompson
Jackson Thompson

Being a pedophile isn't illegal, fucking a child is. You're not punished for thoughtcrimes. If this was the case every men would be in jail for rape.

Jordan Thompson
Jordan Thompson

That look on her face
Bitch, he's MY man, you hussies can back the fuck up

Brandon Mitchell
Brandon Mitchell

Thinking itself is not a crime

Mason Murphy
Mason Murphy

Not ran out of town, but people sure as shit didn't approve and it went the equivalent of viral after someone published the story. This is literally the youngest marriage in US history

They even made a horror movie called child bride loosely based on this. The slogan was "WHEN LUST IS CALLED JUST"

So fuck off op

Owen Rivera
Owen Rivera

He didn't have sex with her until she was 14 years old(she had her first child at 15)

James Flores
James Flores

He missed out on the best years

Christian Carter
Christian Carter

judging by the op he had oral

Juan Martin
Juan Martin

Sneedville
Formerly Chuckville

Ayden Russell
Ayden Russell

I guess it can work in societies that are all around less perverted than ours. Obviously you shouldn't fuck children. Today's society is too hypersexualised for something like this to work. Let's clean up everything and then we can argue if a young adult should be able to marry a child.

Elijah Hughes
Elijah Hughes

Sage

This has been posted repeatedly go fuck a goat. pedophilia is a big NO. Consider Slitting your own neck or better yet come here in my country and we'll do it for you fucking PEDO

Juan Perez
Juan Perez

The age difference is just right, but 9? Christ, you have nothing in common. She can't even add yet.

The fact that someone that young can actually turn someone on sexually means said person needs to be shot.

If she were 17 and he was 22, that would still be a little weird, but legally acceptable as far as I know. I think the window is 5 years if they are under 18.

The scale should he exponential. So, if she's 18, a guy in his early to mid twenties could date her, bit it would be boring as fuck unless you both don't drink alcohol. Who doesn't drink at that age?

If she's 28-35, the age range can jump to a man ten to twenty years older without being weird. In fact, it's preferred in the case of both parties because a man is usually ready to settle down and wants a woman who is still young enough to bear children.

A 60 year old banging a 20 year old is fucking retarded. It's legal, bit that have zero in common. So it is purely about sex in exchange for money.

People under the age of 18 should be dating people their age. Are their outliers? Sure. But, this should be the general consensus on the matter and the people who stray shouldn't be looked up to.

Nowadays, men should just stay away from them altogether. Just fap and/or visit an Asian massage parlor if you want the company. The risk/reward ratio I'd like playing Russian roulette, but with all of the chambers loaded. Not worth it, even if you are celibate.

Brandon Watson
Brandon Watson

Thoughts are not crimes, actions are.

Elijah Price
Elijah Price

hot as fuck. lucky son of a gun.

Mason Hill
Mason Hill

Her parents must have sold her to him. They were even greater villains than the "husband".

Ian Williams
Ian Williams

they had a happy marriage and made lots of white babies. where is the problem?

Nathaniel Davis
Nathaniel Davis

yes i feel bad for my impure thoughts, but honestly, i wasn't always like this. when i was 15 years old , i liked 15 year old bodies, and i thought, damn, when i get older, i will literally be a pedo to like girls of this age. now im 32. and i blame Sup Forums with its lolis, that shit is a gateway drug. i never searched for cp in my life, when i actually saw it rarely on /b/ it actually disgusted me greatly. but sometimes i have THOUGHTS, should someone be KILLED for their THOUGHTS? i would never hurt anyone under the legal age of 18, i've barley had sex in my life been a neetlord mostly, im scared of STDS/having to force the other person to show their id for sex/being accused of rape/closeness with another human so maybe YOU SHOULD SLIT YOUR THROATS < dont actually do this

but anyway, this is where the real problem lies

supforums.com/thread/157944771/politics

ARTIFICAL PORN. people will take kids heads and put it on porn. that will fucking blur the lines even more you fucks that i love

also i used to be left before you guys red pilled me, fucking niggers. everytime i look at a black i think its a NIGGER and have hard time looking at them but MOST ARE HUMAN AND NICE. there are bad niggers tho def id say 1/3 are bad 2/3 are nice

Dylan Taylor
Dylan Taylor

yes i feel bad for my impure thoughts, but honestly, i wasn't always like this. when i was 15 years old , i liked 15 year old bodies, and i thought, damn, when i get older, i will literally be a pedo to like girls of this age. now im 32. and i blame Sup Forums with its lolis, that shit is a gateway drug. i never searched for cp in my life, when i actually saw it rarely on /b/ it actually disgusted me greatly. but sometimes i have THOUGHTS, should someone be KILLED for their THOUGHTS? i would never hurt anyone under the legal age of 18, i've barley had sex in my life been a neetlord mostly, im scared of STDS/having to force the other person to show their id for sex/being accused of rape/closeness with another human so maybe YOU SHOULD SLIT YOUR THROATS < dont actually do this
lol didn't read

Carter Sanchez
Carter Sanchez

You need to stop watching porn, stop masturbating altogether. Decades of addiction has given you degenerate fetishes. I'd recommend you stop for at least a year, if not for good.

Kayden Stewart
Kayden Stewart

people did it 100 years ago and still do it in shithole countries so its ok

That's like saying circumcision is alright because they did it 100 years ago and still do it in America.

Jack Price
Jack Price

nice spacing

also wayyyyyyyyy to long
if 16-18, questionable, maybe
if 18+ literary who cares (xcept the family, maybe)

Josiah Gray
Josiah Gray

Honest question guys. My daughter is 13 and went to her first school dance last weekend. She came downstairs in a new dress looking like the prettiest little thing on the face of the earth and I was ashamed that my feelings of pride were mixed with a sharp pang of what felt uncomfortably like jealously. Is this normal or am I am incestuous pedo in the making. It genuinely unsettled me.

Isaiah Jones
Isaiah Jones

Have you ever got an erection over your daughter?

