Why can’t we have a free healthcare system? Europe and Canada have great healthcare systems

Why can’t we have a free healthcare system? Europe and Canada have great healthcare systems.

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I like how they think the medical system is what makes someone healthy. When we gas all the fat fucks, niggers/roasties, smokers, drug addicts and alcoholics, and force people to hit the gym, I'll be more than happy to join a universal healthcare plan.

wait times and lack of doctors, essentially go to a free walk-in clinic and that is every hospital in the nation, people with odd complaints that likely shouldnt be there, people with colds and shit, and then those with bad shit. Also remember that it will increase your taxes so the government can pay for it, cheaping out as governments do so as to make the service usable but not as good as it could be.

I am willing to pay taxes for this, i think in the long term it benefits everyone including me. I may not be able to buy a big car, but materialism is nigger tier to begin with.

Because the boomers are making a killing on healthcare stocks so suck it up

>Europe
it's very different through continent. Also nothing is free. Everybody gets basic care through work, school or unemployment and you have extra health thatt is payed by you or your employer or state if you are young or useless. Nothing is free, money doesn't just appear from nowhere. Actually it does, but that's not argument for this.

yeah our healthcare is so fucking superior to the US's guys!!!
you get immediate and quality help really fast and its never no appointments till 2020 sorry ! the physician always has top notch attention span and his only motivation is you cure your ails wow!! also my insurance never has not paid for stuff and never wants inappropriate sums money from me at all :)))))))))))))))))))))))

>free

>another bait post repeating libtard talking points that demonstrate they don't know who healthcare works in either country
>another bait post that doesn't understand that obamacare made healthcare worse by drasticly increasing insurance prices for everyone except people on permanant welfare

>Canada
>good healthcare
Pick one and only one
>mfw if i were to go to ER, I would wait 32h minimum and catch flu.

>European healthcare as explained by non-European communists

We have a massive tax burden, and even with that, the corporations still make bank. The government just acts like a middleman. And that's exactly the problem with taxes: It allows professional idealists (in other words, totalitarian sociopaths) to make your decisions for you, and speaking out against it is either impossible, or illegal.

Our system is still good because of the post-war boom. But that's what it was built on, and it's already crumbling as we speak. We're the first generation in centuries to be poorer than their parents, and we're not going to get as old, either, while living in a society that's already treating us as if we're going to live well past 90.

To top it all off, our insane commie leaders are importing third worlders at an insane pace. Most never pay back what they cost, and they cost a lot. These people never paid into the system, which is significant, because the system relies on generations paying into it and counting on the next generation paying for them. And again, this is going to hit my generation the hardest, because the people the left says will pay for us... won't. We're already dealing with the elderly living under appalling conditions simply because the money has run out. You don't hear about this because the left doesn't give two fucks about the elderly, because the left always expects to have the young vote. Yes, they are that cynical. It's also why they import votes by the hundred thousands and try to make it illegal to point this out.

The European healthcare model is already fucked. The only way we're going to have anything resembling it in the future is by cutting all the fat.

There is no such thing as free you literal infants. Healthcare in europe is not free, you are taxed. The quality is shit and it takes ages to get anything done. Meanwhile, the average american pays less money yearly on basic healthcare and is statistically in way better hands than literally anywhere in europe.

FREE, FREE, FREE! I DESERVE FREE, IT"S MY BIRTH-RIGHT WAAAH

Because nothing is free and we have too many niggers looking to exploit because muh elbow feel funni. Even in more homogenous societies, there are shortages, and America is more or less the place to go if you want medical innovation. Health tourism is a one way street, and people aren't flocking to the 'free' shit to save their lives

They are benefiting from med research done in the US. We spend more on med R&D than China or the entire EU. That's why it's so expensive.

Don't you remember how Obama said that "you probably won't live much longer than your parents" due to ACA? It's because they all knew ACA would BTFO funding for research and development to reduce cost-growth.

Then there are practical problems with "universal" type systems. Every scratch and sneeze is sent to the hospital because it's "free." Overworked doctors quit (they're already retiring faster than they're being replaced; ACA accelerated this problem) and the remainder become overworked more quickly, etc. Then they import 3rd world doctors to fill in the gaps. It's a death spiral full of miserable failure, aka communism.

we have a free healthcare system ? That is new to me.

Why do i have an additional insurance to get off waiting lists ?

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We only need the emergency room

absolutely this. france is the same

>free
Nice b8. Here’s your (You)

The prices are so fucked up here because we have a mix of Obamacare, Medicaid, Medicare and a market based system that is heavily regulated.

Our healthcare is collapsing, I took my mum to hospital over Xmas.

the place was full of Africans scrounging free healthcare and all dressed in expensive clothes, picked up outside the hospital in a new Mercedes..wtf.

I wouldn't mind so much if it was the poorest most desperate Africans but it never is,

This.

Yes having the fruits of your own labor is nigger tier.
Faggot.

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That's the whole plan, user. To rob your country of its resources.

is it "full of shit" day on Sup Forums/pol/
sage, fucking lazy janitors, clean up

it's not free and it's overburdened by boomers who clog up waiting lists for kidneys
Sweden and Canada's income tax rate is around %50

I think this is the thing the U.S is lacking and it my own deviation from the right.
In Australia my parents have had private health insurance and they get great care and I get really good care but if I want better I can get private health insurance.

We do have a free healthcare system. You just have to be coastal elite or poor as fuck. The only people who don't have "free" healthcare is the middle class.
>Get tan
>Convert to Islam
>Illegally cross into Canada
>???????
>Profit

got some buddies in Britain that say their Healthcare system is fucked. long wait times, shit service, etc...I don't see the allure

All of this

America: 85 year old falls and breaks hip. Ambulance to ER in 30 minutes, X-Ray/MRI within the hour, Surgery the next day, 2 week convalescence with PT/OT. 2 months follow on and she is back at the bingo parlor. Gets a copay of $250 for it all because of Cadillac Insurance Plan that she worked for all those years.

Europe: 55 year old falls and breaks her hip. 3 Month wait for an X-ray, surgery denied due to other health concerns and low prognosis (aka not a youthful worker class). Dies in pain and misery.

Happens exactly like that. Ofc you get bigger waiting lines and a somewhat poorer service, until a good govenment comes by, improves on it and start enforcing policies that makes people live helthier lives.

Aside from that, the free healthcare thing for me has never been for basic services, can always pay for some basic ensurance; the expensive ones are the major point in this.

>Be PA in Buffalo NY Area
>Be in school
>Working at neurosurgery clinic
>Man comes in with total nerve palsy in left arm
>roughly two weeks until total permenant loss of function
>Canada told him three month wait for appointment to see specialist
>Came to America and paid OUT OF POCKET for neurosurgery so he didnt lose his arm

I see this shit all the time. Seeing a specialist in Canada seems next to impossible, so we constantly get Canadians who commite across the border. Our doctors, especially our specialists, are top in the world. Do not ever doubt this. With average insurance and even Medicaid you can see a specoalist within a week with a copay less than $30 USD. Talk to any Canadian who has had a life or limb threatening health problem and you will understand why free market healthcare with a reasonable program for the poor is the best system on the planet.

That comic is such a fucking joke. Who honestly believes that the universal healthcare style is heaven on earth? It has its own slew of problems.
The real problem is giving access to modern medicine to an ever increasing population that is also simultaneously declining in health with every successive generation (sedentary lifestyle, bad diets, etc). We are overloading the system.
Civilization is the problem, i.e. Varg is always right