Can someone explain why goverments care what people

Can someone explain why goverments care what people
injest in the privacy of their own home

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Because thanks to king nigger I have to pay your medical bills

Weed is the dumbest fucking drug you can do. Nigger tier shit

Pot isn't really the issue, it's heroin, crack, cocaine, speed. Pot is banned more for historical reasons than practical.

When I was 15 I would have agreed with you.

lel welp, 420 Brother!

this.
grow up and do coke like an adult

grand standing for votes

*thanks to Reagan.

He's the one who signed the EMTALA, preventing hospitals that accept any amount of medicare from turning away people in need of emergency treatment.
The ACA is a way of reducing the cost of this, which is why conservatives wrote it in the first place.

You don't understand how your own country works, you don't even have a passing familiarity of the adult world. I doubt that you've ever earned one thin dime in your life, let alone paid for anybody's anything.

Faggots. Smoking some dank and chilling is the best. Getting hyped up on stimulants is for rave faggots and party girls looking to get fucked.

It is all about money easy as that more people on pot less on prescription drugs less money they get

They dont?

The big issue here is use in general, which includes outside of your home, like alcohol in bars. Literally no one gives a shit what you do in your own privacy.

>t. Pharmashill

Thankfully my friends stopped my from trying coke, but I do wonder what it's like. I've tried LSD and mescaline. Coke sounds like an extreme caffeine high.

canada spent 22 billion last year on booze 5 billion on pot. now you know why.

How degenerate are people that they smoke so much goddamn weed? OP's pic related is like a lifetime supply for me, and I smoke every night.

Yeah just keeps you up to talk shit all night

No because it would take too long and you wouldn't understand it / not care anyway.

Yeah doesn't seem worth it.

Psychoactives are the only "hard" drugs that seem worth it. I don't really mind their status except I feel scientists (hard science) should have access to them. Quite a few scientists who had LSD ended up very successful.

Indeed....
Mushrooms = 100,000 thousand years of use
Salvia/ayahuasca/iboga/peyote/coca leaf/marijuana (not cocaine) = 10,000 years of use

Said substances and their illegality = infringment of human rights.
You may not believe in the use of said substances...but really...how the fuck can they regulate something that is ingrained with human nature?

It's too easy to grow. Tobacco is actually a fairly labor intensive crop for a small scale grower. Pot not so much. Think of all of that liquor and big pharma revenue you are now out of. I can't smoke because I have an adult job, but I understand why it's illegal.

Daily weed thread
Favorite strain
Sage n Sour

ayahuasca is really cool. You drink it around a fire, you puke, then you have a vision. That's one thing I really respect about the indigenous americans. I would bet it's why they could predict astronomy so accurately.

I spent a lot of time reading erowid around 2000.

One of the few non-degenerate experiences.
You have to go through the purge if you want to get the visions.
You hit the nail on the head. You got to work to get the reward.
The purge comes from working out your personal demons. Not a party drug and NOT for people looking for a good time, you have to confront them devils if you want to gain insight.

>cocaine, speed
Aren't a problem either.

they care theyre not getting the money from it they don't really care what you do

Smoking or edibles?

did you ingest it injest? HA

Can someone explain why Sup Forums cares what people ingest in the privacy of their own anus?

you surely are a product of incest

because you faggots dont just do it in your own home
you do it on street corners and in bars and in your cars and on college campuses and outside hospitals and in public parks

legal here (CO)

It harms society and the people consuming these drugs.
Personally I am a prohibitionist and most drugs should be forbidden and the punishment for producing them should be something between a decade in prison (small scale production for one person) to the death penalty (large scale production for more then a couple of people).

I'm guessing you've never eaten chocolate or drank tea, coffee, or beer?

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It's extremely important for the government to have some excuse to throw people in prison whenever they feel the need to do so. That's also why CP is so harshly punished despite the unconstitutionality of banning it. Government doesn't like you, they frame you and lock your ass up. If you're a poorfag they put drugs in your car. If you're a richfag they put CP on your computer. Meanwhile the government runs drugs by the ton and allows child predators with connections to abuse kids. None of these laws are for the good of anyone who doesn't glow in the dark.

Yes it is definitely earned. I've had a few pukes and it's the right way to go, as you said it's earned. Mostly had morning glory seed juice, which is LSA. The puking was referred to as being next to the porcelain altar, the toilet, but I mostly did it in nature.

Erowid had a lot of articles back then in the 2000's. Made me really respect ayahuasca and using natural psychoactives. People would go to mexico to do it there, but I was just fine in the US.

>Can someone explain why goverments care what people
>injest in the privacy of their own home
Kikes that want to profit off of the drug war

>It harms society and the people consuming these drugs.
Nothing worth doing is free from danger and harm.

