Jordan Peterson can't answer a question about the Holodomar

A Jewish man recognizes asks JBP about Jewish influence. He is struck silent and the audience laughs. Very uncomfortable footage. Apparently removed from youtube also.

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kek, this is golden! thank you user. more ppl need to see this. also go and read adornos letters to his parents after WW2, this man HATED german people, ALL of them.

good stuff. bump

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Peterson wants to remain an individualist.
The nature of the question sets up for collectivism.
Plus Jews are an official oppressed group.
This is like kryptonite for boomers.
It's easy to see why Peterson dodged the question.
Apart from stuff like this he's good at getting young men to stop being so soyish.
I still like Peterson even with the stumbles.

Into this book ? Looking forward on the internet to find it : amazon.com/Letters-his-Parents-Theodor-Adorno/dp/0745635423

By this time Stalin took power from Jewish Communists, eliminated the Jew Trotsky from power. So the blame falls on him.

>Many Bolsheviks, including in Komsomol, OGPU, and the Red Army, were eager to be rid of the NEP and its market-oriented approach, desiring a push towards socialism.[296] There were concerns about a growing sector of society—the 'kulaks' and the Nepmen—who had profited from the policy and become wealthier than other citizens.[294] There had also been a shortfall of grain supplies; 1927 produced only 70% of grain produced in 1926.[297] At this point, Stalin turned against the NEP, putting him on a course to the "left" even of Trotsky or Zinoviev.[298]

>In early 1928 Stalin travelled to Novosibirsk, there claiming that kulaks were hoarding their grain. He ordered that the kulaks be arrested and their grain confiscated, with Stalin bringing much of the area's grain back to Moscow with him in February.[299] At his command, grain procurement squads surfaced across Western Siberia and the Urals, with violence breaking out between these squads and the peasantry.[300] Stalin announced that both kulaks and the "middle peasants" must be coerced into releasing their harvest.[301] Bukharin and several other members of the Central Committee were angry that they had not been consulted about this measure, which they deemed rash.[302] In January 1930, the Politburo approved a measure to liquidate the existence of the kulaks as a class; they were rounded up and exiled either elsewhere in their own regions, to other parts of the country, or to concentration camps.[303] Large numbers died during the journey.[304] By July 1930, over 320,000 households had been affected by the de-kulakisation policy.[303]

>Sup Forums now supports kikes and kike tricks to take down white thought leaders

Too funny. The questioner said he is jewish.

Bump

so it is the jews. Sup Forums is right.

I'm skeptical about Sup Forumss claims about jews, but let's assume Sup Forums is right, and that he's not red pilled on the JQ yet... that's unfortunate, but a stupid reason to disavow him, he still has tremendous value to offer western society

muh individualism. the golden cow of the redpilled soyboys.
>hurrr durr i am fabulous, i am an individual snowflake. i dont need no collectivism
stop being a pussy and clean your room, join the collective of people with clean rooms.

You fucking autists hate winning. We got a guy out there speaking truth and empowering white men and you just have to destroy him. You are worse than the niggers.

Came watch it atm, but I know a thing or three about the holodomor. Care to post the question verbatim?

I'm sure he's aware. He can't say anything about the Jewish people negatively, cause then he'd lose everything and possibly go to jail.

Just the way it is.

OP is probably a CNN mediamatters intern troll factory worker out to destroy Peterson. Pretty obvious for anyone with half a brain.

>Man up and support this based jewish questioner against the evil white man

"In the book (200 Year Together) Solzhenitsyn documents the overrepresentation of Jewish individuals in the NKVD and the Bolshevik leadership. He claims that the ethnic hatred these individuals had for Christians played a role in the Holodomor. Jewish individuals had faced persecution in Ukraine prior to the Bolshevik rise to power. These individuals exacted their revenge on the Christian Ukrainian population. The result was the death of 4 million Christians.

