Ok Sup Forums let's settle this. Is atheism a redpill or a bluepill?

Ok Sup Forums let's settle this. Is atheism a redpill or a bluepill?

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Bluepill.

There have genuinely been moments and phenomena in my life where I have found it next to impossible to deny the existence of a god for. If you can't say the same, you're not human.

It's a red pill disguised as a blue pill

ugh atheistsl. I can't stand those fedora tipping neckbeards.

It's a placebo. You take it and no matter what, you think it's the right choice.

Im ok with this answer

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Well, i'd say it opens the mind to criticism and not taking things as they are, it makes you question your surroundings and where you stand in the world, so, in a sense, it is a Redpill.

blackpill.

Take a look at 9gag and make your own opinion.

It's a blue pill disguised as a red pill

Fuck, i meant to post this image...

Oh, well... My point stands. Even if there is a god, for me, i'd say i'm a good person and i always help whoever i can, so if there is a god and an afterlife, i'm sure to be just fine. And if there isn't a god, well, we'll see what happens when we die, won't we?

neither.

though if you dont believe in god because of scientific understand of how stupid these religious myths are its a sign of a redpill it can very easily be obscured by pointlessly shoveling in new ideological garbage in its place. Most athiests are completely unself aware when it comes to these things

take dawkins root of all evil
he posits that religion is the root of all evil, but ignores the massive ammount of evidence that when religion dies it is immediately reborn in the populace through unguided superstition.

Religion is like human shit, rather than evil, how that shit is managed is what matters, weather christian or athiest or muslim. when you don't manage that shit, it poisons you with cholera.

It's a redpill until you transition to Roman Catholic. That s the redest of the pill

Technically it’s a black pill. That said, it’s useless and leads to nihilism and hedonism. You don’t have to go full christcuck, but don’t be a fedora fag either; understand the importance and REASON behind a righteous and pious life. Hint: it ain’t cuz it’s stupid.

>"A magical being is responsible for this!"
Religion is literally one of the biggest bluepills ever.

Religion is important to maintain homogeneity and a strong community. Whether there is or is not a God is up for debate.
I'd say atheism is a bluepill, but that doesn't mean you need to be a bible-thumper to be redpilled.

A parrot thinking he's redpilled. How adorable.

THIS.

You've hit the jackpot, my dude.

I would say most atheist dislike the way low IQ people treat religion but thats only half the battle.
Its sort of like giving up

After learning what the Jews did in Russia in 1917, it is safe to say that there is no God.

But because atheism is a component to communism, I would have to say it is blue pill.

This. Definitely a blackpill.

Why do you believe in magic though? Do you believe in fairies and dragons too?

Major blue pill.
Most atheists don't actually understand Christianity and they act like libtard zombies when you try to explain it to them.
I should know, I was an atheist for 18 years before I decided to actually study Christianity a bit in my quest for perfect moral systems (I thought Christianity was just a moral system cuz I was stupid)
I was like "Wow everything God says makes total sense. Were they ever wrong about anything?" Turns out they weren't. Not only that but there's all kinds of creepy shit in the Bible being predicted a thousand years in advance. It makes no sense without God being real, so I entertained the notion.
Then something incredible happened. Not only did I gain perfect morality, I gained wisdom. I quickly accepted Christ as my savior and the rest is history.
Any lover of truth is a lover of Christ, they just don't know it yet.

All I know is that I don't particularly believe in god, yet I find atheists fucking insufferable most of the time.

the stuff you buy in a store are just blue pills though

epic ftw

Atheism makes people delusional. At least religious people can hide behind faith when they don't have answers for their position. Atheists believe they've somehow proven that god doesn't exist, and then don't provide any evidence to back up their claim. It's totally delusional.

You are so edgy aren't you? The more you pretend you know everything the dumber you appear. The wisest people realize they know nothing. And in the case of religion you and me know nothing for sure. As many of the brightest minds that seeked the truth with no avail.

>Blackpill. Absolutely kills these autists' "I actually matter and someone important cares about me" delusions so they don't like it.

