Prove that the holocaust didn't happen

prove that the holocaust didn't happen.

pro tip: you can't

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You're correct. It's impossible to prove a negative.

a) you have to prove that it did happen
b) it did happen but not on that scale and was perpetrated by germans
c) now when germans are being put into good goys position jews want to switch blame to Poland wchich is outrageous

How about you prove it happened. I literally just stopped believing in it because its all based on little bits of hearsay. If things like soap and lampshades and beds of knives were bullshit why does a gas shower even seem not retarded.

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>fermented cabbage poster
you're too far gone
gas chamber doors weren't airtight
on scene sketches were wrong
admitted lies
no mass graves at Treblinka (radar analysis)
Not to mention the lie itself exists to benefit the most powerful group int he history of the world, giving them both immunity and benefits
nigger

Going to need some citations for those claims.

prove that the holocaust did happen.

pro tip: you can't

Robert Faurisson

Prove that anything regarding anything happened. Pro tip: you can't

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This link has a bunch of NAZI documents and photographs and also debunks any claim by deniers:
siraaronrichards.imgur.com/

And this site also debunks most claims by deniers:
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

>proof you are a nigger
>flag

Holocaust happened but it was a summer camp for da jooz

>German Flag
Boys, I think this guy knows what he's talking about.

Wasn't there an official final number decided on in 1991? I can't find the entry for it.

They are called Polish deathcamps for a reason?

The reason is they were in Poland, dipshit. Guess who occupied Poland.

Elaborate?

Germany occupied Poland.

What does that have to fucking do with Poland building death camps?

you deserve Malmos all around for your reckless faggotry

We borrowed some parts of Poland, but we gave them back to Poland after the war
I don't see a problem with borrowing something from a friend

The fuck is Malmos? It that Hussarian for Zyklon?

>but we gave them back
more like Ruskie and westerners beat you up and looted the land from your corpse

>Swedish posting 101

>Friend
>Invade Poland and make an alliance with the USSR and give half of Poland to the USSR

>Polishposting 010

Shitstorm...
I sense it..

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We were asked to give the land back, yes, but we would have done that anyways

That's rich coming from someone who supplied the Commies with weapons
Sharing is caring, it's obvious why everyone thinks were nice and rational people, because that's what we are

So where are the pictures of these magical kike burning ovens? All you provided was a drawing.

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>That's rich coming from someone who supplied the Commies with weapons
Was your idea of defeating communism to weaken Europe with a massive war that you started?

Just turn back into Nazis, we need you more than ever

if pic related was willing to invent 5 million non-Jewish victims of the Holocaust then what is stopping them from inventing 6 million?

6 is a magical number to Jews. That is why the bible says God created the universe in 6 days (on the 7th day he rested).

> bully a nations of autists after WWI
> force them to accept it's all their fault
> be surprised when they sperg out

I don't know why stormweenies still post here, but you're all regurgitating the same debunked denial arguments from the past 75 years. the only way you could doubt the debunks of denial theories is to inherently distrust jews and claim the evidence is fabricated by jews. at that point, your argument becomes shitty circular reasoning.

At least you admit Germany wanted millions of more Europeans dead after World War 1 ended.

Why is it we need to prove a man guilty of murdering one beyond a reasonable doubt,yet we when reasonable doubt is created in the alleged murder of millions it's not enough?

Stalin said the death of one is a tragedy the death of a million is a statistic. The converse is that proving a man guilty of one death is difficult while to prove a whole nation to be guilty of genocide is easy.

This, the fact that the Nuremburg "trials" openly admitted to not following the normal rules of evidence, and that it is illegal to question the verdicts of those trials in most European countries really tells you all you need to know about this shitshow.

Just like everyone else back then, what's your point?

Because the entire hoax is literally based solely on hearsay and conjecture. Half the "survivors" make up the most ridiculous tales and expect everyone to believe it without question. Yes, there are flaws in some of the arguments posed, but the debunkings are far more flawed and I'll conceived.

