Why hasn’t anybody ever been able to conquer this nation?

Why hasn’t anybody ever been able to conquer this nation?

Can I get a QR on Afghanistan?

Fuck no...terrain is way to rugged. It's also strange that the longest war in US history gets zero media attention.

Because there’s nothing worth conquering over there to put in real effort and money other than mudslimes with commie gear.

> Afghanistan
> nation
> being this naive in current year.

>Speaks Iranian language
>Was conquered by the Greeks and part of the Greco-Bactrian Kingdom
>Was successfully islamicized
>Kushans and Mongols both conquered it
>Brits get heavy resistance and so do the Soviets, "Hurr dur it's always been the graveyard of Empires!"

Afghanistan is literal Tatooine nothing of worth to conquer

Land of the afghan people

Define conquer. We went over there and had full freedom of movement and could basically kill whoever we wanted without repercussion. We controlled their state apparatus, their police, and their army and huge portions of their population were entirely dependent on our hand outs. By the time we started pulling out we were almost exclusively fighting foreign imports funneling in through Pakistan.

there isn't a good reason to.

its not really a war. It's like the roman occupation of Britain

The will of ALLAH

>being this delusional

Lol if you think Afghanistan is one people, and not dozens of totally different people (ethnicity, tribe, sect) being forced into the nationstate-meme by the globalists. Try to tell a Pashtun that they are the same people as the Hazara, and you'll find out what they think of your "land of the Afghan people" concept.

It's hard to know when you've destroyed an empire of dirt.

The afghan people have the strongest will, and faith too, allah helped them.

get off jew land
allah doesn't exist except in cartoons

Infidel scum

Go fuck yourself kike

What do you mean? We've been conquering them for the past 15 years. We're occupying them solely to protect poppy plants, not democracy.

Are you gonna say that Belgium is the land of the "Belgian" people?

US already conquered it, then the NeoCon cucks fucked it all up by not appointing a turbo dictator to rule with an iron fist. Instead they laughably thought they could just have elections like it was Tel Aviv or something.

Seems like most are generly redpilled on this one.
Not one people, worthless terrain, unconquerable paper people with endless generations of war strife and no education.

Lots of important mineral deposits that need to be exploited still.

TAJIKISTAN I SUMMON YOU TO BE ADDED MY COLECTION

Fucking paki scum come here so i can behead u

Fucking banchod cunt

go and see for yourself

Those deposits were already sold off to China, the corrupt regime at the time took a deposit and it's spent years ago. Obama was caught sleeping when it happened, literally the last lithium deposits on Earth for Elon Kike's Tesla empire, he's stuck buying from China now.

dude you are forgetting that when mongols and greeks fell coincided with their retreat from afganistan
it trully is a graveyard of empires

>succesfully islamicized

you are forgeting chile and bolivia

Funny thing is that all are the same brown shit

Because it's a piece of shit. Seriously. They're all retarded Muslims.

We should have gone to war with Saudi Arabia. You know, the people responsible.

>phonefag
It's the flag for Muslim in Sup Forums, not the geoflag of Pakistan.
Explain the green areas saying Taliban.

Its not really a 'nation', its every tribe for itself spread across a ragged landscape.

Could it be conquered, maybe, if you went full Rome and killed all the men and repopulated sections of it.

Would it be worth the effort? No.

This country is the just the battleground for rich countries and their proxy armies.

Your not at all wrong.
However there is still a lot more there, Li as well as REE which are there in higher concentrations than previously thought.

People all talk about uranium 1 when this was a far bigger crime. As usual obongo stealths it in

I've been there 4 times and getting ready to head out on my 5th tour here in a few weeks. I have deep insight on this place. For starters, to say no one has conquered it is untrue, plenty of empires have wrecked this place, such as the Persians, Greeks, Kushans, Arabs, Mongols and Sikhs. Around the 1800s the Brits and Russians fought there, but it was basically just a blocking move to prevent an invasion into India and simply wasn't worth putting any effort into holding. The Soviets got their asses kicked in what was essentially a proxy war with the US, who were propping up the mujahadeen. That and the Soviet Union was already in the decline and the Soviet people were protesting the strategically futile war while there were problems at home to tend to.

