Is Sup Forums red-pilled on class realism yet?

Is Sup Forums red-pilled on class realism yet?

no this board isnt redpilled on anything. this is why they continue to support milquetoast neoliberal pseudo-nationalist politicians.

yes

what a retarded fucking ideology

yes, there is the productive class (which can have people of any socio-economic background), and then there is the parasite class (you)
pic related is how to solve the problem

LOL muh based Pinochet. Milton Friedman. That's all that needs to be said.

Nice Flag.

it's not an ideology, it's a transparent and piss-poor attempt at trying to convince people to support communism, the most retarded and failed ideology in human history

stay mad

the ideology that took a peasant 3rd world nation and turned it into a world super power. The failed ideology is the one you're living in right now. It requires the state and your tax dollars to keep it afloat. It crashed a decade ago. It'll crash again. And you'll continue to pay through the nose for it.

>Implying the "bourgeoise" isn't just the jew
You fell for the meme

Milton Friedman

you're not going to convince anyone to support the objectively worst economic system ever attempted, communism failed totally and completely, it killed over 100 million with famine

keep wasting your time it's hilarious

commies get the helicopter

of course its the Jew. You people lack subtlety.

Yes, certain classes of people are superior e.g. the nobility and the rural farmer, other classes are utterly degenerate e.g. the urban middle-class.

One of these groups is fit to rule, the other is not.

>They don't even know the definitions of the key terminology of their ideology

Not surprised desu, the bourgeoisie is the middle class, btw.

That is to say you idiots.

This

And the sad thing is it's working, the state of Western liberal democracies have left such a bad state in people's mouths that they will unironically support communism over it. You can see it on this very board

>muh gorillonz
lmao

Every fucking commie must fucking hang.

you sound like a neocon radio host. kill yourself, liberal scum.

The Communist Party of the United States, or any successors of such party regardless of the assumed name, whose object or purpose is to overthrow the Government of the United States, or the government of any State, Territory, District, or possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein by force and violence, are not entitled to any of the rights, privileges, and immunities attendant upon legal bodies created under the jurisdiction of the laws of the United States or any political subdivision thereof; and whatever rights, privileges, and immunities which have heretofore been granted to said party or any subsidiary organization by reason of the laws of the United States or any political subdivision thereof, are terminated: Provided, however, That nothing in this section shall be construed as amending the Internal Security Act of 1950, as amended [50 U.S.C. 781 et seq.]
(Aug. 24, 1954, ch. 886, ยง3, 68 Stat. 776.)

the bourgeoisie is not just the middle class. there are plenty of middle class people who have their labor exploited.

That's right, the bourgeoisie is the Jews, that is to say less than 1% of the population in most countries concerned.

You fools don't even know your own perverted Marxist theory, holy shit.

Breaking news: you are not entitled to steal what i have produced with my labor just because you are a lazy neet

The Rich Jews are the problem
1. A pretty good fraction of the super-rich are Jews, and they hate goyish culture. In both political parties, they reliably bankroll suppression of Christian America. Their influence among the Democrats is obvious, but they're also responsible for steering the GOP toward mass immigration and gay marriage. They're the ones who have been trying (mostly successfully) to get the GOP to drop those awful, divisive values from its platform and become strictly the party of lower marginal tax rates.

2. The non-Semitic rich pretty much all have middle-to-upper-class educations. Education has been totally, 100% pozzed in this country since 1969. Zuckersperg didn't give $100m to NJ public schools because his billions have corrupted him; he did it because it's the kind of thing he's believed in since he was 14. It's hard to find people who aren't catechized in multikult, and even harder to find people who didn't pay attention to the doctrines the farther you go up the IQ and social spectrum.

If this were just about shekels, it could be countered. After all, our great immigration pause happened in an era when there were far fewer controls on wealth than there are today (and was initiated by the Republicans, no less). But it isn't. It's far too vicious and deliberate for that. These people are ideological true believers because they come out of a system built by Juden

>the bourgeoisie is the middle class btw

the welder who makes 70k a year? yeah he's bourgeoisie btw

What third world nation, user? I don't know of any nation that has ever benefitted from communism.

>"muh" gorillonz
lol you think we give a shit ? your ideology murdered and famished your own people
you're basically niggers

I know. Personally I don't believe in Marx's classifications.

