no,I mean,I REALLY hate this shitty setting.
WoW and final fantasy RUINED JRPGs and isekai,now every fucking single RPG esque scenario looks like this medieval/fantasy world,and I absolutely hate it.
I love modern and interesting scenarios,HxH,the Shin megami tensei games,Tanya the evil and dragon ball are all really fucking interesting, because they look familiar yet extremely different for us.
hygiene,religion,public morals,the political and military system,the way people were seen and treated in the medieval ages was fucking shitty and made in a way that you would work your ass off your entire life and MAYBE,just MAYBE,get a little bit of happiness,that is,if you didn't die of some unknown disease because medical care was absolute garbage(good luck with those fucking herbs there my friend).
the worst part of all of it is that most of those shows and games have rarely no difference in one another,there's a "central kingdom",everyone excepts the adventurers uses peasentry clothing(which begs the question,why doesn't EVERYBODY simply become a hunter/adventurer/whatever the fuck you want to call it,since it's so fucking easy to get your food and stuff related to other jobs?),there's a "higher council",there are dragons(why is this always a fucking thing) and animals become unsensical biologically UNACURRATE beings(some of them being able to fly for no fucking reason at all),women are allowed to wear slutty and revealing clothing(no really what in the fuck,I know this is literally just weeb fapbait but if you can actually make a cool looking woman in a less revealing clothes,it sounds way more professional for me than just strapping on a random collegial uniform on your girls),literally almost everyone uses archaic weapons(swords and bows would actually be really fucking useless against the "magical creatures" shown) and WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD YOU WAIFUFAG SOMEONE IN THOSE SHOWS?THEY ALL LITERALLY SMELL LIKE SHIT AND SWEAT FROM ALL THAT HAPPENS TO THEM.
STOP THIS.
I hate the medieval-fantasy setting
*autistic screeching*
But the orc rape tho
Too long; didn't read.
tl;dr nips suck at worldbuilding
Anime bars itself from medieval setting. We have MMO and Pokemon with retexture. It's not going to change any time soon.
Berserk is as close as we get to a medieval setting, or Spice and Wolf.
Alright, thanks for your input.
nice blog.
the worst thing is that those two(berserk and spice & wolf) ACTUALLY are good in doing what they need to do.
I really wished that the isekai trend fucking died so hard.
>oh no a story made for escapism and not for realism is not realistic
Really, and that problem is not even exclusive to medieval settings
Your problem isn't even worldbuilding, you literally said you hate the concept of the medieval ages as a setting.
cool story bro
FF game settings are all over the place. They're hardly confined to medieval fantasy.
>Berserk is as close as we get to a medieval setting, or Spice and Wolf.
t. watched less than fifty series
>medieval fantasy
>fantasy
hmmmmm
>WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD YOU WAIFUFAG SOMEONE IN THOSE SHOWS?THEY ALL LITERALLY SMELL LIKE SHIT AND SWEAT FROM ALL THAT HAPPENS TO THEM.
Your loss. That's my fetish.
>final fantasy
There hasn't been a high/medieval fantasy title since 2000 or so, what the fuck are you on about?
>The west does something cool
>Japs copy it and drive it into the ground with shoddy remakes
It is their way: do not contest the Japanese for doing as they do, but merely accept it, and them, in spite of their deficiencies.
TL;DR OP is an autistic faggot.
Name three.
Midevil jrpgish setting hasn't been fucking cool outside of lord of the rings ever.
There's been less then a fucking handful of decent sword and sorcery based media on the planet. But it's always the fucking go to of people.
It's just degenerate navel gazers crapping out fanfiction based around the stuff they've read before over and over again with no real thought behind it. Why?
Because the other people who like the setting like the alread built up world and don't have to think too hard.
It's like how all space based stuff is practically the same shit.
I loathe generic sci-fi space shit and generic midevil land based shit. But I can ignore those trite overdone settings if the story is good.
Here's a hint. That's rarely the case.
Nigger, the West drove it into the ground themselves well before the Japanese did.
lurk more.
I'd love to have more bronze/iron age settings.
all that tear sauce over that pasta. MMMMMMMM
Yeah I loved that shot too, from Re: Zero right.
We need more grimdark, violent fantasy with low magic. That isn't Berserk, because those hiatuses are bullshit.
>HxH
>good setting
Guin
Lodoss
One with a long nip name in can't remember.
don't spoonfeed him.
That always ends up being midevil themed violent pornography and gore.
And that is litterally all they have to do because story means absolutely nothing to the people who get off on it.
