Lie or Ignorance?

Did Trump lie about chain immigration in is State of the Union Address? Or was he just speaking out of ignorance? Either way looks bad. Trump supporters: How can you defend this?

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The towel head is wrong.
Tucker said tonight chain migration accounts for 70 percent of illegals.

You're asking if Trump lied for the 118945th time?

>its not chain migration, its family reunification
so does that mean that immigrating is family abandonment?

All foreigners need to fuck off. The only reason we took immigrants in the past was because there was a labor shortage

The tweet wasn't about illegals, though.

Giant families in poor countries -> one person gets into the US and brings all their siblings, who then bring all of their spouses, who then bring all of their siblings, etc.

ya. Tucker said it accounts for 70% of legal migration

>News anchor vs Subject Expert
>user chooses the former
You do realize this is why Trump supporters are criticized for not accepting facts.

Also
>checked

What I don't understand is, if I move to Ireland, why the hell is it Ireland's responsibility to bring my family too?
Why the hell does the whole family have to follow you when you move?

It's relatively understandable if they say Mexico is a shithole, but apparently it's not.

So?

She is technically correct. You can only sponsor the relatives she said. You can check for yourself here: uscis.gov/system/files_force/files/form/i-130instr.pdf?download=1

The thing is though, the ones you sponsor can in turn sponsor others, so you indirectly get in laws etc.

Paying atention to a fucking "woman" wrapped inside one of those stupid hair covers. Fuck her to hell. GO BACK you piece of shit!

It means from the very beginning that 1 immigrant becomes 100 immigrants very easily.

one mexican brings over his family, including his brother. His brother brings his family and so on and so forth.

The distant relatives are coming through a "chain" of people, which is why critics call it chain migration instead of family reunification.

From the corporation's point of view there is always a labor shortage.

Correct. Hence the name "chain" migration.

You are making to much sense. That stupid ghoul has no way to ever comprehend a rational thought.

And?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_migration#Effects_of_chain_migration_in_the_United_States_in_the_20th_and_21st_centuries
You can sponsor siblings who in turn can sponsor their spouses whose spouses can sponsor their siblings.

Yeah, seems that's what's going on. You sponsor your wife, then come here. Then your wife sponsors their sibling, then their kids, and now you have brothers/sisters in law and nieces/nephews who are in the country.

I don't see how there's any avoiding this short of getting rid of the program entirely, or just not allowing someone who was sponsored by another, to then sponsor members of their family? What exactly is Trump proposing be changed about the system to stop this?

I remember during the SOTU that when he was talking about chain migration was the only time liberals got audibly buttflustered and actually booed him.

there are many many stupid lawyers

How much filth do you think Rabia Chaudry has helped bring into our country?

Also, I wonder how strict they are about this, especially for cultures such as Indians who call everyone a brother or a sister, even distant cousins.

Jose sponsors his mother, mother sponsors her sister, sister brings her child.

Jose has just effectively sponsored his cousin.

>You can sponsor siblings who in turn can sponsor their spouses whose spouses can sponsor their siblings.

Someone with a Twitter post this under her tweets.

Forgot to take your meds, Grandpa?

America should prioritize Americans, not foreigners. Immediate family only, wife/children should be allowed.

Her statement is actually self-disproving. If you can bring your sibling, and a person can bring their spouse, and parents, then of course you can bring your in-laws. And if they can all bring the same, then of course you can bring your cousins, etc.
How the fuck does she think families are structured?

You do realize these people essentially work every day to import more and more people who either
A. Take welfare benifits
B. Increase the size of the labor pool increasing competition for the same jobs, thus preventing wages from rising.

Are you actually retarded or just trolling?

She is not a very good immigration lawyer.

want to sponsor my in-laws? Sponsor my wife, then she sponsors her parents. Done.

Want to sponsor my cousins? Sponsor my parents, they sponsor their siblings, they sponsor their kids. Done

you get personal when you don't like the argument don't you

>woman provides no evidence for her assertion of Trump lying
>claims to be an expert without showing any proof
>just listen and believe

I honestly can't imagine chain migration meaning anything else.

In India they probably fuck inside their close family. A very islamic tradition as well. Salvajes de mierda.

don't be racist user

>inlaws
Step One: Sponsor Spouse
Step Two: Spouse Sponsor's parents
>cousins
Step One: Sponsor Parents
Step Two: Parents Sponsor Their Sibling
Step Three: Parent's Sibling Sponsors Their Child

>female arabic lawyer

Let's see, so she's an expert in:
-appeals to emotion
-taqiyya
-pilpul

Seems trustworthy

Why do people like you and your kind always use "import" to describe human beings. Literally no one outside of this place does it. Genuinely curious.

>Muhammed wins visa lottery (+1)
>Comes here with 3 wives who have 4 kids a piece (1+15)
>They sponsor their parents (16+8)
>Parents also have 4 kids a piece, sponsor the 3 not in yet (24+12)
>Those kids have wives (36+12)
>They have 4 kids a piece (48+48)

And this isn't even counting the parents sponsoring siblings.