David Stewart
David Stewart

Perfectly normal 100 years ago
No it wasn't. It's never been normal.

Brody Ward
Brody Ward

Not as such but I've come dangerously close a couple of times lately.

God I'm such a fucking degenerate.

Dylan Collins
Dylan Collins

Through most of history first period meant time for family to find a husband for the daughter. Strict age based laws are stupid as nature has a built in timer that tells you when it's done getting set up to make a baby.

Levi Wright
Levi Wright

I am from Oman. In my homeland many men marry girls half their age. The feminists try to change it but married women fight back. Only the opinion of married woman is counted. A unmarried woman in her 20's is considered old and unwanted. We consider any women speaking out against our cultural practices as a traitor and sometimes we kill them too. The un tried to interfere many years ago and the village murdered them and buried their bodies in the caves. We have westerner activists try to change our society so we kill them too. I remember when the imams son spoke out against our custom and he was shot the next day. We called him jewish hakim because he was scheming like
jew.

Josiah Sanchez
Josiah Sanchez

Why don't you fuck off to Oman then if it's so perfect?

Nathan Reed
Nathan Reed

explain that to german police

Brandon Harris
Brandon Harris

Get your brown/black ass back to Oman.

Justin Ramirez
Justin Ramirez

This was perfectly normal 100 years ago
Not in white countries, fucking children has never been the norm here. Fuck off kike.

Jayden Nelson
Jayden Nelson

No work. Central government corrupt. When tax collector comes we hide our good stuff. I like the mountains so much better. We chew khat and shoot guns. My grandfather makes alcohol and sells to city people.

I come to america to make money for myself. I run my uncles store. I sell beer and cigarettes to make extra money. I miss my home. America is nice. The only good part is central government is weaker in oman than america. I hate the stupid jihadis who wage war and get people killed in yemen. I hate saud and wahabi. They ruin islam. Keep killing isis america.

Jaxon Davis
Jaxon Davis

I am wheat. Not nigger like your old president obama

Lincoln Taylor
Lincoln Taylor

"Women lose 90 per cent of 'eggs' by 30

Scientists have discovered the reason why women find it difficult to conceive later in life - they have used up 90 per cent of their "ovarian reserve" by the age of 30."

telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/7079641/Women-lose-90-per-cent-of-eggs-by-30.html

Telling women to wait until they're 23+ to have kids is a recipe for disaster. Not only have they used up 90% of their ovarian reserve by 30, those eggs arent to the same quality as they were in their teens. Children to older mothers have a higher chance of mental disorders and other debilitating diseases.

Women hit their PEAK at 16. This is a biological fact, then they decline from there.

Who are the people pushing for women to have careers, travel, waiting out to have kids and promoting sexual promiscuity in their most prime years? mostly people on the left

Logan Bell
Logan Bell

finding underdeveloped girls sexualy attractive
normal

Luis Perry
Luis Perry

Children to older mothers have a higher chance of mental disorders and other debilitating diseases.
Women hit their PEAK at 16

Autism rates were 18 percent higher among children born to teen moms than among those born to moms in their 20s.
Autism rates were 15 percent higher in children born to mothers in their 40s, compared to those born to moms in their 20s
autismspeaks.org/science/science-news/large-study-parent-age-autism-finds-increased-risk-teen-moms

So there's actually a slightly higher risk that your teen waifu will give birth to a sperglord, compared to a woman in her 40s. The study also shows that the father's age plays an even bigger role.
Autism rates were 66 percent higher among children born to dads over 50 years of age than among those born to dads in their 20s. Autism rates were 28 percent higher when dads were in their 40s versus 20s.

And no, you marrying a younger woman will not help.
Autism rates also rose with widening gaps between two parents’ ages. These rates were highest when dads were between 35 and 44 years old and their partners were 10 or more years younger. Conversely, rates rose when moms were in their 30s and their partners were 10 or more years younger.

Having kids between 20 and 30 is ideal for both men and women.

Andrew Baker
Andrew Baker

he did

it's not hard with a bit of practice to go balls deep on a girl that size, if your 6 inches or smaller

Levi Hall
Levi Hall

Don't bother, Sup Forums supports the roastie factory that is "age of consent". They are so cucked on the issue that it's amusing, the truly are garbage and have been programmed to drive themselves into decline.

FACT, AOC laws create a teenage cock carousel and ruins women before they are even legally ALLOWED to fund a partner that can support them.

FACT, it would be better to allow teen girls to partner with men in their 20s.

FACT, this would set up the proper male-led relationship dynamic.

FACT, women's natural reproductive abilities present before 18 and end sooner than men's, so this makes sense naturally.

Joshua Hughes
Joshua Hughes

It is a psy op from ancient times that was propegated through religion. The sexual abuse of a child is energetically about as low as you can go. It creates a spiritual shift in a person and the child that creates dissociation and further separation from Source/the ALL. It creates a virus in the mind and forces the heart to the background. Breaking through the damage this causes is difficult for many and impossible for some.

The evil ones have had their hands in every major religion. The pedophilia stems from the same roots user. Know any message by the character of the message and not your perception of the messenger.

Thinking I'm nuts? Why do Luciferians abuse children from infancy? Why do Scientologists target children and teens and encourage them to separate from their families? Why is it said that the best child sacrifices are the most pure and young? Why are the upper echelons of the people who practice these arts so wealthy and powerful? Obviously something that is sacred and pure that all children have is the target... Broken minds. Broken hearts. Hidden souls.

Xavier Powell
Xavier Powell

There is a difference between fucking little girls and marrying at young age...

Jaxson James
Jaxson James

REMINDER: ITS NORMAL IN SHITHOLES

the absolute state of nonces

Julian Powell
Julian Powell

You will punish yourself for your physical, emotional, mental and spiritual transgressions user. Thats judgment day user. Your subconscious remembers. And all thoughts are energy. Energy that creates patterns. Resonance.
Don't go too far out on your thought train unless you want to really see where a dark path leads.

