Every single wall prototype can be crossed either using a car hydraulic jack...

Every single wall prototype can be crossed either using a car hydraulic jack, or just a rope with a rock tied at one end.

Not that anyone cares, but for 20 billion, I was expecting land mines, robot machine guns, lasers, death rays and so on.

I am very disapointed

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>he thinks he can jack up a fucking wall
>he thinks he can climb a wall with a fucking rock and a rope that US special forces can't climb with equipment specifically meant for climbing a wall
>Mexican intellectuals

Yeah, right.

Better have that UFO ready.

Weird, the report results I read said even though military members including marines tried to get over the wall prototypes with blow torches, Jack hammers, ropes, and climbing systems. Every single attempt failed and only one marine was able to hook a wall. But they couldn't climb over it because it was a exhausting 40 feet without hand holds. You'll never get in Paco.

>I don't understand how budget works
The cost of concrete alone for the length of the wall comes out to around $24 billion. Getting it done for $20B is a good fucking deal as it is.

Are you just going to toss the rock 30 feet into the air? Remember the rock needs to be at least your body weight for this trick to work

build a mobile tower -> throw boulder+rope

nvm
plank+rope+boulder on your original side+tower

What if they use a trebuchet to launch a 200lb rock over the all with rope attached? Can Mexicans build trebuchets?

desu if you're going to build a tower undetected so that you can toss a boulder over a wall undetected and then climb the wall undetected then you might as well just apply for citizenship.

>build a mobile tower

Then just jump over the wall. Fuck throwing the rocks and shit.

the US special forces just spent three weeks testing the prototypes and they said they couldn't find a way to overcome it

Also,
>build a mobile tower
At that point you're already smarter and more industrious than 95% of your home country. Stay home and build shit.

No one thinks the wall will be impossible to cross, especially for those with the resources and enough desperation.
The wall is there so its harder than snipping a few wires, hugely reducing the volume of people who get over, and making them more easy to catch as they will need more equipment.

If they have time and resources to build a mobile or trebuchet and successfully scale the wall, they can stay. Consider it an IQ test.

siege towers since thousands of years ago...

>being this stupid

Instead of throwing a Mexican - sized rock with a rope attached to climb up and over why not just throw a Mexican with a rope attached so when they get over the top you can lower them to the ground

I mean I'm just spitballing here

If they only use a 200 pound rock then they won't be able to bring their women with them

DRUMPF BTFO

LOL for some reason i read this post in Homer Simpsons voice. Anyway, if you cant get over a basic 40 ft wall then you are a failure of a soldier. The wall design was an enormously stupid waste of cement and money. Who the fuck cant get over a simple flat vertical wall?? Its not rocket science. This money should have been invested in low tech survielence equipment such as temprature sesing survelience and the like. It probably would have costed alot less. What kind of dim wit would put up a simple flat technologiless wall when cement costs so much?

>Not that anyone cares
Then why did you make this thread?

Don't think I said that siege towers don't exist you spastic nigger.
I said if you're going to sit there, build one and then roll it up to the wall so that you can toss a fucking boulder over it and climb said all all entirely undetected then you might as well apply for citizenship because at that point you're a fucking superhuman anyway.

That's what I'm saying.

which wall did they choose to build?

>steal firetruck
>extend ladder
>tie firehose to ladder
>repel down

Seems like a good business opportunity

actually, the boulder can be on your side instead

they don't have rattle snakes in africa or asia where elephants live...

Then you should start doing that when the wall is built and see how it goes.
Are you black?

Then how are you going to tie a rope to it

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Walls work. Your thinking about this all wrong. You just hiked x miles through desert. Your hot, thirsty. And now your faced with the wall. Most will turn around and go home. Many will stop making the journey in the first place. For a time. A % of smart beaners will in fact figure out a bypass route. But the majority of them will stay on their side of the wall. When they are stuck they may finally decide to clean their room.

>all you have to do is build a siege tower out of rocks and tumbleweed and lead a daring raid on a 40ft high smooth stone castle wall with a 5 foot razorwire outward-facing shelf at the top and motion sensors under it in the dead of night without satellites or roaming guards seeing you do it and literally murdering you with assault rifles

It’s going to be a meme wall. It’s there to appease s large sect of Trump voters. Namely hillbillies and rednecks who lack the education and intelligence to understand the very fact the won’t stop anything.

If you can get past the wall by throwing a rock that can support your weight 40 feet up, you deserve to be in US, legally or not.

do you know the conditions these people are in when they cross with coyotes
often malnurished, dehydrated, and either freezing to death or getting beaten by the sun depending on time and location of the crossing

boulder on siege tower side and rope at 2.3x length

>Namely hillbillies and rednecks who lack the education and intelligence to understand the very fact the won’t stop anything.
Why do you say that, what is your argument that a wall won't work. It worked in Israel, it worked in Spain, it worked in Hungary. What makes you think it will not work?
Can you guess when Hungary finished their fence? Just a fence, not even a wall.