The line of good and evil cuts through the heart of every human. One cannot simply say a given ethnic group is evil. Every individual must struggle with the good and the evil in their own heart. That being said, it is important to understand what motivates groups to commit atrocities against other groups because the previous century has been filled with groups killing other groups.

Like the Bolsheviks, Jewish individuals are overrepresented in the ownership and senior staffing of the US news media. The news media also is inexplicably hostile towards Russia. If the current war mongering against Russian Christians is in any motivated by the same ethnic hatred that motivated the Holodomor we must face that truth honestly.

If Jewish individuals hated Christian Ukrainians enough to starve millions of them to death could the same thing happen today?

Could Jewish individuals use their positions of power to seek out revenge against places like Europe and Russia that have a history of expelling Jews?"

Bad move to drop that on him while he was on stage desu, what did the guy really expect?

>why yes here have a quote off the top of my head that will murder my chances of being able to speak anywhere else from now on

the purpose of collectivisation was the extraction of profits, so that they can be used for importation of industrial equipment and military equipment licensing, buildup of heavy industry, militarisation. All with the larger goal of war readiness.
Stalin just wanted to expand his own rule, with communism as the vehicle and security issues as rationalization for military aggression.

Then why didn't he respond with this truth clearly it is out of reach for us but not for Peterson.

There's no reason to lambast JP over this.

You know exactly why he did this. They will absolutely ruin his life.

Free speech advocate afraid of getting in trouble. Pathetic.

i think you dont get it user, he gets it, he knows about the eternal jew, but if he names the jew, he gets deplatformed. and its not about jews as only evil in the world, they are just a very powerful evil besides many others. he is /ourguy/, the best we can get at this moment given his popularity and normie acceptance

>Individualism makes you a special snowflake
>Special snowflakes flock together in minorties to play muh minority card
>Evolves into collectism coining every criticism to your group
Oh vey, we've come half circle already.

that would never redpill anybody

I knew someone was going to come out with that or 'but muh tell the truth'. He's not Jim Carrey in Liar Liar, he hasn't committed to blurting out any old shit at any moment with no filters at all

>YES HELLO YOU IN THE THIRD ROW NICE TITS I HAVE PILES LAST WEEK I RAN A RED LIGHT AND KILLED SOMEONE'S CAT NOW SLAY THE DRAGON BUCKO

pathetic loaded "question" from Sup Forums tier autist

>>YES HELLO YOU IN THE THIRD ROW NICE TITS I HAVE PILES LAST WEEK I RAN A RED LIGHT AND KILLED SOMEONE'S CAT NOW SLAY THE DRAGON BUCKO

So you're saying he's a coward?

I doubt it, he is mostly cluless on race or at least don't want to really adress the issue, his mythological knowledge is rather underwhelming compared to people like C.G. Jung this is extremly evident. He is constantly talking about collectives and their danger, but yet is unable to adress the most powerful and agressive collective. At best he isn't half as smart as his fans make him out to be or he is a hypocrite and coward. At worst he is just an agenda driven fake opposition agent, who knows damn well he is actively misleading people to make it harder for them to get the facts and build their strategys based on them.

The fact is, he wimped out. There were half a dozen ways to handle that situation without sperging out about gassing Jews, but he straight up refused to answer at all.
Sorry but I lost respect for him over this weak beta move.

So you're saying we should kill cats under red lights?

This is the real reason we're seeing these shill threads

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Yeah m8. It was. My grandmother's family were all murdered in the Holodomir. A genocide by jews to whites. Covered up and never talked about. More people than the holocuast was killed.

>JP
>white leader

LMAO

Call him that and watch him cry out in his kermit tier fucking voice about how he is totally opposed to white nationalist racists and how bad they are

Is it really controversial to say an undeniable total truth? Hell I've wrote a research paper on Jewish involvement in Weimar Berlin and Bolshevik leadership in University. I was looked at funny but they can't refute what I wrote.

