Jordan Peterson accidentally debunked the official Holocaust story

In this video:
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He talks about how evil and illogical it was for the Nazis to gas all the kikes. However he thus made it clear, that gassing 6 million jews was unproductive und illogical. So assuming that Hitler was smart, the official story makes no sense

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Hitler invaded Russia, he wasn't the most logical military strategist.

It’s almost as if his doctors who had him on ampedamines and cocaine injections were up to something ...

>thinking the man who denounced Germans, calling for their extinction for losing the unwinnable war he started is logical or rational

>illogical

He was never a great military strategist, if he would've listened to his SS generals more often than hamfisting his supremacy than we'd have a greater germany still today.

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Your digits are pretty ironic

Made Germany the strongest, wealthiest and proudest it's ever been

Newfags get out REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>the boomer might realize something doesn't make sense
>the boomer will never allow himself to admit why it doesn't make sense
Don't get your hopes up.

>muh 6 million NO WAIT muh 120 million casualties of Hitlers mayhem.
God this guy is a faggot.

>worshiping a man who caused the demonetization of any sort of western nationalism for the rest of time
>the same man who said GERMANS DESERVE TO PERISH for losing his war
fuck you cuck

>So assuming that Hitler was smart
Except he wasn't. Literally the only thing he was good at was being charismatic.

thats all you need to rule the world baby
deal with it

Overall Hitler was stupid. He should have had women working on the arms like America did. Hitler lost a lot of man power because of this.

He didn’t rule the world ha

Trump does

>stand up for western values
>the rest of the "west" teams up on destroying you and shaming your ideals
>its your fault the west is dead
Better not do anything goyim, the backlash will only make things worse don't you know?

People often forget about the great military minds in Hitlers military. You ignore them and worship Hitler, well Hitler is the reason why Germany lost because he thought he was a god at literally everything, he was a great leader but that's where it ended.

Trump is not stupid though ha

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Wtf man, Summer didn't even come yet

He stood up for western values by killing millions of white people and invading Russia, that makes sense. He should've listened to the people around him. The problem is he wanted everything in the span of one war, his Generals didn't have delusional ambition as he did.

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>sacrifices own nation to prevent the spread of Communism across the entire European continent.

Wow, looks like his sacrifice failed miserably. We all know how that went, you idiot.

one two three four i declare a brainlet war

fuck of captcha you piece of shit.

Man this place really got infested with reddit and Peterson centrist fan boys

>Hitler invaded Russia, he wasn't the most logical military strategist.
They'd have conquered it easily, if America didn't get involved, which they only did because communist sympathizers were in charge.

>fuck of captcha you piece of shit.

The word exists, brainlet.

Well. he THOUGHT that having Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia, and Finland on his side would help.
If it weren't for America opening the western front back up, they could've pushed into Moscow with the extra supplies.
And, don't forget, Russia STILL lost around 3-5 men for every man Germany lost, despite fighting in their own fucking country against less soldiers.

I think the word you're looking for is demonized you fucking ballsack.

EVERYONE'S A FUCKING JEW!!!

I guess we have to gas everyone on Earth them.

A war between commies and everyone else was inevitable. He attacked when Stalin least expected it and was least prepared, so it was the best possible moment. Too bad the US decided to support the commies rather than stay neutral, or the war might have gone in a completely different direction.

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wasn't Hitler extremely well-read too?
Seems odd that a well-read man who became leader of Germany could be characterized as "stupid".
Which means he was smart.
Which means that he was smart enough not to "gas all the kikes".
Which means Holocaust is largely a lie.

Nazi Germany never had a choice but to slowly get choked out or to go with war. Long before it had taking any military actions it was facing strong economic boycotts and opposition purely for its ideals. Britain and the United States especially were guilty of this. Likewise, the United States put similar economic pressure on the Japanese, which is what brought them to declare war on the US. Hitler constantly sought to make peace with Britain but they were unwilling to negotiate and Britain even indefinitely imprisoned high ranking officials sent purely on peace missions without hearing them out. The alliance with Russia was never going to last either, and so was ended in what seemed the most opportunistic way possible. Ultimately Germany lost, but not because it made the wrong decisions. The geopolitics of the world at the time simply wouldn't permit a nation like it to exist, and the world was already globalized enough that it couldn't withstand the pressure. Any nation trying to do the same thing would meet the same fate, no matter its brilliance.

That's why I'm surprised that no one really noticed the video the way I did

Hitler did more illogical things than the holocaust. Pointing out that it's illogical doesn't mean anything.

