Are employment drug screening an invasion of privacy...

are employment drug screening an invasion of privacy? 4/5 checmicals they test for in the non-dot pass through your system in less than 72 hours.

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Not if you sign a piece of paper wavering some of your rights.

You can refuse to take the test.
I can refuse to hire you.

>4/5 checmicals they test for in the non-dot pass through your system in less than 72 hours.
If that's true, then it weeds out only the most degenerate and should be allowed.

but is it an invasion of privacy?

So if someone has any of the shorter half life chemicals it means they were high just before the test, rather irresponsible. But I agree that it is an invasion of privacy and never should have become part of the hiring process

It became part of the hiring process because employers get a substantial break on their insurance.

Weed is legal.
Just sue the company and make a quick million.
For spiritual and religious persecution.
No jury will believe a corporation.
Risk managment will settle with cash.

72 hours.
>Kek might as well make it 12

>are employment drug screening an invasion of privacy?
Yes, it's none of my employer's business what I smoke, drink, snort, etc while off the clock.
It's none of there business who I put my dick in, or what church I go to.

is a job a right?

>Weed is legal.
So is tobacco, but some employers will fire you if you smoke it at home on the weekend.

>is a job a right?
No, but for most, it's a necessity.
If the only way to get a decent job is to suck a dick, then we would have a system that forces most people to suck cock,

liar, you obese fatmericunts always make shit up. pathetic. go be a fat retard somewhere else

Unironically, this is the system for quite some time now although there's a gender dick sucking gap since promotions due to dick sucking mostly affect women

No, it's true. Some employers have begun barring hiring tobacco users and requiring current employees to quit. There are condos where you pay for the condo, pay for the maintenance, but you are not allowed to smoke in the condo you own. This is very common in apartment communities as well.

It's true. Companies could test and fire you for caffeine if they wanted to. The only reason they test for weed is to save money on insurance.

Of course it's an invasion of privacy, how would Sup Forums feel about having to disclose their internet history when they apply to jobs? It has nothing to do with employability.

>liar
>always make shit up

whitecloudelectroniccigarettes.com/blog/nicotine-testing-employment/
>In many US states, employers are legally allowed to implement no-hire policies for nicotine users by using nicotine testing for employment.
>some companies refuse to hire nicotine users to avoid paying higher health insurance premiums

Not at all, if you want to sell your body to another person, then everything is fair. Sell-out.

he's not lying, I had to get tested for nicotine to work at the hospital.

>tfw highly skilled but can't into job because dude weed
Urine tests should be done away with and replaced with swab tests. Pot shows up in your piss for a month yet coke/meth doesn't show up after less than a week. It's not fair, dammit.

So just stop smoking weed all the time cheech

Inb4 boot lickers demand you stop caring about your privacy

No, they are not. Unless rules about drug testing is specifically under contract with a company, it's fair game. Vote to unionize if you don't want horseshit.

>all the time
>one time and you test hot for 6 weeks
why are you people so faggy?

>not fair

what's not fair is expecting anyone to pay a slob like you

>one time and you test hot for 6 weeks

bullshit, you'd only test hot for that long if you were a habitual everyday pot smoker

Proof seems to be lacking in your claim.

It's 29 days if youre a daily smoker. I tested this personally by going to a legit drug testing lab every day after smoking 30 days straight.

It got awkward after like the 10th consecutive failed drug test. They broke protocol and asked me if i was trying to break some kind of record.

If the only way they can tell that you're on drugs is by chemically testing your bodily fluids, then why is it a big deal to employers and insurance companies?

no sauce? fuck off fat cunt

again no sauce

fucking retard

at least you tried, still no sauce of a company refusing to hire cunts because of cig smoking. just some dumb law on a fucking VAPE site no less

let me post some dumb link from some leftist bullshit site like a vape site and claim its real, fucking obese fat cunt

anedoctal evidence is the same level of niggers saying "dindoo notin"

obese nigger cunt

Stop being a poorfag and start your own business. Then you can sit in your office and shitpost on /pol, smoke weed, and fap to porn all day while other people you drug test make you money.

nobody sucks my cock because welfare is too high

Aren't some of these tests so sensitive that eating a poppy seed bagel is enough to trigger them?

>some of
most of the saliva tests will be triggered by poppy seeds for around 8~12 hours. and don't even think about trying to fuck with it by using a strong acid (so many fuckheads in australia think they can smoke weed if they drink lemon juice) ACID REACTS WITH THE TESTS TO GIVE A FALSE POSITIVE FOR METH YOU FUCKING RETARDSSSSSSSS

So if I eat a poppy seed/citrus salad dressing at lunch, I'll look like I'm taking opiates AND amphetamines at the same time? Jesus fucking Christ.

if you can't remain clean for 3 days there's a 100% guarantee you're going to be high on the job. insurance probably requires these drug tests

They ask you if you've eaten anything with poppy seeds and a bunch of other shit when you go take the test so they know to look out for false positives. If you get a "false positive" then you're usually scheduled to go back for a retest in a few days or a week.