Like I said, my belief is that the true nobility are the rural land-owners and peasants, and the true degenerates worthy of slavery are the urban classes.

Rural > Urban.

Russia, retard.

>class realism
Betray your fatherland and folk for money? Why not reduce the distinctions between classes instead?

t.zionist shill

Communism has not happened yet.

Killed a 100 gorrillliioooon huh?

Your helicopter regime failed. East German leader Erich Honecker died of a natural death in Chile.

>Capitalism neglects famines worldwide, but hey, capitalists did nothing so it is not their fault

as someone who grew up in an Urban environment and now lives in a rural area I can tell you that the rural people of my nation at least are no better than niggers. Single mothers food stamps felonies and drug addiction.

how do you develop new means of production

>invades numerous countries and slaughters the populace for the sake of oil pipelines
>"YEAH B-B-B-BUT UHHHH MUH HOLOLDOMOR"

NazBol gang in the house tonight. Who here /fucking woke/?

>fuck their capitalist countries have great quality of life and wealth how can i even criticize them
>i know i'll just bring up shitholes filled with 99% niggers and/or islam that are incapable of progress unless colonized
wow you sure showed me soybitch

Why not produce an argument instead?

what it do comrade

>posts infographic

huuurrr muh argument. suck my dick, zionist

Class is insignificant. We should be suspicious of any "movement" which seeks to divert our attention towards this irrelevant early-20th century non-issue.

Imagine being unironically as class cucked as 99% of all the neoliberal jew cock suckers on here.

So it is okay to exploit you if the guy is the same race?

what a gay thing to say. liberals are gay

explain communism to me please. is it a system of governance in which all production is planned to specific already created industries in which all production is then evenly distributed?

>>posts infographic
those are for the lurkers, not for you.
You didn't address my contention; why not reduce the distinctions between classes instead of killing off the bourgeoisie? Make the bourgeoisie contribute to society or GTFO. Abolish all income that is not earned through work.
>zionist
I am firmly against the existence of the "state" of Israel, so I don't know what you're trying to imply.

I was a kid once so I can imagine LOL. know what im saying senpai?

Capitalism and all other Liberal-American systems are dead or have failed. As Communists gain traction we rather go on talking about the most useless of things. If you truly care about the White Race you would throw away your personal gripes in regards to economics. National Bolshevism is the way, White Man! Long live the Aryan internationale!

I love you Eddie Limonov! Keep up the good work!

nice format *tips fedorah* see this pic? its a soviet factory worker and his supervisor. notice anything? i like yr pic btw. i bet its accurate

The only thing communism ever accomplished was killing lots of white people

>exploit
That isn't the word I'd use.

Are you opposed to social hierarchy?

>The only thing communism ever accomplished was killing lots of white people
You misspelled fascism there, sweetie.

yeah think about all the whites the allied powers and the traitor hitler didnt kill in ww2. good point

Pol makes me more commie everyday

>Are you opposed to social hierarchy?
No, I am fine as long as they deserve to be in the top (not the case of capitalism obviously)

Yes, but were the white people killed degenerate or not?

come to the left side, brother!

>sweetie posting already
Even worse than that communism allowed jews to kill whites what an amazing idea lets try that again

remember all those goys that died in iraq for israel? that was communism's fault right? good point, based neoliberal incel

So what exactly is "Bolshevik" about your beliefs?

Opposition to capitalism doesn't make someone a Bolshevik.

>if you consume less than you produce you are a slave to the bourgeoisie
>"from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"
huh... it's almost as if... woah

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oh yeah you get the idea. communism isnt about liberating the value of your labor from your exploiter its just about not eating a lot is all.

>soldiers that volunteer dying in a war is the same as jews deliberately starving white people to death
kek

> /lFLS0EO
So obvious

Communism isn't a mere economic system. By definition Communism is a totalitarian ideology that wishes to create a society without individual economic expectations and without hierarchy (literally impossible as society in of itself is little more than a set of hierarchies) by making everyone equal in agency by distributing wealth evenly between every single individual despite their productivity. This is an ideology of greed as it comes from the ultimate notion of greed that is equality of outcome. To be rewarded without having to fulfill any societal exceptions, to be exulted despite producing little of value for your fellow man. These are the core motivations of Marxist Communist and it basically boils down to the right to be an utter degenerate and yet be rewarded for it. Not only is it bad enough that this ideology boils down to degeneracy but it also inevitably leads to the very thing its advocates so often love to preach against; an authoritarian state. Because Communism is a totalitarian ideology it needs to be enforced strictly upon all individuals in society and the end result is a life of moral, cultural and economic slavery. Communist states will see freewill crushed and removed and the will of the Marxist revolutionaries raised above all. Everyone classified, labeled and ultimately trapped in the roles these Marxist has chosen for them and yet it is the opposition to this that is so often painted as evil. Marxist ideologues forge their own chains and shackle as all.

