Reminder that you share more interests with non-white workers than you do with the 1000 richest whites (and Jews) that...

Reminder that you share more interests with non-white workers than you do with the 1000 richest whites (and Jews) that own everything. The fact you can't see the forest through the trees, only shows you've gobbled up ideology (i.e. taken up a belief that obscures reality).
These elite whites share no interests with you, in fact, their interests are logically opposed to yours (globalism, multiculturalism, mass immigration, capitalism all good for them, not so much for you).

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Luke Skywwalker really let himself go.

Nope, that train is gone and never will come back. First the traitors and after that their pets.

I don't have interests I share with others.

The only people I share interests with are my brothers and sisters in Christ

There will always be rich whites. Someone has to have the most.

If communists would quit siding with the people who want to flood our countries with subhumans and muslims I would gladly help them topple capitalism and establish the tyranny of the proletariat. I can't be expected to unite with the workers of the world if 60% of them are violent low IQ monkeys.

Sniffing mermaid milkies leads to that.

Yes you do.
Even at the most basic level. From the moment you were born you shared an interest with your parents and the larger society that created the structures of meaning that you have absorbed through your development. On top of that, you have absorbed and benefited from various social structures and material structures that people created before you.
Try being born and left in the woods, let us how that would go for you.

This pure ideology.

>created the structures of meaning
I dont get meaning from material possessions

the communist refusal to accept biological reality is their downfall. they need to realize that the working class needs to be smart enough to actually be able to run things if you want the working class to run things

*SCHNEEEEEEF* ideology - Slavoj Zizek

I wasn't talking about material possessions, but things like language, culture, and so on.

The working class doesn't exist once capitalism is destroyed. The working class only exists in relation to the capitalist class, and likewise, capitalists only exist in relation to the working class.

Then why was your OP about money?

Because money allows you to dominate everything - language, culture, ideas, and so on.

Niggers are still niggers regardless of what post-capitalist utopia you have beneficently ushered in through revolution. Who owns the means of production doesn't stop muslims from killing infidels, either. Communists better preface their posts on Sup Forums by accepting Race Realism or their ideas will get absolutely fucking nowhere.

Equality has never existed. Never will. Totally unnatural.

>He think communism is about equality.

What you're trying to say is that people are more divided by class than ethnicity. I think that's somewhat true but not 100%. I still don't want to hang out with working class gypsies and Muslims, they're disgusting

>only shows you've gobbled up ideology
rich coming from the guy who gobbled up ideology as well.

What is it about again?

What do you mean by equality? Equality in what? If you mean equality as some blanket term for making everyone equal in everything, you're retarded and no communist actually believes that.
Also, this is not an argument, it's just your pessimism.

mass starvation, genocide, workcamps and gulag

power. Only delusional idiots think otherwise.
Which is why every attempt at communism on a decent scale leads to totalitarian societies and mass graves and "true" communism never happens and never will

>share more interests
None of those interests are as important as creating a white society for my great grandchildren to live in. .

Destroying nations and leaving the carcass to be picked over by internationalist finance.

Nothing but the negation of the present state of things and the abolition of the Value Form.

*SNIFFS*

PURE IDEOLOGY
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You don't understand the definition of ideology I'm using. You're conflating it with world view.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology

This. He's conceiving it completely in the abstract.
Neither Marx nor Engels were egalitarians.

That's exactly what capitalism has done.
Capitalism has flooded the west with foreigners.

Quite right.
Your point?

All nations are like safes holding their wealth
Nationalism, tradition and culture form the door to the safe
Marxism is the battering ram to break down the door and open the safe
Capitalism sucks up the wealth inside and scatters it

Illiberal Marxism and liberal capitalism form a materialistic double-team, each one half of the pincer used to crack nations.

Racial interests>economic interests

>implying they won't be second to go when it happens
>implying their assets won't be nationalized for the mensch

come on, son

false dichotomy

Except capitalism undermines your racial concerns. You cannot separate the economic from the political.

Tribalism is too hard-wired. Money is transient, blood is not.
WW1 already disproved OP's proposition that all classes of the world unite to rise up against the wealthy. Poor Frenchmen were still more likely to go to war with poor Germans rather than lay down their arms and attack their elite.

Since when has Sup Forums been pro-elite whites or pro-Jews? We call them ''the elite'', the neoliberal globalists, the Cabal. They have always been our #1 enemies. They play capitalism when it benefits them, they play socialism when it benefits them.

While the jews and elite-whites are our most dangerous enemy, it doesn't mean that we have anything in common with black or hispanics. Hispanic workers are used in the USA to drive down wages for white workers, and multiculturalism is used to destroy social cohesion among whites. The ultimate goal for elite whites is to have every continent filled with mixed race mutts and we object to that.

You communists are helping the neoliberal elites by protecting multiculturalism and immigrants. So why don't you take a load of racerealism and start caring about White workers? We have genetic interest to preserve people of similar genotype as ours.