You say that as if its a bad thing.
/thread
You're ugly and you smell bad.
>muh norse mythology
>muh tolkien
>muh narnia
Westerfags are to blame.
But I have to prove him wrong.
Yeah well, I have a giant dick, a great body, and can shower.
>hygiene,religion,public morals,the political and military system,the way people were seen and treated in the medieval ages was fucking shitty and made in a way that you would work your ass off your entire life and MAYBE,just MAYBE,get a little bit of happiness,that is,if you didn't die of some unknown disease because medical care was absolute garbage(good luck with those fucking herbs there my friend).
>American education
Real orcs don't even have dicks. Enough with hentai propaganda.
These are the only two good medieval-fantasy setting anime.
this. Kingdom is one of the few and it's been great
> tv show/movie/anime on the Maurya Empire wen
>Etruscans wen
>Indo-Europeans wen
>Persians that isn't about 300 wen
>Carthage wen
>Bablyon wen
>Bronze Age Collapse wen
>Real orcs
Which zoo do I go to for that?
Detroit
Isekai has nothing to do with world building, its just that nips are bad at writing compelling stories for westerners.
In moonland, world building for fantasy isnt seen as important compared to big tits,waifu design and game mechanics
Remind me why we like anime/manga again?
>Bronze Age Collapse wen
This is underrepresented in all media, especially the end of Mitanni should be every writers wet dream
Pretty girls with big titties, occasionally nice animation, very occasionally a hood story.
Helsinki syndrome
We Boondocks now.
Because I also like things other than fantasy? Because Western comics/cartoons barely cover medieval fantasy to begin with? Because is making a silly exaggeration/overgeneralization? I don't know, take your pick.
>I love modern and interesting scenarios,HxH,the Shin megami tensei games,Tanya the evil and dragon ball are all really fucking interesting, because they look familiar yet extremely different for us.
Thanks for telling me to not bother with the rest of your post.
I don't know what's worse, the idea that Dragonball's setting is "really fucking interesting," or the way he just brushes aside the hundred thousand "it's the real world but there are magic bad guys and this guy meets a girl and fights them with her" urban fantasy series out there.
>Helsinki
>this triggers the svennebanan
junketsu no maria?
Berserk is Renaissance-styled
>very occasionally a hood story.
OP's problem is that he doesn't realize that it's not the setting or even the isekai genre that's the problem. It's the poor way in which it's constantly executed and regurgitated. A medieval fantasy isekai could be made really damn interest with genuine care. It's just that the kinds of people who make this crap are the kind that don't care. Their motivations are shallow as are their target demographics's.
FF14/11?
What setting do you prefer?
The Japanese teenagers in high school setting?
The sci fi with huge robots setting?
It's all been done to death at this point.
Reskins of Everquest and WoW are not Final Fantasy XI is my shit but you get the point, OP is a fucking faggot who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Illiad animu?
Tongari no atelier is pretty good example of world building done right
Its the berserk of our century
So anime haters countering "muh anime is a diverse medium like movies" argument with how it's the lowest form of art have always been right?
You could get into books if you want good stories instead of korean animation made to sell porn
Just saying
Masturbation purposes duh
I almost agree with you. There is a standard fantasy world with elfs, orcs, dwarfs and humans. And It is always medieval themed. This fucking shit is stupid and boring, and it just wants to copy the Lord of the Rings. But I can see that you can notice other fantasy shows than these. So, you really should just avoid that shit. Only really trash people enjoy the Lotr copy, and you can't genocide them.
>not telling him to start with the Greeks
Well yes, anime usually disregards the source material, uses cheap labor to produce it and is constrained with tigh schedules. Thats not even including the conditions which animators face and the predatory business practise/pricing
I wouldnt even call anime a art. Its a way to milk money from people who suffer from obsession
does that meme even work there?
>all anime is made with the same purpose and effort as season shit
Honestly, I now have to agree with You people have such limited and pessimistic vision that I have to wonder how you guys even enjoy this shit anymore. Angel's Egg doesn't cease to have artistic merit just because Berserk 2017 was made like shit. You don't understand the meaning of the word art well enough to even be using it.
It's basically a way to piss people off and dwindle /lit/'s posting quality.It happens in every fucking thread, please help.
could still be used as a subtle bump
Medieval fantasy is only for the educated
>all anime is made with the same purpose and effort as season shit
I didnt exactly claim all but the majority is like that, yes.
