So whats Sup Forums's Real Political affiliation No Fascist/nazi memery

So whats Sup Forums's Real Political affiliation No Fascist/nazi memery.
> mutualist.

Darwinism.

Libertarian Humanist

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National Seperatist.

Republican, through and through. I even was the captain for the George W Bush team in my 5th grade debate back in 2000.

Moral nihilist

Right leaning centerist

>no memery
>mutualist

Hating Niggers

Holy Imperial Ancapism

Reactionary

National Socialist
also, from wikipedia:
"Mutualism is based on a labor theory of value that holds that when labor or its product is sold, in exchange it ought to receive goods or services embodying "the amount of labor necessary to produce an article of exactly similar and equal utility".

"If a farmer should ask me what is the value of the goods that he produces, I should reply, the value of the work that they enable a town labourer to do." - Adolf Hitler

Really makes you think, doesn't it mutualist?

>King, Son, and divine subject of tera.

Conservative - mostly free market economy, tight border control, race realist, nuclear family idealist.

Ok? alot of socialist schools of thought believe in a labor theory of value.Mutualism is labor+utility so not only does labor determine price but Its usefullness aswell.
Mutualism is Far from a meme ideollogy my friend, Prodhon Influenced Not only leftist Thinkers But Right wing Thinkers such as rothbard.

question: can nihilists believe in a god?, I'm very interested in The subject of Existential thought.

Libertarian leaning conservative that votes Republican.

My political views boil down to "The right to swing my fist ends, where another man's nose begins."

So whats with the Leftist anarchist flag?

Bump/

Classical liberal with some socialist leanings, but estranged from the postmodern left

whats your socialist leanings?

I support workers' ownership and self-management of enterprises that (hopefully) replaces wage labor with profit-sharing in the future

Same, except I believe that Individuals should also Have be able to own a means of production Individually managing through Freelancers to avoid exploitation. It sounds like your views are very Mutualist in nature.

This is my 8 values thing, feel free to post your own.

I see nothing wrong with individual freelancers either, as long as they're not causing trouble for anyone else. I haven't heard much about mutualism though.

It's a less well Known School of anarchism, however, it is The Original anarchy since Proudhon who created the Philosophy Was the first to call himself an anarchist. The "paris commune" had some Mutualist Based ideologies.

Constitutional Capitalist Libertarian Nationalist.

People tell me you can't be Libertarian and Nationalist at the same time. To those people I say: ...lol wut

You could think of it as a cross between Anarcho-syndicalism and Anarcho-capitalism.

Economically, I'm a syndicalist.

Socially, I genuinely don't give a shit what other people do as long as they don't hurt me or other people.

Oh you can Just not a Racial nationalist Like a white nationalist for instance.

so how the Hell are you Going to distribute Goods without a Free market.

Sadly people now associate Nationalism with Nazism which is laughable. Liberal programming at work to be honest.

Friggin Nerds

Yeah, sucks my dood.

Agorist Libertarian.
>black markets matter
>worker owned Private Military Corporations
>overwatching my gay friend's wedding with an AR10 and a thicc blunt
>ain't nobody's business if I do
>fistful of Ameros

I'm a former Agorist myself, I Think that agorist tactics could be used by Mutualists to Push towards an anarchist society.

Also
>personal nuclear weapons
>Libertarian Girls are born not raised
>seasteading in outer space in the sea of red communist blood

Bump./ This is a Nice thread, good Job guys Keeping shit civil.

Monarchism

I said no Memery.

>An ideology which was the norm for almost all of human history in every single civilization is a meme
Monarchies still exist even in the modern era user.

Doesn't mean That's a good thing, people cannot handle Power. Fuck hierarchy.

Baby eating Nazi Fascist monster.

>Rejecting hierarchy
You must abandon egalitarianism if you expect a functional stability to last. Your ideology is a fantasy, one which will never come true. Equality is not real, hierarchy and competition are two of the most fundamental natural laws of our world.

Additionally : Which is more likely, finding a single philosopher king among your population, or every single member of your society having the abilities of a philosopher king consistently? Democracy is always doomed to fail, the peasants cannot lead themselves

I don't really know. I'm more concerned with culture.

Nice meme

sure. Kings are not better than The peasants and yes we can govern ourselves.

DAMN NIGGA, YOU GOT BTFO

>We're all equal bro, we don't need any leaders
This does not exist/happen, even in the animal/plant kingdoms does this happen. If the role of leader is perceived by a population as being empty, it will be fought over. Society is based upon multiple levels of hierarchy itself, family unit, tribal unit (hierarchy of families) nation (hierarchy of tribes) the individual and the collective are intertwined, not separate. Like both nature and nurture being required to make an individual, both individualism and collectivism is required to make a society. If you reject this, it's because you do not understand the world you live

Monarchist

Those are social Hierarchies which are impossible to abolish my Beef is with Governmental Hierarchies.

>all fringe political beliefs that were posted, never held an ounce of power and never will

Technocratic capitalist society ruled by AIs.

> somebody hacks the ai's

Good luck not getting annexed by your neighbors. Centralized authority is always stronger than decentralized authority.

>a bunch of soyim with joywires jacked into their brains streaming rick and morty reruns in a hive city of medical cubicles keeping them alive and flooded with dopamine until the sun burns out
no thank you

>Okay, I agree with social hierarchy, but not government
Government is a reflection of society. Nation vs Country vs State. A nation is a people, their culture, a state is their government, a country is the nation, state, and borders thus. In any model which utilizes egalitarianism, it's a constant fight for whose on top. As a result everyone suffers, constant disorder. In a monarchy, stability and order can be maintained.