Prove this man was lying or mistaken.
pro tip: you can't

This, and what did happen was mostly justified, torture and sadism of individuals aside.
Also, even if every last European Jew was hunted down and killed, that's still no reason for whites to lay down and die. We have a right to exist, and a right to our native homelands.

A lot of things are false and if you doubt or disprove wone thing you're already a holocost denier, like in Auswitz 300.000 people died because of various reasons. But later they inflated it to 4.000.000 people died in Auswitz.
If you want a good source read David Irving.
My grandfather was put in a camp by the Germans he had it bad, but some people forget that Germans were very hungry at the end of the war so you wont find healthy well-fed prisoners when the Germans themselves are dying of starvation.

The worst thing that could happen to you after the war was to be thrown into a Soviet POW camp

Also Germany fought communism and communism is zionism and zionists are jews

the truth fears no investigation, the fact the the questioning the holocaust is illegal in many countries suggests that its not true.

Even questioning the numbers is illegal

My grandfather traveled through Germany after he left the camp, he had a german gf who gave him food in the camp she put it in his pocket, later he promised to take her to the Netherlands when he settled down, but you couldnt merry a german woman in those times.

Not only did it not happen, but I take it as a compliment when they tell the lies. It means they think my group is such a nice people they will take responsibility for the things others did.

My grandfather was a deserter, he was to frightened to die, he turned himself in.

rumors circulated. why the fuck would you expect someone stuck in a camp to know how others are killed? nobody survived gassing. why would they know the inner workings of any camp, especially ones far away from them? not being informed as a prisoner, especially since many survivors were children, is not lying.

the wood doors were not airtight, this is correct. however, the wood doors were replaced by airtight doors. nobody disputes that reinhard gassings didn't start until later in the war.

graves exist at treblinka. the denial theory blatantly ignores pictures of graves as well as nazi demolition of the camp. the radar thinks the land was never disturbed, which is impossible because the camp did in fact exist and was destroyed.

you need to update your facts.

>1 post by this ID
sage

Points to a single error in fact made by any of the deniers citing their own websites or Publications. Pro-tip you can't.

the only person who attempted to post facts here was entirely wrong. muh soap and lamps does not mean jews lied. there were rumors in camps. a lot of those "lies" came from children who recounted their experience. of course they don't have an objective grasp of reality.

for all the whining you do about how one must prove the holocaust happened exactly as described, it's rather hypocritical of you to describe conflicting testimony as lies when you have never once proven that anyone lied.

My family lived in a very rural area of Germany, virtually everyone was self-sufficient, so at least they didn't starve after the war (except the unlucky veterans who were starved to death in POW camps)
People in the cities were fucked tho
And literally all of East Germany

Define Holocaust.
6 million jews + 17 million others? The ovens of Auschwitz would be flaming even today. That didn't happen.
273'000 who died from typhus,hard labour,food shortages? That's what happened.
Also,there were only about 4,6 million jews in all of german occupied territories.

They took samples of mortar and brick in auswitz there was no large scale gassing there where they say the gassing happened, there was a very small shed where they found residue but this didnt had the capacity to kill the number of jews they say were gassed.
And they count any jew who died between 40-45 as a holocost victim no matter what way they died age/sickness whatever

errors in census data are expected and the burning rate cited by deniers is based on faulty assumptions and nonsensical comparisons such as funeral pyres and goats.

leuchter used flawed methodology. no accuracy in sampling of bricks, ground them up to increase volume of brick relative to zyklon b residue to bias results.