OP's image: Taqiyya, the post.

Because that's what you're doing.
Would you prefer I call you an invader which would also be accurate.

>Subject expert
>A towel head woman who curses
Lol

So, you retweeted it?

Because they're being imported. Do you not understand the word?

Wew use import because labour is a product like any other thing. Immigration is the importation of labour. Not considering immigration an importation is denying the economic reality

>HOW CAN YOU TRUMPTARDS NOT BELIEVE WHAT THE MEDIA IS SAYING
>HOW CAN YOU DRUMPFLETARDUSIA BELIEVE WHAT THE MEDIA IS SAYING

what kind of lawyer talks like that?

youtu.be/pGR2hV1GYbM
Sotu,Memo and the Rothschild murder plot train crash


Terry Davis time special

Unite my brothers !!!! Like fucking rome!!!
youtu.be/cu8e3nikyQk
Countrymen!!!! Friends
Niggers are the problem

And this is why no rational person takes your kind seriously.

I think bird law is more valid than immigration law

He perhaps could have used "eventual sponsorship" instead of just sponsorship, but it's quite redundant as chain immigration already implies it happens step-by-step.

Well this was btfo'd quickly
Next

and they don't belong here you dumb fucking leaf

Do you think people should have the right to move wherever they want regardless of what the inhabitants desire? You talk about rationalist as if it isn't in my rational interest to reduce the number of laborers so there is a labor shortage and my wages go up. You're the irrational one who thinks open borders is either sustainable or good for a country

Because they're commodities to the people who pull your strings, and a faceless scourge to those who don't. You faggots are slaves to your emotions and hapless tools of both the Democrats and Republicans who use your dumb ass as a footsoldier in the struggle to gain retarded constituents primed for socialism and too backwards to recognize/care about gov corruption, and cheap labor, respectively.

>subject expert
>overtly hostile alien woman

what exactly was irrational about what user said?

>she is an immigration lawyer
>doesn't know immigration law
Typical hijabi dumbass

Muhammad's sibling's spouse's parents,siblings, siblings children, sibling's children's spouses,

and on and on.

what rights would you get and expect if you moved to mexico or china or india

Yes. I am on the right side of history and sleep well at night. You are the one who needs 5 locks and 3 guard dogs against imaginary threats.

Because she, like most shitskin women(and really women in general), is a braindead moron. If she is in fact a "lawyer" she is obviously a terrible one

Oh Canada
Our cucked and barrowed land
True niggerdom with all Tyrones command
With conquered hearts we see the rise of
filthy refugees
from far and wide oh kill me now
trudeau suck chodes for thee ...
God keep our land, impervious to free speech
oh overlords you keep us safe from hate speech
oh canada we'll give our wives to thee

Trump's plan limits immigration to spouse and MINOR children.
No 27 yr old Achmed (child) his wife, his children.

Lawyers are generally smart, but other than that they are absolute nigger tier. They argue points by being confrontational, using logical fallacies, appealing to emotion, and outright lying.

I'm sure they're required to learn logic in school, but almost every lawyer I've been around always argues like a butthurt leftist and throws all decorum out the window to prove they're "right"

>but this is how i interpret the law
>but this is how i interpret the koran

bitch needs acid asap

He said the people who come in legally under sponsorship visas are "invaders".

They can sponsor someone who sponsors someone who sponsors someone who sponsors someone who sponsors someone who sponsors someone and at the end, it's distant fucking relatives. FFS

>implying she isn't just lying because it is in her ethno-religious interest

She's telling the truth and lying at the same time.

If a guy brings his wife, the wife can bring her parents. That means he's bringing his in-laws.

If a guy brings his siblings, they can bring their children. That makes nephews/nieces.

One person brings another, brings another, brings another, and soon you do have cousins, inlaws, grand parents, and all that.

While you can't DIRECTLY bring them, you can bring other people who can bring them so you might as well be able to.

tl;dr she's a lying muzzie cunt playing word games to insult the president

>Parents
>Siblings

There is zero reason these people should automatically be given citizenship. Anything beyond Wife and Kids is Bullshit.

Think if I got a German Citizenship. Sudden I can bring over my Parents and Siblings, then they are immediately going to bring over their spouses and kids. Then their spouses are going to bring their Parents and Sibling.
Repeat this fucking endlessly.

That's a nice emotional appeal there, nice to know you want policies based on your feelings rather than whether they benefit the nation. Of course, the great irony here is that I'm a immigrant myself. Cutting down on chain migration would mean my grand parents would not be able to come here, as well as many other relatives. Yet, I still support Trump and him cutting immigration. This is because I have more loyalty the nation and not narcissistic enough to demand my entire extended family have the right to American welfare.

Furthermore, I hate the thought of being a tool for corrupt politicians who want votes. They imported my father for cheap labor, yet want to guilt me into importing more cheap labor because of it. Fuck that.