>it waz magic!
lmao
nice meme I also miss 2013
don't go there mr. sheep

Burden of proof for positive claims of god, etc, etc

Facts

I'm not edgy, I'm just pointing out why I think religions are ultimately bluepills. Why do you get cranky when I don't believe in what you do?

And continued... Do you really think the secrets of the creator of the entire universe is written on some random ass book written by a bunch of humans? Step out of fairy land for a moment, mate.

atheism is the ultimate redpill.

Do you know how close christianity is to islam and judaism?

Blue pill. How can any human with certainty deny the existence of a God when we can't even decide whether intelligent life exists elsewhere in the cosmos.

We explore the possibility of intelligent life elsewhere and have multitudes of theories surrounding the possibility (Fermi paradox) of it existing and treat it as a subject that can be discussed without the over emotional arguments like "well if a God exists why doesn't he X to stop my suffering". Why is being open to a possibility of a God or even believing in God frowned upon? It makes no sense.

Once you understand the necessity and esoteric meaning behind religion, it becomes one of the biggest redpills.

its blue pilled
>dismisses anything as insignificant due to our length of life

i haven't but want to believe.

I would also agree with some anons in that athiesim would lead you on the path of being smart but not wise. And you need both. So, maybe learn from both sides and go on your own path for a good life

heres my evidence for y god isnt real:

im gay

Durrr, they're all Abrahamic religions. Christianity is Judaism 2.0 without the retarded rabbi laws.

Islam stole from both.

>in my quest for perfect moral systems
This is what separates you, and people like you, from atheists: You need someone to write a game plan for you to function normally. People who argue that not believing in God leads to caring about nothing or behaving like a savage are projecting.

...

Believing in God and beliving the Bible by letter is a different thing. My point is that you bash religion based on how the stupidest people perceive it. And you parrot the "sky-daddy" millenial 9gag-tier phrase.

And I'm not angry or triggered. It's Sup Forums here, we don't need politeness or political corectness.

I don't see the need for a god but I see the need for religion and the benefit it provides, if that makes any sense

Actually my initial plan was to take what works from Christianity then move on to other religions and philosophies, compiling all the points I felt were objectively correct and creating a perfect system of morality for myself.
Turns out it exists, and has for a long ass time. it's called the Bible.
The reason the Bible says "the wages of sin are death" is because "sin" is counter productive to life. Your life or my life or society as a whole's life.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=cHEqvGYRi7M

I never said the christian god was a sky-daddy, stop projecting your insecurities about your religion into me.
The bible is written in such a metaphorical and abstract way that pretty much everything in it could mean a trillion different things, when people say the bible predicted so and so their argument is invalid.

>believing in god
>not believing in the bible "by the letter"

then what does it even matter? can you tell me ANY of the properties of your god? whats the difference between him and my god?

Apathetic atheism is a redpill. Any other flavor of atheism is Good Goyim Bluepill™

this
>religion is good cause it keeps dumb and violent people in line!
whatever gets you there I guess
Hahahahaha

Thanks for making my point.

>when people say
>their argument is invalid

> stop projecting your insecurities

explain this passage from the gospels in relation to your world view.

Being a Christian means you are hopelessly blue pilled. You worship a Jew. That should be the end of the conversation.

How is what I said false though?

Yes, that's how it works. The masses of any population are retards. Do you really think Obama was a "devout christian"? Religion keeps society functioning and flowing. It's just another way of having a central authority figure to admire/aspire/look up to. Even most atheists agree with this.

didn't the Jews deny him?

After what the Jews did in Russia, they proved their religion to be false.

I can't perceive God's properties as they are meant to be divine.

I don't care to perceive how God is, I'm an Orthodox. I only care to expand my spirituality and come closer to fulfilling my potential. Or at least that's my philosophy.

Jesus is an example of going against the wave for your belief and spreading love to the people. It's only Catholics who think that God is some sort of punisher-king.

Bad grammar. "Got" should be "gotten," just as "done" is not "did" in this quote.

Because I never said it. Don't project your own insecurities on a person you've never exchanged ideas before.