>Hitler invaded Russia, he wasn't the most logical military strategist.
Hindsight is 20/20, huh? Let me tell you something my burger friend. Do you know why Napoleon's campaign ended in disaster? Because the Russians burned EVERYTHING, including the so-called Third Rome, condemning at least hundreds of thousands of their own subjects to death by starvation (assuming the cold didn't get to them first). Hitler's general staff actually studied Napoleon's campaign and decided a repeat of this scenario would mean Russian suicide (as it would mean dismantling their own industry, which was about 70% West of the Urals). His general staff also remembered WW1, in which Russia was made short work of by the German army.

The invasion wasn't stupid, what was stupid was Hitler's direct order (overriding the orders of his generals) to not give an inch. Stalin ordered his men to not take one step back, but he was on the defensive. Hitler did the same on the offensive, despite his own generals wanting to stay on the defensive during the winter only to continue that campaign during the summer.

Some other blunders of Hitler include:
>The invasion of France (His own general staff deemed it impossible, and it should have been impossible if Gamelin wasn't retarded. He's often accused of fighting as if it was WW1, but if he did that he would have multiple defensive and reserve lines which would indeed halt the German advance)
>Operation Sealion (even under the best possible circumstances it would inevitably end in failure, hence why it never left the drawing board)
>Constantly mingling with the orders of people who actually went to military academy
>Wasting money on "wunderwaffen" rather than increasing production efficiency
>Siding with Japan

>Prevents the spread of communism by giving half of Poland to the SU

The line Peterson is pushing here is not that Hitler was stupid but that he was ultimately a just an evil mastermind who wanted destruction. That to me is absolute horseshit.

Like what? I just think he got betrayed and backstabbed, and don't give me he should have listened to his generals meme

ya we get it slavs are incompetent

>generals meme
German generals in both world wars were the best at one thing: blaming other people for their own failures after the fact. You can see it in the backstab meme and in all the generals who after the war writing books saying why it was mean old Hitler's fault that something didn't work. It's bullshit. Never believe a german general.

Yeah. That leads me to believe that he either knows, but can't speak up on this. (Canada holocaust law) or that he refuses to swallow the final red pill. The new video where he tell the guy who gave him a book about jewish influence, and asked about jewish intent to kill christian european men. Peterson said he cant answer the question, but will read the book. That would support theory one. Lets hope for the best timeline

>I just think he got betrayed and backstabbed
By whom? Offer some evidence.

>and don't give me he should have listened to his generals meme
It's not a meme if it's a valid argument, especially considering Hitler never made it to the rank of officer (if you exclude the fact that being head of the Nazi party automatically made him supreme commander of the SA and SS).

>Don't trust the people who are in a position to know
>Instead trust the wishful thinking narrative that has nothing to back it up
All I ask of you is that you make the "Hitler was backstabbed" narrative more plausible.

>So assuming that Hitler was smart
Flawed assumption. he was a turbo brainlet meth addict who tried to invade Russia and didn't learn from the mistakes of Napoleon 100 years earlier.

look at all these turbo brainlets actually defending hitler's decision to invade russia, the mistake that literally doomed european civilization 70 years later.

>people think the guy who trusted italians to do ANYTHING is smart
lmao

Lots JIDF shitting up the board these days

>Don't trust the people who are in a position to know
No, I don't trust people who are in a position to be blamed for their failures or who could be punished even more for praising Hitler when they shit on Hitler. They have every incentive in this situation to lie and I expect them to do exactly that. You can continue to be credulous if you want. Your ignorance is quite mainstream.
>Instead trust the wishful thinking narrative that has nothing to back it up
That's a nice strawman you built there. Tell me what I support besides taking what people say with a grain of salt and examining their motivations?
>All I ask of you is that you make the "Hitler was backstabbed" narrative more plausible.
It isn't my job. I don't care if Hitler was or wasn't backstabbed. I only care about the truth, no matter what it is.

Supposedly, a few years before WWII, Churchill said to Ribbentrop of the Italians "We had them last time, it is only fair you take them this time."

>the absolute state of italy

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He has also said that "most of his friends are jews". I'm leaning towards that he is aware of what f. ex. Solzhenitsyn thinks about jews but can't accept that into his world view. The more far fetched theory is that he pushes a kosher line to help young white men, highly effectively, and hopes they find the truth on their own. Almost like a jewish tactic against the jews.

>the goy greets you as a friend as he strikes you

What logic is this even? Stupid faggot. This is how totalitarian assholes function, they have impossible dreams and visions and they go out of their way to do everything possible to materialise them, just as how his planned Welthauptstadt Germania was never going to happen due to a number of reasons, he still had very serious plans for them

Hitler was smart but dedicated all his talents to make everyone else just as miserable as he was. There is no contradiction in this.

Would spray painting this
6 000 000 - 2 500 000 ≠ 6 000 000
on a wall in Germany be a case of hate crime or just vandalism?

