How do you go from this

How do you go from this.

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Prusshits, Auscucks, and Ruslaves happened

By stealing the land from Lithuanians after they stole it from Mongols after Mongols stole it from Russians. It was always rightful Russian clay.

Ukraine is rightful Russian clay by the way, if I didn't make that clear enough in my last post.

Same as this, I guess

How do you go from this

To this: ?

Literally Jews and the Vatican
Learn from your mistakes Poland
Or you'll be Cockholeland one day

the eternal swede
kek

Sweden has very little to do with the dissolution of the PLC. In fact, the dissolution has a lot to do with internal policies, or more specifically, the lack of internal policies. Aristocrats had a ridiculous amount of rights and could basically stop the parliament from passing laws or doing anything. Reforms were needed and they were all delayed or stopped completely because of the aristocrats. The PLC never became an absolute monarchy, that's why it couldn't compete with more centralised states. Basically killed by democracy and a squabbling aristocratic class that needed purging.

I wonder...

>The most prosperous period for Polish Jews began following this new influx of Jews with the reign of Sigismund I the Old (1506–1548), who protected the Jews in his realm.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Poland#Center_of_the_Jewish_world:_1505–72

Yeah Poles basically brought all the Jews here and gave them rights.

...

No allies.

Still too much

I agree, Danzig and a few of the Prussian built cities need to go back to Germany.

Literally killed by muh rights

Why the fuck is my flag Swedish when I am in Lithuania?

>warzone
Oh wow, you sure showed me.

multiculturalism.

Which your people promoted.
One strong king needed to stamp the fuck out of all the aristocrats around 1600 and make them all into his bitch and kill the ones that didn't behave.

We let in jews prosecuted all around Europe, we let in Germans and Czechs running from religious wars they had, we let in Prussians genocided and germanized by the teutons we let in Russians, Swedes, Tatars, Dutch, Italians and basically everyone who was oppressed. People thought it was right thing to do. Turned out all of those groups had different interests, and started infighting and weakening our colectivity. Poland paid the price and learned a lesson. Now western world is in similar situation, would they learn from our mistakes or go down the PLC route?

Nothing belongs to the Germans. It's a mutt mongrel of Europe. Ancient Slavic land go as far as to Liechtenstein.

>Prussian built cities
Which cities are you talking about?

All the architecture and in other nearby cities is German. Do you deny this?

Jews.

Your image contradicts you.

>central european powers were jelly for common wealth growth, they decided to rekt before it would get out of hand

Chmielnicki and his rebellion. Basicly your ungrateful ancestors.

It doesn't. Those lands were Polish for longer than Germany exists.

>Kievan Rus
>Get's MONGOL'd
>Ruthenian duke sells his lands to Poland, before the rest is conquered by Mongols
>Mongol lands are conwured by Lithuanians
>Fast forward to XVII century
>At this point Ukraine belongs to the Commonwealth, and Ruthenian nobility is fully polonised
>Ukraine is populated by Cossaks - crazy rednecks who descend from Polish/Russian runaway bandits
>Poland forms a "register" of Cossaks - a list of them who are taken to fight against Ottomans and get money from it
>Because Poland had lately peaceful relations with Ottomans, and because nobles didn't like king having powerful army, Cossack register must be reduced
>Cossacks are mad, because they won't get money
>In 1648 they rebel, led by Bohdan Kmielnitsky, who leads the rebellion, because he's mad he got cucked by a Polish noble
>Rebellion is succesfull at start, Cossacks even reach Zamosc
>After defeat at Berestechko in 1651, Cossacks sign a truce
>In 1654, Khmielnitsky gets a wonderful idea
>Let's ask tsar of Russia for help, what bad could happen
>Russians take part of Polish Ukraine, supressing Cossaks even more than Poles
>Fast forward to 1768
>Russian agents provoke another Cossack uprising in the dying Commonwealth, Koliyivshchyna
>Cossacks take the bait, go around slaughtering civilians (not the last time in history), eventually get btfo by Poles and Russians
>Fast forward to 1918
>At this point Ukrainians and Poles live under German and Austrian occupation
>Austrians support the birth of Ukrainian nationalism, wanting easy rule over equal numbers of Poles and Ukrainians
>But this is 1918, countries get their independence
>Poles and Ukrainians fight for Lviv, a city with Polish majority
>Ukrainian elite Sich riflemen get defeated by Polish underage students
>But then Bolsheviks arrive
>Ukrainians under Petlura side with Poles against communist threat
>After Polish-Bolshevik war tho, Ukraine loses independence
tbc