You really don't get it. It's ok, most so-called "christians" don't either. You don't avoid sin because it'll put you in hell or it'll make God punish you. You avoid sin because it's bad for you and the people around you.
If I steal from you, you'll probably want to kill me or at the very least beat the shit out of me. Even if you don't, I'll harm your need for safety and threaten your life for my own safety.
Morality is objective. It's behavior that promulgates the species. Which is why the Bible shuns things that lead to death, both of the human race as a whole and for the in group culture that is "Christianity".

The man who is rich in money is poor in spirit. He cannot enter heaven until he lives a life for God and man.

Whatever mate. You were the one who said I made retarded 9gag tier assumptions about your religion.

That's a reference to a rich man claiming to be sinlesss. So Jesus tells him "Ok, sell all your stuff and become my follower" But the guy's greed gets to him and he backs off.
It's like in Fight Club, the things you own can end up owning you. The guy had a chance to follow Christ in the flesh but was more concerned with his money.

Islam stole from both then filled the rest of their book with excuses for conquering the world and being as selfish as they want

I didn't mean to offend you. My point is that acting as you know everything may feel smart but is perceived as naive by others. Wise people know their true insignificance in the universe and act humble.

It's sorta both. It opens your mind so long as you're open to other ideas as well and not be your high-school god-is-dead-faggot. Ultimately, I think that Atheism is a bluepill of sorts. I believe certain religions are also bluepills. However, I believe that one must retain a certain amount of spirituality (which is not to be confused with religion).

The existence of a god(s) is a trivial matter. I sometimes wonder how much intellectual capital has been wasted on this. How many more Josh Feuersteins and TJ Kirks does this world need?

People who need God (or some other higher power) to do good should be allowed to believe in God. People who do not need God to do good should, likewise, be allowed not to believe in God.

it's neither. atheism isn't taking either a pill, because there's no risk to it. it's like staying in the matrix forever without questioning anything.

bluepill is literally the easiest most faggiest way out of life user.

I know, bro. I KNOW.
Just like the brainlets that worship Jesus and Trump even though it looks like Donnie is going to hell Which is why I said "Whatever gets you there".

-_-
Do you understand that codes of honor have existed for a long time, often seperate from your religion?
> You avoid sin because
you have a special term for it, congrats,
here read it again it looks like you don't understand still

Offended? No, I'm just pointing out that you're the one assuming shit.
I don't actually care that people are Christians and would prefer if every kike and sandnigger converted to Christianity. And of course I know my insignificance, that's why I don't believe in any religion. How the hell would a bunch of apes (humans) uncover the secrets of the universe by writing a book? That's right, they wouldn't.

eh, atheism is a bit too sure of itself; there may actually be a god, they can't know

but religion is just a muh feels safety blanket for adults, wrapped up in a "how to into civilization in the desert thousands of years ago for dummies" guidebook, that people don't even fucking follow yet still waste their time and money on churches

>inb4 "its necessary for civilization!!!!111"

no, whites are necessary for civilization; kill the jews and remove the rest

The only gods that reward good behavior are man made. God exists, but it's not because God is a motivation for being "good".

"If you don't accept magical bullshit, which I personally will admit I don't understand, have no coherent understanding of, and accept it without question, choosing a particular cultures version of and storys of,
I don't consider you human."

Which bit did I get wrong?

You can attribute something to a god when you can investigate and demonstrate the connection.

You sir suck at thinking.

Atheism is the ultimate black pill. All morality is reduced to subjective feelings. It's for SJWs and bisexuals.

being atheist isn't necessarily wrong, letting it rule your life is.

An atheist society is a weak society. If there is no religion, there is no reason to ever interact with other members of society in a positive and beneficial manner, you become increasingly self-serving populace that has secluded themselves so thoroughly they no longer care about the needs of their nation and their people.

