When did you grow out of individualism Sup Forums?

When did you grow out of individualism Sup Forums?

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Jesus Christ I can only imagine what Peterson is thinking

socialists are greedy people who think they are too weak to make it in the real world.

Redpill me on JP I've seriously never watched any of his videos and only know him as le clean your room man

You know him as that because that's what he is, he's trying to fix young men but he won't achieve it because most of them are already too far gone. He BTFO's leftists but that's not enough these days. Also he's Canadian "classical liberal"

Never, because I am not weakling cocksucker that is just butthurt that their fathers have neglected them.

Strong individuals working together will always triumph over collectives that enable weakness.

Peterson's head is fucking huge

>working together

He's the first redpill for a lot of normies.

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He pretty much can be boiled down to 'le clean your room man' so you were spot on.

My mother lied to my sperm donor that she was having an abortion and im not enough of a faggot to need to seek one out in someone like peterson. Bitches need to toughen the fuck up.

>Finally taking the cranial capacity red-pill

after seeing WLC wreck JP and (((Goldstein)))
>youtube.com/watch?v=pDDQOCXBrAw

When I realized all people are inherently tribal to some extent and individualism is a Jewish invention that is completely counter-nature

"I hope this does'nt offend my Jew Overlord!"

When I realized that most individuals are fucking mongs.

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Only untermench can't handle individualism.

Never. My way or the highway buddy, this is why I'm successful and you aren't

>changing your views

this just shows that you really have no principles if you change every few years. you're actually an opportunist and a nihilist

Generation X here.
It's called self reliance, and why should I bother stopping it at this age?

SAGE SHILL THREAD

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Why is it that shills hate individualism and Jordan Peterson so bad? Is it because of their anti communist ideas?

Jordan Peterson has always expressed support of MtF and FtM transsexuals, I don't understand why Sup Forums always ignores this.

well, you need collectivism to preserve individual rights

I haven't. I merely outgrew Peterson. Not everything he says is bad, but his views on ethnostates and race are very misplaced. Despite his talks of heroic figures, he himself is too timid to go there, even in his own head.

He's a cuck who supports white genocide and jewish supremacy

this white nationalism/collectivism stuff will not last long once the new right-wing figure comes along and tells you to believe in something else.

Sup Forums are conformist sheep

Is that a Sup Forumsack or a Redditor?

Ironically the clean your room meme is Peterson's greatest political accomplishment. With the reach of the internet he's reached all the young men with unambitious lazy boomers for fathers, in need of a serious role model.
Unfortunately his debates with deranged, obviously insane low-hanging fruit SJWs have all the depth of a "leftist feminist OWNED" like and share facebook post.

When I started working full time.
He's a classically liberal centrist pansy who has some disagreements with the hardcore Marxists in Ontario. Former therapist. His main job nowadays is giving nonspecific self-help advice to 16-year-olds.

>i'm an individualist sir i don't need daddy government to take care of me like you, no sirree, collectivism's for helpless weaklings

>p-please mister can i have some supplies from your village?
>i can trade you some weed, i grew it all by myself!
>also please protect me from other communities that try to claim my land, i couldn't possibly fight them all on my lonesome

>Unfortunately his debates with deranged, obviously insane low-hanging fruit SJWs have all the depth of a "leftist feminist OWNED" like and share facebook post

Actually this.
He basically speaks common sense and refuse the obviously insane and stupid arguments that are often so stupid even your average 110 IQ Joe could do on the spot.

So fascism ? That's not what peterson promotes.

I understand helping others in exchange for their help. I just don't see this abstraction. Like why should I stop doing what I want because it destroys some abstract concept called society? Why should I care how it affects millions of people I will never know or care about?

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watch it mate.

Personally I would say that these are better for a quick rundown
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You don't grow out of it you grow into it. You can only order yourself and then order the world.

What are you so mad about? I think you need to worry about yourself before you worry about everyone else. Your complaining accomplishes nothing.

>Why should I care about society?
>imposes himself on society
pic related, pal

how tall is JP?

6'2"-6'3"ish

That's just how a person functions as part of a civilization, i.e. the opposite of individualism.

I just watched the whole Cathy Newman interview. It seems like he's basically just The Voice of Reasonable Reason against SJWism.

There was a point in the interview where they essentially land on the idea that "there theoretically could be a completely different way to structure society besides the existing system of [implicitly patriarchal, to the feminist mind] hierarchy that could be just as [well functioning / competitive / welfare promoting], in which some sort of natural equality between men and women could be achieved, but which the existence of the current implicitly patriarchal system inhibits the development of. And further, it's the nature of socio-cultural structures to be self-reinforcing and self-correcting to the degree that they essentially cannot be completely eradicated without some kind of catastrophe befalling them, or totalitarian suppression of them.

This is the point where JP being The Voice of Reasonable Reason breaks down, because adopting that perspective inherently blinds him to how SJWism sees the "participating in bad faith", willfully misrepresenting what's going on to distract and mislead people, "we should literally just have a white male tax" avenue of achieving their goals as TOTALLY JUSTIFIED precisely because the white male patriarchy cannot be "destroyed from the inside" - their solution is to undermine it in every kind of consciously dishonest, unfair way that they can because they see that's the only way to achieve their goal. They bait people like JP into viewing things through the reference frame of "we're just striving for fairness and activity" and keep him tied up explaining why water is wet and wondering how on Earth they're questioning the wetness of water when in reality they understand perfectly that water is wet, they just want him to feel like it's only his failure to make sufficiently clear that water is wet that's leading the to suggest a man tax.

Mistake. He is actually 6'1"

*fairness and equality

national socialists are kind people who think they are too strong to not share with their own kameraten

>So you're saying that women (...). Women (...) is what you're saying. So you're saying...So you're saying...So You're saying women don't...

That Interview was Cancer. He should have put that bitch into place.

An ideology that can't defend itself isn't an ideology, just a wet dream. Different people will always be more advantaged by different systems and they will always try to change it. Fact is the pinnacle of individualism is destroying individualism for your own gain and ruining the collective good of society when a certain form of collectivism is better for yourself.

Maybe the useful idiot foot soldiers actually believe all the stupid misrepresentative bullshit things that Newman is saying but the people who architected that strategy did so specifically to PREVENT the establishment of consensus. Jordan Peterson is a mouse running through a course they designed, a course nominally labeled as "let's talk these things through and participate in good faith and we'll eventually reach consensus" but which is in reality just loops back on itself infinitely in an unending loop of deliberate misunderstanding, word twisting, and intentional provocation that is designed to just wear you out and make you stop trying and submit to the feminists. The way that Cathy Newman has been taught to structure her arguments, they could have sat there for weeks and gotten literally no closer to any kind of mutual understanding.

This is why the Right (men) fails over and over again to deal with this shit, because they go in thinking "I'll just be honest and straightforward and we'll eventually understand each other :)" and the Left (women [ / Jews]) just take them for a fucking ride 100 out of 100 times and keep them wrapped up in word game and bullshit while they proceed full speed with their plans anyway. Remember that Hitler quote about arguing with the Jew where after laboriously deconstructing every augment the Jew presents the Jew just comes back the next day and says "I don't remember you ever proving me wrong lol :)"? It's the same thing. Alinsky is the same thing. They are not participating in good faith, no amount of calm collected rational Jordan Peterson is ever going to make a dent in these people's "thinking".

He's sargoy tier. Put's out very basic and non-offensive stances to maximise profit.

>a mouse running through a course they designed

So you're saying women are manipulative and unable to learn?
Women should give up their positions just because of reason is what you're saying?