Brayden Ortiz
Brayden Ortiz

Isn't this going to be moot when icing your young eggs and than later on when you're old can tell the company to impregnate the young egg you set aside?

Tyler Howard
Tyler Howard

you have been going to every fucking thread and mass replying to everyone every fucking time you have something to say
FUCKING
KILL
YOURSELF

Levi Barnes
Levi Barnes

it was never normal. kill all pedos

Charles Murphy
Charles Murphy

well people weren't oversexed animals 100 years ago. You could marry a kid at 9 and not touch a hair on her head until she was... well probably like 14. But still, "marriage" didn't carry strong sexual implications back then.

Also, it doesn't matter whether or not it's legal here. I see muzzies come in all the time with 12 year old blonde girls. Sometimes it's a soccer team or something so it's almost innocent enough to not draw attention.

Other times it's a college age dude and some girl who hasn't gotten her braces off yet stopping in at 3am on a tuesday and you know some shit is going wrong.

Lincoln Hall
Lincoln Hall

FACT - most 16 year old parents cannot support themselves and have no frame of reference of how to be a parent. Peak would imply that they are overall at peak state. I would argue that mentally and emotionally most 16 year olds are train wrecks. Esepcially scared pregnant ones.

Gabriel Barnes
Gabriel Barnes

"marriage" didn't carry strong sexual implications back then.

You truly are an idiot, aren't you. Marriage meant more back then, including womanly duties, than it does now. That guy in the OP was clearly dicking that little girl.

William Johnson
William Johnson

Where do you work that you see all this?

Landon Brown
Landon Brown

Depends on the pigmentation and language skill. A shade of poop and lacking literacy helps.

Oliver Myers
Oliver Myers

this is not normal here and you could go to jail

Kayden Ramirez
Kayden Ramirez

A broken society makes it so that 16 year olds are super immature and not capable of fulfilling their natural role in society.

Let's not fix this problem, that keeps women children until they are 28. Rather, lets further ensure this is the case by LEGALLY PREVENTING them from getting married until some arbitrary age.

Lets ensure they are legally required to ride the cock carousel all through their teens and likely into their 20s so that we can ensure they are thoroughly ruined by the time they are likely to get married.

Good plan...

Nicholas Campbell
Nicholas Campbell

Marry your daughters off at 13
Your daughter is a slut in her 30s without a husband

Pick one

Oliver Wood
Oliver Wood

I didnt suggest it was a good plan. I suggested that the current state of 16 year olds is incompatible with yours. There are infinite ways to solve the problem, but first the world needs to wake up and realize children are having their childhood stolen from them. Slowly. Like the frog in boiling water.

Ryan Bennett
Ryan Bennett

It actually wasn't perfectly normal back then, even then people were still mostly getting married in their 20s, that has been the case throughout industrialized history. This guy was a hayseed and by the way it's still legal to get married young with parental consent in many places (if you jump through legal hoops you can still marry 13 year old girls in New Hampshire for example). But it isn't the norm and hasn't been for a very long time.

newhampshire.com/state-government/Gov-Sununu-wants-to-raise-minimum-age-to-get-married-01252018

Joseph Phillips
Joseph Phillips

Pederasty is a very redpilled institution and takes power away from feminists. No doubt this is why they were heavily involved in shaming it.

Leo Gonzalez
Leo Gonzalez

This was perfectly normal 100 years ago
We also used to insulate homes with asbestos and paint with lead. Just cause we used to do something doesn't make it a good idea now.
and still normal in Mexico and true believers of Islam.
Do you really want to be like the shitskins?

Jordan Hill
Jordan Hill

Your only evidence is someone calling for the age to be raised? Yes, the average age of marriage was early 20s, but it wasn't uncommon for people to be married in adolescence, and the age of marriage was as low as 8 in many states in the 19th century, so "perfectly normal" is an exaggeration, but so is your nonsense.

Ryan Lee
Ryan Lee

Out pedo.
It could maybe work pre-degeneracy, but not now when you are full to the brim with pornographic impulses you fucking sicko.

John Cooper
John Cooper

Shut up divider. Propaganda is sickening.

Jacob Martinez
Jacob Martinez

normal 100 years ago
posts the same picture every 10 days

David Hughes
David Hughes

What are you talking about? In general, they are having their childhood EXTENDED for them. You cherish childhood too much and adulthood too little. It STARTS with setting up different expectations for them, which would be finding a husband before or instead of college. They can marry in their mid teens and have children around 18-20. You jumping in to white knight against a non-injustice will only make matters worse. I am talking teen marriage, why argue against it? Without it, they will continue their current behavior, period. YES, even girls currently 16 would benefit from being allowed to marry and the change in outlook that would bring

Blake Clark
Blake Clark

That's because younger mothers have had more vaccines and therefore their immune systems more compromised by nagalese and heavy metals.

Ian Cruz
Ian Cruz

paedophilia is (((God)))'d word put into effect

Wyatt Bailey
Wyatt Bailey

You assume too much about me.

Are you a parent user? Do you have experience with teen pregnancy? Do you have grandkids? Where does all your life experience come from?

Tyler Bell
Tyler Bell

Its the truth. Pederasty places men's desires into young men instead of women, taking sexual power away from women which is always bad, and putting it to use to raise the next generation of men successfully. Of course, its a very non-pleb institution which is why its usually propagated within aristocratic circles or higher learning. The liberal "conservative" plebs aren't intelligent enough to understand its benefit.