Religion is not about believing in a God, or an afterlife. Those are window-dressings, trappings your society clothes itself in because it wants to emulate aspects of that religion

>Christians focus on working together and building because they needed to do that to survive
>Muslims focus on protecting the immediate family and essential resources because that's what they needed to do to survive
>Buddhists/Hindis focus on social interaction and compassion because you have to get along with your neighbor when you own 30% of the world population
>Jews focus on fucking over gentiles because they know they're going to be kicked out the country in less than a century, so they need to accrue as much wealth as possible in the interim

You're saying you don't need God to be a good person. I'm telling you you're wrong.
Maybe you think something like sex outside of marriag is normal and ok as long as there's a commitment. Whoops now you're a dad and you don't want to stay with the girl and now that kid's a retarded criminal who kills someone.
Or maybe you get an std that cripples your dick.
etc etc.
Having a book of answers from God is pretty handy and there's not one answer in that book that is wrong. It's not a matter of faith, it's a matter of fact.
Everything we do that the Bible says not to do causes problems in the world.

Wow, if god existed he certainly wouldn't want people posting on Sup Forums especially this board on Sup Forums.

All the so called religious folks in here actually need to read the bible and practice what they preach.

Holy shit this place is absolutely moronic i don't think any of the people on this board actually know what they are talking about they just parrot shit they heard somewhere.

I'm mad right now thinking that some distant ancestor of mine could have been that guy. Imagine being that dude who refused to follow the physical incarnation of the Lord.

>You're saying you don't need God to be a good person. I'm telling you you're wrong
Alright, so you're a brainlet. Cool.

Because hes a fucking child, and because you're a WICKED EVIL TOOL OF SATAN for denying his magic IS TOO real, fuck you!

...like the bluepill?

It is a necessary bluepill to get redpilled.

Being a religious because of your parents gave you no other option is bluepilled. Reading Richard Dawkins and becoming an Atheist is also bluepilled.

The redpill comes when you look at religion and realise it is necessary for your civilisation to flourish and survive. You can only get to this point by being an atheist.

You end up in the weird place I am in, where I don't believe in God, but your realise that LARPing as a Christian is the best way to live for you, your family and society.

How can you be sure we came from apes? Because a supposed ape "proved" it?

Maybe we did, maybe we didn't. It's something that has potential for "groundbreaking" change if we discover something.

Everyone's belief should be personal and not trying to force it to others by mocking.

You know like almost all 1st world nations are secular nations right?

Like, theocracies are really fucking rare bro, now a days. You should prolly move to saudi arabia or something.

I'm not trying to force anyone's belief. The topic of the thread is literally
>"Ok Sup Forums let's settle this. Is atheism a redpill or a bluepill?"
So here I am, debating the topic of this thread. Mind boggling, right?

It says in black and white, you cannot enter the presence as a rich man. It says this so fervently that it repeats itself.

And I'm debating you. Not being crancky or anything. Isn't that the point of all this?

Are you like a Fedora theologian? Please tell us all we God does not want us posting here? Look forward to you illuminating exegesis.

I wonder how many "christians" end up realizing this. Could it be that every one is just playing along thinking their neighbor is truly a god fearing man? Definitely not, but I would like to know how many people in the past and present follow Christ without belief in god.

>Atheism is overwhelming popular on Reddit, 9fag and liberal millennials
GEE I wonder.

This is the only correct answer.

I just explained this to you. I shouldn't be surprised the Bible says non-believers are essentially blind-folded until they come to God themselves.
You can try to be a good person and still be wicked. Cartel drug dealers probably justify what they do to themselves. You as a human being through ignorance will cause harm to yourself and to others if you don't heed God's word and in doing so, you earn death for yourself through simple cause and effect. It's not even that God hates you most of the time, it's just you play stupid games and win stupid prizes.
Probably haunted him all his life but I think the message flew over his head. To modernize and paraphrase their conversation:
"Hey perfect master Jesus, how can I gain eternal life?"
"Nobody's perfect, you have to be perfect to have eternal life."
"I'm perfect!"
"Oh? Sell your shit."
"N-no."
and verily Jesus did lul with his homies.

Socialism and communism, which are caused by atheism, is the cause for the decline of the west.
youtube.com/watch?v=vqQdc0mX1_c

Reread it.
With God it's possible. Meaning you have to have God's grace. Something rich people are less likely to ask for because they're used to earning things.

>You can be a good person and still be wicked