Tattoos and degeneracy

so /pol,
my roommate and I are having this discussion over and over again.
are there any good arguments to get a tattoo or are they thoroughly degenerate?

It does not really have a black or white answer.

Doesn't matter. It's just a waste of money. Do something useful with it.

UTTERLY degenerate

do you personally have any arguments for either side?

Tattooing is an ancient practice performed by just about every civilization on Earth. Tattoos are not inherently degenerate although they are often the mark of degenerate behavior and degenerate in form as well.

Tattoos are degeneracy given form

T. I got a tattoo when I was 15 on my left should about 2 inches long and 2 inches wide. Regretted it ever since1

I don't get what there is to debate. Only reason to get a tattoo is "I like it". There's tons of reasons why it could be impractical for you but you have to decide whether "I like it" outweighs those reasons.

Ethnic tattos like the maori are on a different levels than tattoing a dragon because It loookz kewl lel.
The average tatto is a symbol of exhibitionism and nothing more.

Why do you want them? The only reason to get them is to look like a low life. A rebel. "Bad." Therefore they are totally degerate.

This. It's no different than choosing a tshirt, just more permanent.

Artificial modification of your body is degenerate. Tattoos and plastic surgery are absolutely depraved and degenerate acts of behavior.

Waste of money, doesn't look good, blackens white skin. Only a cracked would get a tattoo, classified: ULTIMATE DEGENERACY

They are only acceptable when it's on your neck or face desu

Tatoos were originally meant to show membership in a group, indeed it was a kind of sacrifice of your body to subordinate yourself to some group. be it your clan, your military unit, or your crewmates.

modern tatooing is the opposite. a puerile attempt to "stand out" by doing something almost 50% of people do and which requires no sacrifice other than a few hundred dollars.

Tattoos are ugly. They are ugly even when they are fresh and new.

Tatoos obviously don't blur like that over time.
Also the right side photo is clearly greyscale for no fucking reason, so someone has been manipulating the image, and extremely poorly. What is the point of creating anti tattoo propaganda in Photoshop? Totally bizarre.

Anything that damages your body is degenerate.

it's degenerate.
used mark tough guys like sailors, prisoners and military.
now with "no pain" procedures it marks whores and faggots.

Tattoos instantly announce to everyone that you are a bad decision maker and you have ZERO impulse control.

If you are a tough, alpha, military type, you can probably pull them off. Everyone else needs to really think about just how hideous they are.

There is nothing worse then attractive people who have scarred up their body with tattoos.

Avoid anyone woman that has one. Even a small one.

>Good argument
They are easily and cheaply removed now.

Waste of money
Immediate sign of degeneracy

Skin decor.

Been happening for thousands of years.

i have tattoos and i have a trad slovak gf so lol as long as they arent shit it doesnt fucking matter. and dont put that shit on your fucking hands or neck or face

Dang, if it's some kind of anti-tat propaganda I don't even really see a difference. They both just look like something a teenager doodled in their notebook during a boring school lecture.

They actually do. It depends on a number of conditions though. Type of ink, how deep the ink penetrated, amount of sun light exposed to, and some others.

Yea cause you made a life desicion at 15 idiot.

Post a picture of your pure no depraved form

I have no debt, make 100k+ running my own buisness.Three WHITE children with a beautiful wife. Hobbies are bushcraft, gardening and working out. Home school my kids. I help out in my local town, never been to jail or committed a serious crime. So because i have a large tattoo im a degenerate?

I don't see how this could be a good argument to blow out money for blackening your skin

I have a tattoo of OM on my right shoulder I couldn't give two fucks if someone thinks it's degenerate or not. I thought about it for a good year and was during a very transformational period in my life. I say if you're doing it because it's symbolic and meaningful to you then do it. And yes, these days tattoos aren't permanent anymore. Yes, it'll hurt like a bitch and takes multiple sessions, but they can be removed.

TL,DR: You do you.

why did you get it? was it because you thought it was cool or to show off or what? serious question here

Being reversible isnt a good argument for a once permanent action? Its the best idea and probably aside from a memorial tattoo the only one that is logical.

The cops and prison staff love tattoos, real easy to identify people.

Nothing is inherently degenerate stop spewing Sup Forums garbage. A good quality tattoo on someone with a proper skincare routine will look fine. If you want one, get one, if not don't. Stop giving a shit what your online friends think. Odds are you're not in a social class in real life where tattoos will make or break your life.

>now with "no pain" procedures it marks whores and faggots.
>someone with a proper skincare routine
found a faggot

I'm okay with people who have survived actual military combat getting a squad tattoo but it encourages LARPers to do the same.

Nah, it's just that average folks have no artistic or design talent, so they choose something that looks good drawn on a piece of paper or as a graphic design and transfer to the very irregular 3D medium of their body.