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i came across this. havent read the book yet, i dont know if this is in the book and i dont have an english translation of the article. adorno wrote to his parents after WW2, that he hopes all the "Hansjürgens and Utes" die or become sex-slaves for jews and that germany gets destroyed before they capitulate.

Repdilling has to be done in small steps

Listen, cunt. I loved his series on archetypes and got giddy when he publicly destroyed that feminist, but don't act shocked when people smell something fishy when he acts like a dodgy cunt.

Kermit the frog was voiced by a white man.

If that's true and he was really that smart he would ignore the alt right and not bitch about them. He could also drop a million of redpills without actualy nameing them. Talk about individuals etc. and let people conect the dots.

muh holodor
no one cares about sudetenland genocide by the slav(e)s

many jews hate the zionist kikes. we can use every help we can get asshole.

>wanting to tread carefully on controversial issues
>this is dodgy behavior

No, this called not being a retard.

My grandfather heard the news of what occurred in the Ukraine and the second Hungary had joined the war he dropped everything he was doing and went straight to enlist.

The thing that makes Peterson great is that he pushes people to actually look for the truth. His hate for communism is also great.

>calling out white nationalists
>but stepping gingerly around Jews
Fuck off, hypocrite.
No one asked him to attack us.
He sees us as evil. You get that, don't you?

>Literally based jews meme
You're literally a commie.

WHERE DID ALL THESE ANTI-PETERSON THREADS COME FROM

>A Jewish man
Not likely, also a stupid move to corner him and put him on the spot like that, accomplishing nothing other than attempting to trip him up. Very ungracious.

The two issues you're comparing aren't the same. It's a false analogy.

And no, he doesn't think we're evil.

“I can’t do it”
Can’t or won’t?

Top notch for the question by the way. The nervous laughter seeping through Peterson’s audience is clear as day, they’re scared.

Indeed, that doesn't change the way JP and the like throw tantrums of epic proportion when associated with white nationalism or even the idea of the struggle white identity faces today

Who gives a fuck? I don't need his approval. I'm quite happy for him to keep doing what he's doing and thinking I'm an ebul nazi while he's at it. Everything doesn't have to be absolute LE BAESED or LE DROPPED

This.
Maybe be happy with a victory. His dodging the JQ is less important than the value he brings. Kindly fuck off and learn how to play the long game or we'll be stuck in this pit forever. Nobody will want to deal with us because we take them down if they aren't 100%...

I think shills might be behind this. Nobody is this autistic.

exactly

can't name the jew just yet

If he refuses to back white identity but backs Jewish and minority identity soon, then, you do understand that everything that he does and says is futile yeah?
We are facing a demographic tsunami.
This is not a debate.
We are a dying race on the brink.
You may laugh at me now but you WILL cry at my words in 20 years.
Be more humble in your assessment at reality and know that it is the ultimate authority.
Peterson knows and we know he knows.

That's a disingenuous question. He's trying to use the holodomor as short of a Trojan horse to insert his actual question about Jews in the mass media, and geo politics. Who honestly thinks CNN is going to carry out mass starvation in the 21st century?

That said, Bolshevik jewry absolute was motivated by ethnic hatred. But self hatred and class hatred, too. Most Russian Jews did turn to the Bolsheviks, but mainly because the Whites were explicitly anti Semitic, while the Bolsheviks were only incidentally so. Also, most of the Russian people experienced a period of genuine optimism after the end of the civil wars. Remember, Marxism had never been tried yet, and they were heavily propagandized to believe the lofty goals of communism were at hand.

But if you want to really understand the viciousness of the Bolshevik Jews, just look at what they did to the other Jews. It's not a genocide if you're doing it to you're own race. They had an official policy to be ten times as hard up their own kind so as to give an example to the other ethnic groups that they had to clean their own houses of those who were politically unreliable.

He doesn't believe in the same solution to white problems that you do.

That doesn't change the fact that he is a white leader.