And?
What detriment is caused by it being consumed in a public place rather than a private one?
Also, I live in California, and have seen literally nobody smoking pot in public since it was legalized excepting events celebrating said legalization.

>I'm guessing you've never eaten chocolate or drank tea, coffee, or beer?
I know that these are all drugs.
Thats why I said "most drugs".
But caffeinated drinks should not be sold to underage people.

>Nothing worth doing is free from danger and harm.
That doesn't make everything dangerous and harmful "worth doing".

How do you determine which drugs are okay and which should send you to prison for decades?

Because people profit

>That doesn't make everything dangerous and harmful "worth doing".
But you do not get to decide what is worth doing for anyone but yourself. You're no God.

Mind your ego.

>How do you determine which drugs are okay and which should send you to prison for decades?
By their harmfulness to the individual and society, EXACTLY like it is done now, just harsher.

It smells horrible, its an allergen related to rag-weed, and akin to a smelly homeless person taking a shit next to you.
Furthermore, and this is the thing you DUDEWEEDs never seem to understand: the OP said
>Can someone explain why goverments care what people
injest in the privacy of their own home
I pointed out that DUDEWEEDs dont just do it in their home, they do it fucking everywhere.

Finally, if you live in california, you must live in some backwoods shithole. I was in SF for business a week ago and all up and down Market st. there were smelly weedsters. Is 1-12 a weed holiday now too?

the problem with the LSA seeds is that they contain a nasty ass substance that ends up giving you live cancer. No matter the # of flushes you do of this nasty poison, you can't remove that shit. It bioaccumulates and will end up killing your liver, be cautious.

You are only supposed to take aya when you want to celebrate/communicate with the dead or as a rite of passage...or if you are dealing with trauma. Never pleasant, hard labor and borderline traumatic.

Was part of a aya ritual a few years back, a PTSD American grunt barfed up a black egg...shit was gnarly..dude cried, relived his kills in graphic detail...cried, screamed, barfed up the
When he came back from his trip..he felt light like a feather, had reached catharsis, his pains, anguishes and traumas were gone. The most beautiful thing I have ever seen

>But you do not get to decide what is worth doing for anyone but yourself.
Yes, but society does get to decide.

>You're no God.
The state is God's messenger on earth.

How do you determine their harmfulness to the individual and society?

Subjective. A German has no business being so illogical. I would expect it from a britshit, but not from you, though lately your people have utterly jumped the shark anyway.

Not even gonna try to avoid the cliches, are we Hans?

Some of the hardest workers, best mechanics, honest Americans are weed smokers.
These Sup Forums posts are so far wrong.
The human endocannabinoid system needs cannabinoids.
Only fags and Jews dont like weed.

>How do you determine their harmfulness to the individual and society?
EXACTLY like it is done now.

You can look at statistics about which crimes are caused by what, then look at how prevalent the use of a certain drug is and you get a nice statistic on how harmful each drugs is to society.

Then you do some research on the effects of these drugs on the human body and know how harmful they are to the individual.

>Yes, but society does get to decide.
No it doesn't, hence why all drug prohibition efforts end badly. You can't fight vice with government. Only self control can fight vice. The Buddhists figured this out long ago. Amazing that so-called enlightened and intelligent Westerners can't grasp this simple logic.
You're fighting nature. You stand no chance of winning.

>The state is God's messenger on earth.
pic related

>Subjective.
Of course, what "objective facts" do you have to offer?

>A German has no business being so illogical.
I don't see a logical inconsistency.

>No it doesn't, hence why all drug prohibition efforts end badly.
That is a myth.
counter-currents.com/2017/12/bring-back-prohibition/

> You can't fight vice with government. Only self control can fight vice.
LMAO, even reality proves you wrong.
The government is already offering help to drug addict and is putting taxes on legal drugs.

>You're fighting nature. You stand no chance of winning.
Drugs are unnatural.

What cliches?

Germans being authoritarian? That is just the truth.

Just hurry up and die already bruh.

>EXACTLY like it is done now
But that isn't how it's done now, at all. Alcohol and tobacco are more dangerous than practically all illegal drugs. I would say they're the biggest threats to human health besides heart disease and cancer, but they both contribute hugely to those so you can't really separate them. And they're perfectly legal for adults to consume.

do you mean hawaiian baby woodrose? I would never have those again because of the cyanides, even though they are much stronger.

That sounds awesome what you saw. It has to be worth the pain to experience. I am older in my 30s but perhaps I will try again if the time seems right. Life seems much simpler after.

>But that isn't how it's done now, at all. Alcohol and tobacco are more dangerous than practically all illegal drugs
They are just a representation of legacy law.