Jayden Stewart
Jayden Stewart

It’s fine as long as she’s pubescent, ie has menstruated before and shows signs of breast development. At that point she is no longer a girl, but a young woman. Traditionally this happened around the age of 13. Sometimes girls hit piberty a few years younger than that now because of xenoestrogenic endocrine disrupters. IMO it’s better to stick with the traditional age in those cases. So my criteria would be
- ovulates (evidenced by menstruation)
- breast development and pubic hair
- 13 years or older
If all of these criteria are met then it’s not pedophilia. You’d have to be a fucking idiot to think it was. When I was 13 I was already having sex with young women my own age. They were cock hungry little sluts, some of them. LMAO at the idea of “protecting their innocence.” These 13 year old women have been watching porn and rubbing out orgasms every night while sucking off their class mates at school. It’s fucking retarded to look at a horny, fertile female with C cup breasts and think “child.” Liberal parents especially are fucking retards. They encourage their kids to use dildos in sex Ed but freak the fuck out if they date someone a few years older. Boys take longer to mature both physically and psychologically so it’s only natural that young women date older men. Typically you see pairings of young men age 18-25 with young women age 13-16. That’s the most natural coupling.

Sebastian Peterson
Sebastian Peterson

Sodomites of any age should be put to death and executed by law. You fags are actually predatory. You aren’t going to “marry" anybody. All you want to do is sodomize boys, destroy their minds and abuse their bodies. Liberals pull out pitch forks at the thought of a man marrying a virginal young woman but tolerate disgusting abominations like you. Well let me tell you: God hates fags and you will burn in hell with the rest of them.

Jaxon Howard
Jaxon Howard

I have a 2yo son, he will be protected but won't be coddled. There is a problem with teenage pregnancy, that comes as a result of teenage fathers and having children out of wedlock. This same problem exists in adults, how is it best solved? Marriage to a man that can lead and commitment. You are much like the niggers that argue white people can't have an opinion. I have to be a grandparent now? What a bullshit double standard, if I was agreeing with you it would not be an issue. You are not being logical about this situation, just think about why that is.

Kayden Myers
Kayden Myers

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States
Alaska: 14
North Carolina: 14
Many states have no floor at all if certain legal conditions are met
Tennessee girls as young as 10 were married in 2001

thespruce.com/estimated-median-age-marriage-2303878
median age to marry in 1890 for females: 22

I concede that it was more common in the previous century than it is today, but it was still uncommon, despite being legal then as it basically still is today.

Gavin Gutierrez
Gavin Gutierrez

this was normal 100 years ago

Christian Hughes
Christian Hughes

accuses all gays of molesting boys
defends molesting little girls himself

Dylan Lewis
Dylan Lewis

I never said you had to be anything. And I never said any of the other stuff you projected onto me. I asked you questions because I was curious about where your perspective comes from. Your opinion is equally as valid as anybody else's including my own. I can see though that my words have somehow offended you so I'll leave you to debate with someone else.

I wish you well as a father. You're obviously passionate about your son's future and what a good life for his generation would look like. The world could use more of that. Blessings user.

Isaiah Perry
Isaiah Perry

Reminder these threads are only posted by highly biased pedophiles, that only wish to justify their sickness

Jonathan Flores
Jonathan Flores

I agree except for the arbitrary age made to fit some definition rather than nature. Whenever the natural change occurs it what is relevant. It if then that the girl will start experiencing feelings associated with adulthood and it is then she should START looking for husband. This might even take until she is 18 or older. If she finds a good man at 15 or 16, no problem with marriage. The father should, of course, play a role in this. The man should be a moral and kind man that can provide and lead.

Justin King
Justin King

they have nothing in common
You must be new to dating. She could be 30 and you still wont have anything in common. Wtf do u want to talk to her about, makeup?

17 y.o girl + 22 y.o man = weird
That sounds like half of the world's romantic couples. Travel more.

She must be at least 28 to date a man much older

More like 20. kys youre fucking retarded and brainwashed. travel more

Jeremiah Thompson
Jeremiah Thompson

Nice hypocrisy, idiot. Let's read Rind et al. Its a myth that sexual relations "destroy minds". LGBT+ and liberals are just as hateful towards pederasts.

Caleb Clark
Caleb Clark

It was never normal in the US. The reason for marriages with such age discrepancies and for the infamous close-cousin marriages was population density. Small, isolated rural populations with few prospective marital partners over too large an area forced some people (in extreme circumstances) to enter into less-than-ideal marriages. It wasn't for some degenerate purpose such as incest or pederasty, but rather because there was no other choice.

Evan Young
Evan Young

A female with breasts, pubic hair, and a menstrual cycle is a WOMAN by any scientific, objective measure. She is no longer a “little girl” because she’s sexually mature and fertile, as advertised by her own body. In fact if her parents are loose with her then she’s probably having sex already. Imagine for a moment that a male of any other living creature encountered a fertile, ovulating female who herself communicated that she was receptive to sexual advances... and that this male turned away because she was “too young.” Well guess what retard, if you don’t do it than somebody else WILL fuck her and what you’re going to get when she turns 18 is a woman who has been pumped and dumped by many men before you! Making you, in some sense, a cuck.

Colton Moore
Colton Moore

Roastie detected

Oliver Russell
Oliver Russell

Why did you post the median age evidence? I already said that was true. However, the median age means there are much younger marriages happening, if you understand basic mathematics. It was not uncommon.

Brandon White
Brandon White

does not dispute any point made.

Noted. I am a big boy, just because I react strongly does not mean that I am somehow injured.
Thank you for the well wishes, I do feel strongly about the state of society and what is being done to children. It is my job, more than anything, to make my children great and admirable people. This tends to sound cold, but of course it is not. These are human relationships and memories, that is part of being a great person.

Christian Morgan
Christian Morgan

The perverts, commies, kikes and mudslimes must be banned from the discussion first and the relationships between people of the same age must be restored to sanity before we discuss age of consent.

Asher Gonzalez
Asher Gonzalez

No one is promoting pedophilia or promiscuity. We are talking about post-pubescent women looking for a husband, a process which will likely take years. We are seeking to avoid what you think we promote. You have not read the posts in this thread, obviously, you are working off of preconceived notions.

Carson Stewart
Carson Stewart

It was never normal in the US
Edgar Allen Poe wrote his famous poem "Annabell Lee" a few years after he joined the military and was stationed in Charleston, SC. He was around 20 years old and the subject of the poem, "Annabel Lee" was a local Charlestonian woman of the local aristocracy, and she was about 13 years old. They started dating, but her parents didn't approve of some poor northern soldier dating their daughter so they cut off the union and confined Anabel Lee to the house for months to prevent her from seeing Poe. Anabel Lee then fell sick and died. The point being that it was in fact common in the US.

