Why do they belong to Finland?

>an archipelago not part of either of the countries' landmass
>inhabited by more than 90% Swedes
>historically, culturally Swedish

I understand that the Russians took them in 1808 alongside Finland, but why didn't the finns fix the issue afterwards?

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Because fuck Sweden that’s why

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This is why.
We also dont have any need for it, as long as the finns dont oppress our people on it.

Have you seen the mainland? Åland is lucky not being part of current Sweden.

It's part of our archipelago. Besides I reckon the current deal is the best they can get.

The current situation meaning higher wages in Sweden? Setting aside the romanticised feeling of belonging to your fatherland, economically they would be better off under Sweden.

Åland has a much better deal right now than if they were part of either country. It doesn't make a big deal to Sweden, but the Finns are probably going to take care of it at some point. Åland is a burden on Finland right now. To get rid of the burden, they will either have to integrate it into Finland (this would be unpopular internationally and worsen Finland's relation to Sweden), or give the island to Sweden.

Why is it a burden on Finland?

>Hey Sven we just discovered some land between Finland and Sweden, what should we call it
>I dunno Bjorn how about... hmmm... It's a land...between Finland and Sweden... hmmm... I got it!
>What are we calling it?
>Aland

Only Swedish speakers are allowed to live on Åland. Most Finns aren't allowed to move there even if they wanted to. Most people on Åland are happier to see Swedish visitors than Finnish visitors. People on Åland are very different from mainland Finns too. They have different views and philosophies, they vote differently, they watch Swedish TV.

The Finns have fought for two hundred years to achieve national and linguistic sovereignty. While Swedish is a part of Finnish history (just as Finnish is a part of Swedish history), it's unreasonable to expect Finland to maintain Swedish as an official language in the 21st century, instead of reducing it to a minority language. They cannot do this without solving the Åland issue.

Sweden is so cucked baka

Å means river, but used to refer to various bodies of water, which made the name appropriate. By the way, Å is to A what Q is to O. It's not the same letter.

we will dump the scum to that island some day and give it to sweden

As far as I know all Finns speak Swedish and they have to study it in schools, so it seems pretty compulsory to me.

>Krim 2014
>Åland 20xx?
Rightful clay is rightful clay you know.

It's a Swedish ethnostate protected by the relatively uncucked government of Finland.

t. originally from Åland

Well, it's not true. While they do have to study it in school, most Finns don't speak Swedish.

I think it is the best if Åland remains as it is now, The Swedish state would destroy Åland if it were to annex it sadly..

>Finns speak Swedish
no
>they have to study it in schools
yes

I can somewhat understand simple Swedish, but I can't speak or write it nearly at all. This is simply because maybe once in every three years I come across a situation where I could use it.

I liked his story better

This is where you're wrong, Bogdan. In Finland, they are treated as a special autonomous entity within the country, they don't have to pay taxes, Finns can't buy property there and they are exempt from military service. Not to mention that they're wages are fairly high. All of that would be gone if they were to join Sweden.

Why did you post an image of a train

>Finland gives back Åland
>Sweden strips away all autonomy
>Åland gets flooded with refugees

A man can dream

Oh it's just apart of our new campaign here at SJ, Nothing to worry about m8.

No, this is why I want our island to remain Finnish clay. Although judging from your election two days ago it seems that not even Finland might remain uncucked..

Blå tåget at Gröna lund?

checked, you fellas know if /SWEG/ is up atm? Can't see it in the catalogue

We should ship all rapefugees to Åland. No more bättre folk after that.

gotland is next

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I knew that Finns couldn't move or buy property there but didn't know about the wages. How big are we talking about? Between Sweden and Finland? Higher than Sweden?

How is Swedish taught in Finland? What level are the pupils supposed to have after having finished the mandatory classes? I would love to study Swedish and Finns should consider this a blessing. We study French mostly, and I barely know anything after 8 years of French.

Yes we plan to extend it a little bit down to some town called Oświęcim or something, heard only chosen passangers can go there.

I have not seen it.

Explain that pic.

It'll probably be up soon. I would bake the bread but I'm going to work.

>10:13
>going to work

Is this the norm in the North? When I was in Bergen no shop would open before 9-10, meanwhile here shops open at 6-7 and work begins at 7-8.

I don't know if things have changed, but back then it was 2h/week onwards from junior high.