>I would say they're the biggest threats to human health besides heart disease and cancer, but they both contribute hugely to those so you can't really separate them. And they're perfectly legal for adults to consume.
I wouldn't disagree with that, that's why I want to ban them.

Drugs aren't banned because of what good people do behind closed doors.

Drugs are banned because of what idiots, degenerates, sub humans, and liberals do in open and in front of the good people's children and bring down the total quality of life.

Also to target certain groups without being direct about it. Take Nixon for example.
>Hippies do acid and smoke weed
>Ban acid and smoke weed
>Now have probable cause to arrest/search/break up their rallies and "protests"
>Niggers like heroin
>Ban heroin
>Get to lock up more ooga-boogas

>what "objective facts" do you have to offer?
If you truly cared about humanity, you'd ban "harmful" food, not drugs, since heart disease is by far the number one killer of people.

People like you want to live in a boring, safe, sterile society free from risk, and danger.
You're everything that holds mankind back. You see, we cannot go anywhere with man-imposed limitations. We just end up dying and have to restart all over. See- Modern Western Civilization

Your country is the fruit of limitation. A joke in the eyes of the world. A pile of cash for muslims to leech off of.

>ban acid and smoke weed

OH BOY that is the funniest typo I have ever done. I obviously meant to ban acid and weed.

>Drugs are unnatural.
Nothing that exists in this world is unnatural. Not according to physics and chemistry.

>That's also why CP is so harshly punished despite the unconstitutionality of banning it.

posts like this are why all libertarians are called pedos

Cause if you do enough weed you will be drug fucked and a burden for the rest of your country

>If you truly cared about humanity, you'd ban "harmful" food, not drugs, since heart disease is by far the number one killer of people.
Yes, I would put extremely high taxes on harmful food.

>People like you want to live in a boring, safe, sterile society free from risk, and danger.
I don't really think this is true at all.
I am living in a fucked up part of the city with quite a bit of crime and drug use.

>Your country is the fruit of limitation.
Whenever we removed the shackles the world had to rise to stop us.

>You're everything that holds mankind back.
I don't actually want to live in a degenerate society full of junkies and criminals, if that puts me "against the future of mankind" then so fucking be it.


I am not even going to respond to that idiocy.

>Have weed
>Don't have to buy 80% of pharmaceuticals for common discomforts
>You can grow it for free but you can't make Paracetamol without a lab.
Gee I wonder why mostly Jewish goverment don't want to lose money.

You wouldn't want the fine folks at the DEA to lose their jobs now, would you?

ya, exactly (baby seeds) Not worth the shitty trip...better to get LSD and call it a day

Oh man, ayahuasca is a friend of mine. First time I took it was to get over the death of a child in the family...I was depressed, crushed our fucking lives. Nobody had the balls to try but we got in contact with a shaman and I went balls to the wall. I walked hand-in-hand with said child and delivered her to god. Fucking intense and I no longer fear death or the great beyond. The internal pain I felt after that kid died nearly killed me inside. Took ayahuasca and vomited like never before, I barfed like it was an eternity...the last dry heave I have turned into the growl of the jungle jaguar...I became the beast and walked the jungle floor looking for prey...To this day I know it was beyond a mere hallucination.

a week ago, a childhood friend died and I undertook the experience once again, to speak to him one last time. Fucking powerful and beyond words...but it is painful and total anguish. Worth every second after you have passed the perfect storm and receive the gift you fought so hard to obtain. One last moment of pure joy with the person you have known for a lifetime.

fabulous

The hippies are now SJWs and the niggers are still niggers, and both groups are out of control. You've done nothing to help the situation. In fact you've created a class of fucking crybaby victims who tie up the legal system and cost tax dollars.

Meanwhile, people like me do whatever drugs we want. I'm a regular user of methamphetamine and PVs. I do harder drugs than most rockstars. For the fuck of it. Because it's fun and puts me as far out on the edge of alive as anyone can get. I've tasted death and have spent a countless number of days in hell just to bask in chaos and terror. I get off on it.

People like you? You're cowards. Afraid of that edge. Afraid to face death and hell. You want peace and quiet. You want a utopia. You want the same shit fucking heroin addicts want. An opiate.

LSD isn't that bad. Look up Sandoz Delysid

Two most harmful drugs in the world: tobacco and alchohol.

All this mind-altering crap is dangerous and should be suppressed. Legalizing drugs loweers short term damage, but increases problems in the long term as they lower everyone's IQs and create dependancies.

Medical opioids are destroying small towns in America and Australia. We don't need more shit that ruins your brain.

