Seikaisuru Kado

Tsukai Saraka is goddess of our Universe!

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>It's not a first contact story anymore, rather some modern twist on mythological conflicts between gods.
Pretty much, it's about two gods fighting over the love of a mortal. Much like Adonis, Shindo can do nothing but get swept around.

was it rape

Yep but until now the gods made an effort to meet us on an equal standing, as shaky and illusional as that was. It was a nice premise, and one of the main appeals of the show for me. I was hoping it would remain that way. Instead we are in the same situation we would be in if a world go champion played a kid with a 15 stones handicap to balance things out, only to decide mid game he wants those stones back after all.

>Yep but until now the gods made an effort to meet us on an equal standing
You mean zaShunina did?
Hell no.
Only Tsukai did. zaShunina waltzed in in his fractal cube, started throwing out non-negotiable gifts and fucking with world order with no one to stop him.

A conflict between gods who behave increasingly more like superpowered humans. What I expect from a first contact scenario with a higher dimensional being is more like pic related, not this cliched trash. My first alarms went off when zaShunina explained his reasoning for choosing the Japanese people. By this point I can no longer take the writing seriously. Is zaShunina a human? Is he even a mammal? How then is he seemingly experiencing human feelings? His current form should have just been a facade to facilitate the negotiations. This is such a blatant case of anthropomorphism, and it is shame to see it go that way.

>Is zaShunina a human? Is he even a mammal?
He is outside-dimensional consciousness inhabiting human body, he created for easy interfacing with us. Watch the show and pay attention this time.

>started throwing out non-negotiable gifts
Yeah no, every single time zaShunina only manages to make the most of his gifts because he found humans who agreed with him and helped spread them for him. He never forced anyone even though he could have.

>How then is he seemingly experiencing human feelings?
He learned them by interacting with humans, pay attention. He didn't have them when he first incarnated. It came with time. Humanity is infectious is a fairly common trope.
Is it really so surprising that an information vampire would get corrupted by human information?

Fuck NO!
He spread WAM by showing people how to make it. Only one, ONE person had a say in that decision.
And spread of SANSA has maybe 5 (highly biased) people decide.
So no, take your head out of your ass for your retardation.
Yes, I'm mad.

What's going to happen to all of those Amish farmers and Amazon tribespeople out of the loop when everybody else gets dragged to Dimension 40?

Are humans being forced to make wam? No they aren't. The responsibility in the spread of wam is shared by both humanity and zaShunina.

It's amazing how fast a show can go from 7/10 to 5/10 with one episode.

This was said fucking million times in this thread, but I'm going to repeat it one more time for your retarded fucking brain to understand it:
Making WAM gives MASSIVE advantage. One can NOT NOT make WAM, as it would highly disadvantage him against those that do make WAM. So there is absolutely no choice in making WAM, the moment you know how to make it.

Same shit with SANSA. The moment it is revealed to some people, other become so disadvantaged, that they HAVE to use it.

Why would anything happen to them? If anything, life would be easier for them.

He has a human body and emotions are products of the human brain. Provided he created his body with some degree of fidelity, of course he's experiencing human emotions.

I know, I was on the other side of the debate once. I just think you're a little too bent on dumping all the responsibility on zaShunina.

>I just think you're a little too bent on dumping all the responsibility on zaShunina.
I am, because I know it is possible for anisotropic to understand humans without fucking up our society in the process.

And there is no excuse for zaShunina to not do just that.

I found her backstory genuinely cool. Too bad this series is so short that it felt so abrupt to drop that twist.

Go away Tsukai, nobody likes you. The gaylien is much, much cuter than you are, or will ever be.

You could feel his heart break in that scene ;_;

It is a shit trope. There's nothing exceptional about humans and every sci-fi story that uses this as a plot device is automatically shit in my book. Like I said, human feelings are rooted in our biology. The anisotropic beings are able to scan humans and understand what makes them tic, like taking apart a machine. We can study a lesser animal's behavioural patterns and learn how to deal with them, without "getting infected" by them. I don't suffer from dissoaciative disorders when I study combustion engines or migratory patterns.

Saraka has a human body, having been born from a human mother. ZaShunina appears to be a simple vessel for the anisotropic being's will, like a puppet. He also states that she has been weakened by her condition while he remains in full control.