>muh shekels
Begone, kike. Money is a transient fabrication, but blood and soil are forever. Consigning the latter to eternal oblivion for a little more of the former is not only supremely idiotic, but it is also downright evil.

voimafantasiat
voima fanta siat
power fanta pigs
power fantasies

Definitely not the norm, I'm lucky in this sense, I suppose. But I sometimes work very late so I don't know, maybe I would prefer to start early desu.

it's autistic finnish wordplay

>"kike" name calling

Go back to watching Chernovich, Jones and whatever conspiracy shit you fancy. Money are more important nowadays and the leading force in politics, unlike 2+ centuries ago when religious and romanticised nationalistic strife would prevail. I'm not a big fan of economics and I don't gauge countries solely according to their purchasing force but the bulk of the people do.

Thanks, powermongol. I was asking about what level you should have, not how much you are studying it. B1, B2 etc.

They are not that much higher than the rest of Finland (i would bet that in Helsinki and the surroundings wages could be a bit higher), but as i mentioned they are basically a tax free zone and they're local taxes are lower than in the mainland.

I don't have a clue about the levels, sorry. All I can say is mine was enough.

>I would love to study Swedish
Why? Swedish is useless unless you're planning to live in Sweden.

This. The reason i never bothered learning Swedish in school was that i never wanted to move to Sweden (no offense Sven)

I love the Swedish culture, history and music. I'd move to Sweden, namely Västerbotten for the landscape, climate, lifestyle however I have to graduate the uni first and then to overcome my inferiority complex in comparison with the ethnic swedes instilled in me after years of reading Varg's books and watching his videos.

t. brown eyed

Are there language certificates for Swedish? Counterparts to Goethe for German or Cambridge for English.

No idea.

Svedophile

>Finns speak Swedish
hardly they do, and I mean 99% of ethno fingolians hate that shit with a burning passion, it's just that they have to take some classes in school, mainly in high school. 60% finns are rednecks and go to professional schools rather than typical high school.

Just transfer to Umeå Universitet (pretty decent school) and see if you like it there. You probably won't. It's dark 6 months each year and there's nothing there. It also takes several hours just to go to Stockholm, so going back to Romania would take a whole day. And if you want to see the landscape, you want to go to the mountains in Lappland, and that's not exactly close to Västerbotten. Also, Swedes will think you're a gypsy, and the gypsies outside the convenience stores are going to follow you around once they discover you're Romanian. Also, bear in mind that Västerbotten in general and Umeå in particular are breeding grounds for socialism.

>Are there language certificates for Swedish?
If you can sing Abba's Dancing Queen while sucking a black immigrant cock, I'd say you've made it.

shit! Even Finns meme has got autism! no one gets it

C U C K E D

Is this a bad thing? I turn truly despondent when I hear about the replacing of the Swedish population with non-whites. I don't give a damn shit about worthless nations like Poland or Hungary or how "based" they are. I want Sweden to shake off the alien elements.

Do they also beat their wives? Finland dwarves most of the Europe in the DV stats.

I see. Which is the least Marxist town of a significant size in Sweden? If I am to settle anywhere there, I'd have to pick between Tromso, Umeå and Luleå. How's the latter? Norrbotten is also nice, and I actually seek that kind of climate. The short winter we have and the sunny climate disgusts me. I hate sunny weather. Göteborg is the city I find the most beautiful in Sweden and maybe the whole Europe, contending with Bergen and Copenhagen for its place, but it seems way too large and southern. I love the musical heritage of Goteborg (melodeath).

The entire North votes communist but that is also where the least non-whites live.

Pretty much this.

Åland is pretty much a reserve of pure Swedes, preserved perfectly by Finland. In Sweden they would be no more special than Gotland, so naturally they want to stay where they can be special snowflakes.

I have met an Ålander once who cheered for the Finnish team in hockey once though. But mostly they go to uni in Sweden and act Swedish in every regard.

Lapps included or what? I don't think the negroes can bear with the harsh northern climate. I know that Götaland is done for, especially Malmö/Skåne, so which region/county remains? I just want to live in a safe place, I don't mind women being coal burners or their mindset as long as there aren't many niggers around. I'll most likely stay a khv for life.

Coalburners are random, usually it is Polish immigrants who are the biggest coalburners here and they mostly live in the south.
I would say live in Norrbotten then outside of the the major cities there and you will find what you are looking for.
There is only whites living there.

>I actually seek that kind of climate
If you haven't lived there, you don't know. People go crazy due to the constant darkness, darker people are particularly affected. Somali children in Sweden almost all get autism because of the vitamin D deficiency.
>Lapps included or what?
Lapps aren't genetically distinct from the rest of Sweden really. This is just something they claim in order to justify ethnic separatism (Ethnic Swedes aren't allowed to own reindeer, only Sami people are).
>I just want to live in a safe place, I don't mind women being coal burners or their mindset as long as there aren't many niggers around. I'll most likely stay a khv for life.
Then go to Norrland. Like the other guy says, black people are mainly found in Skåne and it's usually just Polish women who date them.