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In this current war:

1. Our main problem is that there is simply way too much territory to cover and not enough assets or troops to completely stamp out the Taliban... at least not without causing huge amounts of civilian casualties.
2. The tribal mentality of the ANA and government forces as a whole prevents a strong unified effort to protect the entire country.
3. The ANA leaders are Soviet/Afghan war vets who are clinging on to power and doing everything they can to hold down promising new military leaders (i.e., the ones who can actually operate a computer).
4. The ANA is pathetically equipped. I've watch countless times as poor ANA soldiers use radio shack tier metal detectors to try to find IEDs, which usually doesn't end well. They have propeller planes that we gave them that have no optical systems or guided munitions (basically just useless 250lb dumb bombs). They have an intel data base that looks like Windows 3.1 mixed with Netscape.
5. Afghan people do not see corruption like we do. I was a pay agent once, paying Afghan contractors for work we asked them to do, like rebuilding roads. I would pay the foreman a huge stack of bills, he would skim a bunch off the top, then short change his 50+ workers. Nobody complained because they wanted to BE that guy skimming the money off the top one day and didn't want that job to go away.
6. Lack of means for paying troops timely. Because they don't really have electronic fund transfer like we have, the Afghan police have to be paid with huge wads of cash... and when that huge wad doesnt arrive, they dont get paid, and when they dont get paid they go to the people who actually have money (Taliban).
7. ANA are very cowardly. They will very often bury their weapons so they are not seen with them by Taliban and killed. They come back later for them and dig them up and either go back to work or sell them.
8. Nepotism abounds at every level of government.

Insufficient desire

9. The corps level ANA and provincial leaders have a tendency to strong arm US forces into wasting time applying assets and resources to protecting their family compounds, which are usually in areas of no strategic value (Daykundi province is a good example).
10. Porous border with Pakistan and remnants of the Durand line allow for fighters to come and go as they please, while international forces are heavily restricted.
11. Massive reluctance on US commanders to cause collateral damage, especially after incidents like the 2015 Doctors Without Borders.
12. Some countries in the coalition who are in charge of operations (Italy for example) have zero interest in conducting offensive operations, so huge swaths of the country are in Taliban control with no deterrence.
13. Many residents don't see the Taliban as the 'bad guys' like we do. Not even really as freedom fighters. They're just seen as other muslims and not really worth fighting over.
14. Many more residents get BTFO by the Taliban if they are suspected of supporting the government in anyway.

O.G. Arayn hillbillies

It's extremely remote, requiring invading countries to project power with long supply lines. Also modern democratic powers don't have the willpower needed to thoroughly conquer a country. If America had the will, they could easily kill everyone in Afghanistan and repopulate it.

Interesting stuff, thanks

No they didn't. Maybe for Alexander, but the Mongols weren't crushed by the Afghans. The meme literally came out in the 19th Century, prior to that it was just "The Highway of Invasion" because every freaking Horde from Central Asia would pass through to fuck shit up in Europe and the Middle East.

This meme only entered popular consciousness because of the Soviet invasion and the CIA pouring billions of dollars in revenge for Vietnam.

They are like tajiks.
Tajiks is worst subhuman shit on the moscow.
No one needs shitfull medievial country.

What makes tajiks different from the average churka

Worse than Chechens? What's the ranking of Churkas? Who is the worst?

You think I don't fucking know that greatest ally?

Redundant. Poverity, Disease, Civilization, social and mental advancement have all conquered Afghanistan. Invading them would just be running up the score.

cause they hide in the caves till we run out of bombs and it winds up costing too much

then when we go home they claim victory,we could nuke them and win tho

Dumbass. You think any country is different?

The British defeated them. Look up Durand Line.

Don't forget natural resources and the flow of the same.

Is America anything more than a meme nation full of different tribes that really don't like each other?

Japan is almost entirely ethnic Japanese people. I guess you could be pedantic and say different tribes and subdivisions of Japanese but they’d all call themselves ethnic Japanese.

This is correct. The area of what is today called Afghanistan has either been a backwater dump on the outskirts of great empires (Achaemenid/Persia), a speed bump for the Mongols or the stepping stone to legitimate riches and wealth of India. For the Soviets it was essentially their Vietnam (multiple external forces propping up the technologically inferior goat herders while the populace back at home protested).

Tell a Taiwanese that they're japanese or vice versa. Tell a Dominican that they're Puerto Rican or vice versa. It's just where the arbitrary line fell. In Afghanistan it just so happened that a lot of people willing to kill fell within the same plinko made borders. Take a bunch of LA niggers and give them guns and take some Jasper, TX rednecks and give them guns and tell them to live together peacefully. It won't happen.

>not able to conquer

that's an unfortunate choice of colour

This is why they should've brought back the monarchy, a king is the only person with historical precedent over the territory and its disparate peoples

garbage terrain infested with locals who dont give a fuck about losses. Vietnam was the same problem, except jungle instead of mountains

/thread

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Chechens is other sort of chooorkas. They are sholud be genocided to, but tajiks like crawling crap. Also afgans and tajiks this is one ethnos, but divided between afhan and ussr.