Getting rid off subversive Jews was not a dumb thing. Americans are about to lose control over their country permanently and you wonder why Hitler did what he did? He made it pretty clear: if Jews continued to scheme, the result would be the destruction of the Jewish race in Europe. Alas, he did not succeed.

So if you have a workforce and some groups earn more than others, that outcome should make you infer the motivation of the people who created the system and also benefit from it by being the wealthiest group? I thought he didn't believe in the wage gap. Which one is it?

JP being BASED as usual

I will reply to some posts shortly, however I took a break

He's coming along nicely. Its a process that takes awhile.

Probably would fall under Holocaust denial which is years in prison

Look at this chart. What does this imply?
Likely kek

Agreed. I refuse to beleive that we have THAT many newfags here

>By whom? Offer some evidence.

By Italy, Poland and the USA. All of this countries used to be positive or neutral to Germany, before the war started. Poland was used as a pawn by the globalists in order to declare war on Germany

>It's not a meme if it's a valid argument, especially considering Hitler never made it to the rank of officer (if you exclude the fact that being head of the Nazi party automatically made him supreme commander of the SA and SS).

Hitler was a brilliant strategist. Take a look at the chart that I posted. What does this mean?
HItler made Germany in a short period of time into the strongest country in the world, the military got buffed to the strongest in the world, he restored a sense of community and pride in germans and made the country very rich. However the wealth got distributed greatly, and the average german used to live in a higher standard than today.

Hitler received the Iron Cross, both second and first class, and that along with his "wound badge" were what he wore most often. They were not self-awarded, the wound badge was for his gassing, and the Iron Cross was awarded by his superior officer on the front, who happened to be a Jewish fellow from Prussia.
Hitler was definetly not a weakling.

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> assuming that Hitler was smart

Invading Russia was a very good military decision, Stalin was building up his armies and was planning to invade him.
He just attacked first, which resulted in A LOT of early success, the Russian Army was maimed int Ukraine.

Stalingrad was a mistake and the war was then over.

Nah, he had the right idea. No rights for women.

Someone ask Mike Enoch to redpill him on the JQ in a debate.

Just stop you fucking retard.

Petercuck is arguing that group-think and identity politics makes people do irrational things. He is not fucking debunking the holocaust.

I never said that. I said ACCIDENTALLY. Read more careful next time, and don´t behave like a literal Amerimutt brainlet. Thank you!

You have no power here Satan. We all know the truth

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Poll is still open. I still think its most likely that Peterson knows that many jews are in power, but doesnt think more of it, since he himself has many jewish friends

>group-think and identity politics makes people do irrational things.
Given how suicidal Western nations have become I'm starting to think individualism, with it's worship of selfishness as the ultimate truth no matter what it does to the surrounding environs is no better.

What sanity is there in being selfish if it destroys everything around you?

Peterson is a good entry level red pill. Maybe he is dropping small big fat red pills,like Prwdiepie, but we need more evidence for that claim

God, you stormniggers need to fuck off with your cult of personality bullshit around Hitler. You fucks give real National Socialists a bad name, because any real one wouldn't act like Hitler made no mistakes, and any that he did was somehow the fault of the Enemy. Hitler despised people treating others as gods, you fake fucks.

>i'm a brainlet, the comment

Hitler had spies who knew Stalin would have his war machine ready in one or two years tops and there's no way he would stand a chance against Russia then. He may have lost but he did the only logical thing which was to blietz them before their MIC is fully developed and unstoppable. He almost won it too.

Point Hitlers mistakes out then

And explain this chart. How could this happen, if he suppousedly was so bad at war?

>mfw hitler got nationalism demonitized on youtube

we can never forgive him

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Great bantz, even thouh you aren´t australian. Respect kek

Why should I detail something that any non-subhuman would already know? Those who aren't a stormnigger like yourself wouldn't need someone to point out Hitler's mistakes because you would already know. Get the fuck out of this site and come back when you've done your research. You can scream deflection all you want, but that won't change the fact that I'm whiter than you, untermensch.

>Look at this chart. What does this imply?
i don't know about imply, but it certainly infers that you have way too much time on your hands. however i completely agree.

Found the jew.

The points I usually see floating around here can be easily disproved. Like that he should have listened to his general, not have declared war on Poland or not have invaded Russia so early. So got anything else?

Didn´t make the chart, but thx

Peterson is great and /ourguy/, however it is good that he hides his powerlevel

I probably should have used a Jordan Peterson picture in the OP. Oh well...

he described it pretty perfectly, hitler clearly didnt want to gas the yews at first but once he started to lose he went ape shit on them. if you were going to go down in a years time you would cause the maximum amount of damage as you possibly could to the people who you hate the most.

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