Saekano

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>refreshes nyaa every 5 min

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What is this thing? The only thing I can read is black thunder

inb4 BLACK THUNDER CONDOMS (doesn't look like a pack of condoms, but it's Nihon, so anything is possible).

ICHI

what the heck is that?

Such a lovely gril

JU

HYAKKU

SEN

MANJOUME

BLACK THUNDER

poor thread should have used a better girl

Eriri is best girl.

Eriri a shit

Stop being delusional. This thread was created first and look how barren it is. Definitely best girl

Wrong. Eriri is the cutest girl and is the best character with good development, unlike, say, Utaha.

>implying quality is decided by popularity
Now who is delusional?

Most people are naturally in the watch thread, but who cares?

energy snack

>cutest girl
>best character
>good development

All wrong. Even Utaha's episodes were better than Eriri's.

so this is supposed to be an Eriri thread no wonder no one is here

You can't prove those wrong. And Utaha's arc was not only stolen by Megumi during the climax, but she didn't development and had no real special scene. Cheap fanservice and weak melodrama are all you have.

And yet you are here bumping the thread.

Utaha's scenes had more emotional impact, and unlike the novels, she developed by giving up on Tomoya for good. Eriri will return to her old antics next episode, undoing whatever development you say she had. In terms of character and development it goes Megumi > Utaha > Eriri

ok then

sage

This thread seems like a failed attempt at baiting Eririfags than it is an Eriri thread. Shitposters didn't bother with it until just now. It's more obvious considering the main thread was made 10 mins after.

Delusional. If Utaha's scene had more emotional impact then why didn't anyone talk about it? All Utahafags ever did is shit on Tomoya and act like horny underage virgins ogling Utaha's body. Utaha wanted Tomoya and still does even after the events of volume 7, so she didn't give up at all. That's zero development.

Eriri stopped being tsundere altogether and never reverted back post-volume 7, so you are wrong.

Ironic shitposting against the rules is still shitposting.

>judging emotional development by how much people talked about it
Utahafags lamented that she lost the bowl and that's all you need for a development like that, and I'm talking about the anime which is vastly different to the novels. The ranking is correct.

>rationalizing
You already lost.
>anime
Said anime that treats Eriri better than Utaha and gives Eriri original scenes to make her even better and more relevant in the long run by developing on her friendship. with Megumi. You're just delusional.

utaha > michiru > megumi > eriri

>rationalizing
Not an argument. The anime added Utaha's backstory with Eriri as well. Eriri's extra scenes were just small hints of foreshadowing, nothing major, and Utaha's arc at least wasn't reduced to 2 episodes. Only Megumi's arc will have more than the standard 3, so once again, the ranking is correct.

>using LN for anime

Yes, your rationalization to excuse the absence of discussion to indicate great emotional impact is not an argument.

That backstory is not exclusive to Utaha since the part it adapted comes from GS volume, which is for Eriri too. That doesn't help your case. All of the original scenes adds up and are made into one big picture and you can't undermine that when it's important to flesh out their relationship for the upcoming confrontation scene. Meanwhile, Utaha gets the bare minimum and her 3 episodes arc is actually 1 and a half, at most 2 considering Megumi and Eriri scenes are present throughout her arc. Megumi stole the climax and that can't be argued against.

>implying the anime isn't adapting the LN
Idiot.

>Implying the anime is adapting the LN 1 is to 1

Except I didn't excuse it, I said Utahafags lamented that she lost and talked about it in such away so they felt the emotional impact of the arc. Eriri's arc was too short and rushed to produce a similar reaction, which wouldn't have happened if they adapted it like they did with Utaha's arc. Megumi "stealing" the climax doesn't erase the development Utaha got and her treatment which is higher than Eriri's.

It's a given that anime adaptation isn't a 1:1 process, idiot. That doesn't mean that the anime so far isn't being relatively faithful and covering the essential and important scenes. If you think otherwise than make arguments by providing substantial evidence that it isn't.

Nice try. Being butthurt that she is losing is not discussing the greatness and "emotional impact" about her character.

They slimmed down volume 6's arc by focusing mostly on Eriri and devotes the second half of an episode to the comiket event. But more important it features Eriri and highlights her development and gives her special scenes to go with it thus pushing her into the spotlight, which is never taken from her. Eriri's arc achieves what it should do.

Utaha didn't actually development since she didn't give up, is objectively treated worse seeing how her focus is the minimum and has non-existent new scenes, and Utahafags hardly ever talk about her character, which includes not talking (complaining and muh body doesn't count) about it during the duration of her arc.

No one was butthurt, everyone knew Utaha wasn't going to win and they just felt sorry for her in the episode she officially lost, so they felt the sadness and resignation Utaha felt.

They rushed Eriri's arc because she's the least attractive and popular heroine for the fans and they didn't want to waste too much time with her, and they barely did the minimum required for an adaptation by shortening the most important scenes on top of the other scenes that got cut out completely, due to time constraints. They were more creative with Utaha's arc, had more time for a better build up and actual development by making Utaha give up for good, and that was what hit her fans the most.