Liam Lee
Liam Lee

It doesn't even matter, this is an argument that what society does or promotes is inherently valid and what they shun is invalid. It's a non-argument, it doesn't address the actual issue.

Tyler Allen
Tyler Allen

I agree with what you have said. I also see my mission as the same. I am a stay at home homeschooling parent who is not down with the world teaching my boys how to live. I don't perceive you as broken. However, I would offer that an effective strategy might lie in toning your rhetoric down a bit until youve at least had a chance to understand if a person actually disagrees with you.

I didnt argue your points because I agree with them in essence. Allowing children to have a real childhood so that they are actually prepared to function as adults and be stable parents is fantastic in my mind. I'm just not sure it is widely possible in today's world until we stop allowing institutions and media to brainwash our children into being hypersexualized messes. In my mind we have to get real about the root evil that perpetuates the system we are in and stop it at its core. Until we address that the symptoms of the problem can only be treated. I applaud you for doing what you can in the meantime.

Josiah Gonzalez
Josiah Gonzalez

Annabell Lee actually most likely represents Poe's wife Virginia Eliza Clemm Poe whom he married when she was 13 and he 26, but he has a very morbid and created a story far more suitable to his taste.

Chase Brown
Chase Brown

*had a very morbid mind

Jaxson Smith
Jaxson Smith

Not even a pedo but I’ve never understood why people claim they’d kill torture and mutilate any pedo they came across when they’re also getting fucked in the ass by their own governments. So give me 1 (one) “uno” argument against it and see if I can’t poke any holes in it

Gavin Morris
Gavin Morris

What do you think it's the ideal age of consent?

William Jones
William Jones

While there is no behavioral or mental barrier to pedophilia (all mammals and primates have it) there is huge societal stigma associated with it as you basically retard the female to her reproductive role. Slim chances of education or attaining a higher than house-wife job. The main reason why it was commonplace 100 years ago is that education was not as complex for the simple life of the 1900's. Nowadays a girl of 11 years with a child to bring up will be unable to function in our society properly and therefore bring that child up in a similarly dysfunctional manner, perpetuating stupidity. pedophilia is basically the societal retardation of a young human for sexual gratification of an adult. Makes total sense to be stigmatized to the point of punishment by law and worse.

Ian Campbell
Ian Campbell

There isn't any sane argument in favor of psychopathy so I think you're screwed there friend.

Lucas Collins
Lucas Collins

fake claims

Asher Flores
Asher Flores

relates one single exception
this proves it happened all the time, lol rekt
If you want to prove such marriages were the norm, you need to provide statistics showing such. Define your % threshold of marriages you would consider making child/adult marriages "normal" than show me how that compares to the marriage records you've researched, faggot.

William Peterson
William Peterson

Wouldn't it make far more sense to end the stigma for something that's actually fairly prevalent in Humanity in general? If the stigma is the major cause of problems, the only sane response is to try to stop it. Its just cowardice otherwise. Your argument is just bad in general and only applies to people who accept things how they are.

Luke Perez
Luke Perez

Gross

Xavier Richardson
Xavier Richardson

No, YOU need to show statistics proving that it WASN'T common. Because we have numerous LEGAL DOCUMENTS which say it was legal and numerous documented cases of men in their twenties marrying 13 year olds. Given your complete lack of any evidence, the burden of proof rest with you

Jackson Bennett
Jackson Bennett

You'd think they'd have other examples.

Even in Jane Austen books they were getting married at 18 and 19. Marriage at 13 and younger was not common.

Ah, so you're into little boys. Got it.

Jason Watson
Jason Watson

people will take kids heads and put it on porn.
you're literly retarded

Matthew Torres
Matthew Torres

No. It is similar in nature to the stigma put towards parents that beat their children as punitive education.

Xavier Gutierrez
Xavier Gutierrez

If it were simply a stigma children would not dissociate during abuse. They have no frame of reference for how to split their psyche and yet it is a common outcome of childhood sexual abuse. People dont automatically repress memories of 'natural' activities. Children have a natural sense of a persons energy and they know instinctively they are being preyed upon. If it was natural you wouldn't need to groom children into participating and keeping it a secret.

Aaron Lewis
Aaron Lewis

Child abuse is linked to adult promiscuity and increased degeneracy in general. I pass.

Nathaniel Scott
Nathaniel Scott

You're really going to try to make an argument based on literature? I read a lot of books, that isn't going to fly. Just read the thread. Poe was married to a 13 year old. Just stating the same thing over and over again "Marriage at 13 and younger was not common" isn't a very good argument, probably because I never said it was. It wasn't rare, it wasn't uncommon, it wasn't the norm, but it happened fairly often and in many, many documented cases, there wasn't much fuss.

Ah, so you're into little boys. Got it.
So?

Leo Richardson
Leo Richardson

Look at all these wizards and beta white knight orbiters shilling for the roasties and the female primacy. Age of consent was one of the feminists' first victories, along with women's suffrage. They pushed for both concurrently at the earliest days of feminism, the first of the first issues. They want you to settle for used goods with no treads left on the tire, women who only settle at the point in life at which their sexual market value is depreciating, as we can see with the later and later ages women choose to have kids and be "tied down" following the sexual revolution and the invention of the pill.

If fathers had the option of marrying their daughters off to suitors in their teens, as was normal for centuries and centuries, it would be roastie hell, their worst nightmare. If men increase the size of the pool, and more importantly, the quality, a younger women who haven't been defiled and screwed up and taken miles of cock, the sexual market value of your typical degenerate idiot white woman ("jusst trying to find mysself") would plummet like a stone.

Once you realize as a man that in the modern world, gender dynamics, the legal system, everything is rigged against you by liberalism and Boomer weakness and decadence, the world starts making more sense.

