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Demi-human girl.

>RPG mechanics

>fantasy setting

>when you realize what happened in 1492 was a real life isekai

Slave harem.

>RPG mechanics
>when the setting isn't implied to be a video game world
????????

>Snowflake MC

Unironically liking the first episode of SAO.

What about isekai where MC is a literal snowflake?

>MC is reincarnated as a snowflake
>he has to kill and absorb other snowflakes to become Mr. King Snowman
I would watch that.

>lv system, tons of skills, power fantasy, wish fulfillment

How hard it can be to create a unique magical system?

I mean, using rpg mechanics would not be that bad if the author changed skills names and tried to hide away much of the rpg system, you could still have power level wanking with a ranking system used to measure people, without everything becoming a literal copy and paste of D&D.

It becomes hard to keep yourself immersed in the world when people are saying shit like "skills levels" and "dungeon boss".

I read two western novels with magic systems almost straight out of a rpg, but the author went to great lengths to make that system a part of the world with its own style and rules, some authors of isekai novels dont even try that much.

OOT question, how often does Goblin Slayer manga gets a new chapter, picked it up a few days ago

The focus of most isekai stories isn't the magic. Magic is mostly used as a tool to aid in wish fulfillment or for its general use in a fantasy setting.

around the 25th day of every month

Not often enough. Love that shit.

>How hard it can be to create a unique magical system?
Pretty damn hard, actually. That's why most authors just rip off and use RPG/MMO mechanics.

Some user here mentioned that non rpg fantasy is looked down upon in Japan, so they don't use it.

>tfw you'll never become the Vlad Tepes of a fantasy world
Why even live?

I think it is more likely that it is a fad, popularized by SAO. And since it combines easily with isekai, we now have the current situation.

Damn it

>How hard it can be to create a unique magical system?
That's a pretty complicated question. World building can be as easy or as hard as you want it to be, I suppose. You copy/paste spells straight out of the Player's Handbook if you want to and your audience will pick up on it right away, or you can create a complex system of magic that might be offputting to potential readers, or you could create a magic system that is easy enough to understand at first but has a good bit a depth to it if you're willing to invest the time in it - time that may be wasted if your audience doesn't appreciate it.

I think a lot of Isekai authors are going for a a wide audience so they can sell lots of books, rather than to create a masterful and unique story. It isn't that they couldn't create a unique magic system, it's that they don't have to. For whatever reason, people are willing to buy these books so they keep getting made. I believe that soon enough the novelty of RPG mechanics is going to wear thin and authors will be required to innovate if they want to set themselves apart from others. At least I hope so, anyway.

I would never read it but I would keep up with its threads just to read reactions.

Good.

It starts out great. It all goes downhill when the AI gets introduced.

>cute girl gets isekai'd into magical music world and becomes the catgirl

Real world Cyan isn't cute.

That's only because she becomes even cuter as a catgirl. It makes her plain form look that much more plain. But it's still cute.

Was Aura Battler Dunbine the first isekai?

chinese isekai
>bullied MC
>crippled MC
>arrogant young master
>lost face
I assure you xianxia genre is so bad it's a good pleasure to read.

The first 6-8 episodes are great. Goes to shit immediately after that murder mystery.

No way, the first isekai is A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court

>ends up in a different world due to a tragic accident
>world is medieval with some magic
>church is the bad guys
>uses his knowledge of modern day to introduce new technologies
>never bothers trying to return to the real world

>you are courting death!

What I really hate though is how materialistic some chinese webnovels are. Does it really matter that the MC is driving a BWM M3 or a Range Rover? Or that he is wearing some million dollar shirt handmade in Italy?

Don't even get me started on chink isekai "romance", they are even more hamfisted than japanese beta MCs. I didn't think it was possible, but it is.

Translations soon, now that it got picked up by somebody that actually gives a shit about the series.

> Otome game villainess adaptation into manga.
> Pic related.

I need to rewatch it.

I don't know if that's due to the genre itself (prevalence of terms like meridians, Dao and Fortuitous Occurences, not unlike tsundere and m-masaka in anime/manga) or fan translators being bad.
RTW is nice.

>Isekai
>MC was gifted with a trump card
>uses it once in a so obvious fashion that it is obvious on how to activate it
>never learns how to until a few episodes before the finale

Three generations in a row growing up knowing nothing but famine, poverty, and distrust will do that to you. Thirty million Chinese died in a famine created almost entirely by Mao's autism, and pointing out that fact would get you killed as your wife, husband, children, and parents all could sell you out for saying the wrong thing.