Hazaras are chinks. They found a Bruce Lee look-alike who was Hazara, i have no clue how these dudes wound up in afghanistan

But their state apperatus is basically just a proxy for corrupt child rapists and Islamists anyway. Half of the military and police have Islamist sympathizers. The Pakis are only supporting the interests of local guerillas.

Lmao

But seriously though, Afghanistan should belong to India and promptly renamed to Gandhara. It was a prosperous, civil nation state during Mauryan rule.

Lol khazars was shitskins, but not chinks
Also Atilla the hoon was khazar.

A bit of history:

>Gandhara existed since the time of the Rigveda (c. 1500–1200 BC),[1][2] as well as the Zoroastrian Avesta, which mentions it as Vaēkərəta, the sixth most beautiful place on earth, created by Ahura Mazda. Gandhara was conquered by the Achaemenid Empire in the 6th century BC. Conquered by Alexander the Great in 327 BC, it subsequently became part of the Maurya Empire and then the Indo-Greek Kingdom. As a center of Bactrian Zoroastrianism, Hinduism[3], and later, Greco-Buddhism, and famed for its local tradition of Gandhara (Greco-Buddhist) Art, Gandhara attained its height from the 1st century to the 5th century under the Kushan Empire. Gandhara "flourished at the crossroads of Asia," connecting trade routes and absorbing cultural influences from diverse civilizations; Buddhism thrived until 8th or 9th centuries, when Islam first began to gain sway in the region.[4]

Historically only Turk Dynasties (Timurid and Mughal) and Alexander tG were able to annex Afghanistan.

Tajiks are a major ethnic group in Afghanistan so some are actually Tajiks

It's not a nation.

So you conquered the city of Kabul, who cares? The goat farmer 40 miles away doesn't care. That's not his capital and he doesn't take orders from them. The other goat farmer 75 miles away in the mountains doesn't care either. He's never been to Kabul and doesn't know anyone who has. He's never even heard the word Afghanistan before. He has no concept of such a nation. He lives on his tribe's lands the way they have for a thousand years. Only outsiders think Afghanistan is a nation or Afghanis are a people. No one who lives there believes this. It's hundreds of different tribal families living in isolated valleys.

Because there's nothing there.

Same reason Rome could never conquer Germania.

This. Supply lines and logistics are the lifeforce of any war. Couple that with the fact that it is a worthless shithole full of a bunch of dumb radical goat farmers who hate everyone.

The poo menace strikes again

What is there to be conquered? Afghanistan was a red herring.

marine here been there both on the supply pog side and the infantry mountain patrol side.

the reason no one has been able to "conquer" afghanistan is because there is nothing TO conquer.

-the country does not exist in the eyes of its people
-the people are nomadic and or tribal who claim allegiance to their tribes or towns.
-the government cant even control its people not even kidding.
-the taliban couldnt even control its people
also not kidding
-the most civilized parts of the country do not even acknowledge the rest of it, afghanistan may as well be 1 city.
-as much as people want to claim the terrain makes it difficult, it is a fault. the IDEA is the reason

TL;DR you cant conquer something that doesn't exist or is theoretical.

for all intents and purposes afghanistan is a theoretical country.

shouldnt be difficult for a modern nation to conquer afghanistan if they really wanted. the problem is you would have to ethnically cleanse the country by replacing their population with your own like the soviets did in east prussia after the second world war.

Arabs conquered it, and spread shitslam there.

Lost me at
>US has any interest in stamping out CIA's Taliban front

Rome never conquered Germania because Caeser never gave it a real shot. His playtime ventures whipped their ass lol.

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this is the collection of real reasons.
notice the pattern of afghanistan doesnt exist
and also notice
the people of afghanistan do not acknowledge each other

everything else is just icing on the cake.

Imagine a continuous range of Mountains and Valleys that you can't just roll tanks through like Poland, add a dedicated Guerrilla force, who is willing to go to extreame lengths to protect their land. Thease Afghani also know every foot of the Mountains the Caves, and the Valleys.

Unless your going to just glass the whole country its pretty much impossible to hold without suffering heavy losses

Do you see how many Stans they’re with? Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikastan, Pakistan. No matter you throw at Afghanistan the message is clear: they’ll with-Stan anything.

Ask those that can’t Stan it what happened to them and they’ll tell you: “I ran.”

Doesn’t anybody look at maps anymore?

Soviet tajiks had the schools, hospitals, education and government. Afganian tajics has not. Feel the different between native goatfuckers and little more civilised goatfuckers. Also, both of them has iodine deficient.

Spain is the only country capable of actual conquest, and they haven’t tried to yet

shut up you greek fuck

pay debt

Fuck off leaf

because it's like herding mentally retarded cats who sometimes explode.

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