When did you finally grow up and realize that identity politics are a cancer?
a neoliberal cancer used to split the working class, that feminism is a bourgouise tool to keep the current billionaire banker jews in power by forcing poor white women to see poor working class men as their enemies?
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No one cares what they think just like with Peterson cultists. You guys are some of the most ignorant niggers I ever seen.
Honestly, I would have gone ahead and gone nazbol a long time ago if not out of spite. I'm really fucking tired at this point, if you want to cut a deal I would rather put an end to this.
There is insane identity politics, and there is common sense. To identify with your own people and want to preserve your group is not identity politics. Its called not being a cuck. Maybe this is where americans and europeans clash
>goes on a tirade against identity politics
>instantly starts to go on about class and the bourgouise
Do you even know what any of those things are?
This is my thread
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Properly red pilled recently thanks to peterson and others. I wasn't red pilled by a specific ideology either but by a few that have been grouped together by the left wing identty politics as alt right. In my opinion a lot of them are nowhere near which is why I have now abandoned the left in favour of pure facts and truth which I believe will be found more centrally. I no longer believe in any movement that collectivises people such as blacklivesmatter, metoo or feminism past the 2nd wave because i dont trust the people in them
>Guys I know you're being attacked as members of a collective even though you don't identify as such, but don't ally together that just proves them right.
No, we should just stay individuals against a collective that targets us for things we don't choose right?
Individuals don't make an army.
Actually it is identity politics but you are too low IQ and cucked to admit it.
There is nothing wrong with working in your favor which is exactly what identity politics are
>I have now abandoned the left in favour of pure facts and truth
A good start
>which I believe will be found more centrally
The facts and truth are going to rip you a new arsehole. They're not gentle. But you'll find that out on your own, assuming you stay the course.
Actually by caring about yourself you realized that there is a gain to working together with others who have similar goals.
The communist cucks are the collectivist faggots with no mind or identity of their own.
Life and nature arent gentle either but they train us to get better, to always improve. You can only do that if you put in the effort, are willing to and if you can challenge yourself, but above all you need to choose to do these things. The left nowadays is heading towards communism which strips choices away from people. It tells people how they should think, what they should think and what they should do with authority. If you are against tyranny its an easy choice
Apply your philosophy of pure facts and truth to tyranny. Ultimately, nature is a fascist.
This doesn't mean it is inevitable that you will become one, but riding that tiger will almost certainly take you far faaaar away from anything we would call centrist in the modern sense.
One day people will grow up and realize the center doesn't exist.
Nature cannot be facist because facism is an ideology but i understand that you see patterns in nature that appear facist such as hiving behaviour in insects that have a queen. but i look for reasons behind things so i do believe nature has way more to teach us. this is why i like jordan petersons way of critically thinking. he can explain human behaviour from the point of view of someone observing natures. this is important to me because i think the source of pronblems in society are often overlooked in favour of peoples "feelings" on how to solve them. the one downside of equal opportunity is that everyone is given a voice, even those who know very little about these things
If you have 2 opposing points by definition the centre exists, but i get your point. i believe that nature is about balance so when im trying to find the centre what im really saying is that i wish to approach arguments as if they were debates rather than a prosecutor and defendant
>Nature cannot be facist because facism is an ideology
The patterns are often the same. For example some ideology and something like an organism's reproduction strategy can be looked at to be functionaly the same thing. Certain fundamental truths about the world also lead to certain inescapable conclusions.
I won't do your thinking for you, but you do sound like your current thinking is still very much "in the box". The things you don't like or that make you uncomfortable are where the real gems lie. Also, the truth won't make you happy. This might be your last chance to turn back. Consider it.
>Certain fundamental truths about the world also lead to certain inescapable conclusions
Almost like some ideologies follow a natural path, a prescription to natural processes.
GL debating this low-ed dweeb.
I think we are actually agreeing here. Im saying that nature is all things because all things are part of nature. so nature has facist qualities, cannabilism, nuturing properties and hierachys. the lessons we learn from them are important though because we are animals too and behave as such. i am much more concerned now with people constantly trying to tell you how things are which causes people not to look at things for themselves. i would argue that if ithis mqy be how you see my style of thinking but from my point of view its about hearing as many ideas as possible no matter what they are so i can make up my own mind
>kill all humans
>kill no humans
Center would be "kill some humans".
t, sargons liberalist
Also i believe that hapiness is relative and therefore should never be the end goal because unhapiness will tend to win then. the goal for me is to be content which i believe is different because it is about being comfortable with what you have and quells addictive behaviour
>i would argue that if ithis mqy be how you see my style of thinking but from my point of view its about hearing as many ideas as possible no matter what they are so i can make up my own mind
That's fine. I encourage it in fact. Just don't fall into the trap of argument to moderation. Sometimes things ARE correct and incorrect, and there is no middle ground.