That kind of thing has effects on a culture. Many people in China who lived through those years had to learn to be selfish and obsessed with amassing and hoarding wealth and resources because it was the only way to survive those decades. Three generations living through the same thing means nobody is left to teach good morals.
In a way, the "good enough" attitude the Chinese have that creates a less than rigorous attitude towards quality control and standards could be said to be borne out of those years. When you can't afford to buy good quality things or afford proper fixes for broken things, you tend to get into the habit of McGuyvering up semi-working acceptable chabuduo solutions.

Horrible translations aside, it was so bad that it wasn't even good.

I found it fun. Not particularly great but just something enjoyable to read. Or I just like Suimei too much.

>Isekai
>MC thrown into world that is obviously just old japan
>Finds a girl naked or some shit
>KIIIIAAAAAA
>they end up fighting an enemy and winning the MC being able to land the final blow
>after the battle the girl hits the guy instead of saying thanks
>they team up anyways
>they form a party to take on the bad dude
>half of the team is spank bait
>MC has better knowledge than anyone on the team, even some better powers
>MC is never thanked for any of the deeds only told just told to fuck off perv

>10 fucking chapters so far about Gyurie's shitty backstory with Sariel that we basically already knew about from the hundreds of chapters that already exist
Just end Kumo already. Anything but this shit.

>>after the battle the girl hits the guy instead of saying thanks

Are there any isekai where the protagonist immediately tells them to cut that shit out and means it?

Plot twist: MC actually a perv.

>13 episode isekai
>everyone just accepts the MC because he is the MC
>check the source material
>it's basically the same thing minus filler lines that don't relate to anything or any character reasoning

Drifters maybe?

i haven't read kumo in a while, who the FUCK is sariel?

Does something like "Devil is a part timer" count as reverse Isekai? Because I like those better.

The retarded goddess.

>MC wakes up in an obvious not his time line or any familiarity to where he is from
>Instantly just goes along with it all and decides to fight "the big bad guy who is an ancient evil" without trying to find out anything else

thanks,wow what a waste of chapters. I guess nip writer's block strikes again...

You mean the LN version or the WN version?

Just read or watch jipang its relly good but its not really isekai

Magic now is really generic in ln and manga and other medium

>now

LN. Translator's taking care of Volume 1 (finished) and 2 first because nobody cared to translate them despite there being a few differences between the LN and WN.

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Maidragon counts too.

They cant because magic is really generic now

>tfw I wrote a novel
>tfw realized it was isekai
>tfw realized it would probably be categorized as suffering porn
What do I do Sup Forums?

holy shit someone picked this back up?

Nothing

isekai isn't bad user, it's just that the amount of crap that anime pushes out with that plot is complete and undifferentiated garbage. The plots are basically all the same like in with some minor tweaks to make things "unique".

There are still good ones, Drifters, Konosuba, Overlord, and a few others were actually fairly fun to watch and enjoy

Add more suffering and publish it

>the magic system is practically programming code considering how you have runes and magic signs in many different high-level languages being used to classify and control the mana, with directly controlling mana being identical to coding in assembly that's only possible by high-level wizards

When described by someone else on Sup Forums once before they told me the plot of my novel was:
>Drifters but with normal people + dune logic spice bullshit

It was pretty recent but yeah. They plan on translating volume 2 and then jumping to where the other translations left off, which could be either translating the last few chapters of volume 3 or redoing all of it from scratch and then continuing on until they catch up to 7.

Take out the runes and you have the magic system from A hero's war

>MC gets isekai'd
>the parallel world is exactly the same except best girls win in everything.

What isekai without loli, otaku and harem

There is a way. Here are some rules:
> Don't make the system contrived, a huge fireball that can be made is enough/ earthquake, etc. Simple elements taken to a powerful form is fine.
> Anyone can use magic but the way to learn alot of them is restricted or so on.
> If there's imbalance of magical power or etc. Attempt to excuse it that people may never harness their power or were born with little to no power as the world grants it random.
> if there's another system of magic or something that is not, make it a system anyone can enter as long as they are invested in it.

Read reincarnator is Korean. All 7 billion people god isekaided.