I'm a NEET and I don't feel like I'm part of a class

nice redirect, zionist pig

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this is what they fail to understand.
>it wasn't real communism... after the government took all of the grain from the farmers, because they new better, and then everyone starved for... reasons...
the government trying to micromanage the distribution of assets is what gets millions of people killed every fucking time, and since that's a central tenet of their political ideology, it won't ever turn out a different way.

>communism isnt about liberating the value of your labor from your exploiter
>"from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"
>if you consume less than you produce you are a slave to the bourgeoisie
>"from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"
S-something's happening... my... my almonds they... they're... activating...

Class is not a relevant concept in the 21st century. Similar to how subdivisions within Christianity (i.e. conflict between Catholics and Protestants) are no longer relevant.

LARPing as "revolutionaries" seems to be the main attraction.

not
an
argument
>p p p please follow our jewish ideology white man promise you wont get genocided this time
good luck selling that terrible idea again

checked.

milton friedman

How could you come to that conclusion? There are reasons to support nationalism, and reasons to support socialism (read: NATIONALIZATION of industries, if you had trouble following how this relates to nationalism). It's the result of a totally different line of thought than Marxist communism.

I only had one you's in my last 6 or 7 posts

> took a peasant 3rd world nation and turned it into a world super power.
Except that's bullshit. Russia already had industry similar to that of North-West Europe. Then it was turned into a military superpower but an economic shithole where the average person was a fucking slave to the Soviet Elite. Marxism is an ideology practiced and praised by people who simply want to live like parasites, providing nothing of value and living off of the wealth of society so that they can only indulge themselves in hedonism. This is why Fascism is superior to Communism as Fascism recognizes the collective effort needed for prosperous society.

>pretends to understand terminology
>thinks bourgeois is middle class
lol, faggot.

t. NAZBOL GANG

I kinda wish we could get together on this. The 1% is 43% Jewish, so physical removal would benefit pretty much everybody involved.

As I understand it you're part of the reserves of the working class, basically they'll force you into work if you're absolutely needed but you're not working class at the moment

>communism isnt about liberating the value of your labor from your exploiter
>"from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"
>if you consume less than you produce you are a slave to the bourgeoisie
>"from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"
In other words no division of labor meaning everyone needs to be a garden variety farmer.
Except that isn't Marxism though. Marxism believes that everyone should be given equal wealth distribution despite their productivity.

Sad

NatSoc, fascism, franchoism, and so on.. created a a strong middle class. As socialism advances towards communism that middle class is weakened and its wealth is wiped out. Its money is stolen via (((inflation))), and their prospect is null.

In non jewish systems, people can jump from one class to another, so i would say that you are bluepilled and we're redpilled.

pay denbts, stop begging for (You)'s

Exactly right.

They hijacked Russia, friendo.

People are inequal. And that's great! There's nothing wrong with being inferior. The hobbling man is inferior to the man with good posture, doesn't mean he's bad!

You're forgetting (((debt)))

SMELLY DUMB

COMMIE SCUM

why hello, ah yes
same fagging for gommunism

Yeah its 100% garbage that leads your country to becoming a complete shithole.

Explain your retarded meme

Class is not inherently immoral, tbe proletariat and the like are in their class becsuse they are seldom good at anything other than being the proletariat. You movement, much like communism, is based upon false premises that heirarchies are immoral. Stop trying to make lambs i to lions, they have not the claws or the pride for it.

Unregulated capitalism is trash and communism is also trash. If you can't see this you are fucking retarded. Sweden or Germany without the immigrants and feminism would be great.

NazBol Gang

>based upon false premises that heirarchies are immoral.
no it's not. You are born into a class.
In modern society no one goes from being a hard worker to owning a multi-million dollar corporation.

Nazbols are trash. You guys realize they're against "xenophobia" right? How the fuck can you be a nationalist and against xenophobia? Nazbols are civic nationalism tier.