Are you black?

The boulder is on our side of the wall, you just said.
How then do you get the boulder onto the other side of the wall so that you can get over the wall without already being on the other side of the wall?

mexican on parapet with anzio 20 rifle out ranges your assault rifle

how about blue collar workers or people who have actually been to mexico? This is the final solution to fix both sides of the wall and just because you watched an episode of southpark doesn't make you an expert on the issues of border states and mexico

umm sweetie, throwing stones in a glass house much?

this kills the mexican

use tower and drop down with rope (boulder on your side may work

it's so the mexicans can move the tower and boulder separately

> muh rock
If every border tresspasser would be as retarded, that wall would be impenetrable.

A wall makes securing the border easier even if the next president is a spic that cuts border patrol funding. No safe will stop a determined thief, it's about deterrence and stopping the majority of attempts

are you saying they will climb to the top, build a parapet, then snipe incoming border guards with a $10,000 rifle made in the country they are trying to sneak into?

or are you saying that they will build an even higher wall on their side, complete with parapets, and fire on guards before even attempting to cross?

or do you just not know what a parapet is

Why do you need a boulder if you've just gotten onto the side of the wall you want to be on without it using the magic tower?

Good, then just stay on that side amigo.

You are pretty dumb. It's like abstract thinking is not your forte.

The "WALL" will be equipped with men armed ready to gun down any browngoloid they see.

These men will do it, literally, for free, just to kill mexicans or something.
Also, they can freely trade the organs of whoever they catch.

trump woll build the wall so the next president can take credit for ending larger scale illegal immigration

>Firetruck
>Extend ladder
Good luck finding a ladder truck in Mexico All the buildings top out at two stories. More likely to find a tank truck because they dont have hydrants and water infrastructure.

wonderful enterprising capitalists

Believing in Jewish propaganda, they'll say anything to the stupid goyim to get their wall approved since they'll be building it for $20billion shekels.

Relatively few illegals cross the border in the first place, and a wall is a pretty poor solution to stop people from crossing (in addition to illegal crossings at the borders generally decreasing anyways).

The wall is a retarded waste of money that is just used to excite the lowest common denominator of people who don't actually understand immigration politics.

fpbp

> malnurished
Really?

So first you have to steal a firetruck, which can be spotted with ease from drones. Since you only steal one firetruck, there is only one passage over the wall. How many people do you want to get over the wall with that firetruck? Only yourself? How many firetrucks are there in Mexico? Ok so let's say 100 people? Now, you are 100 people and a firetruck, really fucking easy to spot for ICE.
Compare that with no wall, where the 100 people can run across the border at different times and various locations.

How fucking dumb can one be, to think a wall won't work?

Man the mexishit shills are with full force this days, anyways.

>everysingle wall can be crossed using a car hydraulic jack
Didn't know these went up 30-40 feet high in the air, are mexican car hydraulic jacks rocket powered?

>just a rope with a rock tied in the end
Did you actually see that these walls have anti climbing mechanics for this purpose, right?
There'll be guards and sensors ad well, not to count it will probably be a double wall.

>It won't even stop any!
Except it does stop plenty of them.
Pic very related.
Hell you dont even have to go all the way there to see the success of border protection, just look at how a border wall helped drastically reduce border crossings in San Diego

cbp.gov/border-security/along-us-borders/border-patrol-sectors/san-diego-sector-california

>"B-but it doesn't stops 100% of them, b-btfo"
Yeah you faggot nobody said it will completely stop everysingle one from crossing, but it'll greatly reduce it and make the numbers more manageable for agents

Also there isn't going to be a simple, single wall but additional fences, sensors, cameras, border agents so it'll become pretty challenging to cross

>"b-but muh ladders"
The wall is gonna be 30-40 feet tall, do illegals now have easy access to firetrucks? Lmao, not to count not many can simultaneously climb the same ladder and the fact that there are anti-climb mechanisms in the prototype walls, so it makes it even harder and also add some border agents who are gonna appear there because they got notified via sensors,cameras or drones

>"b-but muh tunnels"

Yeah el chapo could afford to have a tunnel built, but remember he's one of the most richest and powerful drug lords, how do you expect a few poor rural peasants to pay for that?
Not to count any structure needs to have a deep foundation which makes it even harder.
Add a frw seismic sensors in the area and any attempt at digging would instantly notify border agents.

You're absolutely right but at least he's not namefagging like you. Kys

DESU US forces are a lot retarded.

>The wall is a retarded waste of money that is just used to excite the lowest common denominator of people who don't actually understand immigration politics.

timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-trump-right-about-building-wall-great-success-in-israel/
"“President Trump is right. I built a wall along Israel’s southern border. It stopped all illegal immigration. Great success. Great idea,” Netanyahu wrote in English on Twitter, Trump’s preferred method of communication. The prime minister ended his tweet with emojis of the Israeli and American flags."