Complaining and shitting on Tomoya and the series in a whiny way and falling back to the oh so great and perfect spinoff that they claim is better than the main series isn't butthurt? Uh huh.

Nice try. Her popularity is irrelevant to how the anime handles her arc and development, which is better than Utaha from an objective standpoint for all the aforementioned reasons that have been stated already. If popularity even matters than nothing would be relevant and matter since Megumi greatly dominates the other two, but that is clearly not the case here.

What's so bad about shitting on Tomoya? Everyone does it. The point is that Utaha's arc handled better the development and emotional impact simply with better pacing and build up. Who is talking about KM? Her popularity is relevant, if it were Megumi they would have never done that. In fact Megumi got 5 episodes to herself. Eriri getting less episodes than Megumi and Utaha is due to obvious reasons. Utaha isn't that far behind Megumi in Japan.

Only Utahafags shit on Tomoya. Other fans only sometimes critize him, but not shit on him, especialyl not on a regular and obnoxious basis the way Utahafags do that stems from not wanting to fuck Utaha as if that's all Utahafags can think about it.

>handled better the development and emotional impact simply with better pacing and build up
Pure delusion. Eriri's drama, development, and reasons dates back to volume 3/S1 of her arc. This drama and fit Utaha threw came out of nowhere after Tomoya called her writing shit. Hell Utaha's reason to like Tomoya is built on a weak foundation. Even Megumi who has the least amount of history with Tomoya has a better reason to like him from our perspective since we get to see how Megumi changes and comes to like the world that Tomoya dragged her into.

Eriri is cute. CUTE!

Eririfags and Megumifags shit on him all the time for other reasons. From a pure storytelling standpoint, Utaha's arc had better timing and pacing than Eriri's. Her emotions were conveyed better. It's not a secret to anyone that she uses her stories as a love letter to Tomoya, and this arc was her last chance to get in the train. Utaha had too her backstory with Tomoya fleshed out in S1, and her arc was a continuation of S1 as well. so no, it didn't come out of nowhere.

>entire fucking episode is boring mc bland bitch

fucking hell

No, they don't. Even in volume 12 threads Megumifags didn't shit on him, but only lambasted him at most.

One episode longer != better timing and pacing. The content matters, not technical details. The first episode in Utaha's arc didn't even focus on their relationship. The drama only started after Tomoya called her script shit. And since after the out of character drama and fit Utaha threw doesn't mesh well in actually developing her character. The whole point was Utaha letting go after, but she still tries to seduce him and tease him. And even then after volume 7 her development proves to have gone nowhere since she still hasn't given up on him.

>backstory with Tomoya fleshed out in S1
One episode worth and it's utter contrived given how out of league she is to Tomoya. The reason is simply weak and just because of that makes for a weak bond.

>disliking Tomoya is now some advanced form of Utahafag shitposting

Oh, but they do. Just read most of the complaints about S2, they are mostly about Tomoya and fans of all girs shit on him.

The first episode of the arc focused on Utaha leaving to college and asking Tomoya for advice, which led to him indirectly making her think she still had a chance with his insinuations. It focused on them. This made Utaha try to act cuter and give her all to the script as a last chance of getting through to him with it. Of course she wouldn't take it well when Tomoya called it shit. The anime so far has toned down a lot her teasing and sexual harassment of Tomoya during and after her arc. It is consistent with the development that made her give up in the anime compared to the novel.

The funny thing is that Tomoya thinks he's the one out of league for a goddess like Utaha. It being a weak bond that Utaha is obsessed with is the point of her character, so the anime did it well with forcing her to give up, and thus treating her character better.

Meh. I don't really have a dog in this fight and I still wouldn't like Tomoya as a person if I had to actually interact with someone like him. With that having been said, him being an insensitive, autistic sperg actually works surprisingly well from a story perspective, and that's why I keep reading/watching. He plays off of the girls well.

You don't have to like him, but it's fact Utahafags are the only ones who are autistic and ma enough to actually shitpost on him in a consistent manner. It relates back to the point about one of the few things Utahafags ever did in her arc instead of discussing Utaha's oh so great emotional development and scene..

>they do
I doubt you can even support this seeing how Utahafags are really the only ones that shit on him. inb4 minor and non-autistic criticisms = whiny shitting.

Of course a Utaha fanboy would rose it up and praise such a weak and filmy relationship. And to even rationalize how out of character Utaha has been acting when never showed that kind of weak and forced cute side in S1.

Sup Forums has always hated generic harem MCs, newfag. It takes someone like Takeru or Arata to earn the respect of people here.

Why don't you support your claim first? Most of Utahafags "shitting" on Tomoya is par for the course for a loser girl, no different from Eririfags saying "Eriri is too good for Tomoya" and other sour grapes reasoning.