Just racebaiting shitposts, mostly. I actually didn't vote.

> implying that if everyone was armed This wouldnt be a Problem.
> There would be a Gun behind every blade of grass.

Social democrat with authoritarian tendencies.

Government/corporations are based on coercive means.

there isn't a line in that post that isnt degenerate.

whoops to the gas chamber you go m8

>we're all better off this way

> No Fascist/nazi memery.

far left : muh corporations :: far right : muh joos

What if i'm not memeing and i unironically support National Socialism?

If everyone is armed, the thing to then do is form a group. Four people join together to easily take down the single people only working in their best interest. This is the very idea behind societal development, coming together for mutual gain. The stages of societal development/evolution : Individual->Pack->Tribe->Town/village->City state->Multi-city country->regional power-Continental power-Multi->continental power->Multi-continental power(Highest ever recorded by history)->Planetary power->Multi-planetary power->Solar system power etc etc
>Gun behind every blade of grass
Last I heard that quote was fake

> Far Left
Mutualism is center left-tard.

Government is a means of ruling a nation, corporations are means for families within the nation to compete for power/influence.

If the AIs are all powerful , then good luck. You can hack the AI and cause a bit of discord yes. If the AIs are benevolent, no sane person will take your side. And when you get caught, which you will as it's a fucking computer (probably outmatches your processing capabilities to act in a 1:3x10^30 scale), you are gone. Dissidents shouldn't be respected in such a society. And I'd only be okay with that if it was a model democratically decided upon (a.k.a the government allows people initially to vote on whether the AI should rule or not), which it will never be because people will never admit to being useless.
It's the only way. Other anons already pointed out "humans 're bad mkay?" In this thread. No real system ruled by any individual will be successful and everyone knows it. If we built machines to do what our rulers do, make judgement calls upon societal problems, then AIs would be the future.

The quote is still very much valid. I can tell you How Government started, it started with some Group of Cavemen bullying and stealing some other cavemans shit.

And what if i were to agree with him? Frankly most of Hitler's policys were fundamentally sound.

> when memearchies are literally families competing for power.

Literal Nazi
Done stuff irl

time is money. not all time is equal.

>america vs the middle east
I mean you'll win but its Pyrrhic.

>The quote is still valid
Not really, an organized military will always out match individuals, even individual home steads which're armed. This reality was part of why the city states/kingdoms of Europe started giving more power to centralized governments in the first place (Mongol invasions).
>Government started by bullying
The first form of government would be a family, the father is in charge of the wive and kids. After that it would be tribe, the chieftain and his family is in charge of the other tribal families and so on. Hierarchy is inevitable, the goal is to ensure that the hierarchy is based upon merit so it's naturally eugenic (the cream of the crop rise to the top, and out breed the less capable families). Currently our societies success is based upon sociability (picture a nation wide pre school where talking and emotional appeals get you ahead)

accidental meme flag

this isnt memery. and that's why you'll lose the test of time :^)

>fffffffffffffaggot

twice

>openly center-left
>xD guise im le radical alt center!
>gas the gas! Solar power NAO!
You can go euthanize yourself tbqh famalam

Revolutionary nationalist.

Yes as illustrated above, that's what it comes down to. Families competing for power, with individuals of those families determining the success of the family. The same way higher levels of societal development are larger units of hierarchy competing with one another within the larger whole. You should read into complex systems theory, it helps illustrate this process and has been quite useful in population studies.

Also , do keep in mind that if we make AIs based upon quantum computing ( which is the way to make actual decent AIs) , then it's gg for any hacker out there. This would make the AIs literally impossible to crack and would allow them to completely outmatch you if you tried to escape. Anonymity would be a joke to the AIs in that world, and since your average fedora tipper on the internet deeply regards it and desperately needs it, they would be DOA.

Far Right Orthodox Christian Chauvinist.

Egalitarianism inevitably leads to hyper-individualism. When you teach people they are all the same, no person is more/less important then others. You severe the times individuals have to their hierarchies. You tell them that their family members, their tribal members, their community, is no more important then a stranger half way across the world. The root of practically all of our societies problems is the egalitarian ideology.

minarchist

> Implying Individuals cant form a militia
Trust me dood Families didnt start Government it was coercion. What you say may be true however anarchists are only concerned with when a family decides to Have control over another one.

Paleoliberal

G'night Sup Forums Love you guys.

Of course they can. Stop believing the gods must have the atrributes atrributed to him by the major monotheistic religions.

But none of this has anything to do with existentialism.

Right Leaning Libertarian with some aspects of Race realism.

>Implying a militia lacks hierarchy
Falls apart quickly if no one is drawing up plans, taking charge.
>Families didn't start government
Government - The rules/laws governing a society
Society - Families coming together for mutual gain
Libertarianism/Anarchy are reactionary ideologies, they appeal to people who perceived the social contract as being broken. In their mind their better off alone, without the society. The "mutual gain" part is no longer true
It's why the Libertarians and fascists of Sup Forums get along so well. Under a competent ruler, where the social contract was being fullfilled. I'd wager most if not all the Libertarians/anarchists would go full fascist/monarchist.

Good night user, sleep well, thanks for the discussion

Finally an anarchist I can converse with peacefully.

For me, it’s right leaning centrism