People love getting high detail whole body images of comic characters drawn on their forearms, it's beyond terrible. They also love getting too many with no balance in relation to each other, or cramming them in.
That lizard in the OP pic is fairly simple and would look ok anywhere on the body. Simple ones are usually much better.

I have 2 simple ones and I forget they are even there .

I drew it over a few years when i was younger. I got it for myself. I split it in four parts, each was a gift to myself after completing life goals.

this is just like saying sleeping around and fucking everything in sight is not bad anymore because now we have abortions and the pill. could you please think of an argument that is not on par with "hurr durr it's not permanent anymore"

No its not, learn to analogy. It doesnt affect anyone but the tattoo'd and the removal is the same way. Not comparable at all. Give me an argument meme flag that isnt based on "hurr its permanent" .

Besides the obvious fact that tattoos are degenerate, I can't see any functional use for them.
If you like how it looks visually, won't that get old and lame
eventually?

Tattoos for fashion sake are totally and utterly degenerate....

so what type of life goals are in your opinion worthy of a tattoo? I can get behind the idea of military tattoos or to symbolize your belonging to a group but what were your reasons?

Tattoos are a socially acceptable form of cutting/self harm

>2 inches long and 2 inches wide
i see what you did there

Pure white skin is as beautiful as it gets. Any deviation will make it uglier. All kinds of doodles, i.e., tattoos, might make it even hideous. That is all there is to it. If you value beauty, do not get tattoos. And bear in mind that everyone else does value beauty.

Anglo-Saxon kings had tattoos.

it hurts when making and has long lasting physical downsides on your body. for example getting a CT would be painful with tattoos all over your body. it's an individualistic approach of showing off why you are a special snowflake. you basically show everyone what type of person you are by scribbling all over your body like a four year old. I could go on and on but please give me a counterargument

You will regret it like 90% of the time

I got mine in prison,i got one to signify that i killed and two others that signify "assualt".I also got on that signifies "justified thief",because i robbed some rich buissnes man.
Also have my moms name tattoed on my back,since i will have manny women but mom is unique since she raised me.I also have the prison names of where i served my sentence and the number of years.
Getting a tatto with no significance without having served in prison or army is waht i'd expect from pussified western men....

I share part of the tattoo with my wife, her only tattoo, runs from my right hand into her left. The other was after i accomplished my lifting goals, 400 Squat, 500 dead, 275 bench, 225OHP. Third was after i purchased my farm and paid it off. Last was after i became my own boss and created my buisness.

Which makes it different

How do tattoos work?
I've wanted to get a particular doodle I made a few years ago onto my right shoulder, would they be able to replicate it if I brought it in?
Other than my own art, I don't want tattoos on my body.

>Dont paint your house, get a car, listen to music,where nazi armbands, have a sports team, or any activity that isnt completely vanilla or boring and fits my special mold, these are all ways of saying you're a special snowflake.

Its no different than painting your house or car at this point. Now getting a degenerate image or belonging to a degenerate group identified with particular tattoos are definitely degenerate but thats not the same thing you are talking about. Good thing you get paid to shill and not to reason.

>Tattoos instantly announce to everyone that you are a bad decision maker and you have ZERO impulse control.
That is true for the people who do tattoos as a fashion choice.
If you are serious about getting a tattoo and your artist is interested in delivering a good result, you are going to plan and work on it for quite a time. Hell, one of my major pieces took more than a year to finish, because it involved a lot of planning.

when see someone with a tattoo i immediately assume that they are dumb

I feel this way about swede flags.

If you go to a traditional shop it's a working class masculine sort of culture. The artists and clients have a very barbershop type relationship and it's very big on the "trade" of tattooing. Flash art from the 30's and a tradition of the practice. Most people get bullshit printed offline or have no idea about the culture and just want to be trendy.

It's like a fedora for normies.

My GF has a rose on her leg looks like this, I think it's pretty neat honestly

yes it does. only primitives and subhumans modify their bodies

The following people are allowed to have tattoos: members of the military, bikers, convicts or future convicts, meth heads, strippers, whores, porn actors. Everyone else is forbidden. Working at Home Depot?
No. Investment banker? No. Small businessman? No. Housewife? No.

Not sure if you've ever been out in the sun before but every car is painted and so are houses. Anyway, (you)

there is a reason why they are so popular with low-income 'clubbing' retards.

So yeah, its degenerate.
Also pretty sure it lowers employment chances

this

I got a shitty tattoo on my wrist when I was 17. One of the worst mistakes I've made. I'm in the process of getting lasered off. Shit sucks.

No they arent.

> he has to check in with the internet before he decides whether to get a tattoo or not
> being this cucked to Sup Forums
lmao, fucking pathetic.

This. It shows poor decision making skills.