Trump must be a 4D genius for figuring all this out now

taqyya

From my point of view you can go fuck yourself.

>lives in relatively homogeneous white country
>all security needs provided by friendly superpower to the south
>mocks us for taking precautions against niggers
maplemonkey range ban when

and you should be fucking hung you goddamn traitorous nigger

Even if the raghead was right she “forgets” to mention that brown people lie and since the state wants these people here they’re not going to call them on it. For the state immigration is a matter of by hook or by crook.

No one in my circle of friends is fooled by filth like you.
Your ideology never outlives you. NEVER EVER.

Leftism is dying my dude

>loyalty to the nation
You are loyal to the state user.

This Muslim cunt, like most Muslims, is a deceitful whore. The law allows for any fucking sub-human who wins a visa in our diversity lottery to sponsor their family. All these new assholes that come in because of this one sub-human can then sponsor their family members.

This is chain migration and it allows these fucking worthless people to eventually bring in their whole goddamn clan.

Hahahahahahahahaha

>denying evidenced based on prejudice
>bearer of truth and knowledge doesn't fit preconceived notions
Your willful ignorance doesn't flatter you.

>individual on Twitter who's credentials are easily doxed vs mass media propaganda
wew

THIS.

Also, immigration lawyers are the lowest class of lawyers. They are so dumb that I actually feel sorry for the wetback clients.

t.Immigration Court spectator

>imaginary threats

CHAIN migration, m8.

>evidence
>truth
>knowledge
Parasites get expelled, not indulged. She has to go back, and so do you.

>Just because im an immigrant doesn't mean i sponsor chain migration!

>Oh btw my literal occupation is helping third-world muslims like me immigrate here

actually, under current law anyone can illegally enter the US and claim illegal migrant entry, be fingerprinted and given a court date to appear, and literally never show up and go to california or any other sanctuary state, get a drivers license, vote, and live off welfare

It's time to go home, Juan.

What evidence?
Just 2 bitches twatting like I give a fuck

huh sort of like a chain

1) daca amnesty illegal sponsors mother and father and brother and sister
2) daca illegals mother sponsors her sister, brother, daca illegals father sponsors his brother, daca illegals brother sponsors his wife and sister sponsors her husband
3) daca illegals mothers sister sponsors her husband, her son. daca illegals fathers brother sponsors his wife and daugher. daca illegals brothers wife sponsors her mother and father. daca illegals sisters husband sponsors his mother and father, and son from a previous marriage
4) daca illegals mothers sisters husband sponsors his brother. daca illegals mothers sisters son sponsors his wife and daughter. daca illegals brothers wifes mother sponsors her 2 brothers. daca illegals sisters husbands mother sponsors her brother and son from a previous marriage. daca illegals sisters husbands father sponsors his three sisters. daca illegals sisters husbands fathers son sponsors his 2 brothers, (from same mother but not the same father obviously)

do you seriously not understand the concept of chain migration and how it exponentially grows past the initial amount of "amnestied" illegals?

just because someone is a "subject matter expert wearing a durkha" doesnt mean they arent retarded or blinded by leftist agenda

You know, this thread reminds me of way back in my college days. I was studying Computer Science. We had an adjunct professor and subject expert sent from Sun Microsystems who happened to be an African American female. Despite her impressive credentials, most of my peers chose to heckle and lampoon her, to the point where another student went to the Dean and filed a complaint against other students in the class. I was impressed by how poised and professional she remained throughout the blatant disrespect she was being shown, and she never once complained. This bothered me so badly that one afternoon, after class, I mustered the courage to ask her how was it she was able to endure such flagrant bigotry. As she packed her attache, she looked-up at me with the warmest smile and said, "Oh, I don't mind, [user]...I'll recognize them later when they're serving me at Denny's".

And now, many years later, I'm the only one of my classmates with a gainful career in IT. Several of my peers have low-level management jobs at restaurants, gas stations, department stores, etc. These same assholes are the ones who voted for Trump and have the nerve to complain that immigrants are taking all the good IT jobs in America. It's always HURR DURR AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, when they themselves had the privilege of learning from one of the best in the industry, who's clout was more than enough to get me my first break at a fortune 50 tech company.

Look, guys...my point isn't about sitting around a campfire hoping to hold hands and pass a Coke around to every immigrant and minority as a virtue signal. I'm talking about how people insist on defending their prejudices so much that they aren't willing to learn and grow more as an individual. What are you so afraid of? I guess that's fine if you wish to spend the rest of your life in a cone of silence. Good luck with that.

>"Thing that never happened": The Post

Being a ShareBlue shill doesn't count as a "gainful career in IT".

fuck you faggot

>Citizen brings in spouse
>Spouse now citizen
>Citizen spouse now brings in their sibling
>Citizen spouse's sibling is now a citizen
>Citizen sibling now brings in their spouse
>etc

All this because Ahckmed was allowed to bring in someone.