>Ukrainians in interwar Poland don't have it that bad, but they love to complain
>Meanwhile in Soviet Russia, Ukrainians can't complain
>Not because they're fine tho, their either dead from Holodomor, killed by Cheka/NKVD, or alive, but not allowed to talk
>1939 happens
>Polish Ukrainians, thinking how horrible was inability to learn Ukrainian at school, welcome Soviets as liberators
>1941 happens
>After learning that Soviets are not so great authorities, Polish Ukrainians welcome Nazi Germans as liberators
>At first Germans don't give a shit what Ukrainians think, but soon, they find in them a good material for cannon fodder
>They support Ukrainian partisans against hostile Poles
>In 1943 Ukrainian organisations OUN and UPA organise the ethnic cleansing of Vohlynia region
>Ukrainians rape, drown, burn alive, quarter, behead tens of thousands Polish women and children
>Polish resistance answers
>There is an all-out war between Polish and Ukrainian partisans
>Eternal kraut laughs in the distance
>But then the Soviets arrived
>They destroy everyone - Nazi Germans, Polish partisans and Ukrainian partisans
>After Yalta negotians, all of Polish Vohlynia gets in Soviet hands
>Soviets don't want to deal with Ukrainian genocidal autism, so together with communist Poles, they deport thousands Ukrainans to western Polish lands, former German, and Polonise them during so called "Action Vistula"
>Ukrainians love to cry about it to this day
>1991 happens
>Gorbachev loves Ukrainians so much grants them independence and gives them a present in form of Crimea peninsula
>Not telling more because of 25 year rule

>Literally more butthurt about Poland than I am about Britbongs

ok

>KHOKHOLED
DAS RITE

Germany goes back to the holy roman empire. Somehow claiming it's not German clay because 'Germany' didn't exist is retarded. Germany existed, but it wasn't centralised.
You didn't do shit to get Ukrainian clay, you inherited it from Lithuania.

>>Ukrainians in interwar Poland don't have it that bad, but they love to complain
False.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacification_of_Ukrainians_in_Eastern_Galicia

filthy ukrainian scum, go and die from starvation subhuman shit

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonization#Polonization_in_Eastern_Borderlands_(Kresy)

"The Pacification of Ukrainians was the punitive action by police and military of the Second Polish Republic against the Ukrainian minority in Poland (in Eastern Galicia — against the Ukrainian majority) in September–November 1930
> in response to a wave of more than 2,200 acts of sabotage against Polish property in the region."

Oh you forgot about this? Hohols brought it upon themselves by being terrorists.

>November 1930 in response to a wave of more than 2,200 acts of sabotage against Polish property in the region

>Compared to the (larger) Ukrainian minority living in Poland, Belarusians were much less politically aware and active. Nevertheless, according to Belarusian historians, the policies by the Polish government against the population of West Belarus increasingly provoked protests[63] and armed resistance. In the 1920s, Belarusian partisan units arose in many areas of West Belarus, mostly unorganized but sometimes led by activists of Belarusian left wing parties.[63] In the spring of 1922, several thousands Belarusian partisans issued a demand to the Polish government to stop the violence, to liberate political prisoners and to grant autonomy to West Belarus.[63] Protests were held in various regions of West Belarus until mid 1930s.
See, even apathetic, low-energy Belarusians couldn't take it anymore. And seriously it is so difficult to provoke them, they can take a lot of shit. But even that was too much for them.

Do you know what happened after that and how is it called in the Ukraine?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ruin_(Ukrainian_history)

Nothing to be happy of Taras.

>German Empire vs. Modern Germany
>Egyptian New Kingdom vs. Modern Egypt
>Ottoman Empire vs. Modern Turkey
>Soviet Union vs. Modern Russia
>British Empire vs. Modern UK
>Spanish Empire vs. Modern Spain
>Portugese Empire vs. Modern Portugal
>Austro-Hungary vs. Modern Austria and Hungary
>Roman Empire vs. Modern Italy
>Persian Empire vs. Modern Iran
>Mongol Empire vs. Modern Mongolia

Empires rise and fall, what's your point?

Yeah, Ukrainians did it just because. It has nothing to do with being oppressed.

>Germany goes back to the holy roman empire. Somehow claiming it's not German clay because 'Germany' didn't exist is retarded. Germany existed, but it wasn't centralised.
So? HRE didn't own core Polish lands.