I blame the courts for this misunderstanding. if his report had been admitted as evidence and publicly discussed, people couldn't fall back on the "jews silenced the truth" argument

I'm not saying that lots of people didn't die. I'm just saying that the numbers are inflated. Not defending the krauts either,they oppressed my nation aswell in the name of Adolf Shitler and they deserve to be punished even more.
But the gassing part:wasn't zyklon b also used by americans to de-louse the clothes of mexican immigrants? And all the de-lousing chambers at Auschwitz? Why would the germans need to help prevent typhus? Also,why not simply deprive inmates of water and let them die in a week or so? Much more efficient.

also, gas chambers were plastered. bare brick was not exposed to zyklon b which is why there are hardly any samples that show up with prussia blue and majdanek is a rare visual example.

you can't faggot

the numbers dont really matter given the difficulty of collecting census data at the time. its not like anyone will ever be able to say with certainty if it was 6 or 5, but the fact remains millions of jews lived in the affected regions. they all disappeared and their belongings remained.

as for delousing, you're sort of proving the nazi logic. they didnt start out in 35 gassing jews. the holocaust was a buildup that lasted roughly from 41 to 45. jews were used for forced labor. they were certainly deloused as well but that has no bearing on the lethal applications of zyklon b. actually, it sort of proves that zyklon b was used because they already had it and didnt discover gassing techniques until later, which is consistent with camp changes that signal a policy shift from internment to genocide

I dont know about that but reports show from generals that Hitler wanted to deal with the jews when the war was won. I'm Dutch and Germans are my brothers, I cant imagine the things some say are true. Hitler was fighting a war against communism and the zionists were communists so they would be subverting the Germans and were a terrible menace, Germans werent like over night saying hey we need a scapegoat for our war, like the popular belief says.

this has always been the problem. if you can't believe such a thing is possible, data and facts won't change your opinion.

an earlier point I didn't address is the idea that the holocaust was a springboard for zionism. while it is certainly true but the Holocaust drew attention to the cause, it is inconsistent with the idea that the jews control everything. Otherwise, they would not need a holocaust to get their way, especially considering the poor state of arab relations with the west and the decline of the british empire in british palestine. also, if such a conspiracy were unfolding, that would require the entire nazi hierarchy to display a level of ineptitude necessary to become useful idiots for the jews that is inconsistent with the many successes and innovations of nazi germany

At which camps did gassings occur?

The facts is that the camp general of Auswitz was convicted of the death of 300.000 people later around 1970 it was 4.000.000 This fact alone would tell you that holocost is a hoax, and every new historian would make it worse to sell more books and appease the jews. I trust Irving in his extensive studies

holy shit, i didnt know it was that bad.

David Irving was put in jail for 400 days in Austria I believe in 2006, they wanted to put him away for 20 years

>Even questioning the numbers is illegal
It's mad, a lot of Israeli historians would be breaking the law if they published their work in Germany

and the real mass killings happened behind the iron curtain, I wonder why no one cares about them. maybe because they arent (((gods chosen people)))

Just because Jews disappeared doesn't mean they were gassed and cremated en mass.

>if you can't believe such a thing is possible, data and facts won't change your opinion.
But there are no data and facts to support the Homocaust. Just eyewitness accounts and papers.

What we do know is that systematically killing 6 million people didn’t happen, let alone fucking 11 million people.

Finally, even the Jews themselves have admitted that they lied multiple times. Over the decades, the number of people killed at Auschwitz decreased from 4 million to 1.1 million. How the fuck do you mess up that badly if you have DATA and FACTS?

The answer: you don’t have them.

I thought the point was it did happen but (((they))) changed the death camps to concentration camps after the war to get more money or something.

this

give me a jack hammer and i can prove that a wallmart was built on top of the american mass graves of homeless american men who starved to death during the depression who were used in propaganda films and images to defame germany

Jews didn’t really have the resources to do this.

No camp ever inspected by the US has been shown to have been a death camp.

Ya and the commies wouldn't allow inspections.
Truth does not fear investigation.

You tell em, if Americans ever find out about what really happened in the 30s there will be riots in the streets

Fist fuck best fuck

Even if the holocaust did happen there would have been a reason. It's not the first time an empire has tried to wipe out Jews, not even the second but the 12th.
The Ancient Egyptian Empire, the Babylonian Empire, the Phillistines,the Persian Empire, Assyria, the Roman Empire, the Greek Empire, the Byzantine Empire, the Spainish Empire, the Crusaders , Nazi Germany, and Russia all tried to exterminate Jews.