Charles Green
Charles Green

How about some evidence? Rind et al. + Ulrich et al. shows the vast majority of cases don't cause much harm, if any. I can also show you many studies showing the likelihood of harm is directly linked to stigma.

Joshua Williams
Joshua Williams

It wasn't rare, it wasn't uncommon, it wasn't the norm
You know it kind of has to be one of these, right?
So?
So you're a piece of shit.

Daniel Wood
Daniel Wood

Even in Jane Austen books they were getting married at 18 and 19.
You mean, in books written by a 30 year old upper class feminist who hated the institution of marriage and who died at the age of 41 having never married? 1) The upper classes have always been relatively infertile relative to common people, marrying later and having fewer children 2) Its a fictional novel 3) She's a very biased source because she hated marriage and 4) It probably stemmed from her own insecurities, being advanced in age herself

Liam Gomez
Liam Gomez

correction: If fathers had the option of marrying their daughters off to suitors in their teens, as was normal *throughout the history of all human civilization

Levi Ward
Levi Ward

I just don't think one should hold off a treatment until a cure can be found, that seems to be our disagreement. Of course this involves parents heavily but I think that this earlier responsibility will bring on an increasing sense of responsibility in these young people. Necessity is the mother of invention applies on some way. You can try to foster a sense of responsibility first, without actually giving them that responsibility, but I predict failure. I, of course, do believe in safeguards though. Provisions for parental consent for marriage and making sure that premarital sex is nit allowed, for instance. It would be imperfect without a more holistic change, but I think it would still be beneficial overall. I could be wrong, of course.

Lincoln Clark
Lincoln Clark

still normal in Mexico

lol what

John Price
John Price

This is an economic survival thing. America is now the richest country in the world

Andrew Peterson
Andrew Peterson

psychopathy
What if the pedo just wants to start a family and have kids? Or will you still argue it’s not natural

Colton Hill
Colton Hill

You know it kind of has to be one of these, right?
It was fairly common, since you enjoy making people repeat themselves.
Here is the beginning of when I replied to you:
"perfectly normal" is an exaggeration, but so is your nonsense.
This is completely true, and documented. Offer a single shred of evidence that it isn't the case. There are tons of documented cases of people marrying adolescents and there not being much fuss at all.
So you're a piece of shit.
Based on what? I can equally say you're a piece of shit for no reason.

You have no augmentative abilities.

Aiden Hughes
Aiden Hughes

stigma causes problems
No important problems. Not a high priority.

Luis Roberts
Luis Roberts

Prove something I haven't defined isn't true.
Legal = normal

1 - What percentage of marriages would have to be child/adult marriages for you to consider it "normal"?
2 - What would the minimum difference in age have to be?
3 - What would the minimum age of the adult have to be?
4 - At what age would you no longer consider someone to be a child for the purposes of defining them as being a child-spouse?
5 - On what statistics are you basing your argument?

You are not defining the position you are arguing and then are claiming victory when I can't offer anything to disprove your secret evidence.

Jayden Lopez
Jayden Lopez

dafuq, this shit has gone wrong in so many ways. Sexualizing pre teens? Not letting a kid have his carefree, more or less innocent childhood? F U all degenerate selfish dickheads.

Robert Sanders
Robert Sanders

Utterly false.

Henry, J. (1997). "System intervention trauma to child sexual abuse victims following disclosure," Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 12(4), 499-512.
"Results indicated that higher trauma scores, as measured by the Trauma Symptom Checklist, were related to an increased number of interviews, even when other aspects of the abuse such as seriousness were controlled for."

Plummer, Ken (1981). "The Paedophile's Progress: A View from Below," in Brian Taylor (ed.), Perspectives on Paedophilia, p. 227. London: Batsford.
"Studies point to the experience being without trauma and frequently mutually pleasurable ... unless, and this is an important proviso, it is 'discovered' by the family or the community. When this happens, it appears that the child can become shocked by the engulfing anger and outrage of the adult."

Berliner, L., & Conte, J. R. (1995). "The effects of disclosure and intervention on sexually abused children," Child Abuse and Neglect, 19(3), 371-384.
"Having contact with a greater number of professionals following disclosure was related to greater negative impact of the abuse."

Sandfort, T. (1987). Boys on their contacts with men: A study of sexually expressed friendships, New York: Global Academic Publishers, 1987.
"Great stress is placed in the literature upon the reaction of the child's environment if it comes to light that he has had sex with an adult. According to Weeks (1976) parental response is the single most important factor in determining what effect this will all have upon the child (See also Zeegers 1968, Van der Kwast 1975). Also if the discovery results in a court case this can turn the sexual contact into a negative experience."

Stigma is a major, if not the major cause of problems. Can you offer a single shred of evidence to support your argument?

Alexander Lee
Alexander Lee

Whether or not documented cases exist is not in dispute you autist. I was the one making the case the documented cases exist of it in the modern day, but that it is not normal, which is a synonym for common. It is, in fact, UNcommon, which is slightly more common than being rare. Do you know what words mean? And what do you mean augmentative abilities? Do you mean "argumentative"?
Based on what?
Based on the fact that you are a pedo and a faggot to boot, if there were any justice in the world you would be castrated.

Dylan Bennett
Dylan Bennett

Children born to underage mothers grow up to be absolute fuckups.

Matthew Barnes
Matthew Barnes

There is a clear definition. Marriage to pubescent women of any age is normal; specifically, our laws defined that age to be around the 13th year of life for women. Legal does indicate that the practice is normal and accepted within a community of people.
1.) Any percentage. If its legal than its normal in society; we of course already know that its normal in a biological sense.
2.) Who cares? An adult woman of any age with an adult male, adult being defined as sexually receptive and fertile.
3.) Women become adults after they show breast development, pubic hair, and menstruation (evidence of ovulation ie fertility)
4.) A child is defined as someone who is prepubescent, ie sexually immature. This is actual pedophilia and it is and should remain illegal
5.) I am basing my argument on a) biological reality, because a sexually receptive ovulating female is obviously ready for sexual activity, given that her body has prepared an egg and lined the uterus for fertilization and pregnancy, and that secondary sexual characteristics like breast development and pubic hair growth are physical signals that advertise sexual maturity. b) Its based on traditional practices and historical precedent.