People underestimate Mexican ingenuity, and the amount of free time they have. Besides if they can't make it through the southern boarder, they'll just come in through Canada with Trudeaus blessing.

Why do you lie?

few hundred thousand less each year to round up
yes, depending on who is doing the crossing they can be assholes to those they are trafficking across

> yes, depending on who is doing the crossing they can be assholes to those they are trafficking across
So they travel for what like a month?

Why you wanna cross the wall anyway?

They're smarter than Mexicans which is all that's needed.

%100 this can confirm.

So what you're saying is we should tear down the israel/palestine wall and force israel to enact open borders policy?

sometimes people are held up before the crossing at the coyotes house for days, sometimes weeks according to some stories

Looks like we need better Special Forces. We just admitted they cant climb high walls.

Good job revealing capabilities you stupid fucking niggers.

It's sad that you quickly believe in propaganda by the very same media you distrust.

> according to some stories
So the problem is no the wall.

>What is population density
>What is distance
>What is geography

Comparing Israeli or Hungarian border walls is a huge false equivalency. They're small enough that it's actually economical to be able to have people monitor the walls.

The Mexican/US border is 6 times larger than the Hungarian border, and also much more isolated, which jacks up the price of repairs and in-person surveillance. It is more economical to just have electronic monitoring, and then dispatch people to the specific crossing, rather than spending billions more on a physical barrier (which will still need the electronic monitoring because it's actually economically impossible to have frequent personnel-manned sections). This is all not taking into account that the wall is redundant since Mexican border crossings have been steadily decreasing anyways, and the majority of illegal immigrants don't even cross the border, they stay on expired visas.

The border wall is just dick-waving for retards who don't understand border security logistics.

It's fake news, they could breach it if they wanted to. (((They))) just want it approved since (((theyll))) be building it, and the gullible goyim fall for anything as usual.

Then why don't you call in some mexicans and they can show how it is done? I'm sure CNN or another news network will be happy to air it and I'm sure, since the test walls are still up, they the U.S will let you test it.

I've seen countless videos of people trafficking drugs across the border and over the wall
Also more than 400,000 people were apprehended illegally crossing the border in 2016 alone. This doesn't even account for the people who actually made it across.

it's both
the wall makes the better managed border crossings either slow or stop and massively increases the chance of detection before making it through regardless if they can even manage to cross the thing

>Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution
>The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against invasion

You don't care because you don't live in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, or California. If you visit these states though, you would know they've been asking the federal government to complete the wall for decades.

You both sound fucking retarded

because we don't already patrol many areas of the border and cant put sensors in an object anchored into the ground?

>Israeli-Palistinian border; 440 miles long, easy terrain, close to population = easy to monitor
>Mexican-US border; 1933 miles long, middle of buttfuck nowhere in shit conditions

They are not comparable you retards

(you) because you're so desperate.

We got the real expert here guyz. Lets believe this random loser over Trump

They'll probably just deploy drones to patrol it.

>the USA doesn't have the resources necessary to monitor a straight line for obvious breaches being made in a wall
(you) for you too.

That's the point, just make more sensors.

Building a wall is just a multi-billion dollar money sink that will suck up infrastructure resources, because a wall doesn't catch people, the sensors do.

The wall will be breached eventually. The key is to actively patrol the border. Sensors, cameras, drones, will make it almost impenetrable.

I forgot that castles have walls to catch invaders rather than repel them.
How stupid are you?

>This.
Look at their country it is a virtual wonderland of ingenuity and precision.

Why are you trying to be so much like the Christians you hate?

Thats exactly what Ben Fischbein was saying.

The deep state already tried to control the boarder with Facebook and sjw blogs... fail

How about a Xbox gold shooter tied to live guns on boarder... pay loot boxes to open up land mine or flame throwers...

You can do all of that without a fucking 20 billion+ wall
All the wall does is add additional cost when you inevitably need to repair damages to it. You're adding additonal sensors anyways to detect people from trying to get through the wall, so why bother with the wall in the first place?

Israel population 8.5 million
us population 323 million
I think we have the manpower to do it
but a wall will slow them down so the sensors can be responded to in time
a wall stops people so you don't have to catch them as well and will free rescources from tracking people down after hundreds of thousands get in per year.

Gullible goy who has his head stuck up his own ass, it's only a matter of time.

>the USA can watch every single point of the 1933 mile long stretch which you just said they couldn't do with a wall, without one
>meanwhile there's no deterrent to just walking right past the open space separating the two countries
For real how cripplingly fucking retarded are you? Holy shit.

I was expecting this.

>Comparing a castle wall of a couple hundred feet easily monitored by a single person to an almost 2k mile wall in a mostly uninhabited wasteland

Stop drinking paint thinner