Maybe we should start to look at the Jews as this many empires cannot be wrong. Lets be honest libtards if 12 (credible) people accused someone of rape would you think they did it.

Prove the Soviets didn't forge those documents and stage those photos.

>why does a gas shower even seem not retarded.

because if you needed to dispose of hundreds of thousands of people quickly, how would you do it?

Shooting - ok pretty cheap and effective, but you try that and find that the shooters get upset about shooting kids and pretty young women and little old men and little old ladies ALL DAY FOR DAY AFTER DAY

so you need a quick way to kill en masse.

Simply starve or allow to die from thirst? cheapish, but needs secure pens to keep them in for a few days or weeks, and you don't know when they are all dead - they may riot and attempt to escape, need constant heavy guarding, and when you go to take out the bodies some will be half rotten and some still alive. Also they will make noises a lot - crying children and wailing women - very disturbing. Nasty to watch and hard to clean up.

electrocution? Possible but expensive to do (big generators needed and have to keep cleaning the electrodes probably)

Room full of steam? Good option. Not hard to generate steam and pump it into a room, but... messy. Skin burns and peels off, and the bodies are covered in water and body fluids.

room full of rotating knives? Well it has the advantage of cutting up the body as well for compact storage, but is mechanically a nuisance - have to sharpen the knives every few hours, and actually disposing of the meaty pulp would be difficult.

just shove in a room en masse and seal the door so they suffocate? again easy and cheap, but again, how long do you have to wait? How can you be certain they are all dead?

I know - why not throw in some of that cyanide insecticide we have in big tins just to finish off the job? In the heat of the room with the bodies in it, and with the people moving around and running away from it, it will be quickly dispersed and they will all be guaranteed dead in half a hour and we can get on with disposing of them? (good idea Fritz, have a medal)

Now what do we do with the bodies?

So when they were starving for resources they had massive ovens working around the clock, burning what precious valuable fuel they had, it doesnt ad up.

So we have all these corpses what do we do with them?

If we bury them we run out of room for mass graves pretty quickly. (not a problem across the vast sweep of Russia, but not easy if you are killing hundreds of thousands in a short time in one place). Cremate them? Hygienic and fast, adn the ash can be compactly buried or shipped out.

how to burn them? Well big piles of bodies and fuel works, but not all the bodies burn well, adn there are lots of big bones adn skulls survive the fire. How about cremation ovens? You know, since Germany has the most advanced cremation oven buildiers in Europe, why not ask them to design a few ovens for us?

and we coul dbuild a gas chamber right beside the ovens for easy disposal. How about we havethem all undress first so we can raid their clothes for money and jewls adn only have to burn the bodies? and put it near the end of the railway platform, so we can sort them out as they come off the train - fit looking men can be taken for slave labour, and the rest to the gas chamber.

"brilliant idea fritz, but perhaps we should not tell them they are going to be gassed - they might object?"

"No problem Hans, tell them they are going to have a shower - that way they undress willingly and leave all their luggage for us to plunder later."

"Genius, Fritz, have another medal"

That is why gas showers do not seem retarded.


also it is not based on hearsay - we have lots of documents and plans and travel orders and eyewitness reports.

>prove that the holocaust didn't happen.
No one says that you GASLIGHTING kike. Pic related.

>GASLIGHTING kike

The mysteriously changing numbers of alleged dead at Auschwitz:

9,000,000 Cited by the French documentary, Night and Fog, which has been shown to millions of school students worldwide.

8,000,000 The French War Crime Research Office, Doc. 31, 1945.

7,000,000 Also cited by the French War Crime Research Office.

6,000,000 Cited in the book “Auschwitz Doctor” by Miklos Nyiszli. It has since been proven that this book is a fraud and the "doctor" was never even at Auschwitz, even though the book is often cited by historians.

5,000,000 to 5,500,000 Cited in 1945 at the trial of Auschwitz commander Rudolf Hoess, based on his “confession” which was written in English, a language he never spoke.