>Utaha fanboy
Great argument. You sure proved me wrong. Also, it's not out of character when Utaha did it deliberately to try to score points with Tomoya.

Utahafags include calling him beta, faggot, homo, even worse than Ichiko meme, and so on when they complain about the main series and shill the spinoff. And too good for Tomoya posts is one of the many soreloser posts they do that ties into all of that. Eririfags hardly ever say that at all.

>deliberately
Just like being jealous and suddenly flustered is deliberate, right?

Eririfags and Megumifags do the same. Stop singling out Utahafags.

Getting jealous and flustered is something else. Megumi pointed out her trying to act cutesy, the others are just natural reactions.

>Eririfags and Megumifags do the same
Bullshit and I doubt you can even prove that.

>Getting jealous and flustered is something else.
No it is not. That's one of the most staple form of acting moe in anime. Utaha is too strong so it's painfully obvious they try to make her act cute by forcing it, which feels out of character. Being meta for the sake of meta doesn't make the execution any good.

Eririfags were probably the first ones to shit on Tomoya. Megumifags do it more often recently due to the anime's drama.

And Utaha has been getting flustered and jealous since S1, but not in the same capacity as when things got desperate for her, as her arc in S2 was her last chance. Her trying to act cutesy was out of character but because she went out of her way to act like that, and she dropped it anyway.

>first ones
>more often recently due to the anime's drama.
You are bullshitting even harder now. Whatever thread you've been are from bizarro world where Utahafags are good posters who don't shitpost Saekano, Tomoya, and and shill KM.

>flustered and jealous since S1
Post the caps.

I'm talking about S1. But it's not like Eririfags still don't do it along with Megumifags. At least Utahafags can talk good things about Tomoya in KM.

Okay.

>I'm talking about S1
Poor attempt to move the goalpost Not like it matters since I've always been talking in general. And still you can't even say that's how it is nowadays.
>Utahafags can talk good things about Tomoya in KM.
One of the few things done out of desperation to force KM into being relevant.

One instance where she broke character for a second and slapped herself back into her actual character. Barely comparable.

>in general
Which includes S1. I told you already most of the complaints about S2 are about Tomoya and fans of all girls do it.

It's comparable. Utaha has always acted flustered and jealous when it comes down to it.

Saying so won't make it true. Tomoya had very little discussion about his character in S1. People were too focused in waifu wars to care about him. But for about a year now, it's only Utahafags that care and they shitpost without a second though. Megumifags hardly shitpost, even Eririfags barely do it nowadays. Check 10 random threads in the last several weeks to prove yourself wrong.

>comparable
It's not, especially if you are going to use that scene too, which is not Utaha acting moe-moe in any ways. She was just sperging and getting too worked up in creator mode and lost in her work.

Tomoya was panned like any other generic harem MC is. It was and still is the only thing fans of every girl can agree with. Utahafags may be the most noticeable in recent weeks due to him being the most dense towards Utaha and rejecting her in the anime, but everyone does it.

>It's not
If the scene has Utaha being flustered or jealous, it is.

We aren't tailing ab out generic criticisms like average harem MC. Even when compared to others, he has a lot less complains than others who are worse than him, or even more talked about. You can't deny the fact Utaha are the only one who shits on him in an aggressive and soreloser kind of way. Why even try? Megumifags and Eririfags didn't do it for their respective dramas/arcs, so don't make up excuses.

Being upset in a Utaha-like way is not out of character. We are talking about moe kind of weak and fluster.

Where are those shitposts and how are they different from what other fans say? Megumifags and Eririfags call him beta, homo, faggot, etc. Megumifags did it in volume 12 for obvious reasons.

I don't know about you, but Utaha was very moe in those scenes.

Where? Show posts that are associated with them and see how comparable they are to Utahafags who hate the main story in general and complain and shit on it.

For you. Still doesn't mean the way she act at times for be moe-moe isn't OOC. It's obviously forced in order to make her more heroine material.

cutest

Read volume 12 threads. They also criticize Maruto and think the story went downhill.

The point is that her trying to act cute IS out of character as pointed out by Megumi, but it was something Utaha wanted to do to try to appeal to Tomoya in a different way, and it has nothing to do with her acting flustered or jealous which is something she can do naturally.

Which Takeru or Arata?

ugliest

No. Eriri is the cutest girl. Bar none.

Izumi, Utaha, the illustrator girl from KM and Megumi are cuter

All wrong.

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I already covered volume 12 threads. Mild and non-baiting criticism isn't the same thing as what Utahafags do. How can you even defend Utahafags when they are the type that openly call Saekano shit just because Utaha lost and becomes irrelevant? That's not even mentioning picking fights with Eririfags and Megumifags too at times.

Except it's not just teasing and being meta. The cuteness is tacked on in order to make her more appealing as a heroine. If you're fine with that then I guess you don't like Utaha's true personality much.

Hnnnnnng

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