Why should I trust you guys on anything when you get Socialism/Communism/Marx so wrong...

Why should I trust you guys on anything when you get Socialism/Communism/Marx so wrong. I've read Marx and other socialist thinkers and have looked at the history. I know what it means. Why do you guys try to be an authority when you are you obviously so wrong?

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Venezuela.
But I'd let her convince me with that mouth of hers.

Here is a (You) for those milkers

In Venezuela the workers don't own the means of production and the economy is dominated by private business. In what does that sound socialist?

Real life isn't a book OP

Private property is a good thing.

The community is nothing without the free expression and autonomy of the individual. Collectivism fucking sucks.

>her

>free expression and autonomy of the individual together
see doesnt socialism sound nice

Do these girls realise the lighting from a monitor makes their caked-on foundation that much more obvious

GREEN HERB THAT GOES WITH CHICKEN THIS THREAD - OP'S JUST SEEKING ATTENTION.

>seeking attention
>debating retards
which one is it

I would give one of my legs to fuck kalindrachan not going to lie

Communism is global
One big reason to hate it

me too

but your fake is fake I mean obviously your opinion will be fake too. you're not even trying

*fleg

My opinion is fake but I have 230 replies. I must be a real dedicated memer huh.

She probably only has like 2 years of makeup experience.

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Hahahahah!
>that wasn't real socialism!
Hahaha goddamn, the memes write themselves

nice job arguing against what I said. I'm sure you have something.

>we need a central bank that controls credit
Communism is nothing more than crony capitalism on steroids.

>the history
>not retarded
Pick one broseph

it's how you socialise.

Cool story. I don’t consent. So what are you gonna do then?

Dude just be honest that it's Jews who are the real bourgeois and maybe we can agree.

you arent wrong

The subject of the crown still misses the point, 250 years later.

What did they do during the French and American Revolution?

Hahahahaha
>not real communism
>not real socialism
Please enlighten me

Why do you try to be an authority on capitalism when you are obviously so wrong?

Every socialist I meet, is fucking poor and has no skills that actually serve the community. And yet, they want to be rich. But they're really just fighting so everyone can be as poor and miserable as them.

>I know what it means
Do you, do you really? So why are you a communist then?

Don't listen to me. Listen to Karl Marx friend
>"What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money."

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You seem a LOT more invested in this (making b8 threads and pointlessly arguing with people who respond to you) than any one else here or in your other thread.

Is it our validation you seek or are you just so mentally ill and devoid of purpose that you actively seek out to do this sort of thing?

TO ANYONE ELSE IN THIS THREAD - PIC RELATED..

Socialism is economic system where workers own the means of production

Communism is a political, philospohical, and economic system which is a stateless,classless,moneyless socialist society.

Socialism has existed but not in the places you think. Communism hasn't existed.

We're obviously not wrong though, if we were wrong then socialism wouldn't be so obviously shit. You clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about and have obviously only ever read what socialist have said about socialism. Saying "that's not real socialism" which will inevitably be said at some point in this thread just goes to show how zealous and utterly in denial you are. If socialism actually worked then you and all of your talentless faggy friends would go out and start a business, paying "fair wages" instead of the market value, but you don't because you can't, and therein lies the problem: humans are not equal, trump, bill gates, Elon musk, they're all better than you, they can all produce more value than you, it's just that all lefties have massive egos so you can't admit it

I don't try to be an authority on capitalism.

Sargon of Akkad already destroyed communism in its entirety. It can't ever work.

I want to convert Nazis to Communism and also make my debating skills the best they can be.

Give some of his arguments

All fucking commies must fucking hang.
>in all fields

Oh yeah pffft, where then? Somewhere that isn't a shithole?

Because I'll tell you somewhere cool where capitalism has existed. The moon.

Your freedom to die for Israel is unmatched.
I salute you brave proud independent Americans.

That's all he had to say. You'll claim it all wasn't real socialism till we all get tired of laughing at your normie-meme of an ideology. Unless you think you could create a better "communist" system without having a power hungry general shoot you in the head and take over... Good luck you poor deluded soul

It's hard for socialism to exist because every time it does it gets bombed to shit by every existing capitalist country. Do you honestly think it has any chance. Anyways here.