That's true.
And I generally ignore the hater threads for that very reason.
But this clip pissed me off with how cowardly he's acting, and I get called a fucking shill for expressing that opinion by people too busy sucking his cock to see how he talks down to them.
Pathetic.

This 'movement' isn't interested in winning, people are only here for the chaos itself and for its own sake.

I'm not certain I agree with you about him not being wise to the jq but he should not be throwing out weak criticisms of the alt right. He needs good arguments or he should be silent. That's the thing though, there aren't many good arguments to be had because what the alt right believes is based on evidence.

I don't usually *inhale* but..
.. I can't do it ..

The Aussie gets it.

lmao. Everybody is 'intellectually curious' just up until you mention Jews. then suddenly not so much

>learn how to play the long game or we'll be stuck in this pit forever.
Don't kid yourself, the only thing that's gonna get people out there and making a chance is hungry stomachs.

Do you see how abysmal and pathetic you look?

Fuck off retards, suicidal individualism has been the root of the biggest problems now facing white man in this world. What exactly has he brought? Muh kill the dragon and clean up your room?

These double-faced money grabbers that will not think for a second before ostracizing their own people in exchange for materialistic values are a plague.

It's exactly the same. He's a pussy

Your Grandfather was a good man. My hate for commies is bottomless.

Fair enough. It is very frustrating but I think we'll be waiting a long time yet til anyone at his level of exposure faces this head-on.

>speak the truth, that's how you stop oppression. Always speak the truth.
so, how about them jews?
>uhmmm ehh, I think we're done here

100% this, proud of ya, ya cunt.

Stalin was close to really holohoaxing the Jews in 53' or sending them all to Siberia.

I mean its just a basic trap people that are angry at him for it are low iq morons imo
Hurr durr if he says he is immidetly banned from any future tv which is what the left wants.
Again its not a accident this is after he redpilled millions on tv.

No, why don't you tell me?

Except he isn't, he doesn't give a fuck about any problems beside the paycheck and fame, as little as it may be. He's the leader of a cult of skeptic individuals that that, ironically, have formed a toxic collective

Toppling low-hanging fruit such as "muh islam is bad and feminist too!" while overlooking much bigger problems.

Fought all the way to end of the war when they captured his tank platoon and then they threw him in a gulag. He lived.

What is this, one of those based Bobby Fisher type jews?

JP didn't become famous by eating bait like this, he is not an idiot. Even if Jews were overrepresented in the NKVD, what does it add to the discussion if he points this out?

This would be utterly counterproductive and he knows, it would only give ammunition to his critics to paint him as an anti-semite. Then the mutilated-dick cocksucking boomers would have their socks all wet about JP.

No it isn't. You're a retard.
I'll give you one obvious difference to shut you up:
Not all jews are zionists. Not all of them are collectivists. They are, on average, more collective than whites.... but being born to a jewish mother doesn't necessitate any collectivism.

>but a stupid reason to disavow him, he still has tremendous value to offer western society

This cannot be understated. Don't fall for divide and conquer bullshit. Commies push d&c about Peterson because he destroys them and leaves them with no recourse. Peterson dismantles Jewish tools and that would still be true if he was an extreme philosemite.

anyone have an audio version? Maybe something generated through a text to speech program.

>Just the way it is.
Yep.
Grow up sunny boy. You are not free, you are under the illusion that you are.

Who knew inventing banking would be so fruitful ? I guess god knew. And so is our destiny to own all the goyim, who are nothing more than screeching beasts.
To be a beacon of light to the goyim, as we say.
How does it feel being a goy ? I have to wonder sometimes what goes through the brain of the beast. Thank god im not one.

op has no gag reflex.

You don't give a fuck about anything but destroying JP.

Your hackneyed portrayal of individualist/collectivist dichotomy tells as much.

...

Well the main ones is you being happy for him collecting shekels, at the same time saying whites that care for their existence are wrong and bad.