You have no argument. You think marrying sexually mature women is wrong because you object emotionally. You have provided zero arguments that support your position and have zero evidence to support the claim that is abnormal.

Asher Lopez
Asher Lopez

I'm pretty sure it's not normal in mexico

Levi Bailey
Levi Bailey

You're too ridiculous to understand by bringing up common cases of celebrated people getting away with marrying adolescents I make an argument that it was far more common in the past, which is not disputable unless you're simply emotional on the issue. There's really no point in responding to you further, you're incapable of making any rational response.

Based on the fact that you are a pedo and a faggot to boot, if there were any justice in the world you would be castrated.
you like something I don't therefore you should be castrated
Excellent argument you absolute mong.

Ayden White
Ayden White

Marriage? Fine. Free fucking? No.

Justin Bailey
Justin Bailey

Studies and statistics can be used to support anything user. 78% of all humans know that. Duh.

I could review those. I could maybe even study Freud to better understand sexuality, but then again HE WAS A PEDOPHILE.

Terrorists reject the stigma attached to mass murder but that doesnt make them rational.

Cameron Anderson
Cameron Anderson

go back to pleddit you fucking piece of shit nigger.

Camden Baker
Camden Baker

this, but maybe have a minimum at like 10 or 11 for girls and 20 for men

Julian Reed
Julian Reed

muh showstopping Poe example
Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin. Elvis Presley courted Priscilla at 14. No one cared and child marriage was still uncommon.
There's really no point in responding to you further
I accept your surrender, kiddie fucker.

Connor Stewart
Connor Stewart

Did they do that recently, or in the past? Can you name anyone who has done it recently? Doesn't it stand to reason then that the further you go back the more common it was? No? Then you're mentally challenged and should stop posting.

Mason Baker
Mason Baker

that doesnt make them rational.

Then make a rational argument against my arguments. Anything else is just saying "I don't agree because reasons", which is useless.

Isaac Flores
Isaac Flores

12 year olds to 21 year olds is the magic number

Sebastian Martin
Sebastian Martin

Studies and statistics can be used to support anything user.
Most retarded post I've ever seen. Show me where a study can be used to support the theory that planet earth was colonized by anally-reproducing ant-people.

Brayden Murphy
Brayden Murphy

You are not speaking English. 'Legal' and 'normal' are not synonyms. They have completely different definitions and you are using them as if they are the same word. If you do not understand the meaning of the word 'normal' then you have no business arguing whether or not something can be regarded as such.
1 - You are absolutely wrong. 'Normal' is not defined as "any percentage".
2 - If you don't consider a 13yo/18yo marriage to be substantially different from a 13yo/33yo marriage that's fine. Just needed to know if that was a factor.
3 - Good definition but unusable as an argument. Those qualities were not entered into the marriage records and can't be verified or disproved.
4 - See #3
5 - You evaded the question. What statistics are you basing this on? You said "any percentage" so fine, what percentage of marriages meet your definition? What percentage of marriages were between someone 12 or younger and someone 13 or older? Source, please.

Chase Phillips
Chase Phillips

Marriage requires that a woman be able to bear and raise children and that a man be able to provide for and protect his family. Women are physically and mentally capable of producing and raising children at the age of 13, even if liberals are in denial about that. Girls spend their entire prepubescent lives preparing to be mothers, caring for baby dolls, learning from their own mother etc. Literally all you have to do to care for a baby is breastfeed and change diapers. We have 13 year old women doing calculus in school but they're too fucking stupid to check on a baby when it cries? Fucking hell our society is doomed

Nicholas Kelly
Nicholas Kelly

Pedophilia is a thought crime. There is literally nothing wrong with having consensual sex with children. And yes, children CAN consent - that's what 'playing doctor' is all about. Don't fall for kike lies.

How do we stop pedophiles? By not making sexy kids.

Jason Anderson
Jason Anderson

shoo /tv/, shoo

Grayson Rodriguez
Grayson Rodriguez

That’s normal. You don’t feel that because you’re sexually attracted to her, but because you are her guardian and have been protecting and providing for her for 13 years. You felt jealousy because the realization sank in that your little girl is growing up, and soon a different man will be protecting and providing for her. While she still has a decade or more before she’ll be married, the dance is the first sign of what’s to come, and indicates that she’s stepped foot on that path.

TLDR, you’re a good father

Lucas Jones
Lucas Jones

I dont agree because I've personally watched childhood sexual abuse deeply affect at best and completely shatter the lives of 4 separate people I love. All different families all different predators all similar results. I've also spent the better part of the past year researching some of these institutions that are participating in the degeneracy of our children and I see the money that they use to fund the exact kinds of studies that you reference.

The FDA kills more people every year than cancer with their study approved drugs. What does that tell you? You can support any argument you want to make if you can control history and you can pay for the studies to prove it.

If you want to know about this study it from groubd level. I have lived it.

John Smith
John Smith

13 it is then, I'm down with that.

Thomas Brooks
Thomas Brooks

i suggest keeping a cynide capsule nearby in case you ever lose control.

kill yourself and you will be remembered as a troubled family man.

dont and be remembered as a sick fuck. people from your high school who hated you will do interviews where they say they always knew you were fucked up. your parents will feel a great shame that you came from them.

Asher King
Asher King

Plus. If she isn't already. She'll be taking multiple cocks in all of her orifi. Most of them black.

Alexander Gutierrez
Alexander Gutierrez

independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/200000-children-married-us-15-years-child-marriage-child-brides-new-jersey-chris-christie-a7830266.html

1000 marriages with one partner 14 or younger means less than 1000 child/adult marriages in the US between 2000 and 2015

cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/marriage_divorce_tables.htm
Over 2,000,000 marriages *per year* during the same period. Total of 32,897,573.