True which is why we go to war some times. killing no humans would lead to overpopulation, killing all humans leads to extinction. either way not good
>*throw self from building*
>GRAVITY IS A SPOOOOOooooooo....
>SPLAT
>Also i believe that hapiness is relative
You won't say that when you're considering suicide at the near futility of the task you have found yourself bundled with. When I say the truth won't make you happy and to consider going to be an ignorant, but content normalfag I really really do mean it.
As long as you always enter a conversation believing that the other person has something to offer i dont see the problem (like this one as an example). i take issue with those who take stands against free speech and who make assumptions before a discussion has begun. i will always be willing to talk to anyone as long as they remain respectful. i will do the same no matter how disgusting their point of view and then i will make up my own mind. i will never say im right over someone else because then i may have to say im wrong but i have my own beliefs which i challenge when i can because i think its everyones duty to do so. not questioning your own beliefs leads to extremism and regret from what i have seen
Why should European countries be flooded with criminal niggers?
>mah wahkin clahss
Lol
HI SHILL
i understand and i sympathise with people who end up that way. but for me i understand the important of balance in everything in life and nature. im not going to say i will never be suicidal because i dont know what my state of mind will be in the future. but i will never put that much importance on these issues. when it comes down to it i choose myself and my family first. everything else is of less importance so there is a balance there too. but if happiness was the end goal then i know i would be much happer doing what ever i wanted all the time. problem is i cant get away with that because i have responsibilities
Please respond
Tell me why I shouldn't oppose criminal niggers destroying Europe, and I will denounce ''identity politics,'' whatever the fuck it even is.
Good answer. Remember that in the end you made that choice, for better or worse.
So, what do you want to know?
Leftists started becoming against identity politics when whites started playing too. What a coincidence!
>Herp derp fuck identity politics and keep the borders open
I am yet to be convinced that ''identity politics'' exist.
That's a label they are attaching to people who don't want their countries flooded with foreigners. That's literally all it is.
>heh, boyo, you do not want 6 million Somalis in your country? Stop playing identity politics, kiddo, that's collectivism!
This sort of labeling is designed to obscure the conversation.
Should your country be flooded with foreigners? No.
Should children be allowed to be ''transgender?'' No.
Should gay people be able to bully normal people? No.
Should jews be able to kick out all the white people from arts? No.
''Identity politics'' takes all those questions, compounds them and says that it's bad without addressing any one of those questions.
Identity politics are a healthy thing that EVERY single human practices to some extent. The thing is that leftists are trying to frame ONLY mass white identity movements and nations as bad.
I'll put in all caps for the retards on Sup Forums:
IF
YOU
CANNOT
SHARE
YOUR
BROTHER'S
CRIMES,
YOU
CANNOT
SHARE
HIS
ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
You have been left the family farm. You like it an look after it.
Your father is a criminal. You get sent to jail for his crime.
What's wrong with this picture?
>even socialists realize it
Too late you retard.
They have been playing it for like 40 years to get a foothold in the west.
They threw the white working class under the bus.
There is no turning back.
Us working class whites will never back commies ever. I work in my trade and every day I think about how much I hate commies and all of my mates are the same.
When the revolution comes it will not be from the left.
>working class
you lost me here comrade
go starve in a gutter you commie pig
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Made up scenario
Is make believe
Does not have answer
Only in your mind
Hypotheticals are endless trap
Whataboutism
It's called an analogy and it's a perfectly valid form of argument.
Now, what is wrong with it? Should you go to jail for your father's crime and is there anything wrong with liking and looking after the family farm?
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Gypsies arrived in Europe more or less 500 years ago and still haven't integrated, blacks arrived something like 60 years ago to western Europe and haven't integrated either.Tell them to stop playing identity politics.
What is the smiling banker meme called or where is it from
>neoliberal
>the working class
>bourgouise
>billionaire banker
>poor white women
>poor working class
>reddit.com/r/socialism
Goddamn, leftypol is so easy to spot. You're so annoying and stupid. It's no wonder your leaders always purge you after the revolution.
>plebbit
>socialism
Sage.
lefty/pol, piggy. Adapted from communist propaganda since that was ever a thing.