Tell me, what makes you so excited about that?

He goes into detail in his lectures about telling the truth isn't the same as stating everything that is true. Some truths are better left unspoken until the time is right or perhaps never at all. Anyone who thinks that he should have gone along with the questioning at this point in his career and with the momentum he has now should seriously consider themselves to be completely stupid or autistic for lack of better words.

I think, having studied communism in depth, he knows full well about the JQ. Whether he recognizes it as an intrinsic part of the Jew or just some potential pathological side of Jews or anyone is up for debate. The man is quite aware of the JQ and what it actually means. He talks about it in his lectures but uses the "muh higher on average IQ" as a defense.
Which might be true but it still does not explain the overrepresentation.
Give the guy a break and be happy with what we have thus far. This guy brings nihilistic white men back from the brink of self-destruction.

Again, for the last fucking time, there are multiple ways to answer that question without sperging out into full 1488 gas the Jews.
Completely avoiding it is dishonest.
Completely avoiding it while still finding the time to criticise white nationalists for *their* collectivism is shady af.
I will happily take the value he provided to the fight against SJW's, but that fight is over and if he won't join us for the fight against the real enemy then he means nothing to me.

Peterson is just Milo 2.0. Just some dipshit for edgy soycunts looking for a daddy substitute to swarm and throw their money at.

This guy has literally dozens of online lectures passionately decrying facism, Nazis and Hitler and some of you dipshits still think he is your ally?

>if he hates commies then that meams he loves Nazis

Fucking unbelievable, it's all THERE in plain sight on his youtube channel, a literal click away. Start by redpilling yourself on that one first. GEEZE!

No shit, you think anybody is saying that being Jewish is a Platonic essence? You fucking coward, you know exactly what we're saying.

And the comparison, just to expose it to your intellectual dishonesty, is between Jews who openly claim to be pro-Jewish(ie. virtually every single one of them) and whites who openly claim to be pro-white(who are demonized to the point of literal imprisonment)

>Who honestly thinks CNN is going to carry out mass starvation in the 21st century?

You have way too much faith in humanity, soiboi.
Nothing has changed.
Once the left have permanent political power through demographic change they will become unaccountable.
Once they become unaccountable they will fulfill the logical end to their ideology. The ultimate aim of postmodern left is intersectionality and that entails the eradication of all bad whites.
They have already kulakified the 'bad white' in the literature.
All they need to do is act it out.
It is inevitable. That is, unless, us 'bad whites' fight back.
And we will.

>Purity spiral shills.

>Not talking about minimal and maximal goals.

Peterson is a great guy out to help people. Of course you communists would want to destroy him.

The face when all our atrocities gets blamed on kikes.

Before the existence of Israel, most Jews saw Socialism as the best system for Jews to exist in. (anti-Semitism was punished by death in Soviet Russia, that sounds like good protection, and there was no better systemic option in the world).
After the creation of Israel their hearts and loyalty went there, and Stalin stopped trusting them.
Similar thing happened in Poland in 1968: Jews publicly showed happiness about Israel winning a war, so our leaders said to them: you are loyal to Israel, you need to go there.

>Completely avoiding it is dishonest.
No it isn't. You're assuming he knows the answer and is not saying it. But, in that case, you're assuming that he's dishonest in the first place.
There's nothing dishonest about not saying an answer if you don't know what the answer is.

You obviously are a brainless follower, good luck watching your own people die out, swallowed and destroyed by the much stronger collectives all around the world.

Individualism is a plague, a suicidal tendency that has stripped whites of their preservation instinct. There's no big brain theory about it, there hasn't been one example and never will be, where and individual can beat the collective. Sure, if you're a mindless drone then go for it, be sure to donate to his patreon while he openly counter signals any quest for white identity by people.

His lectures are still valuable to "us". Get the fuck out of here you shilly cunt.

das rite bruv.
Don't worry: we are not alone. There is a rising here in Aus.