I wish we could turn back time and let in like 5k immigrants with your mindset instead of 1 million middle eastern/african shitskin idiots.

Let me tell you a story. I had friend who was a Slovak. Just like you, he was a huge fan of the Nordic countries and when he first moved to Finland he was quite ecstatic about the fact that he would live in this the beautiful, social utopia that was constantly presented as a paradise in international media. He had to move to Sweden after one year of working in Finland, though i would meet him occasionally in Turku as he traveled with the ferry quite regularly. Each time i met him, he seemed more and more depressed and pissed off. Three years after living in Sweden i met him again. I asked him how's it going, is everything ok? After those three years all of his fantasies of the Nordic utopia had shattered. Immigrants everywhere. Obnoxious/depressed people with antisocial tendencies. Everything costs an arm and leg due to the very high taxes. And instead of those taxes going to actually good things like improving the society, having a proper healthcare, they went to housing and supporting refugees. The healthcare was a complete joke (he had to wait a whole night in the hospital for anyone to even check him when he had strong stomach pains). The education was fairly shitty, with obnoxious teachers and teaching kids about degeneracy and feminism at early age. Everything was going to shit, but the naive locals would just close their eyes to the whole situation, while larping how great their social system is and how good they are for taking all these poor immigrants. They would be so obnoxious, that if he brought up something like how the whole country is getting ruined, natives would just keep telling him how international studies rank Sweden as one of the greatest countries in the world to live in and that Sweden should be a model for every country in the world. The reason I'm telling you this, is that i don't want you to have such high expectations and then get completely devastated once you realise that things are not the same as you thought they would be.

I can't follow university classes from a village, although I want to live in a rural environment after having graduated university. Honestly, from all the demographics in Sweden I guess I'd click the most with the elderly.

I go dead depressed in summer due to constant 35 degrees and no clouds on the sky the entire day. Should I not stay a KHV, would the Swedish women like a pale but brown eyed manlet (180)?

Few Romanians are like those you happen into on the internet. Everybody on the internet is more educated than your average commoner from *insert country*. We're like Poles in terms of behaviour abroad, not too nice, but better than niggers all in all.

Read this aswellSwedish uni is brainwashing marxistcentral, You will share the same place with the most fucked up marxist creatures to walk this planet.
I highly don't recommend going here to study, If you go here then i would recommend go innawoods with your family and live you lives in peace with your (hopefully) good neighbors.
Sweden is a country which is heading towards civil war or massive unrest.
I strongly advice against moving here but if thats what you want then remember what i said.

Maybe your friend was a normalfag, but I am done with the warmth and social closure of the Romanian society. I hate tapping others on their shoulders, I hate having to talk with my interlocutor when he is 30 cm away from me and I hate that I get singled out for being an introvert. Sweden and Norway show their superiority by letting concepts of personal space and individuality pervade their society.

Your condition will get much worse if you move to Scandinavia, especially some rural place.

>relatively uncucked government of Finland.
>T. Åland
You dont know anything

>Sweden and Norway show their superiority by letting concepts of personal space and individuality pervade their society.
You're going to be very disappointed.

because sven will fill it with their grenade throwing multiculti pets

At least they don't get drunk and beat their wives in the Swedish countryside, otherwise a practice both of us are familiar with.

Ålands autonomy and priviledges granted to the swedish speaking minority, along side with forced swedish education are standing proof that we are still a swedish puppet.

This is Suomi not Sverige. The swedish speaking minority should integrate. Same for other minorities.

I live in the Swedish countryside and sorry to dissapoint you but that is exactly what i have experienced and seen throughout my life here growing up.

Holy shit, how delusional are you? Trust me, you'll be very, very, VERY disappointed if you ever move to the Swedish countryside

This.

The old folk will shun you as a matu and you'll only get isolated in the countryside

The northern part of Sweden is basically a depressed hell-hole during 8 months. Everyone is socialist and everyone lives far away from each-other.

Would recommend southern part, like Skåne and Bohuslän.

lel, you can take the shithole and the "your people" too

Nah I like the North. Sparsely populated, cold, glacial, superstitions and old norse folk stories like Nisse or Fossegrimen still linger there.

Any anecdotes? From the stats I have seen that alcoholism and dv are less common in Sweden than either Finland or Romania.