Which is what Marxism is ultimately about: making wild predictions about human behavior that have demonstrably never happened based on flawed theory. Which is why Marxist regimes become so repressive; their ideology does not work, so they try to mold their people to make it work, through coercion and force.

being a supporter of capitalism means you naturally support globalism and corporations. Nazis knows jews control these institutions but their love of capitalism is too great.

Liberals claim there are no borders in this world
Nationalists know there are borders, vertical ones, based on community. Nations, cultures, races etc.
Marxists know there are borders but they draw them wrong, they draw them horizontally, on a class-basis, rather than vertically, on a national, racial basis.

I like how you posted Zizek alongside a pro socialism/communism post

Pure ideology

>Tribalism is too hard-wired. Money is transient, blood is not.
This just a silly statement. Tribalism is not the same thing as identification with a nation state because of social conditioning, tribes have completely different social dynamics.
>WW1 already disproved OP's proposition that all classes of the world unite to rise up against the wealthy. Poor Frenchmen were still more likely to go to war with poor Germans rather than lay down their arms and attack their elite.
Social conditioning, particularly with deep historical roots like the conflict between Britain and Germany, is difficult to overcome. The ruling elite of any country are well aware of the buttons they need to press to elicit a response they want in the masses.
But even throughout the war, there were several ceasefires which erupted into camaraderie (such as the Christmas truce), before the men were ordered back to war by their officers.

Additionally, the elite are very adept at buying off the workers by raising living standards, working conditions, etc. A hungry dog is dangerous and will even attack its master, a dog that is overfed will be complacent.

The non white working class (aside from me) wish to destroy the white race for wrongs of long dead (((white))) men. They serve the Jews in that they want to turn them all into mongrels, and after the last white is like me, the Jews will enslave us all. I do not share such interests, I believe in racial preservation. That being said you are right that the elites hate poor whites, but the solution to this is not communism as you imply.

Marxists at the time already expected the workers to simply rebel. They projected their own expectations onto entire global populations and when they didn't at all behave like they hadn't predicted they were dumbfounded. Then later they scrambled to explain this phenomenon (how could poor people possibly rally to defend their nation instead of killing their oppressors!!) and came up with social conditioning. The poor saps simply don't know any better! That must be it.

I don't support capitalism though. Market economy is way to decentralize the computational problems of the economy to every individual, and I support a strong government that puts the Folk before economic profit and the capitalists. Never ever should anyone get to make dishonest profits, but credit has to be given to those who deserve it. Hard work needs to be rewarded better than lazy work, smart work needs to be more rewarded than stupid work. It's not hard.

I genuinely don't get it why anyone would be communists anymore. The knowledge of genetics and biology has destroyed communism.

Correct.

The elites hate poor whites because they hate whites period. They hate whites because they aren't white, they hate Christians because they're not Christian. And they hate whites and Christians because white Christian society is all that can stop them.

Why on earth to people even listen to that retarded sniffling mountain troll? Zizeck or whatever the fuck his name is.

The globalist elite is first off a meme, they are right there in plain sight and often have competing interests. George Soros for instance hates Google and the Saudi Royals hate each other, meanwhile Jean-Claude Junker hates the British elites etc.

>Capitalism is good for them
Unfortunately you don't have a better solution, socialism is the fire, capitalism is the frying pan. You're going to get burned either way if you're a proletarian.

Pro-tip; don't be a proletarian.

>don't be a proletarian.
And thanks to the upwards mobility in an economically self-sufficient capitalist nation, you don't have to be.
Everyone can be middle-class if they work hard for it, everyone can be bourgeois.
Which is why the Marxists hate the bourgeois so much; they completely negate the need for Marxism.

>Pro-tip; don't be a proletarian.
Pro-tip, if you sell your labour and don't live off someone else's labour, you are proletarian.

Hate is a strong word. I don't think the elites hate anyone. It's merely in their rational self-interest to prepare the world for full automation, and God knows what plans they have. Why should they keep their subjects alive in post-automated world? I don't know why they should. Whites, mutts, blacks, asians, everyone will be fucking useless to the elites. And they know it.

you cant survive off nationalism. You first and foremost need material goods.

Nationalism is merely the protection of said material goods against globalist finance.

those words do not mean what you think they mean, and ultimately capitalism is not a static system so what you want doesnt happen anyway. Instead the drive for more profits just sucks the wealth from the bottom and squeezes the middle, actually decreasing the middle class.

no its not. Thats an economic facet of nationalism. Nationalism literally only has to do with people.

>Pro-tip; don't be a proletarian.
you're saying that you should overcome your plebness and create some middle class business. The problem is that middle class businesses, or petty bourgeois as Marx said, often get devoured by the rich ones because they can't compete, and eventually everyone becomes proletarian as they're devoured by the elites. The internet created a boom for a new market but that's slowly dying out too, see how no one can compete with youtube for example

>isolationism
yeah if you wanna end up like north korea lol

>globalism, multiculturalism, mass immigration, capitalism all good for them, not so much for you
And the non-whites in our countries aren't for these things? You're a fucking idiot.