Less that 1,000 out of 32,897,573 is not normal by any standard

Aiden Russell
Aiden Russell

In the event you just felt jealous and not sexually attracted it could be that you realize she is starting to see other men than just her dad. Youve been the male presence in her life and you realize you will have to share that with others now. It doesnt have to be sexual unless you make it that way. I've known fathers who really struggle with their little girls growing up and seeking attention from guys. There's also a phase of accepting shes moving into womanhood and that's just difficult to swallow sometimes.

Elijah Cook
Elijah Cook

There’s nothing wrong with dating/marrying a girl in the 12-16 range, but if you use her for casual sex you deserve to die

Kevin Cruz
Kevin Cruz

I feel like that's less about pedophilia and more about don't marry a non virgin.

Nathaniel Russell
Nathaniel Russell

White people are fucking disgusting, holy shit

Jaxon Sullivan
Jaxon Sullivan

The thing is that the marriages lasted. They didn't fuck a child and then move on. That's an indication that it wasn't as sexual as we make everything these days. Pedos have an interest in children, but keep in mind that this guy stayed married to her even when she grew into a woman.

9 sounds pretty young though. At least 13 or so seems understandable.

Nolan Torres
Nolan Torres

There is no such thing as a thought crime. If there is, we need to kill all the LARPers with homicidal thoughts concerning Pedophiles.

Pedophile != child rapist.

Luis Stewart
Luis Stewart

Pedophilia is only demonized today because deminists and socialists cant stand the the thought of strong families. They want girl in schools ans to be sluts.
Theres nothing wrong with sex with little girls.
No, not at all. Fuckwad city busybodies and newsmen from Nashville made a tissy but nobody in the community cared.
Why would you think the first time they boned she immediately got pregnant?

Carter Young
Carter Young

desu I don't see the point of dating/fucking a woman over 19. By 20/21 they've all been gangbanged.

Nicholas Collins
Nicholas Collins

childhood sexual abuse

What I have been discussing is not child sex abuse and is in no way related to virtually anything that occurs today. Also, much of this harm is the result of guilt and being made to feel that whatever happened was supremely disgusting and you are tainted for life and put through years of legal proceedings and emotional turmoil. I'm not talking about anything even remotely resembling that. I'm talking about marriage, with consent and parental approval in one's teens to late teens. Stop conflating the two.

Angel Foster
Angel Foster

Maybe that's because they're just dumb sluts who got pregnant out of wedlock

Brayden Wood
Brayden Wood

Yeah where is the problem guys who could possibly see a problem with this praise kek

Michael Thompson
Michael Thompson

pretty normal I reckon. Mine is 14 and prettier than her mom ever was. It's not jealously, just the safety catch that stopped you from killing another man evaporating. There's a reason your first gf's dad spooked you to fuck. Because he'd happily slit your throat throw you in a canal & never think about it again.

Blake Powell
Blake Powell

blacks have a rate of incest rape that eclipses all other races combined. KYS

Cooper Williams
Cooper Williams

This was perfectly normal 100 years ago
No, it wasn't. It was a news item at the time precisely because it was unusual.

Blake Anderson
Blake Anderson

A happy, healthy marriage with many children is literally the definition of no issues. Once the girl is pubescent, and a suitable man has been found, there literally is no problem. Good mothers as young as 12 have come of this arrangement, and it's proven a superior performance social organization to have young girls marry 20-30 year old males.

Marriage is what keeps it working. The casual seeing of a young girl needs to be punished.

Abbos, you mean? The Aussies still have to remind them to not rape their babies, drink gasoline (huffing it was actually an improvement), and sleep in the middle of heavily transited roads. Abbos are worse than niggers.

Jaxon Hill
Jaxon Hill

70 years of marriage
legalize this shit

Henry Cruz
Henry Cruz

It is already legal to marry underage girls in the US with parental or judicial consent.

Colton Peterson
Colton Peterson

I suppose what user is saying that it should be encouraged, as well as it should be.

Carter Edwards
Carter Edwards

In burger land we are headed this way. Soon every man will know his place and report himself for every thought crime he has against non-male members of society. We will likely be taxed for each transgression in order to pay reparations to those our ancestors wronged. Fucking help....

Asher Carter
Asher Carter

I was 16 and my girlfriend was 13, lasted 6 years, though she ended up moving to California so I had to leave.

Chase Mitchell
Chase Mitchell

This is actually the opposite, honk.

Daniel Davis
Daniel Davis

Fuck your liberty obey the law

Isaiah Parker
Isaiah Parker

She was betrothed to him at 9. Probably an arranged marriage. She lived with her parents until she started menstruating?

He was 2 and she was 15 when they had their first child?

Two neighboring farmers had land that overlapped? One dude married his son to the other farmers only daughter?

Jace Lewis
Jace Lewis

Not now they can't. Savages fucked it up.

Christian Cooper
Christian Cooper

still normal in Mexico
Uhh...no it's not.

Josiah Clark
Josiah Clark

Usos y costumbres.
Así que es medio cierto y medio falso

Dylan White
Dylan White

TOASTIE ROASTIE

I bet you're dumb enough to wonder why many of us want you back in cages and whorehouses, too?

Lincoln Rivera
Lincoln Rivera

finding young idiots to be unworthy of your daughter is because you are insecure
I think I understand leftists cuckolding obsession a bit more.

Aaron Sanchez
Aaron Sanchez

This article was written BECAUSE this was a controversy, retard.
Sage

Julian Martin
Julian Martin

You just need to learn to let go. It's harsh to think that you have raised a kid all those years just to ultimately make another man happy. You need to fight that line of thought and think about your daughter's life.

If it makes her happy it's for the best.

Benjamin Ramirez
Benjamin Ramirez

If it makes her happy it's for the best.
That's retarded hedonistic thinking. Mudsharks and all their single motherhood should be enough proof of it.