You're never going to be Swedish in the way that you think. Swedes who like immigration are going to speak English with you for the rest of your life and think "your culture is wonderful", but they will never see you as Swedish, despite what they may tell you. The Swedes who share your beliefs will always see you as a gypsy and won't hang out with you. Your beliefs will prevent you from getting a job or getting friends. The only women who may consider dating you are leftists or immigrants, both of which will be chased away by your political beliefs. You're also going to discover the bad parts about Sweden, the things you don't hear about. Sweden is filled with red tape. You can't build a house where you want, you can own land the way you want, starting a business costs more time and money than you have. Alcohol costs half your salary and you can only buy it at systembolaget, and alcohol is the only chance you have of actually getting to know anyone.

Moving to Sweden would be a big disappointment. Sweden isn't the country you think it is, it never was, and it never will be.

Stats won't tell you much.
All my grandfathers and my father aswell have severe alchohol problems and at times my dad has been violent towards my mom.
It is the same story for many of my friends and their parents but i don't consider this to be a big societal problem anymore in Sweden overall.
The young out here in the woods however drink all the time because there is nothing else to do out here.
Imagine some redneck states in the US mixed with the Russian countryside, That's how it is out here.
I like it here as i grew up here and lived all my life here but i have a hard time seeing me voluntarely moving here from somewhere else if it wasn't for the fact that i grew up here.

I am sure some Swedes who share my beliefs, post here, and are aware that the gypsy is just a meme. I live in north eastern Romania which is the whitest region in the whole country and I hate to see people on the street who could pass as locals in Sweden while I will never be able to.

Can't I prepare my own moonshine using plums and abiding by the romanian recipe? Or cross the border from Luleå and buy koskenkorva. How did you guess my knack for alcohol, I wonder?

>I'd love to go to Romania, live in the rural areas where people still believe in dragons and vampires. I'd love to live in a stone castle and have a butler like people do over there. I don't want to go to Bulgaria though, because people in Bulgaria are uneducated and fat according to stats I've seen.

This is what you sound like.

>stats
According to these same "stats" Finland and Sweden should be the "happiest" countries on earth, yet everyone is depressed, many people are alcoholic and suicide is widespread (at least here in Finland), so if i were you i would take those "stats" with a grain of salt

Amen to that. It's pretty much the same thing here, though alcohol seems to be even more expensive

Do you honestly believe that there are many people in Sweden like that? Even those that share your political beliefs will see you as a welfare leeching/job stealing gypsy, even if you are not a gypsy

The north is deppressing.
The summers might be fun and energetic since the sun doesn't go down and everybody parties. But it is overshadowed by the long, cold, dark and wet winters. Depending on where you live you'll get a few hours of sunlight or none.
During winter everybody becomes moody and isolated, so you'll get next to no socialinteraction and you'll replace it with alcohol or other entertainment. As you are alone you'll start to think that the summer joy you had was just fake and life will begin to seem meaningles.

It is no joke that we have high suiciderates.

Plus you will be a matu

>Can't I prepare my own moonshine using plums and abiding by the romanian recipe?
You can do it, but it's illegal.
>Or cross the border from Luleå and buy koskenkorva.
There's an alcohol monopoly in Finland too, and it's barely cheaper there.

Nice strawman XD.

Suicide rates in Norway and Sweden are similar to Romania's, while they are a bit higher in Finland.

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I love darkness and black metal. I have a reverse type of seasonal affective disorder. What's a matu?

Maahantunkeutuja=intruder
An insult used to describe unwanted foreingers

You don't get it. The "Romanian gypsy" thing isn't a meme in Sweden. Most people see no difference between Romanians and gypsies. Gypsies are called Romanians (or EU migrants) in Swedish newspapers. Only educated people will know there's a difference between gypsies and the average Romanian, and those people aren't going to share your political beliefs, if you can even find them in the north. People are going to ask you if you can talk to the gypsy outside of ICA, if you know him or if you can help him. They won't ask this to be mean, they will ask this because they honestly believe you're the same ethnic group.
It's not a strawman. It's a demonstration of how ridiculous your romantic delusions are in terms that you will understand.

LÖL

If russians invade finland we can have supplies coming with protection of the isles. This also means we wouldnt drag sweden to the war. If it were not for this sweden would alredy have it.

This

if russians ever decide to invade any scandinavian coutry or all of them (which they never had plans for), it will be over faster than Georgian comaign of 2008

Ahvenanmaa would be militarised during war, which would create russians an insentive to capture it and cut of logistics in the baltic.

Yes but that doesn't mean we should dump the strat. It's something atleast

Defeatism will only demoralize the army. Even if we have no chance of winning I am prepared to fight for the sovereingty and freedom of my brethren.