New Harmony, Indiana (1825–1827)
Oberlin Colony (1833-1843)
Utopia, Ohio (1844-1856)
Socialist Community of Modern Times (1851-1864)
The Paris Commune (1871)
Home, Washington (1895-1919)
Equality Colony (1900-1907)
Strandzha Commune (1903)
Saint Petersburg Soviet (1905)
The Soviet Union (1917-1918)
Alsace-Lorraine Soviet Republic (1918)
Spartacist uprising (1918-1919)
Free Territory of Ukraine (1918-1921)
Hungarian Soviet Republic (1919)
Bavarian Soviet Republic (1919)
Limerick Soviet (1919)
Bremen Soviet Republic (1919)
Biennio Rosso (1919-1920)
Ruhr Uprising (1920)
Kronstadt rebellion (1921)
Life and Labor Commune (1921-1937)
Anarchist Shinmin (1929-1932)
Revolutionary Spain (1936 – 1939)
Peasants Associations in Korea (1945-1950)
Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (1945–1992)
Rural China (1948-1950)
Hungarian Revolution (1956)
May 1968 events in France (1968)
Czechoslovakia under Dubček / Prauge Spring (1968)
Chile during Allende's government (1970-1973)
Jamacia under Manley (1972-1980)
New Jewel Movement / PRG in Greneda (1973-1983)
Seychelles under René (1977-2004)
People's Republic of Kampuchea (1979–1989)
Marinaleda, Spain (1979-Present)
Burkina Faso under Sankara (1983-1987)
Rebel Zapatista Autonomous Municipalities (1994-Present)
Oaxaca Commune (2006)
Democratic Federation of Rojava – Northern Syria (2013-Present)

>fighting against a monarchy
>fighting against the fellow proletariat
Okay, so you kill me. Now you have to kill millions more to get your way. How many will have to die until you’ve reach “real communism”?

nice not arguing like he did

I'll play. Lets pretend, in your commieworld, that all of the sudden no one wants to be a garbage man. The existing garbage man force cannot keep up with the societal load. How do you handle this?
In capitalism, that work becomes more valuable to do, creating incentive.
How do commies deal with this?

Communism cannot exist, it's a retarded pipe dream for the weak and delusional

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Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism aggording to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run

away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD

Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
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>Girls

If socialism did happen in America it would be at the point when shit was going down. It won't build here. It will build in places like Rojava in Syria where the people are looking for something better.

Wow, a massive list of shit countries that fell to pieces

HAHAHAHA
And none of them exist today. Must be real great right? What a good idea! We just take all incentive to work or innovate away from peoplen and trust in them not to sit on their asses all day and collect gibs. When the economy is bad, we'll just print more money! Also, when exactly did a caoitalist country bomb Ohio? Pffft hahaha.

This is why only millenials side with you losers.

Give incentive however that may be. Have the worker girls suck garbage men dudes dicks.

you didn't make a real argument once, so I don't have to either bud. Sitting back to laugh at you. Saged

After being bombed by bigger capitalist countries and not by the economy failing.

1. Communism necessarily requires violence to succeed, so thus you cannot vote in communism without literally being as bad as the Nazis.
2. Communism is just bringing everyone down to a lower level instead of trying to bring the lowest of society to a higher level
3. The rich have rights, too, so you can't just punish them for being rich
4. Communism deincentivizes innovation and hard work
5. Communist systems are impossible because you always have to have a ruling class to uphold the laws. That means that unless we can abolish all governments, true communism would be impossible.

In other words you have to live in deplorable conditions to want socialism others nobody would be so delusional to want it

3 exist today.

> We just take all incentive to work or innovate away from peoplen and trust in them not to sit on their asses all day and collect gibs.

You obviously know what socialism is. Yes it's when the government does stuff

Well thats not fair, is it? Why am I doing my work and not getting free blowjobs?

Answer the question. How much death are you willing to tolerate to get your way?

>Communism is a political, philospohical, and economic system which is a stateless,classless,moneyless socialist society.

People aren't created equally. Communism is attempts to undo natural selection and ruins the gene pool. It's the reason the only white people that act like niggers are Russian.

By pointlessly arguing with other whiney hypocritical manchildren on an anonymous Bhutanese Latin Translators imageboard?

I think not m8. But you know,keep posting and keep looking for that validation. I'm sure one day you'll find someone here to fill that gaping vacuous hole inside you..

>. Communism necessarily requires violence to succeed, so thus you cannot vote in communism without literally being as bad as the Nazis.

What do you think about the violence that being done during the French and American revolutions?

> Communism is just bringing everyone down to a lower level instead of trying to bring the lowest of society to a higher level

Source?

> The rich have rights, too, so you can't just punish them for being rich

We aren't punishing them for being rich. We are punishing them for what they do to the working class.

> Communism deincentivizes innovation and hard work

Source?

>Communist systems are impossible because you always have to have a ruling class to uphold the laws. That means that unless we can abolish all governments, true communism would be impossible.

