Sup Forums will defend this

>Sup Forums will defend this

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Dumb people don't deserve luxury.

TIL: Minimum must be the average.

>waaaah why cant i live in a nice apartament while flipping burgers

>Average US tent includes places like Jewyork and Commiefornia, where rent and mortgages are 3k plus

Average rent around me is roughly 800-1000 even less if you have roomates, when I first started out on my own I had 4 roomates and we all pairs 300 a month for a house. It's almost like minimum wage isn't supposed to be a livable wage...

A fucking mortgage and rent will and should costs more than a quarter of most incomes. Get a real fucking job I haven't worked for minimum wage since I was 14 and had to have my mother sign a waiver for me to work that young and live in nigger Baltimore.

Sup Forums makes 100K+ a year in STEM fields and doesn't give a fuck

I make more than that both gross and net of taxes.

wtf are you talking about man

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>comparing average rent to minimum wage
if you are working on minimum wage you shouldn't be able to afford average apartment

It’s a shame American parents don’t love their kids enough, and in turn American kids don’t love their parents enough, to pool resources so (((rent hikes))) are not a problem. All that money pissed away on rent just to be free of your family, a cornerstone of society, could go into investments, emergency funds, college education for your own kids.

>mfw my rent for a 1br/1ba with a fireplace is less than $300/month
God bless North Dakota

People act like it’s hard find $30 hr job....

>average
Lol.

but 4924 / month is about GDPPC
so 1235 average is 25% average.
>socialists, always retarded.

/thread

ITT: countries with no minimum wage
:^)

It really is an American thing to need to move out of your parents house ASAP, when for 99% of human history and 99% of the rest of the world your wife moves in with you in your parents home and you have three generations living under one roof and when your parents die you're about to become grandparents yourself and still don't move out so your family has the same house for generations, but that in and of itself is a mindblowing concept to Americans, a building being older than a few decades.

If you want nice things, you should get a good education or work hard. If you earn minimum wage, it means that you're also doing the bare minimum. Doing the bare minimum gets you the bare minimum.

>>Sup Forums will defend this

Do one and learn about national socialism you stupid fuck.

So is this sand Nigger trying to say the minimum wage should be 30.77?

>muh average
Why do you retards allow yourselves to be tricked?

>1
>2
>3
>4
Did he pull that number out of his ass?

>for rent to cost less than a quarter of income

Lol

Exactly, just kill those that rent out and it will be 0.

Of course

>Paying trying to pay "average" when you are being paid "minimum" wage
It's almost as though this person doesn't understand basic mathematical concepts like minimums or averages.

Also;
>Living without a roommate on minimum wage
There's your second mistake.

It should be $14.88 and stay that way.

>the lowest income people should be able to easily afford the average house.

>Thus the average house will increase

>Thus the minimum rent will too

>ad infinitum

I fucking hate lefties.

.5 bathrooms
how?

Why do retards think the MINIMUM wage is supposed to give them a middle class income?

>average rent
>in a fully modernized brand new apartment in the safest trendy neighborhood in a city over 300,00

>Shill more government, the government allows inflation
Get upset you can't afford anything anymore
>Shill more government, the government allows inflation
Get upset you can't afford anything anymore
>Shill more government, the government allows inflation
Get upset you can't afford anything anymore
>Shill more government, the government allows inflation
Get upset you can't afford anything anymore

Repeat to infinity or social collapse.

THAT'S AMAZING! I GOT THE SAME COMBINATION ON MY LUGGAGE!

What they should really shill is killing people who rent for profit with 0 work.

JIj bent echt een mongooltje.

rent out a room in a house, have roommates, like every other American while trying to better your situation. Dumb Nigger OP

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why are we comparing avg rent to minimum wage?
seems like cheaper apertments would be a fair comparison

why do they think a kid with a job still in highschool should be able to afford a (very nice at that price) apartment using ONLY a fourth of his monthly income

do they even listen to themselves?

excuse me fuck head? what exactly will i defend?