Has anyone here used quick fix to cheat on a test?

Most people can't remember what they ate for breakfast by the time lunch rolls around.

well, only if you take the test a second after you swallow it, or around 2~6 hours after that. amphetamine false positive is really an odd one. look up the specific lists for the tests yourself. I am far too lazy/drunk/old

Drink as much clean piss as you can before taking the test. Get it from a friend.

If you can't remember what you had to eat 4 hours ago then I don't want you working for me anyway.

Find a job that doesn't drug test then. I handle CIII substances so of course my employer is going to make sure I'm not a junkie.

Yes. It works. All you have to do is get the temperature right and not be a sperg when you go in to test. Used it twice now with no jssue.

For most non court ordered screenings they just use the cheap test strip and only do more testing if that fails. Not sure about probabtion and stuffn but for a pre employment screening it works fine. I reccomend buying a digital tjermometer because the temperature strip kinda sucks. But if u can het the temperature within range you are good to go.

t. Degenerate stoner

If I were an employer I would refuse to hire beerheads.
>Dude I'm so drunk rn lol let's go driving!

What specific "fuel" people shove down their gullet as they thrown on clothes and blowdry their hair typically ranks pretty low on priorities. I'm more likely to be thinking of how to resolve a particular engineering/manufacturing issue than pontificating the exact composition of the 300-500 calories I eat in the morning as I drink my tea or coffee.

Good to hear, I'll be trying for the first time soon.

You probably wouldn't like working with a jackboot as your boss anyway.

>Use of drugs indicates lack of self control
>lower self esteem
>les productivity
>less chance of success
Do you think there are no studies on this? Do you think employers do this without reason?
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.0022-3506.2004.00263.x/full

I really wouldn't. I tend to value being correct more than being friendly and jackboots have easily wounded egos.

There is a free market solution to drug tests
Fake urine was created in order to calibrate this kind of equipment. Just give them the fake piss.

If these negative qualities were so apparent, then wouldn't they be able to weed them out in the interview?

Why do they need to test my urine or blood to find them out?

The only reason they do it is because the insurance companies discount their premiums.

>If that's true
Fuck off underage faggot it's not Chad's fault you can't find any weed

I successfully used one of those "detox" drinks from a headshop to cheat a piss test once. Then I read he ingredients, figured out how it works and can now get the same results with a 16oz monster energy drink. You just dilute your piss by chugging water and then the b-vitamins in the energy drink put color back in so it looks yellow again instead of clear.

This works too. If you want to be cheap, you can use someone else's piss if you have a friend that doesn't drink or do drugs. Just make sure you are both the same gender.

>not using synthetic urine to protect your privacy regardless of you use drugs or not

This. My employer screens when you are first hired and after that it’s dont show up high and you’re good.

That's the way it should be. People should be able to quit for at least long enough to get the job in the first place if they want it.

Right because people cannot put on a fake face and pretend to be someone they arent for half an hour?
Gtfo you dumb cunt

>Nicotine screening

Pretty much this. The competitive nature of capitalism means that you need to take every advantage you can get. If you don't take the advantage your competitor is getting, you will be out competed. That's it. Next time you see an h1b poo or a drug test, remember that the competition is saving money with these too.

The American dream.

Workmens comp insurance literally reduces their prices if companies drug test. Most employers dgaf on your time. Drug screening is a nice test to see if you can abstain from smoking pot for a month...

who cares, just slam water

If you're going to make actual non shill posts, please don't use a memeflag. You'll set off some people's shill alarms.

>are employment drug screening an invasion of privacy?
Considering there is no such thing as a "Right to Privacy", that it's something invented by kikes in the 1950s to encourage degenerate behavior while not applying it to anything else, I'd say the answer to this question is irrelevant.

how do u heat it properly? the friction bag of beads or whatever did not work for me and it was too far away to microwave
t. less successful degenerate stoner

Employer here, we reserve the right to test when something is obviously wrong. Our employees work on construction sites. If they are inebriated in any way and injure themselves/someone else then my company is completely fucked. Also an easy way to fire someone, although we are in a "at will" state. Privacy is fine and good until it affects my company negatively. Be a degenerate fuck up on your own time.

fwiw: Hair-tests detect substances of up to 6 months use. The only thing they cannot detect is LSD.

Obviously metabolism varies from person to person, but this is the most logical answer so far. Takes me on average 24 days after smoking daily for months to test clean. 5' 10 185lbs. Drink water and exercise as well as laying off high fat and junk food and it can definitely help