There is a still a government who upholds the law?

All deaths except his, durr.

Socialism is when you regulate everything to all hell, including gibs me dats. Which is why it dies every time! And oh yes, those three aren't shitholes. Pfftt hahaha.

The western propaganda system does pretty good at convincing the american people that socialism is a boogie man. I don't see how it would happen here unless it got to the point where people didn't get scared when they heard the word "socialism".

>I know what it means.
Yes but do you know how it will turn out? I'm betting you don't.

I think Joey Ramone said it best....

3rd RULE IS.....DON'T TALK TO COMMIES!!

If only Socialists exist I would be fine with that.

>After being bombed by bigger capitalist countries and not by the economy failing.

This is called evolution. It proves that Communism is unsustainable.

>People aren't created equally. Communism is attempts to undo natural selection and ruins the gene pool. It's the reason the only white people that act like niggers are Russian.

Source?

They’re as weak minded as you. You might pick a few.

>n-not real socialism

Errytime.

Fuck off faggot. You'll be the first up against the wall, whether fascism or communism wins. It's in your best interests to hope the majority stay around the center.

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maybe if you sucked cock okay you wouldn't be here asking us now would you?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward

Read these and then kill yourself.

Really? Every single one of them? And none of them had the power to protect themselves? Did the people not fight hard enough or could try not produce enough to keep the war effort going? Maybe it was so shit that it wasn't worth fighting for? Surely this workers paradise would have spread like wild fire though? Seeing as how the benefits are so obvious, you'll certainly never have to worry about an obesity epidemic or diabetes. I see you have the Soviet Union ending quite early, does that mean that you can say the ussr wasn't real socialism? You know why Lenin institutes the NEP right? Because socialism is fucking retarded and cannot provide for the people. Go and look up how much the Soviet economy was propped up by the black market and people doing favours for each other at various times in its history, very interesting seeing first hand how socialism quite literally goes against human nature and the incentives and disincentive that motivate and demotivate us to do things

THERE IS NO PRETTIER FLAG IN THE WORLD THAN THE STARS AND STRIPES OF THE USA!!!!!!

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USSR wasn't socialist and Thomas Sowell books are biased pieces of shit and no actual economists recommend you read him.

Amen brother

You know 60 millions white genocided by (((Bolshevik))) mean faggot ?!

They said its not famine until the mother eat their own children's and you know what those that eating their own children's faggot ?!

fucking cockroachs like (((you)))

Only 5 is right, but close enough.

Communism can't succeed and doesn't do any of those things.

Communism is impossible. You can't even get close to achieving the communist state because humans do not naturally align with social justice by eliminating social hierarchies and economic freedom, it is in fact social hierarchy and economic freedom which naturally brings about something you could call "social justice".

Socialism can exist, that's just when the government makes it illegal to own the means of production. This does not require violence but it does require repression of some form and is highly inefficient since central planning is not as good at predictions as the free market and doesn't produce the same incentives toward virtue.

>How many will have to die until you’ve reached “real communism”?

The French Revolution was unacceptable and the American Secession (there was no revolution) was self defense.

>I see you have the Soviet Union ending quite early, does that mean that you can say the ussr wasn't real socialism?

USSR wasn't socialism.

>Really? Every single one of them? And none of them had the power to protect themselves

The majority of the world is capitalist. You can't expect socialist societies when they prop up to stop the incoming bombs.

The only way people can seriously make that argument is to use the incorrect western european defintion of socialism.

Socialism == seizing the means of production.

Sweden != socialist.

He knows far more than you do because he's not been indoctrinated nor does he feel like a weakling. You an sit around listening to limp-wristed intellectuals repeat the same bollocks day in day out but when you actually listen to the critics of egalitarianism you'll understand why you're wrong. Of course this is to assume that you're intellectually curious, which obviously you're not

THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS IS FOR TWO REASONS: MUZZ SCUM AND COMMIE SCUM!!!

>muh 6000 gorillian killed by evil antisemite stalin
You have to stop shilling

So you admit that you're zealous scum who will willing kill everyone who doesn't go along with the delusions you were indoctrinated to believe

HOW MANY COMMIES DOES IT TAKE TO JERK OFF A JIHADI??

Are you saying someone other than the state owned the means of production, or are you saying that the party did not represent society?

Both of those seem like bullshit.

Also what's with Sowell, he dindunuffin.

USSR was socialist both by definition and by their own admission.

Just because it isn't your unique and completely flawless definition of socialism doesn't make this fact any less true.