Look at your country Vadym
youtube.com/watch?v=6ZIYUTfuA7g

>what is Pomerania

>"The largest Belarusian political organization, the Belarusian Peasants' and Workers' Union (or, the Hramada), which demanded a stop to the polonization and autonomy for West Belarus, grew more radicalized by the time. It received logistical help from the Soviet Union, and financial aid from the Comintern. By 1927 Hramada was controlled entirely by agents from Moscow."

Gee I wonder why they were anti-polish. Nothing to do with being commies right?

If it was so bad why didn't they just go to Russia, your friend...o wait, the whole starvation problem

I said core.

>"Starting in the 12th century, Pomerania was settled with Germans in a process termed Ostsiedlung, that affected all medieval East Central and Eastern Europe. Except for the Pomerelian Kashubians and the Slovincians, the Wends were assimilated. Most towns and villages date back to this period."

Germans did what shitskins are doing in Europe right now. Conquest by outbreeding the locals.

Polish aristocracy simply didn't want a western-type bureaucratic absolutism and they reached an inner agreement with the king too late, check up Constitution of 1791. They got it nevertheless, but at least a spirit of autonomy has survived and we're not ruled by the alliance of universities, journalists and public officers, like Westerners

this guy gets it

Sure, so mutt-mongrel that it is the world's go-to example when it comes to extreme nationalism.

>Ancient Slavic land go as far as to Liechtenstein

And Germans have settled as far east as the Volga and as far south-east as Bulgaria. We can play that shit game of who was where first and is therefore entitled to live there too. We were happy to fight wars and commit genocide over it, incase you don't remember, only we primarily didn't historically because eastern Europe was fucking empty and the local feudal lords invited us over because they thought it would be nice if their country actually had some people in it they could rule over.

I'm sorry sweety, but it was your people that tried to falsify history to benefit you and shit on us.

>BUT MUH RUSSIA
Nice argument. How do russian crimes justify yours?

So why did they decide to side with commies of all people, if everything was so great for them?
Doesn't it bother you poles, that in WW2 most Ukrainians, Belarusians, Lithuanians sided either with nazis, commies or just were against everyone, but not with poles???
Geee, I wonder why is that???

>try to civilize rural ukrainians who have never done anything of value since forever
>hohol intelligenstia didn't exist at all
>bring hohols into schools, teach them all the basics, including a proper language instead of swamp russian
>invest in galicia and vohlynia giving hohols proper jobs instead of farming and cattle ranching as that is what they did for centuries, nothing else
>they repay you with destroying your property, murdering officials et cetera, stuff niggers often do nowdays.

Nice undefendable borders you fucking loser.

t. 15% turkish

>try to erase ukrainian identity
>they resist

I don't know where you pulled that thing from, but I'll agree it's as retarded as your claims to modern german territory.

Democracy is hardly democracy when the voting power is wielded by a few fruity elites

>ukrainian identity
you mean the one invented by austrians in XIX century?

>I don't know where you pulled that thing from
German mindset in 18th-20th century. Basically entire Central Europe was populated by Germanics, therfore Germans and Slavs crawled out from swamps or even came from Ural and stole Germanic noble lands.
What is that even? Ukraine means "borderland"

Your country was not so different from Ukraine before Germany started throwing free money at you.

It is simply not true. SOME of them sided with nazis, commies etc. Many Belarussians, Ukrainians, Lithuanians joined Polish army, and later partizans.

>Ukraine means "borderland"
It mean "land" or "country".
I'm glad you still eating russian propaganda, polak.

>Your country was not so different from Ukraine before Germany started throwing free money at you.
False. EU funds are 2% of Polish GDP. And it's Germany that benefits from Poland in EU. It's basically their Mitteleuropa project done peacefuly

Zo the colonies made by Baltgerms is polish work now ?

Show us your real flag. You're already outed yourself as a retard.

>Cossacks were a warrior class in eastern Poland, consisting mostly out of Ruthenians, followed by Poles and Lithuanians, but also Scots, Dutch and Russians (migrants in Poland).
Chmielnicki was a Polish noble (from his fathers side) and a hetman, he went to Ukraine*, Cossackified himself and became a rebel.
Many people that traveled to the Dzikie Pola (Wild Fields) were outcasts or bandits from all over the PLC running away form the law because that part of Poland was the least settled and patrolled due to constant Tatar raids.