>taking the average of all rents
>same math applied for the "wage gap"
that's what you get for trusting a muslim with math

Lol what kind of retarded expectation is this? Let's claim rent is 1200. Utilities 150, phone 50, internet optional but I'll throw it in anyways for 50. Insurance 75 for mid 20s, transportation 300 food is about 10 per meal if you buy fastfood (cheaper like 3-5 if you make your own) so 1000, variable expenses 300.
Total doesn't even break 4000. And this is a life of luxury. Kill the car, internet, make your own meals and total cost goes to around 2500.
Fucking millennials today man, they don't know what their priorities are

Lol gentrify Detroit ... For that amount buy two crackhouses ... Use money you would spend on a normal house to redo as fortress ... Rent out one to pay for your own ... And save for armored car

>comparing average rent to minimum wage
>using rent to income ratio required to live comfortably rather than just survive
What's the point of this?

Most people do earn almost that, the average wage is 25 bucks. It's not perfect but a lot closer to a quarter (which seems a fairly arbitrary amount). This guy just assumes everyone earns minimum wage.

>Comparing average rent with minimum wage

It's like you literally have to be retarded to tweet lefty hot takes on twitter

The minimum wage gets the minimum house. The average wage gets the average house. Not that complicated.

maybe not spend 1234 dollars on rent if ur on minimum wage
????

>bent flag pole
the self hate is strong

Where is it written that every American deserves to live in their own apartment?

If you only make $8 an hour, its obvious you should still be living with your parents or maybe in a commune.

Below average skills gets you a below average life.

Minimum wage = minimum life. You want an average life? Learn how to do something other than flip burgers

Why are Americans always after gibs? Why can't you incompetent fucks make it in the land of possibilities? I've had a friend move there, within 3 years he already bought himself land worth around $100k. Know how he did it? Hard work.

Here in bumfuck Romania the minimum wage is $507, which after taxes is really $300. A month. The average rent costs around $120. Know what we do? We manage. Whoever can't make it America really is a complete and utter mongoloid.

I have no problem with this, as I make a little more than twice the quoted monthly salary.

Get some skills nigger. The more you learn the more you earn.

Bathrooms with no shower are exressed as .5

There is no minimum wage in Italy and we do just fine. Minimumg wage does nothing except drive inflation, retard.

If you have a below average job you will live a below average life, strictly materially speaking.
The thing is that a below average life can be quite good when you consider what below average lives used to look like historically.

Honestly, even if you are less than average money you can probably afford electricity and food.

Median household income US:
$59,039

Median Rent US:
$864

Presuming my math is correct:
Monthly median income is about
4919.92 (rounded to nearest cent. 25% of that is 1229.98.

So the median income more than covers the 25% cost criteria and then some.

Bathrooms with out bath/shower and just a toilet are a half bath.

Do you think he even noticed before posting that? So ingrained, I wonder.

>I'm a helpless little baby give me free shit

except minimum contractual in every kind of contract, faggot

leggiti i cazzo di contratti, i CCNL COGLIONE, ci sono i minimi contrattuali testa di cazzo
se poi sei un negro che lavora in nero perchè fa il cameriere son cazzi tuoi

>average vs median
They're not even trying to think about things.

Why should minimum wage be able to afford the "average" rent? If you could afford that much on mimimum wage, the average rent would increase so that minimum wage earners couldn't afford it again.

When you are on minimum wage, you should be living in the cheapest rent place you can find and have a room mate or 2 at least, in order to save money to either go to school to get some skills or start a business or something.

people should really stop trying to live off high school jobs

>Increase minimum wage
>Increase sale prices
>Small business can't increase prices they cut off their staff
>When all sales items are increase and incomes are increase, rent is increase to reach to that demand
>We reach the same position we are a few years ago
>leftie brainlets will complain "HUR THUR MINIMUM WAGE IS X BUT RENT IS X"
>Cycle continues
>We all lose

You can be hired outside of any CCNL you stupid retard.

>Americans discourage cohesive family units at great expense
Funny that.

Move to a state with lower cost of living or get a better paying job in the state you're in.

These people never take into account the differences between regions. You couldn't live in an apartment in new york for the wages you'd make in bumfuck Tennessee, but you'd live like a king the other way around.

They never take responsibility for themselves or take the reigns of their own lives. It's actually sorta sad. Like watching directionless children wander aimlessly crying for their mommy.

Good goy, move out. Forget your own blood and come (((rent))) my 15 square meters apartment, you wanna live in a trendy city don't you? Just 3000 shekels a month.