At the sight of a tattoo, I automatically disregard that person as potential for friend, relationship, or social contact

if you have a good skin why the fuck would you ruin it with tattoos? you don't put bumper stickers on a Ferrari.

>just about every civilization on Earth
>civilization
you mean every primitive culture, not civilization.

The only reason to have a tattoo is IF you have a medical condition - allergic reaction, a tattoo in a visible spot could save your life and help the medical staff. The other one is similar - blood group.

Any other applications are degenerate and should be discouraged and stomped out

Won't it rust?

By themselves, no. Designs can be, and getting a tat when you are a poorfag is ULTIMATE degenerecy.

That looks like shit

could save your life
>could

>Not part of Western culture
>Not allowed by Christianity
>Not created by mother nature naturally
>Only certain types of people get them (degenerates who don't have there shit together)
>Why don't people like Bill Gates or any other successful people have them
>Tattoos can never be done for "yourself" as the point of it is to be seen by other people (approval seeking behaviour)
>"It has meaning" is a fucking non issue
>People get tattoos to "stand out as individuals" because they have nothing else to offer. Ironically it makes them all look the same

HH

Your girlfriend is a basic white bitch who probably has fucked 10 non whites before you

The post picks on their skin because they lack communication skills and desperately want attention

If it looks cool it isn't degeneracy

If it is a bad taste tattoo made with shit ink and a rusty needle it is degeneracy

Just like having a painting in your house, you don't hang a 6kb jpg on your wall, you make sure to get a big 4k HD picture

There is a profound and important reason not to get a tattoo. God, the Creator of Heaven and Earth, demands that you not do it. You see He created you in His image, and if you purposefully attempt to disfigure the body He gave you then you are committing a gross and terrible sin.

"You shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves: I am the Lord."

You know who likes to destroy the image of God? Demons thats who! Why would you want to please those horrible abominations? The same Demons who like to see babies murdered and innocent children raped?

"Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst?"

"Therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, I urge you to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God; this is your spiritual worship."

"You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons."
DO NOT GET A TATTOO!

>The oldest intact remains of human(Caucasian btw) skin has tattoos.

I'm not a Christian, but this is the argument I use irl.

>>now with "no pain" procedures it marks whores and faggots.
whore detected

Yeah so tattoos are primitive thank you very much

That's not her

No she isn't and I took her virginity.

So degenerate. Nothing good is denoted by tattoo wearing.
>military emblem/gang symbol/logos
Collectivist drone owned by something other than yourself
>tribal whatever
goddamn retard
>always want to remember X
couldn't have a very important X if you think you'll forget it
It's always either a poser thing, an image (be different like everyone else) thing, an impulse thing an emulation thing or a mental illness like cutting thing.
Tattoos are trash tier shit.

Fuck off christcuck

depends on the content of the tattoo and if it's visible. The people who get tattoos tend to be degenerate but that isn't always the case.

I personally wouldn't get one but I don't really give a shit so long as it isn't normally visible

>If it looks cool it isn't degeneracy
Imagine a redheaded girl with an alabaster skin. There is absolutely nothing you could tattoo on her that would be cool. Any change in any direction at all would be for the worse.

That was to distinguish the jews from other groups and to give them an identity. At least learn the bible before you go quoting it. If you ever ate a shrimp your argument applies as well.

oy vey!

do you think it's okay to get a tattoo to hide stretch marks or scars?

my grandma has a tattoo
not degenerate
it used to be a tradition

I support people's right to do it, but it's generally idiotic, and shallow attempt at individual expression for snowflakes/retards...a semi-permanent body alteration for a temporary infatuation.

The example I use is, what if you got a tattoo of what you thought was the coolest thing every 5 years of your life? At 5, I'd have Kermit or The Fonz. At 10, I'd have Yoda. At 15, I'd probably have Iron Maiden.

Now, I'd fucking hate/regret every single one.

Look at it this way
Every form of art necessitate a canvas, commonly considered cheap, boring and blank, which or upon which a modification is brought for the sake of aesthetics.
In inking, the canvas is the body. Whether you're an atheist who believes the body is the work of millions of years of successful try and miss, or a theist who believes that your body is a temple, both view the body as a natural marvel, a true work art and the peak of aesthetics. However, inking artists insist that the body is nothing more than a canvas upon which to drop ink on.
To me, whether you're a theist or an atheist, you should be frowning on such a primitive practice because having a tatto shows a lack of respect either for your genetic lineage who fought died and bred for thousands, millions of year to bring you this physical form (which you discarded because you felt it was bleak, underestimating your own awesomeness), or for God (or the Gods) above who made Man what it is.

Well then you better start interviewing potential bulls

no one gives a shit and anyone who thinks tattoos alone are degenerate are retarded, its about what the tattoo is