Murder Mystery subplot was episode 5 and 6. Episode 4 is the Silica episode (loli with dragon pet).
The only good episodes were the first 3, but they weren't even that great. People give early SAO too much credit, because it's the last line of defense they fall back on as soon as they start realising the criticisms of the rest of the show are true as well.
Episode 1 was way too much exposition and barely told us about the main character. Episode 2 was probably the best overall, but Kirito's face-heel-turn once he's outed as a beater is pants-on-head-retarded, he had absolutely no reason to alienate and antagonise the other players, and nobody had any good reason to hate beta testers. Episode 3 had good emotional weight and is really the only time the "death game" aspect affects the main characters, but Kirito hiding his level, refusing to point out the trap room, and anybody with a functioning brain NOT realising that room was a trap, were all dumb as fuck.
Episode 4 onward is just all downhill, which is a depressing realisation when SAO at its peak was maybe a 7/10 if you're generous.

> Good
> Drifters
> Konosuba
> Overlord
We wanted good isekai, not overrated crap that are as bad as their fanbases.

I'd rather get pic related

Anyone can throw insults and act above-it-all, user, you're impressing nobody.
List Isekai that you think are good.

I fucking hate Chinese Isekai. But their powers / magic is often really good, and explained to such a degree it's entertaining in and of itself.
Especially when they go indepth on how to advance.
And even better when they spend chapter upon chapter for world building and explaining the laws of the universe, especially when incorporating that whole enchanting magical items shtick China seems to love.

Basically, the only good thing they do is the world building. It's often done (in some of the better ones) to an autistic degree. Which never fails to interest me.

I kinda wish Japan took a hint from that. I'd like an Isekai where there is autistic level world building like that, and because of it, the MC goes full autismo and just fucks everything off and goes on magical research trip around the world, just learning shit. No annoying harem shit. No annoying girls. Just magical learning.

>Good ones.
> Lists wrong series.
> Not mentioning Escaflowne, 12 Kingdoms or Digimon.

Isekai vs time travel who is good

Holy fuck. That really was an isekai.

Its went isekai is not mainstream

Most practical isekai here.

You are like a little baby. Watch this.
Isekai with time travel.

Am I the only one who hates it when Isekai protags bring modern technology to that world, and it's somehow super effective?
I don't know. To me, Magic and Magical Techniques and Abilities should be stronger than guns.

Maybe that's just me.

>Isekai

Superior anime right here.

But its have otaku loli and harem

Twelve kingdoms, Digimon, Escaflowne. These are far better than the crappy series you listed and whose fanbase are full of hypocrites (konosubafags), "read the LN response to everything" faggots (Overlordfags), and overraters that don't have any clue to consistency and tone (Drifterfags).

If only they not have magic just medival world

it's the case in shieldbro.

Well, you can blame the Empire for being dumb enough not to employ a large army of mages and instead relied on the brute force of sword and shield.

See:

It was great as dungeon crawler in virtual world. Short stories and few first chapters were great, later arc was meh, Alicization is fun again for altogether wrong reasons. GG was...entertaining.
Very hard actually if said magical system is to be consistent. It's kinda like making new language - and creating it is actually the easy part. Applying all new and often non-intuitive rules to the story is real challenge. Using easily recognizable system is a shortcut but if used well it acts as one, so readers and writers can concentrate on story or worldbuilding; Log Horizon is nice example of using mechanics as a story generator, as is Overlord.

What if this reality is just our real selves getting isekai'd with our real memories suppressed so we wouldn't suspect that anything is wrong?

What if our fetishes are just whatever was normal in the original world?

It's more annoying when they effortlessly develop all the modern conveniences including guns simply because they came from a modern time. Even RtW is completely guilty of this, despite how people seem to love defending it.

I agree that magic should be stronger than guns but if some guy across from you is chanting an incantation for his spell and you blow his brains out it doesn't really matter what's stronger because he's still dead.

Welcome to Buddhist, Indian and Chinese mythology.

Don't drink Meng Po's tea.

If you like modern tech vs less modern tech watch jipang

What if our original world is full of magic and cute 2D girls but to make us believe this isn't an isekai "they" created isekai animus

> Overlord
> good example
> Randomly select parts of a game alive.
> Convenience of the plot unexplained anytime soon.
> No concrete reason as to why it happened with that sort of magic that even Overlordfags have no real answer to and just speculation.
> Everything else is just standard-fantasy magic and shit.
How about no?

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Also, mecha.