To solve this requires a 2 pronged approach being the result of ending housing assistance and welfare.

1) Then rents come down because people don't have to compete with the government's dime. Poor people, unable to afford housing, move to areas with below average rent ( also average used should be median not mean ).

2) wages in pricey areas increase because there will be no people available to work the shitty jobs in the area for less than a living wage

$1234 average rent? calling bullshit

Rents really cheap if you live in a black neighborhood :^)

lol underrated post

i can help you understand the phenomenon britanon. all these wars have fucked us up. everyone has ptsd and familys are very abusive. children move out as soon as possible as it is custom to ramp up the abuse after the age of 18 to force the "child" out

Wrong. Less than 40% is the standard. I make 3.2k per month net and pay 1.3k per month and live very comfortably

>It's almost like minimum wage isn't supposed to be a livable wage...

It actually is, you fucking moron. That's why it's called a minimum wage. Because it's suppose to be just enough for living.

Maybe the thing to do is keep or even increase the welfare and housing assistance that has kept blacks concentrated in their neighborhoods, but make government's gibs only available after voluntary sterilization.

Actually, that's average household income, not individual. Your point is correct though.

> tfw bought a house and it costs way less than renting would

There are apartments in my city less than $500 a month. And while there are poor areas here, there's nowhere truly "ghetto", so it's the sort of place you could actually live, even if it isn't ideal.

THIS MATH IS WRONG AND BUT BECAUSE ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO CALCULATE

Where I live minimum wage is 17.50

Rent is ~250 a week for a share room.

To afford average rent, you need an average job.

The person who posted that thinks the minimum and the average should be the same... this person should immediately self-terminate (0.45 to the head preferably but hanging is fine too).

I make way more than that and pay way less than that. Maybe everybody needs to take a step back, realize they don't need to be living like a celebrity, and reevaluate their financial decisions.

Good point, according to this: time.com/money/4830674/rent-afford-increase-prices/ median rent is $864.

I live downtown in a big city and my rent is 700 per month in a perfectly acceptable apartment
If you're paying 1200 per month then you need to split the rent with a roommate or a wife or something. This isn't hard.

The only place that is standard is few big cities.

I live in DC and that's about the price for a studio for one person.

Until you can afford that, you basically live with housemates or the ghetto

>applying an average figure, which includes huge mcmansions, central city apartments etc, rather than low end places that min wage cucks should actually be renting

>Rent should not be more than a quarter if income - even if you earn minimum wage

...

This argument again. If you search for minnimum wage jobs you are going to get less. If you search for office jobs or any other line of work you will make more especially in Full time.

Australian here.

It is hard.

Americans have no idea.

Just wait until more chinks flood your borders. Just ask Canada. They know. This shit is ridiculous.

Pic related. That's the prices for an apartment in a shithole neighborhood right next to an Aboriginal Housing Project.

To clarify, in a shitty, high crime suburb, the average WEEKLY rent in U.S. Dollars for a shitty one bedroom flat is 340 per week.

>I should be able to pay for a good apartment
>that I don't share with anyone
>and still have money left over
>from my job of bagging groceries

>living from paycheck to paycheck
Just to eat, clothe, media and a roof on top.

It really shouldn't. Unless you want to live in shitty countries like Brazil.

In the U.S. you actually have options though. You have work and affordable living outside of the two major cities.

In Australia it's a fucking joke (and our politicians tell us we should be happy to be pulling closer to fucking Singapore/Hong Kong/South East Asia/Chinese standards of living).

If you hadn't flooded the country with Mexicans for cheap labor you'd be able to.

They have a point - otherwise why would you work?

220k a year no degree really.

It really is I can explain the mindset first hand. Kike media, movies etc says "oi vei it's embarrassing to live with your parents get a job and become independent" then you also have this strange thought that females will think badly of you just because you live with your parents. It's just crazy how it is here. I am starting to think it's just too much.

My rent is 795 for a 2 bedroom 2 bathroom apartment and I make about $4500/Monthly. Try not living in a nigger infested metro

Also in my estimation if you live around public transit if you must live in a Metro you can deduct quite a bit of money from not owning a car and insurance. It's funny how the people that bitch about this are on welfare and likely get so much of their shit subsidized.