Ukraina: U+kraina - U kresu krainy - U krańcu krainy Korony Królestwa Polskiego, Rzeczypospolitej Obojga Narodów.
Ukraine: At+borderland - At the borderland of the Crown of the Kingdom of Poland, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

>Let me, a meme flag user, tell you about the meaning of words in your language.

Show your flag Hans.

>>try to civilize rural ukrainians who have never done anything of value since forever
Why do you so arrogantly believe that you had to "civilize" us? We had our own state before you, our own faith, our own culture/language. We wanted independence or at least an autonomy with the right for self-determination/identity. But you just didn't care what Ukrainian "bydlo" wanted, you continued to polonize and enforce Catholic faith.
>hohol intelligenstia didn't exist at all
Oh, I wonder why. Maybe we didn't have such freedom? Only polonized intelligentsia was allowed to exist.
>>bring hohols into schools, teach them all the basics, including a proper language instead of swamp russian
See, what kind of arrogance is that? Our language is "swamp russian", yours is "superior", "proper", "civilized". Fuck you.
>>invest in galicia and vohlynia giving hohols proper jobs instead of farming and cattle ranching as that is what they did for centuries, nothing else
More like let the kikes exploit us.

>Baltgerms
No such thing. Germans in Baltic countries became Baltic people.

>We had our own state before you
when exactly was that?

>>>invest in galicia and vohlynia giving hohols proper jobs instead of farming and cattle ranching as that is what they did for centuries, nothing else
>More like let the kikes exploit us.
And colonize our cities with ethnic poles. So rural Ukrainians stayed rural because of you.

If Ukrainians weren't such little cunts, you would live in a good country now.

You're flocking to Poland anyway.

>who are ruthenians

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthenians

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchy_of_Lithuania#Etymology
>The Statutes of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania have the complete name of the state as the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Ruthenia and Samogitia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossack_Hetmanate#Name
>The founder of the Hetmanate, Bohdan Khmelnytsky, declared himself as the ruler of the Ruthenian state (or Rus state) to the Polish representative Adam Kysil in February 1649.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Ruthenia

>Many Belarussians, Ukrainians, Lithuanians joined Polish army, and later partizans.
Very few. Most didn't.

>who are ruthenians
Not Ukrainians.

You have absolutely nothing to do with ruthenians.
Ruthenians mixed heavily with tatars, turks, jews, poles, russians etc. Thus came upon a first hohols - literal 52% mutts of Europe.
>If you were ruthenians then why not call yourself ruthenians instead of ukrainians?

Why are you so retarded?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus'
Ukrainians are descendants of Ruthenians. Ruthenians are descendant of Rus' people(inhabitants of Rus').
Or did we just fall from the sky according to you?

none of those are Ukrainian

Roman Dmowski:
"If Poland didn't had so many jews, it would never be patritioned"
"Hitlerians (Hitlerowcy aka Germans) understand that if they want to construct Germany on national bases, they must destroy jewish position in they society"

fast translation, sorry for grammary

>Ukraine
>Kievan Rus
AHHAHAHHAHA

MOVE TO PHASE 2

The Polish Frog and the Jewish Scorpion

Holy fuck, it's always fun to discover national/regional/racial/ethnic rivalries where you don't understand why people are angry, but can see that whatever the reason is, it's been reason enough for people to go out of their way and create graphics brutally depicting their contempt.

Graphic enough for you?

Jesus, what the hell is this?

Prussians were Christianized Balts. Prussia as country existed in the same time as Holy Roman Empire, after it fallen they taken controll over independence states that were left , leaving around 200 Baltic sounding words in your langueage.

Volhynian massacre, even retreating German soldiers were shocked at brutality of Ukrainians. They were often leaving weapons for Polish civilians so they could defend themselves.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

Russians did worse.

kek
dirty xoxols

Believe it or not but ukrainians are building their national identity upon what these people did. Recently they passed a law stating that criticising OUN/UPA (organisations responsible for the massacre) is illegal and will land you in prison. The leader of UPA is for them what, I don't know, Bismarck is for you.
Get a hold of this shit:
youtube.com/watch?v=v6wlrvMY0UA

>Blaming Jews
>Not blaming Germans and Russians who actually tore apart the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth

Another one.
Even after they started murdering poles, we tried cooperating with them in effort to combat both germans and soviets. This is how they often responded, violeting the ancient and sacred custom of not harming emissaries.
youtu.be/BbdPNa0uuCc?t=2m4s

holy shit. Why did Ukrainians treat Polacks with such barbarity? What caused such hatred?