But you're a shill that will muddy the water as to who those "elite whites" are-- with the purpose of helping the actual criminals escape justice-- isn't that so? You would NOT have posted a picture of Zizek if you weren't a shill. You fucking idiot.

As a consequence of the interests of the global capitalists.

You mean shunned by the international financial order? That'll happen to any nation that doesn't play by their rules.
What are you really arguing here? Don't upset the elites or they'll sanction you? Lmao, good job.

>These elite whites share no interests with you, in fact, their interests are logically opposed to yours (globalism, multiculturalism, mass immigration, capitalism all good for them, not so much for you).
indeed but people here know that

I am not under the impression that anyone here sympathizes with globalists. White or jewish or yellow, makes no difference to dollars profit and status

ziz is love
ziz is life

>elite whites
Most are actually whites, not Jews.
The interests of these people are one and the same, the maintenance of their capital.

Then why are they all such willing pawns? These people who have no place in Europe flock here to scavenge its resources, its people, its society, and they don't care, because they know it's not their society. So they do whatever they want, steal what they want, fuck what they want. They have no kinship with us.

Ziz is "schlubby slovenian wants to be a marxist but economic and political reality won't let him."

i'm just saying that they're starving because they're not playing by (((their))) rules. is it worth it?

because they get that fucking money. And things take time for the shit to start, even you can solve all of your problems by just getting more money and protecting and isolating yourself

It is in their own interest to be in favour of these things. This has nothing to do with your bogeyman.

ziz is too pessimistic to be a marxist, he is a post marxist

Sup Forums knows about the elites. They know about the Jews. They know their endgame, their intention. Yet somehow Sup Forums considers the Blacks, Mexicans, and Muslims as the enemy.

>Sup Forums logic

So your argument is slavery vs death. I suppose anyone would answer that question as they wish.

>because they get that fucking money
Because the nations they flock too aren't nationalist enough.

obscurantism. why are brainlet bolshevik scum so disingenuous?

>i don't understand it
>therefore it's obscurantism

Oh I thought you were talking about the capitalists. The migrants just come for a better life. And the west is happy to let them in due to liberalism and the economic system unquenching desire for cheap labour and capital. The desires of late capitalism can only be met with immigration

>why don't you play along with terms i made up specifically to help my argument but have no meaning beyond that

ideology is everything senpai. Dont be using the old marxist definition

>late capitalism
According to your sort it's been "late capitalism" since the 1800 you ninny.
The people also do not come of their own volition. People go to Africa to spread the word about the opportunities in Europe and NGO's are ready to ferry them across the Mediterranean. This is a racial and financial attack on Europe.

No we don't.
The ultra wealthy are giving the world to the shitskins. Shitskins have a future in their world, whites don't unless you are one of them.
Go kill yourself faggot. The ultra wealthy vote democrat.

>According to your sort it's been "late capitalism" since the 1800 you ninny.
You know so fucking little its not even funny

I see we hit the wall where arguments run out, nice.
Marxist predictions of capitalist trajectory have proven to be incorrect just about all the time.

>ou share more interests with non-white workers than you do with the 1000 richest whites

Such as killing whitey and imposing sharia?

>1000 richest whites (and Jews)
Nice try nigger. You dems are worse than Republicans if only because you consistently make white people out to be the cause for everything wrong in your contrived world view. I'll root for the side that has little concern for me over the side that actively wants to destroy me and my family and take God out of our lives by force.

No actually they've come back on track since the 80's. With the decline of the welfare state and the return of laissez faire economics its back to business as usual

Have you considered the possibility that I share the most interest with the tens of millions of people in my own race, nationality, and class?

>No actually they've come back on track since the 80's.
Ah, when the Soviet Union collapsed. All according to plan.

>Reminder that you share more interests with non-white workers than you do with the 1000 richest whites
True
But like under 10% of my coworkers are non-white, we have little in common, and they're willing slaves to their thousand white masters, they're by-proxy Jews and would be better off roped.

gee I wonder who could be behind this post?

it collapsed in the 90s

In a way. A homogeneous system is more stable, and stability is good. The more unstable the system is, the more prone we are to become tribal for protection. Big class differences and cultural differences are both different ways of creating volatility. So saying it a bit simple, a small difference in the former can cancel out a big difference in the latter (and vice versa).

Your problem is that you and your worker buddies of all colors are no system in this context.

OP
I see you're a commie
Just want to let you know that any talk of a commie revolution that doesn't begin with eliminating minorities is rhetorical masturbation
Good day

>Reminder that you share more interests with non-white workers

Lol leftism is so finished.

there is no unity among the working class

a nigger would sell you down the river for a pack of newports

Minor details, but the fall of the Berlin wall marked the beginning of the end.