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>I am not even going to respond to that idiocy.
Nothing can exist outside of the laws of nature. You're the fucking idiot. I thought Germans were supposed to be intelligent. How the actual fuck can one of you not know the basic laws of physics?

>imnotaddictedtoweed.jpg
>Icanquitwheneveriwant.jpg
You shouldn’t be smoking this garbage unless you’re suffering from a disease like cancer.
weed is going to make you beyond dumb as shit. It’s going to raise your estrogen levels, make you docile and it’s going to destroy your wallet because once you get hooked on this crap you can’t stop smoking it.

>You wouldn't want the fine folks at the DEA to lose their jobs now, would you?

How about concentrate the entire apparatus to harmful drugs and stuff coming from abroad?

The drug prohibition is unconditionally unconstitutional btw

Yeah just like how people opposed to gun control are all aspiring spree killers. Makes total sense.

Fucking King Crimson is so good

>people actually think "their" homes belong to them
so deluded kek
you choose to live in the state's house so you play by the state's rules

You obviously are retarded but here have your replay:
UNNATURAL does not mean that "it is unrelated to everything in nature", this would make the word MEANINGLESS.
Everything is "caused by nature", thus everything is natural, THAT IS WHY UNNATURAL DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NATURE.

If I kill you by repeatedly hitting hammer over your head did you "die of natural causes", NO YOU FUCKING DIDN'T.

You don't understand the word "natural" and are calling me the stupid one.

Writing this out was more attention then you idiot, memeflag deserved.

Because it's a stupid fucking nigger drug. Stop doing it and clean up your life.

Yeah, I don't believe it is in fact unconstitutional. I will say, that as someone who finds abusing children to be pretty much the worst thing a human can do, up there with unprovoked torture, I believe that the laws regarding mere possession of child pornography are too punitive. I believe that producing child pornography should get the government to throw the book at you, but possession isn't really hurting anyone (obviously production does). I think it is another example of the government trying to fight human nature, like the war on drugs (though the war on drugs is a mess that is way way more ridiculous).

false dichotomy. Don't do any drugs.

>did you "die of natural causes", NO YOU FUCKING DIDN'T.
Technically, yes I did.
Just because the government is retarded doesn't make it right.
People like you who pervert the definitions of words are more of a problem than drug users.

>le hippies are SJW
>hippies were bad because muh pop culture jokes

Leave it to Americans to completely misunderstand their own social history

Fuck off, you clearly don't understand what I am talking about.

>Tfw I can do dabs daily then stop like nothing happend for 3+ weeks straight.

>B-but you got back to it

Yeah no shit it's because I enjoy it. The day I start getting delirium tremens from not smoking you'll have a valid point.

>thinks being under the chemical influence of a plant is best
you're weak

endless this

>UNNATURAL does not mean that "it is unrelated to everything in nature", this would make the word MEANINGLESS

unnatural means either 2 things: supernatural(magic) or "unnatural"(something that shouldn't be able to exist)

That is great to hear. I can't experience what you did and that sucks you had to see so much death. Maybe I will try again, but it's a rough experience.

What was the shaman visit like, just somewhere in a jungle?

Yeah and if someone "didn't die because of natural causes", it was a mighty wizard who killed him.

Because you’re a retard. Pychedelics/Entheogens have been a part of human history and Classical history since forever, starting with the Eleusian Mysteries and the Oracles of Delphi. That doesn’t mean everyone should do drugs, but calling psychedelics “unnatural” is being a dishonest LARPer.

The war on drugs started as a way for the Nixon administration to target blacks and hippies. Former white house aides have even confirmed this. That is why it started. It continues because propaganda has caused many Americans to think that criminalizing mere possession of drugs is an effective way to fight drug use and that drug use is a danger to society. That is why it was escalated during the Reagan years.

I'm against drug prohibition, but I would like to mention that natural doesn't mean healthy and that unnatural doesn't mean unhealthy. I would also like to mention that most drugs are natural as they occur in natural (even methamphetamine).

>but calling psychedelics “unnatural” is being a dishonest LARPer.
I am calling synthetic drugs produced in a lab "unnatural".

Clearly natural drugs exists and can be found in nature.

If you've taken adderall before its a lot like cocaine. I actually prefer adderall to cocaine honestly.

>Yeah and if someone "didn't die because of natural causes", it was a mighty wizard who killed him.

If you mean natural literally, then yes

>turkey contains tryptophan
BAN IT

>If you mean natural literally
natural
ˈnatʃ(ə)r(ə)l/Submit
adjective
1.
existing in or derived from nature; not made or caused by humankind.
"carrots contain a natural antiseptic"
2.
in accordance with the nature of, or circumstances surrounding, someone or something.
"sharks have no natural enemies"