5,000,000 Cited on April 20, 1978 by the French daily, Le Monde. Also cited on January 23, 1995 by the German daily Die Welt. By September 1, 1989, Le Monde reduced the figure to 1,433,000.

4,500,000 In 1945 this figure was cited by another witness at the aforementioned Hoess trial.

4,000,000 Cited by a Soviet document of May 6, 1945 and officially acknowledged by the Nuremberg War Crimes trial. This figure was also reported in The New York Times on April 18, 1945, although 50 years later on January 26, 1995 (see below), The New York Times and The Washington Post slashed the figure to 1,500,000 citing new findings by the Auschwitz Museum officials. In fact, the figure of 4,000,000 was later repudiated by the Auschwitz museum officials in 1990 (see below) but the figure of 1,500,000 victims was not formally announced by Polish President Lech Walesa until five years after the Auschwitz historians had first announced their discovery.

3,500,000 Cited in the 1991 edition of the Dictionary of the French Language and by Claude Lanzmann in 1980 in his introduction to Filip Muller's book, “Three Years in an Auschwitz Gas Chamber.”

3,000,000 Cited in a forced confession by Rudolf Hoess, the Auschwitz commander who said this was the number of those who had died at Auschwitz prior to Dec. 1, 1943. Later cited in the June 7, 1993 issue of Heritage, the most widely read Jewish newspaper in California, even though three years previously the authorities at the Auschwitz museum had scaled down the figure to a minimum of 1,100,000 and a maximum of 1,500,000. (see below).

2,500,000 Cited by a famous "witness to the Holocaust," Rudolf Vrba, when he testified on July 16, 1981 for the Israeli government's war crimes trial of former SS official Adolf Eichmann.

2,000,000 Cited by no less than three famous Holocaust historians, including Leon Poliakov (1951) writing in “Harvest of Hate”; Georges Wellers, writing in 1973 in “The Yellow Star at the Time of Vichy”; and Lucy Dawidowicz, writing in 1975 in “The War Against the Jews.”

2,000,000 to 4,000,000 Cited by Israeli historian Yehuda Bauer in 1982 in his book, “A History of the Holocaust.” However, by 1989 Bauer revised his figures and determined that the actual number was lower: 1,600,000.

1,600,000 This is a 1989 revision by Israeli historian Yehuda Bauer of his earlier figure in 1982 of 2,000,000 to 4,000,000, Bauer cited this new figure on September 22, 1989 in The Jerusalem Post, at which time he wrote' 'The larger figures have been dismissed for years, except that it hasn't reached the public yet."

1,500,000 In 1995 this was the “official" number of Auschwitz deaths announced by Polish President Lech Walesa as determined by the historians at the Auschwitz museum. This number was inscribed on the monument at the Auschwitz camp at that time, thereby "replacing" the earlier 4,000,000 figure that had been formally repudiated (and withdrawn from the monument) five years earlier in 1990. At that time, on July 17, 1990 The Washington Times reprinted a brief article from The London Daily Telegraph citing the "new" figure of 1,500,000 that had been determined by the authorities at the Auschwitz museum. This new figure was reported two years later in a UPI report published in the New York Post on March 26, 1992. On January 26, 1995 both The Washington Post and The New York Times cited this 1,500,000 figure as the new "official" figure (citing the Auschwitz Museum authorities).

1,471,595 This is a 1983 figure cited by historian Georges Wellers who (as noted previously) had determined, writing in 1973, that some 2,000,000 had died. In his later calculation, Wellers decided that of the 1,471,595 who had died at Auschwitz, 1,352,980 were Jews.

1,433,000 This figure was cited on September 1, 1989 by the French daily, Le Monde, which earlier, on April 20, 1978, had cited the figure at 4,000,000.

1,250,000 In 1985, historian Raul Hilberg arrived at this figure in his book, “The Destruction of the European Jews.” According to Hilberg, of those dead, some 1,000,000 were Jews.