Inhabiting a lesser lifeform body and being subjected to its shortcomings is another can of worms altogether. Like the notion of a human swapping bodies with a bird, and somehow remaining himself while at the same time being affected by a bird's instincts. A bird's brain can't hold a human consciousness, so where is it located? It is spiritualist bullshit of the highest order, separating mind and body and treating it as an interchangeable thing. Meanwhile, the idea of zaShunina's appearance being purely a creation for the purpose of communication makes way more sense.

What really broke me is pic related. He was genuinely hurt Shindo would oppose him.

>There's nothing exceptional about humans
I don't see how humans being exceptional or not has anything to do with this trope. If you lived with ancient romans for a while, maybe you'd take up the habit of eating while lying on a couch. When you put tea in a glass of water the tea will seep into the water. We ourselves and the place we live in are continuously exchanging information, we are shaped by the world we live in and the people living around us as much as we shape them.
It's just that zaShunina was so very far removed from us, that his development comes as spectacular.

I'm glad i didn't drop it. Show is a mess though.

>zashunina will never wake up wearing nothing but Shindo's shirt on his shoulders

DO NOT LEWD THE GODDESS!

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is seikaisuru kado still the smartest show this season?

It is.
But I guess that is not saying much, considering this season is full of shit.

But it has GOTS.

There is an attempt. Which is more than can be said of other shows this season.

Any chance of the show redeeming itself in the last two episodes?

Yes, if and happen.

for retards like you probably not

If the Shindo with Tsukai is a clone then where's the original? (Or the clone that's the closest to the original)

I really hope it's a clone because I can forgive ep 10 if that's the case.

Is this the closest we will get to an Eien no Aselia anime?
That thing does not count

>nothing exceptional about humans
If humans were the ultimate "thread" that zaShunina was talking about last episode, then why did Saraka decide to descend to our dimension before earth was even formed?

What actually caught the anisotropic beings' attention? It didn't seem like they had had a non-linear time perspective from the way they spoke.

Another thing to add is what was Saraka planning on doing after mankind dies out?

Based on the timing of her arrival, there's almost the implication that she's the trigger, intentional or not, for life on earth.
So maybe all of this is her little side experiment within the cocoon.

Saraka was always a horn dog when it came to cocoons. She's the local cocoon slut and can't get enough of that tasty nonlinear data.

>This sandbox is mine!
>*rages and throws toys at Yan-hakui*

So what's she going to do when the sun turns into a red giant?

Here's the thing about the anisotropic. Once you KNOW that humanity is fun and does fun things, all you have to do is copy-pasta the basic template to any other cocoon and let 'er rip.

How "natural".

Some might care, some might not. zaShunina clearly doesn't care. This way he can have all the husbandous for his fill.

We were talking about Tsukai werent we?

Would Shindo have accepted his proposal had zaShunina not nearly killed him?

Threadly reminder that this is a rendition of The Heart of Darkness and Saraka is Kurtz.

Hard to say. He probably would have wanted more information about what it would entail first.

Why was Lem's book so godly compared to this shit? The hallucinations actually gave me chills.

I know the chances of it happening are in the negatives, but how would you react if it was a double-bait and switch?
The fujobait of Shindo and zaShunina getting switched for Tsukai, which in turn gets switched to threesome ending?
Just hypothetically.

Target audience

>probably wanted more information

I would shrug. The damage is already done.

>too much information for a 3D being to process
>can't decide without more information
Catch 22.

Such a lust for information

Sweet, sweet information.

Faggots bumping dead thread of shit show on the 10th page. Truly disgusting.

Oh the irony.

Sff all has the one target audience. And Evangelion was pretty similar to Watts' Blindsight and Solaris. Are there any more books like those two?

Ask /lit/

I think I've honestly exhausted them. The last time someone asked it

Then ask /m/. They are a slow board, but one with superior taste.
Really enjoyed this one

What are you talking about, fag? Open your eyes and let this shit thread die.

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>shindo slowly scoots away from the naked sleeping chestnut

shit get it together shindo-kun

He's regretting his decision of rejecting zaShunina.

Awesome.

These kind of oversensitive rotten fujos are cancer, they come in and ruined our comfy threads. I define them as a low ranking species same as of those of narutards.

>threesome ending
Glorious
>harem ending with them, the clones and the anisotropes
Even better

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If ZaShunia wants to bathe in information he can't process he should just pay a visit to /d/