Most anime shows are made by exploitation of people. That is a widely accepted fact. Hell, even the good anime shows are made like that which is a huge minus. How can you call something an art when the corporation is in it for the dosh, at all cost. I know money is the main point in the movies as well but they actually offer human wages and work environments. There is a huge difference between making money and making it with zero regard for human life.
Secondly, most of the anime is season shit like you said. At least Warner Bros would have had made Haruhi S3 but we cant have that in anime. You gotta get another IP for more merc after first one is eaten to the bone. Also, Yes there are exceptions but those are rather rare given the volume churned out.
>How do you enjoy this shit anymore
I dont but this is a manga board too.
Why is that pessimistic?
Anime is cheap mass produced disposable entertainment but of an unique kind thanks to japan quirks
I can acknowledge that and still enjoy it
>medieval fantasy setting
OHAIYOOO SAKAMITOSHIMITSURAGITOBISHIMO-SAN!
I hate that shit almost as much as I hate weeaboos using honorifics outside of japanese settings
Why doesn't japan have more mythological japanese fantasy? Why is Dragon Quest so popular instead of a Yokai Quest?
You don't get it. The majority of anime is shit and made cheaply, but that has no bearing on whether the whole thing itself can or can't be considered art conceptually. Terrible wages and tight scheduling are not an integral part of the anime creating process. It's how it most often is in practice, but it can and is done in other ways. Something that is inherently artistic can be used to produce commercialized garbage, but it doesn't work the other way around. It only takes one entry in a medium to prove that it is art. If it can be accomplished in one way, then it can be accomplished in others, meaning that the factors that make up the medium has what it takes to produce art. How often that actually happens varies, but none of that effects the integral parts of the artform.
>I dont but this is a manga board too
There's literally no difference between the artistic value of manga and anime on a conceptual level. All that varies is the average quality of the resultant works.
It's pessimistic because you're acting like that's all it is, even if that's how 90% of it is. You people can't separate an artform's qualities from the statistics of how those qualities get used.
Thats what it is and Im ok with it, better than having senseless arguments with made up percentages.
>Thats what it is and Im ok with it
Thanks for reminding me about how shitty your standards are, but I got that the first time.
>made up percentages.
Are you really this fucking autistic? The percentage was hyperbole. I could have just as easily used the word "majority."
>standards
What are you even talking about, lets just stop ok.
I have some shitty anime to enjoy
The fact that you enjoy shit shows is your lack of standards.
Modern life isn't all that different ironically enough.
So basically you want something like anime of Shadowrun or E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy?
tldr but i get your point
12 and Tactics' Ivalice was actually one of my favorite settings.
Whenever the inhabited castles in a medieval setting look ruined and old (like they would irl in modern day) I can't help but notice
Didn't leisure time go way up after the industrial revolution? Unless you count the wintertime when peasant farmers were mostly shut inside hoping they have enough food to not starve to death that year
I actually hate the setting that much I didn't even moderately enjoy them either.
>hygiene,religion,public morals,the political and military system,the way people were seen and treated in the medieval ages was fucking shitty and made in a way that you would work your ass off your entire life and MAYBE,just MAYBE,get a little bit of happiness,that is,if you didn't die of some unknown disease
/his/ here. I want to punch you in the ear.
He's right about the hygiene though. Medieval Europe's hygiene was legitimately bad, even for its time. The Aztecs had better kept public walkways than the Spanish.
Public bath houses were a thing throughout medieval Europe.
But what proportion of the population were regularly using them? Sewer systems and not having feces everywhere is actually a big deal, since India's major problem with its malnourished kids is not a lack of nutritious food, but weakened immune systems due to being exposed to poo everywhere they turn.
OP has shit taste and is a fag. Nothing new here, move along.
>Dragon ball and the things in it are ok but dragons are not.
Who said they weren't? Ask yourself this though. How many times did the average peasant actually go to the bathing house? I can guarantee you it wasn't everyday or even every other day. On top of this, bathing is just one component of public hygiene. Keeping your streets clean is really fucking important too. Something Europeans weren't too good at at the time. You're fighting a losing battle here user. The Spanish literally admitted themselves that their hygiene was inferior to that of Meso-Americans.
Cyberpunk is even worse.
For gods sake we're LIVING in a cyberpunk world right now. All we need are a few magical science bullshit things here and there to top it off.
buh...buh...we wuz kangz!
And the Meso-Americans didn't even invent the wheel. Why do the Spanish represent all of Europe?
Holy shit, no we're not. Fuck off.
MUH NEON thought