1,100,000 to 1,500,000 Sources for this estimate are historians Yisrael Gutman and Michael Berenbaum (later of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum) in their 1984 book, “Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp”; also Dr. Franciszek Piper, the curator of the Auschwitz Museum, writing a chapter in that book. This estimate was later also cited by Walter Reich, former director of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, writing in The Washington Post on September 8, 1998. The upper figure of 1,500,000 thus remains the "official" figure as now inscribed at Auschwitz, with the earlier figure of 4,000,000 having been removed from the memorial at the site of the former concentration camp.

1,000,000 Jean-Claude Pressac, writing in his 1989 book “Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers.” This is interesting since he wrote his book to repudiate so-called "Holocaust deniers" who were called that precisely because they had questioned the numbers of those who had died at Auschwitz.

900,000 Reported on August 3, 1990 11, by Aufbau, a Jewish newspaper in New York.

800,000 to 900,000 Reported by Gerald Reitlinger in his 1953 book, “The Final Solution.” This figure is notable, considering the fact that it reduces the Auschwitz death total from the 4,000,000 figure that was widely in vogue in 1953.

775,000 to 800,000 Jean-Claude Pressac's revised figure, put forth in his 1993 book, “The Crematoria of Auschwitz: The Mass Murder's Machinery”, scaling down the figure from Pressac's 1989 claim of 1,000,000 dead. At this juncture, Pressac said that of the new number, 630,000 were Jews.

630,000 to 710,000 In 1994 Pressac scaled his figure down somewhat further; this is the figure cited in the German language translation of Pressac's 1993 book originally published in French. Again, this is substantially less than Pressac's 1989 figure of 1,000,000.

73,137 This figure was reported in The New York Times on March 3, 1991 and was based entirely on the wartime German concentration camp records that had been captured by the Soviets and just recently released. According to this figure, of those dead, 38,031 were Jews. These records state that the total of all persons who died in the ENTIRE German prison camp system from 1935 to 1945 were 403,713. To repeat: a total of 403,713 persons of all races and religions was officially recorded to have died (of all causes. typhus, old age, measles, etc.-and execution) in the entire prison camp system over a 10 year period. Of those 403,713 a total of 73,137 died at Auschwitz. Of those 73,137 who died at Auschwitz, 38,031 were Jews.

Were there a handful of crematoriums? Yep. Millions were interned in POW camps at various times. They were good-sized cities and typhus (what Anne Frank died of towards the end of the war in March of 1945) was rampant. It was a necessity.

Enough to cremate gorzilllions in 3 years? Nope. Not even close, a ridiculous proposition. In fact the handful there actually were were multiplied many times over by fake ones built post-war... and still not anywhere close to enough. This is all thoroughly documented. Plus it's basic math.

Were jews treated for disease and delousing? Yep.

Were jews "gassed" in some sort of overly complicated Rube Goldberg method of mass killing? Nope.

Did jews die? Yep. Especially towards the end of the war as there wasn't enough food and supplies to take care of the Germans themselves, much less jew POWs. Why do you think the allies found camps full of ALIVE albeit starving jews? And the dead jews found, dead due to starvation? GASSING DOESN'T MAGICALLY MAKE YOU SKINNY.

Did 6 jews million die? Nope. Again, basic math in regards to the jew population post-war. 300,000-900,000 died in camps do to a combination of disease and starvation. There was NO multi-million scale organized mass killing of jews.

Is history written by the victors? Yep.

Has the holohoax been used to maintain and expand jew control upon the world? Yep.

Is jew power linchpinned to this fabrication and this is why kikes conduct a continual propaganda spin campaign? Yep.

And they are fully prepared to do so for the next 1,000 years.

Pic: jews initially claimed all 30+ POW camps were "extermination camps".

Then every single camp captured by the US showed zero evidence of gas chambers or any other form of systematic mass killing.

ONLY the Soviets claimed they found evidence of large scale gas chamber killing... after refusing outside investigators for years... and after (now admittedly) RECONSTRUCTING the camps.

What a coincidence!

Soviet reconstructions and other lies exposed, ON SITE, here:

youtube.com/watch?v=Ae_WSV4n-u8